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Irvine West (SNP defence) on North Ayrshire
First Preference Votes: Scottish National Party 1,164 (37% unchanged), Labour 1,029 (33% -7%), Conservative 639 (21% +9%), Socialist Labour Party 131 (4% +3%), Green Party 94 (3%, no candidate in 2012), Liberal Democrat 48 (2% -3%)
SNP lead of 135 (4%) on a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count
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First like Leave.0
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Second like Jessica Ennis-Hill
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"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...0 -
FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
Nice to see a Sturgeon lose. Worth noting though that there was an overall Lab to SNP swing in both seats compared to aggregate previous votes. The Lab gain is thus a peculiarity and must reflect the different impact of STV when there is only one member in a by-election compared to when elections are held for two members simultaneously.0
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Irvine West – A not so safe seat after all for Nicola’s dad…0
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No, one that chooses a candidate that is most acceptable to the voters as a whole.Philip_Thompson said:"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...0 -
Stoke South, and Newcastle-under-Lyme now look as if they're marginal seats, and Stoke North may well be soon. All three were retained by Labour even in 1983.Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
''Including Tristam Hunt.''
Wow. Stoke goes tory.0 -
The voting system is fine, it's the swing notification that's the problem.Philip_Thompson said:"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...
It's also evident in another of last night's results (under FPTP).
It wasn't really "on a swing of 2.5% from Lib Dem to Con", more of a big swing against UKIP.
Britain Elects @britainelects 13h13 hours ago
Ombersley (Worcestershire) result:
CON: 63.2% (+15.3)
LDEM: 14.8% (+9.7)
UKIP: 14.0% (-19.2)
IND: 7.9% (+7.9)
Lab and Grn didn't stand.0 -
They should use AV, much fairer and simpler.Philip_Thompson said:"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...0 -
She won her heat, with the fastest time so far! Only woman under 13 seconds with her 12.84.peter_from_putney said:Second like Jessica Ennis-Hill
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He can go back to making BBC docus.Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
Has Owen Smith has got things pear shaped again. Complaining about ASOS comparing to Sports Direct zero hours contracts etc. They say never met him, never been here, we do not have zero hour contracts, our workers take tiolet breaks when they want and we pay above the minimum wage! All verystrange..
Think he needs to calm down0 -
Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?0 -
SNP well ahead for most rounds, but the Socialist Labour and Tory voters had a heavy preference to Labour over the SNP.Bromptonaut said:
No, one that chooses a candidate that is most acceptable to the voters as a whole.Philip_Thompson said:"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...
http://www.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/Documents/CorporateServices/ChiefExecutive/Communications/Election-ResultsWard-1---Irvine-WestBreakdown.pdf0 -
Could the world survive that?Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
No, the devaluation of the £ has artificially inflated the vote share – or something like that..!Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?0 -
Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...0 -
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.0 -
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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With a turnout circa 20% for both Scottish seats I don't think "surge" is quite the right word.logical_song said:
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.
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S. America (and the Philippines) are interestingly liberal, given how pervasive the Catholic Church is there.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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Unless UKIP come to their collective senses, they as a political party are doomed. Which really saddens me, as they were the future; once.
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If May's blue collar Toryism appeals it will be precisely to those sort of seats that her pitch will be heard.Sean_F said:
Stoke South, and Newcastle-under-Lyme now look as if they're marginal seats, and Stoke North may well be soon. All three were retained by Labour even in 1983.Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
Sounds like Smith is dutifully paying back the union for supporting him without doing his own research first. Oops!theakes said:Has Owen Smith has got things pear shaped again. Complaining about ASOS comparing to Sports Direct zero hours contracts etc. They say never met him, never been here, we do not have zero hour contracts, our workers take tiolet breaks when they want and we pay above the minimum wage! All verystrange..
Think he needs to calm down0 -
Labour did even worse in the council elections last year, losing 15 seats.taffys said:''Including Tristam Hunt.''
Wow. Stoke goes tory.
