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26% thought Ed Miliband would be best PM last April, 8% more than Corbynsurbiton said:
I think the comparable figure would be the percentage who thought Ed would make the best PM. Cameron always led his party.HYUFD said:
Yes, he managed to get over half the percentage Ed Miliband won last May, onwards and upwards Jezza!JackW said:Quite amazing that the Sky Data poll found 18% thought Jezza would be the better PM. Although he didn't quite beat the "Don't Knows".
Bless ....
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/23/best-pm-cameron-lead-14/?nh=find-solutions,sectors,political0 -
No, the Standard spinning a bit there as the main London paperMaxPB said:
Not really a massive "movement" is it.HYUFD said:11% of Londoners want it to be independent post Brexit, 23% want the London Assembly replaced with a London Parliament like Holyrood
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eleven-per-cent-of-people-want-london-to-become-a-separate-country-after-brexit-vote-a3292701.html0 -
And despite the complete Lib Dem collapse in 2015 he only added around 1000 votes.AndyJS said:
He also turned Pontypridd from a rock-solid Labour seat into a marginal in 2010.FrankBooth said:I think I'm right in saying that Owen Smith was the Labour candidate in the Blaenau Gwent by election in 2006. He lost to Independent Dai Davies, Peter Law's agent.
The Valleys people know when to spot a charlatan when they see one.0 -
Important to keep your friends onside.AndyJS said:
Corbyn has spent this evening addressing the Cuba Solidarity Campaign.foxinsoxuk said:
Its all a bit like Hitler's Birthday party in the bunker, as the bombs and shells fall. The level of disconnect from reality is extraordinary.Alanbrooke said:
My respect for Eagle increases. She is the only one with the guts to put herself on the line.0 -
Corbyn is Jar Jar Binks supported by the clone army.0
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Presently Labour are irrelevant, made so by their own stupidity, incompetence and stubborn refusal to face reality.foxinsoxuk said:Possibly.
The choice for sensible Labour is to fight or to become extinct. Only one option has a chance of political survival.
1. The Jezzbollah want Corbyn and they don't care.
2. The PLP want Corbyn out but lack membership support to effect change.
3. Labour voters watch the sorry mess with incredulity.
4. Swing voters are repelled by Labour
5. Nick Palmer doesn't know whether he's Arthur or Martha.
Result - Ongoing Conservative government.0 -
Yes. EEAFOMIGFUK.Paristonda said:
I am one of the rare true europhile/support the idea of ever closer union types - but as it's clear the UK is on a ever diverging path from the rest of the EU, I think an EEA type solution is the best option we have left, and we should go for it - no second votes or parliament blockages of brexit. The EEA option is not perfect, but it is a good compromise all round. If May can deliver a successful brexit-lite then she may put the europe question to bed. I'm no tory but am mildly optimistic for the first time since June 23rd.Ishmael_X said:
And she can conduct negotiations on the basis of "I didn't want this any more than you do, but we are where we are".HYUFD said:
Yes but we now have a Remainer leading the country, so the EU may be a bit more amenable
I'm optimistic of a soft landing for the first time since the vote. As I put it this morning I voted remain, but now I'm a belEEAver, and I suspect that position is quite widespread.0 -
Labour are Jawas. Purveyors of outdated scrap, inhabiting a dusty wasteland and who have a tendency to run around like headless chickens at the first sign of trouble, before getting shot in the back.Freggles said:Corbyn is Jar Jar Binks supported by the clone army.
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Dai Davis
This is a really good blog. Just 14% of private sector employees are in a TU. Shocking how we've let this happen. https://t.co/h3zZAvtGiI0 -
Ben Riley Smith
Labour NEC member compares Corbyn to Kim Jong-il over refusal to get nominations. "You can’t have people elected for life.”0 -
The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.0 -
Ah - so I see. (read up). We would be mad ever to leave EFTA. EEA is the more awkward and the one that has free movement /financial services passporting issues.rcs1000 said:
Actually, Paul, EFTA is quite good at doing trade deals. They have perfectly serviceable ones with Canada, the GCC, etc.Paul_Bedfordshire said:@RobD said in previous thread: A deal in under five months? Interesting!
