Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Undefined discussion subject.

189111314

Comments

  • tysontyson Posts: 6,121
    stjohn said:

    Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.

    REMAIN 1.52
    LEAVE 2.9

    Who's right? The PB Brains trust or Betfair?

    Come on StJohn, that is the spirit- you are giving me hope comrade
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,118

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    stjohn said:

    Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.

    REMAIN 1.52
    LEAVE 2.9

    Who's right? The PB Brains trust or Betfair?

    It's just like general election night.
    You calling it for Leave?
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    Nottingham:

    A total of 120,792 people cast a vote here in Nottingham.

    The size of the electorate was 195,394, meaning there was a 61.82 per cent turnout.

    Supposed to be pro-remain . . .
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,376
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    Western Isles:

    Remain 8,232 (55%)
    Leave 6,671 (45%)

    much better for LEAVE
    Have you done your own model or using Hanretty/Andy ?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040
    Mortimer said:

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    Agreed.

    Well, he's promised no tax rises, increased public spending, cheaper housing and significantly lower immigration. It will be interesting to watch him deliver.

  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    He should stay as Lord Chancellor... and become Chancellor of the Exchequer too... CombiChancellor!
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,582

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,722

    This is a revolution.

    It'll be a close Leave victory, I reckon.

    Which is good for my gambling P&L. :)

    But I do hope that we find a solution that works for the 70%, not the 51%.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Remain can still win with big results in London and Edinburgh/Aberdeen.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Nottingham:

    A total of 120,792 people cast a vote here in Nottingham.

    The size of the electorate was 195,394, meaning there was a 61.82 per cent turnout.

    Disappointing turnout.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,424
    edited June 2016
    Leave at ~69% in Hartlepool (reports, not counts)
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,918
    Leave on 69% in Hartlepool.
  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Yup.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,722
    London is coming in ahead of expectations for Remain, so i reckon it's a 51:49 victory for Leave.
  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287
    Hartlepool 69% leave according to rumour from BBC presenter. Par was 60%
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Britain will be torn apart by this.

    I disagree. I don;t think you have evidence for that.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649

    BBC coverage starting to grate now.

    I'm loving every second of it. The desperate straw-clutching. The denial...Hartlepool!
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    He should stay as Lord Chancellor... and become Chancellor of the Exchequer too... CombiChancellor!
    Lord Chancellor of the Exchequer before he becomes First Lord of the Treasury?
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    PlatoSaid said:

    taffys said:

    Polling disaster.

    A bit of an understatement!!

    Right now Populus must be wishing they'd never polled anyone this week
    Bet Andrew Cooper isn't looking quite as smug now.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,368
    pbr2013 said:

    This is a revolution.

    Starting to look like that.
    And like most revolutions, once it is won the winning wide will quickly fall out for lack of a credible plan, no consensus around its leadership and rivalry for position and power, and against the background of both economic and financial turmoil there is going to be the mother of all backlashes once the more naive sections of the public discover that immigration doesn't end and the government has less money to spend rather than more....
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.</blockquote
    Rejoice Rejoice.

  • LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    East Ayrshire:

    Remain wins but only with 50.7%

    Blimey.
    East Ayrshire is Kilmarnock and lots and lots of very poor former mining towns. Its a surprise but not that much of one.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    But in a good way.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Labour MPs will wake up to the news that they are elected by knuckle-dragging racist Little Englanders....

    The "Little Englander" tag is this campaigns Ed Stone....tarring a huge percentage of the population as closest racists after years of being called that by Labour looks like it has got a certain demographic fired up to vote Leave.
    Yep. My family's Tory voter quotient dropped from 11 to 0 overnight.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,903
    I think "the market" feels that the big cities will pull it round for REMAIN. But no-one here seems to think so. I can't call it myself.
  • LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651

    John_M said:

    DearPB said:

    tlg86 said:

    felix said:

    tlg86 said:

    felix said:

    Looks a very disappointing night for us expats - will be interested to know how soon we'll get any kind of resolution on our future status re taxation, healthcare , residency rights etc. For many pensioners a 10%+ drop in sterling means 10% less pension to liver on each month. For us these things really do matter. Don't expect much sympathy on here but we are British citizens and entitled to some consideration from our government.

    Sorry, no sympathy - you choice to live somewhere that doesn't use the Pound.
    Ah the charm of the Leaver writ large - most made the choice many years ago when EU membership was not in question. I'm not sure you'll be so happy if thousands of expats have to return in order to get healthcare no longer provided as at present in their adopted country - I hope the NHS is fully geared up.
    I really doubt the French and Spanish are going to chuck out immigrants who spend money in their countries.
    Well we're going to kick out immigrants who add to the vibrancy of our economy, so people do strange things sometimes.
    Wut? Who's kicking out people?

    Honestly, I do believe that people on both sides have just been making shit up out of thin air. We're British, goddamit, we do not deport people willy nilly c.f. Abu fecking Hamza.
    Except that's exactly the kind of scenario many Leave voters will have fondly imagined at some point during this campaign, knowingly whipped up by Gove, Farage et al.
    Got a link to a quote from any leading Leave campaigner, threatening deportations of law-abiding citizens?