What on earth does Corbyn's Labour have to offer the WWC of Stoke?0 -
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...0 -
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Presuming that Qatar, along with other Muslim countries, is similarly homophobic that make the next two football world cups in violently homophobic countries. Good work there FIFA, rewarding such places when you are supposedly trying to stamp out prejudice in the game. It's no wonder that there are so few 'out' footballers.Anorak said:
S. America (and the Philippines) are interestingly liberal, given how pervasive the Catholic Church is there.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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Smith and Corbyntheakes said:Has Owen Smith has got things pear shaped again. Complaining about ASOS comparing to Sports Direct zero hours contracts etc. They say never met him, never been here, we do not have zero hour contracts, our workers take tiolet breaks when they want and we pay above the minimum wage! All verystrange..
Think he needs to calm down
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Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
I've still got an incredibly low opinion of those who didn't bother to attend when offered a superb ring-side seat. I know during my BT days how often some great events were passed about internally the afternoon before because someone couldn't be arsed.0 -
Less than 20 minutes to the judgement in the latest Labour v Labour court case...
will it go all the way to the Supreme Court? ECJ?0 -
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
"Accept" is an interesting word.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
Philippines is an interesting one - where the Catholic influence appears to conflict directly with the 'ladyboy' culture but seems, bizarrely, to rub along just fine. I had any number of chaps in my department who made Julian Clary look like Rambo who were nonetheless very religious. It's abortion that the church really gets hot about over there not sexuality.Anorak said:
S. America (and the Philippines) are interestingly liberal, given how pervasive the Catholic Church is there.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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But then Islamism happened, or in Africa, Anglicanism.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
I seem to recall military personal were drafted into fill the gap left by missing G4S guards. Free tickets to empty seats were offered to those soldiers not on duty.PlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...0 -
I wouldn't be too keen on being straight in Nigeria either.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
Makes sense. Same-sex male couples are not responsible for very many abortionsPatrick said:
Philippines is an interesting one - where the Catholic influence appears to conflict directly with the 'ladyboy' culture but seems, bizarrely, to rub along just fine. I had any number of chaps in my department who made Julian Clary look like Rambo who were nonetheless very religious. It's abortion that the church really gets hot about over there not sexuality.Anorak said:
S. America (and the Philippines) are interestingly liberal, given how pervasive the Catholic Church is there.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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It's not a nice place to live.SandyRentool said:
I wouldn't be too keen on being straight in Nigeria either.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
Iran is a strange place. It actually has the world's highest GCS rates (that's sex change in non-pc speak). There is considerable pressure on gay people to transition to the 'correct' gender. Executions are generally confined to cases of gay rape.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
12 + 9logical_song said:
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.
5 + 8
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An Iranian friend of mine claims that Iran is very progressive with their GCS policies. I don't think giving people a choice between nasty punishment or surgery is exactly progressive.John_M said:
Iran is a strange place. It actually has the world's highest GCS rates (that's sex change in non-pc speak). There is considerable pressure on gay people to transition to the 'correct' gender. Executions are generally confined to cases of gay rape.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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By Middle Eastern standards, it's also a fairly religiously tolerant society.John_M said:
Iran is a strange place. It actually has the world's highest GCS rates (that's sex change in non-pc speak). There is considerable pressure on gay people to transition to the 'correct' gender. Executions are generally confined to cases of gay rape.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
By election in the stv is under AV apparently.TheScreamingEagles said:
They should use AV, much fairer and simpler.Philip_Thompson said:"a swing of 3.5% from Lab to SNP
Labour GAIN from SNP on the sixth count"
What a stupid voting system ...0 -
Charles said:
12 + 9logical_song said:
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.
5 + 8
those seem "powerful forward movements", albeit not "sudden"
Not sudden? It seems to have caught Mr Song by surprise.
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Asia has a long and varied tradition of 'third gender' people, with varying degrees of acceptance.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Makes sense. Same-sex male couples are not responsible for very many abortionsPatrick said:
Philippines is an interesting one - where the Catholic influence appears to conflict directly with the 'ladyboy' culture but seems, bizarrely, to rub along just fine. I had any number of chaps in my department who made Julian Clary look like Rambo who were nonetheless very religious. It's abortion that the church really gets hot about over there not sexuality.Anorak said:
S. America (and the Philippines) are interestingly liberal, given how pervasive the Catholic Church is there.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
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How can there have been six rounds in a six candidate election and four rounds in a four candidate election?0
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Although people have been talking about "Tory surges" for years...MarkHopkins said:Charles said:
12 + 9logical_song said:
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.