The deal is already there. We leave the EU and join EFTA/EEA. Not exactly difficult to draft that.
All that has to be decided is what concessions on free movement they will agree and how much Danegeld (in membership fees higher per capita than Norway) that - they will demand/we are prepared to pay - in return.
Dosen't really take that long to agree principles behind closed doors then, after December or whenever, hold a few summits to thrash out the last details and play brinkmanship over the fees/free movement and everyone emerges triumphant into the sunlight.
We get some bells and whistles on free movement stopping people coming over here to take un/low skilled work that isn't viable without housing benefit/tax credits/free NHS (unless their own country offers similar levels which exempts France Germany etc.) they still get much of our contribution which they can ill afford to lose and six months later then France and Germany see to it that EU will implement same free movement restrictions throughout the EU (without any reduction in payments by us of course which become our EFTA "Barnet Formula").
We leave, set up our own trade deals outside the EU, carry on in EFTA and see what happens for a few years. If, in a decade or so EU is a much smaller portion of our trade, we have healthy agriculture, our seas are full of fish because we have replaced CAP/CFP with our own rules, we start handbagging for contribution reductions in the same way as Thatcher got our rebate. The won't want to lose all our contributions if they say no and we leave so will cave in.
Job done.
Even if we did decide to leave the EEA later, there's no reason to leave EFTA.
At the moment we can't afford to leave EEA. Maybe in the future, but now would be too much far too soon.0 -
in other words, we may discover in the next few days that Labour's power brokers can be as efficient and brutal as Tories.
I say may.0 -
Anyone from the BBC here? ......Is Peston here......? .....anyone? ....... At all?rcs1000 said:
Actually, Paul, EFTA is quite good at doing trade deals. They have perfectly serviceable ones with Canada, the GCC, etc.Paul_Bedfordshire said:@RobD said in previous thread: A deal in under five months? Interesting!
The deal is already there. We leave the EU and join EFTA/EEA. Not exactly difficult to draft that.
All that has to be decided is what concessions on free movement they will agree and how much Danegeld (in membership fees higher per capita than Norway) that - they will demand/we are prepared to pay - in return.
Dosen't really take that long to agree principles behind closed doors then, after December or whenever, hold a few summits to thrash out the last details and play brinkmanship over the fees/free movement and everyone emerges triumphant into the sunlight.
We get some bells and whistles on free movement stopping people coming over here to take un/low skilled work that isn't viable without housing benefit/tax credits/free NHS (unless their own country offers similar levels which exempts France Germany etc.) they still get much of our contribution which they can ill afford to lose and six months later then France and Germany see to it that EU will implement same free movement restrictions throughout the EU (without any reduction in payments by us of course which become our EFTA "Barnet Formula").
We leave, set up our own trade deals outside the EU, carry on in EFTA and see what happens for a few years. If, in a decade or so EU is a much smaller portion of our trade, we have healthy agriculture, our seas are full of fish because we have replaced CAP/CFP with our own rules, we start handbagging for contribution reductions in the same way as Thatcher got our rebate. The won't want to lose all our contributions if they say no and we leave so will cave in.
Job done.
Even if we did decide to leave the EEA later, there's no reason to leave EFTA.
Hello?
Oh?0 -
Wasn't Eagle meant to be the stalking donkey though to bring the more formidable contenders into the race?AndyJS said:
The fact that Eagle and Smith couldn't come to an agreement says it all.MaxPB said:Stupid move to split the unity vote and allow a second round and possible transfers from either of the unity candidates to Corbyn. Now it just looks like unprofessional infighting and squabbling between two people who just want to be leader rather than regicide.
Ahhh...yes.... I see what you mean.0 -
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Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson 14m14 minutes ago
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In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.0 -
What is this Charlie Falconer meme?0
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"I'm here now with Rachel, sister of Jo Johnson..."Scrapheap_as_was said:oops
Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson 14m14 minutes ago
Dear @jonsnowC4 you know I love you and @Channel4News but I will say this just once. Never introduce me as sister of Boris again. Thank you0 -
It's not elected for life. It's just avoiding the boring hassling MPs for nominations bit, after all there are allotment and appreciation group meetings to attend while the MPs plot (badly) in various backrooms.... After all nominations are for other people....JackW said:PlatoSaid said:Ben Riley Smith
Labour NEC member compares Corbyn to Kim Jong-il over refusal to get nominations. "You can’t have people elected for life.”
