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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    #BREAKING Polish 2012 Olympic gold weightlifter Zielinski fails dope test
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,454

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Echo the other concerns. One more might be deeds and titles. Perhaps there is a right of way through your sitting room, or somesuch.
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    Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Don't go near it, Mr Royale, don't touch it with a barge pole. If there is one thing I have learned in my journey through this vale of tears is that something appears to be too good to be true (or too cheap), it is. Why did it fail to sell in 2012? A dang good reason, I'll bet. Stay away from it.
    Send in a surveyor, someone with good local knowledge, and commission a building survey, not a homebuyer report. It'll cost extra but for the money you're paying for the house is worth it.

    Also, not so much a case of what should you ask but who. Chat up the neighbours. Visit the local pub.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Don't go near it, Mr Royale, don't touch it with a barge pole. If there is one thing I have learned in my journey through this vale of tears is that something appears to be too good to be true (or too cheap), it is. Why did it fail to sell in 2012? A dang good reason, I'll bet. Stay away from it.
    But if the temptation is too great to drop it right away, ask the neighbours when the real estate agent is not around.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    Thrak said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Was someone murdered there?

    Maybe it's in the catchment area of a poor school. Especially if it's not detached, check up on neighbours and neighbour disputes. Is it near a noisy/smelly business or entertainment venue? Road with cuthrough traffic? Planning permissions for something that would affect it?

    Make an offer, contingent on get a full survey done. Back out if it comes back with problems. If it's been on the market for that time and it's okay, they should accept conditions on any offer I would think.
    Thanks. It's detached.

    I'm going to interrogate the estate agent and then put my wife on the case, who's a lawyer.

    Fine line between bargain and basket case.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,634
    PlatoSaid said:

    #BREAKING Polish 2012 Olympic gold weightlifter Zielinski fails dope test

    We need to delay the final Olympic table until a few weeks after the event so that the dopers and cheats can have their medals taken away.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Don't go near it, Mr Royale, don't touch it with a barge pole. If there is one thing I have learned in my journey through this vale of tears is that something appears to be too good to be true (or too cheap), it is. Why did it fail to sell in 2012? A dang good reason, I'll bet. Stay away from it.
    Thanks. I will ask.

    If I get a weaselly answer, I will make no offer.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Most likely it's just overpriced. If things are wrongly prices they just aren't selling

    If the agent didn't flinch at £525K, try below £500K... (although he now knows you have some flexibility). You could make an argument as to why £475K would be the "right" number, but I suspect that £495K will be a psychological level for the seller.

    Assuming it's in Hampshire, then it will probably be fine - a standard survey (unless old) and understanding the local development plan will probably be all you need.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    Thrak said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Was someone murdered there?

    Maybe it's in the catchment area of a poor school. Especially if it's not detached, check up on neighbours and neighbour disputes. Is it near a noisy/smelly business or entertainment venue? Road with cuthrough traffic? Planning permissions for something that would affect it?

    Make an offer, contingent on get a full survey done. Back out if it comes back with problems. If it's been on the market for that time and it's okay, they should accept conditions on any offer I would think.
    Helpful. Thanks.
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,811
    FPT

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Don't go near it, Mr Royale, don't touch it with a barge pole. If there is one thing I have learned in my journey through this vale of tears is that something appears to be too good to be true (or too cheap), it is. Why did it fail to sell in 2012? A dang good reason, I'll bet. Stay away from it.
    I am not an expert, but I am with Mr Lama. I'll also pitch in uncertain ownership (missing deeds), structural repairs without planning permission and being built above a mine (subsidence) Anyhow, you will find out what the problem is. If it was hidden, some other mug would have bought it.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    PlatoSaid said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Anyone murdered there? Neighbour problems?
    Love the way so many jump to murder!

    I'm really not a neighbourly sort. All they do is annoy me.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,454

    PlatoSaid said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Anyone murdered there? Neighbour problems?
    Love the way so many jump to murder!

    I'm really not a neighbourly sort. All they do is annoy me.
    Yes we noticed on here.

    KIDDING..
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    TOPPING said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Anyone murdered there? Neighbour problems?
    Love the way so many jump to murder!