5 + 8
those seem "powerful forward movements", albeit not "sudden"
Not sudden? It seems to have caught Mr Song by surprise.0 -
I'd forgotten about the G4S eff-up.SimonStClare said:
I seem to recall military personal were drafted into fill the gap left by missing G4S guards. Free tickets to empty seats were offered to those soldiers not on duty.PlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/supportservices/10070425/Timeline-how-G4Ss-bungled-Olympics-security-contract-unfolded.html
OT - I've a Typhoon buzzing backwards and forwards by my place. Kitties are still hiding after the Red Arrows did a great display! http://www.eastbourneairshow.com/Flying-Lineup.aspx0 -
So who would you rate higher, Gibson or Stephenson? Snow Crash was a real eye opener for me when I read it back in 1992 at the suggestion of a friend who had set up a company to create photorealistic avatars. I find Stephenson's work high on amazing ideas, but ultimately failing as literature.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.0 -
Explanation of the STV voting system used in Scottish Councils. Labour saw fewer first preference votes in Irvine west than the SNP - and fewer than last time, presumably having lost a bunch to the Conservatives. HOWEVER, Tory and Labour voters hate each other less than they loathe the SNP, so Tory second preference votes went Labour. In this way, Labour denied Nicola Sturgeon's father his seat and the prospect of romantic times spent in the council chambers together with the Lady Provost of North Ayrshire, Nicola Sturgeon's mother.0
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Gibson is a terrible author. A close-minded petty nasty backward-looking anti-intellectual technophobe who understood neither people nor technology when he wrote idiotic tomes like Neuromancer.MTimT said:I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.
Neal Stephenson is practically Gibson's opposite in every way. An open-minded intellectual futurist with a lust for technology and a love of people.
Bin Gibson, love Stephenson.
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From memory in London there were headlines about empty seats the first couple of days, turned out they were the corporate areas. They drafted off duty military and local school kids to fill the seats, I'm sure it was a great experience for themPlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
I've still got an incredibly low opinion of those who didn't bother to attend when offered a superb ring-side seat. I know during my BT days how often some great events were passed about internally the afternoon before because someone couldn't be arsed.0 -
Between Iran and Saudi, Iran seem's to have much more potential for reform.Sean_F said:
By Middle Eastern standards, it's also a fairly religiously tolerant society.John_M said:
Iran is a strange place. It actually has the world's highest GCS rates (that's sex change in non-pc speak). There is considerable pressure on gay people to transition to the 'correct' gender. Executions are generally confined to cases of gay rape.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
The corporate areas and also the seats reserved for the Olympians themselves, who in London tended not to watch other sports until they'd completed their own events.Sandpit said:
From memory in London there were headlines about empty seats the first couple of days, turned out they were the corporate areas. They drafted off duty military and local school kids to fill the seats, I'm sure it was a great experience for themPlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
I've still got an incredibly low opinion of those who didn't bother to attend when offered a superb ring-side seat. I know during my BT days how often some great events were passed about internally the afternoon before because someone couldn't be arsed.0 -
The media are a problem too (which, funnily enough, isn't reported on.) My wife and I managed to get some last minute tickets to the gymnastics in London 2012. We were in a huge empty area of seats, all of which had "press" written on them.PlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
I've still got an incredibly low opinion of those who didn't bother to attend when offered a superb ring-side seat. I know during my BT days how often some great events were passed about internally the afternoon before because someone couldn't be arsed.0 -
I see Liam Fox's department has buggered up again.
What was Theresa May when she appointed him to the cabinet? Was she thinking?0 -
Found another article about the eff-upSandpit said:
From memory in London there were headlines about empty seats the first couple of days, turned out they were the corporate areas. They drafted off duty military and local school kids to fill the seats, I'm sure it was a great experience for themPlatoSaid said:
After a few events were missing corp ticketers - didn't we offer them up for free to Armed Services/their families for London2012?Sandpit said:
Very lucky guy, but in recent years it's been almost impossible to get tickets for major events. That the stadium is half empty for the Olympic althetics first day is disappointing. In London the athletics sold out every session months in advance.MarqueeMark said:FPT: On ticket sales, it might surprise some to hear that a friend of mine turned up to Wembley for the semi-final of the 1966 World Cup - and bought a ticket on the day.