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He's not resigned has he.... damn, this is getting serious.Freggles said:What is this Charlie Falconer meme?
Mornington Crescent btw.0 -
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Reports of a shooting at Michigan courthouse. 3 confirmed killed so far0
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Interesting development: the deputy vice president of Die Linke, Sahra Wagenknecht, has said Merkel should call an EU referendum in Germany.0
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What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.0 -
Will do!Ishmael_X said:
No problem, good luck, final tip: check your household insurance, you may have general legal expenses cover for contractual disputes.Moses_ said:
Many thanks for your pointers on previous thread.Ishmael_X said:
And she can conduct negotiations on the basis of "I didn't want this any more than you do, but we are where we are".HYUFD said:
Yes but we now have a Remainer leading the country, so the EU may be a bit more amenableTOPPING said:
So easy to negotiate with the EU; looks like we're going to get all we want. Phewee.Paul_Bedfordshire said:@RobD said in previous thread: A deal in under five months? Interesting!
The deal is already there. We leave the EU and join EFTA/EEA. Not exactly difficult to draft that.
All that has to be decided is what concessions on free movement they will agree and how much Danegeld (in membership fees higher per capita than Norway) that - they will demand/we are prepared to pay - in return.
Dosen't really take that long to agree principles behind closed doors then, after December or whenever, hold a few summits to thrash out the last details and play brinkmanship over the fees/free movement and everyone emerges triumphant into the sunlight.
We get some bells and whistles on free movement stopping people coming over here to take un/low skilled work that isn't viable without housing benefit/tax credits/free NHS (unless their own country offers similar levels which exempts France Germany etc.) they still get much of our contribution which they can ill afford to lose and six months later then France and Germany see to it that EU will implement same free movement restrictions throughout the EU (without any reduction in payments by us of course which become our EFTA "Barnet Formula").
We leave, set up our own trade deals outside the EU, carry on in EFTA and see what happens for a few years. If, in a decade or so EU is a much smaller portion of our trade, we have healthy agriculture, our seas are full of fish because we have replaced CAP/CFP with our own rules, we start handbagging for contribution reductions in the same way as Thatcher got our rebate. The won't want to lose all our contributions if they say no and we leave so will cave in.
Job done.
Just the teensy weensy slightest doubt, however, that it will be such plain sailing. I mean this is the organisation that the Leavers say gave us such a shocking deal a matter of a few months ago.
I'm optimistic of a soft landing for the first time since the vote. As I put it this morning I voted remain, but now I'm a belEEaver, and I suspect that position is quite widespread.
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Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick 8m8 minutes ago
Owen Smith will definitely run for Labour leader, I'm told, but it may be a few days before he officially declares.
Needs a few days to get his tax returns filed and in order.0 -
smear by association?Scrapheap_as_was said:oops
Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson 14m14 minutes ago
Dear @jonsnowC4 you know I love you and @Channel4News but I will say this just once. Never introduce me as sister of Boris again. Thank you
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Unite weighs in with Michael Mansfield QC...Moses_ said:
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/corbybn-automatically-on-leader-ballot_uk_5783e4dee4b0935d4b4b53bd?jyymz9eig42r442t90 -
Well. Four Party leaders gone, vote to leave the EU. Labour gone mad...
.but three nights of Trainspotting live as a springwatch equivalent on the bbc....
Boogaloo!!!0 -
For Scrapheap, President of the PB Montie fan club
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/7525871169918771200 -
Nevada - Monmouth Uni
Clinton 45 .. Trump 41
http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_NV_071116/0 -
The fun has started...Moses_ said:
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36767308?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
This summer according to http://labourlist.org/2016/06/labours-nec-race-clp-nominations/rottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
The Unions (12 votes) and CLP (6) would give Corbyn a majority...0 -
foxinsoxuk said:
The pawn that makes its move may well become Queen...Pulpstar said:Interesting to read that Eagle is a very good chess player.