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822

    The Treasuries own ludicrously biased report did not project massive economic disruption.

    That's because it was looking only at the long-term effects.

    I'm afraid I'm going to be proven right on this. And I really can't see what any government can do about it, other than try to get a new deal with the EU in place as quickly as possible. Even in the most optimistic scenario, though, I can't see how that can be faster than two years, and it might take a lot longer.

    Added to the economic problems, we're about to get a prolonged period of political chaos. It ain't gonna be pretty.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,251
    We're going to see lots of blue in County Durham for the first time in a long time!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,579
    Will we know the result before the FTSE opens? If it's Leave, what will it open at?
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    This is a revolution.

    Will it devour its children?
  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    pbr2013 said:

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    But in a good way.
    I think not, but I hesitate to engage in the partisanship common on this site.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,778
    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,743
    Lowlander said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    East Ayrshire:

    Remain wins but only with 50.7%

    Blimey.
    East Ayrshire is Kilmarnock and lots and lots of very poor former mining towns. Its a surprise but not that much of one.
    This is good. If Scotland is closer to the UK baseline it makes it much easier to craft a result that both nations can accept.

    London is going to be pissed come what may.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,376
    I greened up, gone back in at 2.88 - Sunderland doesn't seem to have been a fluke.

    -70/+170 now.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,202

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    He should stay as Lord Chancellor... and become Chancellor of the Exchequer too... CombiChancellor!
    Duchy of Lancaster as well? Triumvirate?
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,229

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    No, it is a revolution against the EU as well.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    Chris Bryant says 'tosspot' Miliband to blame for state Labour is in

    Labour figures are also attacking each other. Talking to guests at the Stronger In referendum party, Chris Bryant, the shadow leader of the Commons, denounced Ed Miliband when he saw the former party leader being interviewed on TV. He said:

    I might go and punch him because he’s a tosspot and he left the party in the state it’s in.

    LOL. These so-called Labour moderates blaming Corbyn or Miliband, rather than accepting that one of their main raison d'etres just is not popular with Joe Public.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,722
    Pulpstar said:

    I greened up, gone back in at 2.88 - Sunderland doesn't seem to have been a fluke.

    -70/+170 now.

    I think I'm going to be 5-10k up tonight.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.
    Well they just that off the 3 alternative contingency plans the civil service will have developed.

    Wait, you didn't actually believe Isborne's low that there was contingency plan?
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Big for LEAVE
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,376
    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Viktor Orban supports us come what may.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,735
    John_M said:

    I'm still urging calm. Given that we've had results that are kinda wildly different from expectations, we could equally have bizarro results going the other way. It's going to be a close race, that's the main thing.

    It might not be close. You could have bizarre votes the other way, but is that likely? Why have areas been more leave than expected? Because the EU has been so arrogant, so bad at demonstrating any worth. They bring the case remain areas may next treading water .

    Will be starting counting soon, so won't be on for a while, but I'm very confident my 54 46 for leave will be close to the result. I think the trend is more leave than expected.

    It's over
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040
    IanB2 said:

    pbr2013 said:

    This is a revolution.

    Starting to look like that.
    And like most revolutions, once it is won the winning wide will quickly fall out for lack of a credible plan, no consensus around its leadership and rivalry for position and power, and against the background of both economic and financial turmoil there is going to be the mother of all backlashes once the more naive sections of the public discover that immigration doesn't end and the government has less money to spend rather than more....

    And millions of ordinary punters will pay the price. Leavers have to take control quickly and they have to start delivering quickly.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,873
    edited June 2016
    Suggestion...when people post a new result, can they post turn-out and also "par".
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,743
    rcs1000 said:

    This is a revolution.

    It'll be a close Leave victory, I reckon.

    Which is good for my gambling P&L. :)

    But I do hope that we find a solution that works for the 70%, not the 51%.
    EEA-EFTA
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
  • oldpoliticsoldpolitics Posts: 455
    Leave are only marginally ahead with no results in from London - is Scotland counting disproportionately fast? Seem to have been a lot of results from there.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,025

    alex. said:

    To be fair we've still had less than a million votes counted

    Actual results compared to (flawed) poll samples in the thousands....
    Yes, but, for all the work done on Spreadsheets etc, no-one really knew for sure where the votes would stack up. till very early days. It strikes me that the accuracy of the polls probably exceeds that of where the votes will be. So I'm not getting over-excited just yet.
    Happy for those with more understanding of these things to correct me.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Labour: It's all the tories fault
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Mortimer said:

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    Agreed.

    Well, he's promised no tax rises, increased public spending, cheaper housing and significantly lower immigration. It will be interesting to watch him deliver.

    Lol - the printers are gonna be mighty busy delivering that.
  • GravitationGravitation Posts: 287

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Par for Remain was 37%

    Pretty big if repeated.
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,844
    Assuming it is Leave, as someone genuinely pro-EU i'll be sad to see us leave the EU - but then i've long been aware my views are a small minority.