However, he still remains bitter that his friend went along to the box office on the day of the final - and got to buy a ticket for England v Germany...
I've still got an incredibly low opinion of those who didn't bother to attend when offered a superb ring-side seat. I know during my BT days how often some great events were passed about internally the afternoon before because someone couldn't be arsed.
We used 17 000 military personnel
http://www.businessinsider.com/g4s-olympic-security-disaster-2012-7?IR=T
"Last week, with less than a month to go to the opening ceremony, G4S announced that it would not be able to meet provide the staff it had said it would, falling short by over 3,500 personnel. The BBC reports that even those staff who had accepted offers with G4S have been dumbfounded by a lack of contact with the company, and many of them had not turned up to their shifts.
Given the short notice, the armed forces had to be called in to fill the spaces, meaning that over 17,000 military personnel would be on the ground or on standby in London during the games. Not only is that more than are currently in Afghanistan, these well-trained troops are being used for menial tasks."0 -
The sixth round is when there is only one candidate left, and they're given the preference votes from the candidate in second place. There would be two rounds even if there were only two candidates!ThreeQuidder said:How can there have been six rounds in a six candidate election and four rounds in a four candidate election?
Seems a bit pointless to me, but there you have it.0 -
Saudi must be one of the worst places on earth, in terms of personal freedom.AllyPally_Rob said:
Between Iran and Saudi, Iran seem's to have much more potential for reform.Sean_F said:
By Middle Eastern standards, it's also a fairly religiously tolerant society.John_M said:
Iran is a strange place. It actually has the world's highest GCS rates (that's sex change in non-pc speak). There is considerable pressure on gay people to transition to the 'correct' gender. Executions are generally confined to cases of gay rape.Sean_F said:
Being gay in Nigeria is paradise, compared to being gay in Iran. The numbers for both places like Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia were surprising, given that they were all pretty tolerant of homosexuality in the past.Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
The whisky round?ThreeQuidder said:How can there have been six rounds in a six candidate election and four rounds in a four candidate election?
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The Neuromancer trilogy is a must read, though you'd have to treat them as historical novels now. Reading the first in '85 was mind blowing. Gibson is a far better writer, but Stephenson is more entertaining (though he desperately needs a stronger editor).MTimT said:
So who would you rate higher, Gibson or Stephenson? Snow Crash was a real eye opener for me when I read it back in 1992 at the suggestion of a friend who had set up a company to create photorealistic avatars. I find Stephenson's work high on amazing ideas, but ultimately failing as literature.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.
I love, love, love Cryptonomicon (while accepting it's an acquired taste), but Neuromancer is much the better novel.
If you'll allow me to digress & recommend others- Charlie Stross's Accelerando is a valiant failure that attempts to deal with the the Singularity., while Ted Chiang is my current favourite. I believe 'Story of your Life' is being made into a film.0 -
Neal Stephenson's novels are great but he can't do endings. The finish to Cryptonomicon is a real let-down.John_M said:
The Neuromancer trilogy is a must read, though you'd have to treat them as historical novels now. Reading the first in '85 was mind blowing. Gibson is a far better writer, but Stephenson is more entertaining (though he desperately needs a stronger editor).MTimT said:
So who would you rate higher, Gibson or Stephenson? Snow Crash was a real eye opener for me when I read it back in 1992 at the suggestion of a friend who had set up a company to create photorealistic avatars. I find Stephenson's work high on amazing ideas, but ultimately failing as literature.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.
I love, love, love Cryptonomicon (while accepting it's an acquired taste), but Neuromancer is much the better novel.
If you'll allow me to digress & recommend others- Charlie Stross's Accelerando is a valiant failure that attempts to deal with the the Singularity., while Ted Chiang is my current favourite. I believe 'Story of your Life' is being made into a film.0 -
tent pissingTheScreamingEagles said:I see Liam Fox's department has buggered up again.
What was Theresa May when she appointed him to the cabinet? Was she thinking?0 -
Appeal court has blocked new members from voting.