She must full well know she is Tom Watson's gambit pawn.
As much as it may amaze you, the answer to your question is yes. The man is unhinged.fitalass said:
The Labour party Leadership rules have been tested to the limit, and have proved to be totally unfit for purpose over the last couple of weeks. It seems incredible that Corbyn will even attempt to get on a Leadership ballot without the PLP nominations required?! You simple cannot run the main Opposition party, never mind a Government without the support of your Parliamentary colleagues however popular you are among the grassroots? Will Corbyn really lead the Labour party down a disastrous blind alley to obscurity over a battle for the Labour party brand?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/0 -
Deliver for women? May could always get a big pink bus and do home drops for Max Factor I suppose?TwistedFireStopper said:
Because Labour can't.AndyJS said:"Harman: Theresa May must ‘deliver for women’"
http://leftfootforward.org/2016/07/harman-theresa-may-must-deliver-for-women/0 -
Peter Snow with a Trainspotting Swingometer and 7 Class 66s on one Train...0
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National - Morning Consult
Clinton 42 .. Trump 41
https://morningconsult.com/2016/07/11/voters-largely-unmoved-potential-vp-picks-poll-shows/0 -
They need to learn a bit of respect.RodCrosby said:
The fun has started...Moses_ said:
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36767308?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
Snow - were getting very excited, weve found the flying Banana at Kings Cross.....0
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That would be the very likely outcome if the NEC sees sense tomorrow. It probably won't, and will put him on the ballot. My wife and many of my friends were Corbyn supporters. There view now? Time to go. The game's up.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.0 -
If you include self employed and partners in partnerships, then Trade Union members make up just 10.1% of all people who work in the Private sector, and will probably full to less than 10% within a year.PlatoSaid said:Dai Davis
This is a really good blog. Just 14% of private sector employees are in a TU. Shocking how we've let this happen. https://t.co/h3zZAvtGiI0 -
Well, he's got to build his media profile somehow. Would Owen Jones be popular if he got things right occasionally? Of course not! It would mean journalists couldn't feel superior to them. Same with Montie, and he needs the money to keep himself in the style to which he is accustomed.TheScreamingEagles said:For Scrapheap, President of the PB Montie fan club
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/7525871169918771200 -
They inly have her on because of who her brother is.RobD said:
smear by association?Scrapheap_as_was said:oops
Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson 14m14 minutes ago
Dear @jonsnowC4 you know I love you and @Channel4News but I will say this just once. Never introduce me as sister of Boris again. Thank you0 -
Key question - has any joker put up a market on what shoes she will wear for her first press conference at No.10?0
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Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.0 -
How VP picks would affect voters' support for presidential candidate.JackW said:National - Morning Consult
Clinton 42 .. Trump 41
https://morningconsult.com/2016/07/11/voters-largely-unmoved-potential-vp-picks-poll-shows/
More likely to support Less likely to support
Elizabeth Warren 21% 19%
Cory Booker 13% 14%
Sherrod Brown 12% 13%
Tom Perez 12% 13%
Julian Castro 13% 13%
Tim Kaine 11% 13%
Chris Christie 17% 21%
Newt Gingrich 21% 17%
Mary Fallin 11% 13%
Mike Pence 12% 12%
Jeff Sessions 12% 12%0 -
"I'm here now with Rachel, daughter of Stanley Johnson"williamglenn said:
"I'm here now with Rachel, sister of Jo Johnson..."Scrapheap_as_was said:oops
Rachel Johnson @RachelSJohnson 14m14 minutes ago
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i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC0 -
I think the NEC will see sense.Jobabob said:
That would be the very likely outcome if the NEC sees sense tomorrow. It probably won't, and will put him on the ballot. My wife and many of my friends were Corbyn supporters. There view now? Time to go. The game's up.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
Corbyn is finished.0 -
Is that you Plato? ....HYUFD said:Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/
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Just under a month then to instigate a coup in which only 1 person is on the ballot and becomes leader of the Labour party. Branding secured.bigjohnowls said:
i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC0 -
Which one is plato?HYUFD said:Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/ 0 -
Clinton 45JackW said:Nevada - Monmouth Uni
Clinton 45 .. Trump 41
http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_NV_071116/
Toast 410 -
Note to Kippers-for-Leadsom: you lost; get over it.HYUFD said:Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/0 -
Sod the Labour Party - Trainspotting Live is far more interesting.0
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Two court bailiffs were killed and a police officer injured when a shooter opened fire on a courthouse in the US. The shooter has been reported dead after shots were fired at the Berrien County Courthouse in St Joseph, Michigan