    I'm really not a neighbourly sort. All they do is annoy me.
    Yes we noticed on here.

    KIDDING..
    Ha!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    Charles said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Most likely it's just overpriced. If things are wrongly prices they just aren't selling

    If the agent didn't flinch at £525K, try below £500K... (although he now knows you have some flexibility). You could make an argument as to why £475K would be the "right" number, but I suspect that £495K will be a psychological level for the seller.

    Assuming it's in Hampshire, then it will probably be fine - a standard survey (unless old) and understanding the local development plan will probably be all you need.
    Cheers. 5 beds normally go for 600k in that area, so I'd say there's a 10-20% haircut expected on it for some reason.

    Just not sure why.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,454

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    MaxPB said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    #BREAKING Polish 2012 Olympic gold weightlifter Zielinski fails dope test

    We need to delay the final Olympic table until a few weeks after the event so that the dopers and cheats can have their medals taken away.
    I wonder how many of these records are bent - I can see several that I'd count as junk status.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_athletics
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,703
    TOPPING said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
    Good job I'm not next to the EU ;-)
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,454

    TOPPING said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
    Good job I'm not next to the EU ;-)

    TOPPING said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
    Good job I'm not next to the EU ;-)
    LOL

    (we've moved over to the new thread sorry for the duplicate over there...)
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    PlatoSaid said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Anyone murdered there? Neighbour problems?
    Love the way so many jump to murder!

    I'm really not a neighbourly sort. All they do is annoy me.
    A friend bought a house and discovered after the event that three members of the same family had committed suicide there. Some people aren't bothered - others feel it's a jinx.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
    Good job I'm not next to the EU ;-)

    TOPPING said:

    Right, advice please.

    Wife and I looking at a property tomorrow. We both really like the look of it. It's a 5 bed and way cheaper than it should be - on for £550k but should be around £600k (it was on for sale in 2012 at 495k and failed to sell) and been with present owner since 1996.

    Estate agent didn't flinch when I said I couldn't beat £525k and we got a viewing on Sat at a time of our choice with two days notice. It's been on the market since early Feb. Kitchen is small and internally the space could be used better, but I'm astonished it hasn't shifted yet.

    What's wrong with it? What should I ask?

    Get a mining report/full conveyancing done, also check it isn't near a train track.
    It's right next to a preserved heritage railway, which mainly runs at weekends.

    I kind of love steam trains so, to me, this is a plus.
    Virtually the entire property market, certainly the one for mortals, is contingent upon one person being able to compromise and put up with something that another couldn't stand.

    It might easily be the railway, and if you like it, then you are laughing. I once lived over a pizza place. Couldn't have mattered less to me (I certainly ate more pizzas) but might have put others off, etc...
    Good job I'm not next to the EU ;-)
    LOL

    (we've moved over to the new thread sorry for the duplicate over there...)
    is that why ur called Topping! lol.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    SeanT said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    John_M said:

    SeanT said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Blimey – Team Pommey bastards leap-frogs over the Aussies into 4th - Hah, take that..

    Are we ahead of France? That's the true benchmark for glory.
    Gave up counting after 10th place :lol: but France is below Italy – that’s how bad it is for them.
    What sports are Italians/French known for? I instinctively thought of equestrian events, but could be totally wrong.
    In the postwar era, and until the UK upped its Olympic game in the late 90s, Italy and France would nearly always finish above us in the medals table. Sometimes way above us e.g. Atlanta

    See here. France 5th, Italy 6th, Britain.... 36th.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Summer_Olympics_medal_table
    As others have said, it was likely that John Major can take the credit due to his decision to create the National Lottery in '93.
    Yep. And New Labour investment in sport, to be fair
    Blair winning the 2012 Olympics for London (over Paris) is a huge factor in our success. Only he could have pulled it off.
    True. Perhaps his greatest achievement looking back. Certainly the only one entirely untarnished
    apart from the huge overspend....which they said was on budget after moving the goal posts.
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    MaxPB said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    #BREAKING Polish 2012 Olympic gold weightlifter Zielinski fails dope test

    We need to delay the final Olympic table until a few weeks after the event so that the dopers and cheats can have their medals taken away.
    Let's hope none of team have been on the special sauce!
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