This is going to go all the way.0 -
I lived in Newcastle-under-Lyme in 2004, it was a safe seat Labour was winning by nearly 30 points. I find it absolutely remarkable to believe it could be a marginal now.Sean_F said:
Stoke South, and Newcastle-under-Lyme now look as if they're marginal seats, and Stoke North may well be soon. All three were retained by Labour even in 1983.Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
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Ridiculous. Changing the rules after payment was made was a clear breach of contract.oxfordsimon said:Appeal court has blocked new members from voting.
This is going to go all the way.0 -
Labour are Farsical....0
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Almost as ridiculous as BBC news not covering this live - they showed the rowing instead (a direct feed from BBC1)Philip_Thompson said:
Ridiculous. Changing the rules after payment was made was a clear breach of contract.oxfordsimon said:Appeal court has blocked new members from voting.
This is going to go all the way.0 -
Glover and Stanning gold, and they had the race won by halfway, all they had to do after that was not sink.
Unbeaten since 2011.0 -
Yet another twist.0
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German Federal and Criminal Police (BKA) documents last month revealed that there are 45,120 Islamists living in Germany. Of these, 1,100 have been identified by police as members of the country’s “terrorist scene” and another 499 classified as “troublemakers”.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/11/germany-raids-islamist-preachers/0 -
Surely once you reach the round where you only have two candidates left then one has a majority already? Unless they tied and it was decided by drawing lots etcAnorak said:
The sixth round is when there is only one candidate left, and they're given the preference votes from the candidate in second place. There would be two rounds even if there were only two candidates!ThreeQuidder said:How can there have been six rounds in a six candidate election and four rounds in a four candidate election?
Seems a bit pointless to me, but there you have it.0 -
Gold!0
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The shifts in voting in some seats between 2001-15 were extraordinary.Philip_Thompson said:
I lived in Newcastle-under-Lyme in 2004, it was a safe seat Labour was winning by nearly 30 points. I find it absolutely remarkable to believe it could be a marginal now.Sean_F said:
Stoke South, and Newcastle-under-Lyme now look as if they're marginal seats, and Stoke North may well be soon. All three were retained by Labour even in 1983.Casino_Royale said:FPT @ Sean Fear - looking at the huge Leave vote in Stoke (almost 70%) and the dicey position of Labour from GE2015, I could see Labour losing all three Stoke seats at the next general election.
Including Tristam Hunt.0 -
Guido
Labour Wins Appeal to Block New Corbynista Voters https://t.co/QtmwjaV4PS https://t.co/8L0DGFly6W0 -
Sam Coates got very excited by the press release. Don't know what the fuss is about meself.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Liam Fox's department has buggered up again.
What was Theresa May when she appointed him to the cabinet? Was she thinking?0 -
Completely agree. However, the overall story is too epic for it to spoil it utterly.not_on_fire said:
Neal Stephenson's novels are great but he can't do endings. The finish to Cryptonomicon is a real let-down.John_M said:
The Neuromancer trilogy is a must read, though you'd have to treat them as historical novels now. Reading the first in '85 was mind blowing. Gibson is a far better writer, but Stephenson is more entertaining (though he desperately needs a stronger editor).MTimT said:
So who would you rate higher, Gibson or Stephenson? Snow Crash was a real eye opener for me when I read it back in 1992 at the suggestion of a friend who had set up a company to create photorealistic avatars. I find Stephenson's work high on amazing ideas, but ultimately failing as literature.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.
I love, love, love Cryptonomicon (while accepting it's an acquired taste), but Neuromancer is much the better novel.
If you'll allow me to digress & recommend others- Charlie Stross's Accelerando is a valiant failure that attempts to deal with the the Singularity., while Ted Chiang is my current favourite. I believe 'Story of your Life' is being made into a film.0 -
I was referring not to the suddenness but to the 'powerful movement' part of surge. There have been swings of 20% or so in recent by elections, 8 or 9 percent is piffling small change.MarkHopkins said:Charles said:
12 + 9logical_song said:
Definition of 'surge':Charles said:Tories +9% in Irvine West and +8% in Renfrew South.
Does this count as a Tory surge?
"A sudden powerful forward or upward movement."
So, no.