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michigan-courthouse-shooting-three-dead-84005520 -
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt0 -
I was only joking. Beyond parody.RodCrosby said:
The fun has started...Moses_ said:
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Some more random facts:
May is the oldest person to become PM since 1976;
This is the first time the PM and the LOTO have had an average age of over 60 since 1983;
The last PM to hold a voluntary election immediately on taking office was Eden in 1955;
I think May is also the first childless PM since Balfour in 1905, although I could be wrong on that.0 -
Dave is never going to get to use Cam Force One. Tis a shame, he deserved at least one journey!0
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I think the diehard Kippers will be around for a while yetStark_Dawning said:
Note to Kippers-for-Leadsom: you lost; get over it.HYUFD said:Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/0 -
''Note to Kippers-for-Leadsom: you lost; get over it. ''
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BTW SO doesnt get to vote along with anyone else who joined after 24/6/160
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As I say tomorrow's NEC says he is off the ballot. How fast can a leadership election be run in which only 1 candidate?bigjohnowls said:
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt0 -
My Corbynista friends (some of which are actually members and voted for him, to my horror) seem to wonder what he is trying to achieve by all this. Party comes first, they say. But we shall see what the NEC do.rottenborough said:
I think the NEC will see sense.Jobabob said:
That would be the very likely outcome if the NEC sees sense tomorrow. It probably won't, and will put him on the ballot. My wife and many of my friends were Corbyn supporters. There view now? Time to go. The game's up.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
Corbyn is finished.0 -
No doubt he will update us soonfelix said:
Which one is plato?HYUFD said:Breitbart reporting some Tory members 'tearing up membership cards' and joining UKIP, though I think most of those who would have gone have already left
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/11/tory-members-defect-ukip/0 -
Er Ted Heath?ydoethur said:Some more random facts:
May is the oldest person to become PM since 1976;
This is the first time the PM and the LOTO have had an average age of over 60 since 1983;
The last PM to hold a voluntary election immediately on taking office was Eden in 1955;
I think May is also the first childless PM since Balfour in 1905, although I could be wrong on that.0 -
Indeed. As soon as Corbyn goes, the new management will sweep through and clear up the mess and secure the legacy.rottenborough said:
Just under a month then to instigate a coup in which only 1 person is on the ballot and becomes leader of the Labour party. Branding secured.bigjohnowls said:
i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC
Never been a more important NEC meeting.0 -
Pence is currently fav on BF by a distance.HYUFD said:
How VP picks would affect voters' support for presidential candidate.JackW said:National - Morning Consult
Clinton 42 .. Trump 41
https://morningconsult.com/2016/07/11/voters-largely-unmoved-potential-vp-picks-poll-shows/
More likely to support Less likely to support
Elizabeth Warren 21% 19%
Cory Booker 13% 14%
Sherrod Brown 12% 13%
Tom Perez 12% 13%
Julian Castro 13% 13%
Tim Kaine 11% 13%
Chris Christie 17% 21%
Newt Gingrich 21% 17%
Mary Fallin 11% 13%
Mike Pence 12% 12%
Jeff Sessions 12% 12%0 -
Ted Heath was unmarried, no children, IIRC.ydoethur said:Some more random facts:
May is the oldest person to become PM since 1976;
This is the first time the PM and the LOTO have had an average age of over 60 since 1983;
The last PM to hold a voluntary election immediately on taking office was Eden in 1955;
I think May is also the first childless PM since Balfour in 1905, although I could be wrong on that.0 -
Should be live on Sky.Jobabob said:
Indeed. As soon as Corbyn goes, the new management will sweep through and clear up the mess and secure the legacy.rottenborough said:
Just under a month then to instigate a coup in which only 1 person is on the ballot and becomes leader of the Labour party. Branding secured.bigjohnowls said:
i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC
Never been a more important NEC meeting.0 -
"I'm here with Rachel Johnson, mother of Charlotte Dawnay. Rachel, what are Charlotte's views on Lord Falconer's resignation?"0
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Eagle, as much as I agree is atrocious, at least has the spine to stand up and be counted. It appears to be the job of female Labour MP's to be meat shield's for their cowardly comrades.Moses_ said:
Wasn't Eagle meant to be the stalking donkey though to bring the more formidable contenders into the race?AndyJS said:
The fact that Eagle and Smith couldn't come to an agreement says it all.MaxPB said:Stupid move to split the unity vote and allow a second round and possible transfers from either of the unity candidates to Corbyn. Now it just looks like unprofessional infighting and squabbling between two people who just want to be leader rather than regicide.
Ahhh...yes.... I see what you mean.0 -
Yes, I'd forgotten him. An eminently forgettable individual, in my defence.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Er Ted Heath?ydoethur said:Some more random facts:
May is the oldest person to become PM since 1976;
This is the first time the PM and the LOTO have had an average age of over 60 since 1983;
The last PM to hold a voluntary election immediately on taking office was Eden in 1955;
I think May is also the first childless PM since Balfour in 1905, although I could be wrong on that.
His sole significant achievement is also of course what May is expected to unwind.0 -
Undemocratic!!!!!!!! Think of the members!!!!!!!bigjohnowls said:BTW SO doesnt get to vote along with anyone else who joined after 24/6/16
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Watching BBC News it is clear May will struggle to hold on to major chunks of the Leave vote if she backslides at all. Private polling must explain why she had been so strong on 'Brexit means Brexit'.0
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impossible to run an election by 5/8/16.rottenborough said:
As I say tomorrow's NEC says he is off the ballot. How fast can a leadership election be run in which only 1 candidate?bigjohnowls said:
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt
Legal challenge, nominations, ballot papers. etc
Emergency Conference are a certainty if Jezza denied a place0 -
I do hope he keeps in touch. I need closure on the Nancy Cameron/apprentice issue. She had a fighting chance before. But now Dad is becoming a muggle. We're all rooting for you nonetheless Nancy!MaxPB said:Dave is never going to get to use Cam Force One. Tis a shame, he deserved at least one journey!
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Could be a 300,000 million Euro fine allegedly?
"Voters in Hungary are on a collision course with the European Union as they look certain to reject a refugee quota scheme being imposed on them by Brussels bureaucrats.A referendum is being held on October 2 and the result is expected to be an overwhelming victory for the country's hard-line Prime Minister Viktor Orbán who is leading the 'keep them out' campaign."
He has urged the country to say 'no' to all migrants – and polls suggest he is in tune with the nation with over 75 per cent of the population set to reject the EU imposed quota of 1,294 refugees.
Mr Orbán, the most vociferous anti-immigrant leader among the 28 EU nations, announced the date of the referendum days after the UK Brexit vote.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3684113/How-DARE-Brussels-tell-migrants-live-country-Hungary-vote-no-Brexit-inspired-referendum-EU-demands-1-294-refugees-pay-300million-fine-instead.0 -
I'd watch that!rottenborough said:
Should be live on Sky.Jobabob said:
Indeed. As soon as Corbyn goes, the new management will sweep through and clear up the mess and secure the legacy.rottenborough said:
Just under a month then to instigate a coup in which only 1 person is on the ballot and becomes leader of the Labour party. Branding secured.bigjohnowls said:
i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC
Never been a more important NEC meeting.0 -
Agreed its designed to stop jezza supporters of courseJobabob said:
Undemocratic!!!!!!!! Think of the members!!!!!!!bigjohnowls said:BTW SO doesnt get to vote along with anyone else who joined after 24/6/16
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Although it'll be a poor show for us popcorn addicts, I predict British politics will have returned to normality by the party conferences.Jobabob said:
My Corbynista friends (some of which are actually members and voted for him, to my horror) seem to wonder what he is trying to achieve by all this. Party comes first, they say. But we shall see what the NEC do.rottenborough said:
I think the NEC will see sense.Jobabob said:
That would be the very likely outcome if the NEC sees sense tomorrow. It probably won't, and will put him on the ballot. My wife and many of my friends were Corbyn supporters. There view now? Time to go. The game's up.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
Corbyn is finished.