5 + 8
those seem "powerful forward movements", albeit not "sudden"
Not sudden? It seems to have caught Mr Song by surprise.0 -
Perhaps Labour will ultimately be extinguished through the financial burden of a PPE-style mis-selling scandal.
UKIP will have their work cut out to top this for a leadership election farce.0 -
I agree!! But this sets it all out for the six-rounder from yesterday...Philip_Thompson said:
Surely once you reach the round where you only have two candidates left then one has a majority already? Unless they tied and it was decided by drawing lots etcAnorak said:
The sixth round is when there is only one candidate left, and they're given the preference votes from the candidate in second place. There would be two rounds even if there were only two candidates!ThreeQuidder said:How can there have been six rounds in a six candidate election and four rounds in a four candidate election?
Seems a bit pointless to me, but there you have it.
http://www.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/Documents/CorporateServices/ChiefExecutive/Communications/Election-ResultsWard-1---Irvine-WestBreakdown.pdf0 -
Accelerando is Stross's intellectual break with and rejection of the singularians. If you look at the stuff that came out around then and shortly afterwards (AA, HS, Glasshouse et al.) you can start to see his rejection of all encompassing, all pervasive technology as a Natural Good.John_M said:Charlie Stross's Accelerando is a valiant failure that attempts to deal with the the Singularity.
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I have good news for you!Casino_Royale said:
I wouldn't want to be gay in Nigeria.Sean_F said:
Some of those numbers are surprising (on either side of the divide).John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS0 -
just on a call with someone who was at grad school with Trump
"Completely consistent...a jerk then and a jerk now"...0 -
But what does he think about Trump?Charles said:just on a call with someone who was at grad school with Trump
"Completely consistent...a jerk then and a jerk now"...0 -
Labour's appeal - which sought to argue that whether members can vote was a decision for the NEC - has been successful.
In the Corbyn-on-the-ballot, the High Court (?) judge ruled that the Courts, not the NEC were the final arbiter: that the ouster clause was not effective on this question at least.
It will be interesting to see how this is squared.0 -
Ben
Farage has grown a tash.. https://t.co/kQ4Lahi2Yj0 -
Thanks. I haven't read fiction regularly in over a decade. I found most English language new offerings so incredibly 'first world problem-obsessed' and so self-referencing that they left me cold. Hopefully this list will get me back into the habit.John_M said:
The Neuromancer trilogy is a must read, though you'd have to treat them as historical novels now. Reading the first in '85 was mind blowing. Gibson is a far better writer, but Stephenson is more entertaining (though he desperately needs a stronger editor).MTimT said:
So who would you rate higher, Gibson or Stephenson? Snow Crash was a real eye opener for me when I read it back in 1992 at the suggestion of a friend who had set up a company to create photorealistic avatars. I find Stephenson's work high on amazing ideas, but ultimately failing as literature.John_M said:
It's easy to forget how illiberal the world is - even the USA isn't _that_ keen on LGBT folk. As my favourite author says "The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed."PlatoSaid said:Holy crap
The Daily Beast has removed the article, which provoked widespread criticism for containing specific details about closeted athletes, including their nationalities.
It is believed at least one of the athletes referred to in the piece is from a country where homosexuality is illegal.
Straight journalist Nico Hines used the gay dating app Grindr to meet homosexual athletes in the Olympic village.
The article was later removed by editor John Avlon, before an apology appeared on the website.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/12/news-website-says-sorry-for-article-outing-gay-olympians-6063743/#ixzz4H7jdBiVS
I know of Neuromancer but have not read it or other of Gibson's works.
I love, love, love Cryptonomicon (while accepting it's an acquired taste), but Neuromancer is much the better novel.
If you'll allow me to digress & recommend others- Charlie Stross's Accelerando is a valiant failure that attempts to deal with the the Singularity., while Ted Chiang is my current favourite. I believe 'Story of your Life' is being made into a film.0 -
Gold!
Comedy Gold with Labour in the courts...
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Gold in the punting....0
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BBC - Labour has won an appeal against a High Court ruling that allowed new members a vote in its leadership contest. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37057589
Bored now - this leadership contest reminds me of Crossroads after Noele Gordon left.
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A reverse Mandelson.PlatoSaid said:Ben
Farage has grown a tash.. https://t.co/kQ4Lahi2Yj0
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