May in Downing Street, 'normal' LOTO in place, Socialist Alliance/Momentum holding mass rallies of at least a hundred people being addressed by Owen.0 -
What is happening to Labour would be hilarious if the consequences were not so very serious. It's a bit like watching a car being crashed deliberately by a driver who's too stupid to have seen the warning signs and too stubborn to turn back when they realise they are wrong. But it's your car they're crashing and you've just realised they're not insured on it.bigjohnowls said:
impossible to run an election by 5/8/16.rottenborough said:
As I say tomorrow's NEC says he is off the ballot. How fast can a leadership election be run in which only 1 candidate?bigjohnowls said:
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt
Legal challenge, nominations, ballot papers. etc
Emergency Conference are a certainty if Jezza denied a place0 -
Didn't he go on one the other day. Warsaw IIRC.MaxPB said:Dave is never going to get to use Cam Force One. Tis a shame, he deserved at least one journey!
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Yes. Pathetic.Pulpstar said:
They need to learn a bit of respect.RodCrosby said:
The fun has started...Moses_ said:
Let's just say they don't put Corby on the ballot and elect someone else. Can you just imagine the punch up that would ensue for the front bench seat when Corbyn refused to move. The shenanigans of the Beasty of Bolsover would be a kiddies picnic in comparison.TheScreamingEagles said:
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NuLab has a history of ensuring it gets the legal advice it wants to hear though doesn't it?rottenborough said:
As I say tomorrow's NEC says he is off the ballot. How fast can a leadership election be run in which only 1 candidate?bigjohnowls said:
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt0 -
Anti Corbyn NEC reckon Jezza can be kept off iff the NEC vote is a secret ballot.Jobabob said:
I'd watch that!rottenborough said:
Should be live on Sky.Jobabob said:
Indeed. As soon as Corbyn goes, the new management will sweep through and clear up the mess and secure the legacy.rottenborough said:
Just under a month then to instigate a coup in which only 1 person is on the ballot and becomes leader of the Labour party. Branding secured.bigjohnowls said:
i received mine todayrottenborough said:
What is the timetable for election of new NEC?bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
5th August it says for new NEC
Never been a more important NEC meeting.
Probably not if its a normal vote.
FFS0 -
An election with one candidate? Ergo a coronation of a caretaker?bigjohnowls said:
impossible to run an election by 5/8/16.rottenborough said:
As I say tomorrow's NEC says he is off the ballot. How fast can a leadership election be run in which only 1 candidate?bigjohnowls said:
Which NEC the one in place by 5th August will cement the lefts control of the party.Jobabob said:
Fantasy. If the NEC says he needs nominations his goose is cooked. They probably won't. But if they do the game's up.bigjohnowls said:
In your dreams.rottenborough said:The Labour war might be solved rather quick than we imagine. NEC vote that Corbyn is off ballot without 51. He resigns. Can't even get the 38 needed in that case. Starts legal proceedings - gets nowhere as a court will rule that NEC is final decider of these matters.
Twitter breaks under the strain of howling Momentum (although bear in mind most of them will be away InterRailing in August) and goes off-line for a week. Deselections start in some local parties.
But, Party bigwigs and union bosses decide on a caretaker from Eagle or Owen, or maybe Benn or even Johnson or Lord Kinnock, anyone to get them through next 12 months. No election as only one candidate can meet the 38 MPs target. Crucially they take control of the branding again.
Corbyn forms own party - Momentum. Starts polling about 5%.
Thus, endeth the Corbyn era.
If tomorrows NEC doesn't allow Jezza to stand.
Corbyn gets a 6-0 NEC result from members.
New NEC overules previous exclusion
Jezza wins SDP2 launches
Thus, endeth the Blairite era.
SDP2 ensues no union funding bugger all membership.
I n the meantime 15 years of Tory Govt
Legal challenge, nominations, ballot papers. etc
Emergency Conference are a certainty if Jezza denied a place0