    If it is a close leave vote, i've seen various non-ukip leave politicians suggesting delaying article 50, and respecting the votes of the other side. Seems to me like there will certainly be a push for EFTA, which from a personal perspective will be fine for me as an expat.

    We will see most tory leavers push for EFTA, plus nearly all remainers - plus probably brexit papers like Telegraph and Sunday Times. I think Vote Leave's immigration campaign will be unspoken of again after tonight - it will be in remainers interests to sweep that under the rug and get us on EFTA, which actually chimes nicely with what Boris, Gove etc probably prefer to do.

    There will be a strong UKIP as a result.


    If leave win by more than 54% I think they will struggle to play the "heal a divided nation with compromise" routine.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    edited June 2016
    BBC: Birmingham - Remain between 55 and 60
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,229

    BBC coverage starting to grate now.

    I gave it five seconds after switching over from Sky. There were some young blokes in what looked like someone's sitting room. WTF?
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    Mortimer said:

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    He should stay as Lord Chancellor... and become Chancellor of the Exchequer too... CombiChancellor!
    Duchy of Lancaster as well? Triumvirate?
    Why not? He deserves it if Leave win.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,202

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    Have a great holiday Alastair.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822

    It is times like this that I am glad of my government salary.

    I may even get a payrise with Gove spending an extra £100 million per week on the NHS.

    Watches squadron of pigs flying past the window.

    Yeah, you'll be fine. So will I.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,722
    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    I'm hearing 58 to 60
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Leave just win in Basildon 68.6 31.4 (good for Leave)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Hartlepool:

    Remain 30.4%
    Leave 69.6%
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,229
    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    That's a very big spread.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,081
    HYUFD said:
    Basildon still giving me nightmares!!!
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,040

    rcs1000 said:

    This is a revolution.

    It'll be a close Leave victory, I reckon.

    Which is good for my gambling P&L. :)

    But I do hope that we find a solution that works for the 70%, not the 51%.
    EEA-EFTA

    That would be a huge betrayal of working class Leave voters.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,743

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    Ballpark for what they needed for a 50/50 result.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
  • YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    rcs1000 said:

    This is a revolution.

    It'll be a close Leave victory, I reckon.

    Which is good for my gambling P&L. :)

    But I do hope that we find a solution that works for the 70%, not the 51%.
    It's a massive and clear vote against unstoppable forces of globalisation and the relative decline of the West. There is no solution that works for 70%. That's the whole message of the vote.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    stjohn said:

    I think "the market" feels that the big cities will pull it round for REMAIN. But no-one here seems to think so. I can't call it myself.

    But Newcastle didn't. Heard bad rumours about Sheffield.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Suggestion...when people post a new result, can they post turn-out and also "par".

    Only three places have been better for Remain. Everywhere else better for LEAVE...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,778
    RodCrosby said:

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
    Basildon, #EUref result:
    Remain: 31.4% (30,748)
    Leave: 68.6% (67,251)

    Big for LEAVE
    Not a surprise.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    That's a very big spread.
    My par figure is 58.5%.
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    I'm hearing 58 to 60
    Strong Remain area but only par again.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Birmingham 55-60% remain apparently

    Very good for remain?
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,121
    Come on you Brummy bastards....get in there......
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Peter Mandelson's old stomping ground gone 70% Leave. LOL!
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449
    Soon we will find out if we should have listened to the experts
  • RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255

    Lowlander said:

    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    East Ayrshire:

    Remain wins but only with 50.7%

    Blimey.
    East Ayrshire is Kilmarnock and lots and lots of very poor former mining towns. Its a surprise but not that much of one.
    This is good. If Scotland is closer to the UK baseline it makes it much easier to craft a result that both nations can accept.

    London is going to be pissed come what may.
    I don't think Scotland can be reconciled to exit. Given the massive discrepancy in results, I don't even think, in the future, that London may be, without some sort of special arrangement.

    These are very grave implications for the future of the entire U.K, and not just partisanship.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,118
    To use a different historical analogy, this is the February revolution. Sadly the people who instigated it are blind to the October revolution heading our way...
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    More expert analysis from Lindsay Lohan:

    Lindsay Lohan ‏@lindsaylohan 22m22 minutes ago
    @BorisJohnson using your child's graduation for CAMPAIGN? sounds like someone in USA who used a child out of wedlock for PR.... #Remain
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,743

    SeanT said:

    I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.

    I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.

    It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.

    I'm relieved that you agree on the prices - I thought I must be going mad.
    I'd not put too much at stake on this referendum till tonight but I'm rapidly rethinking what it is appropriate to commit.
    Best bet is to move to Jobbik's Hungary, mate. Where they are more cosmopolitan.
    Enjoy your evening. Tonight is a night for Leavers to exult. The lunatics are taking over the asylum. We shall have to hope against all logic that it sort of works out ok.
    How long are we going to have to wait before you calm down too?
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    The country is about to vote Leave on the back of opposition to immigration/free movement, and tomorrow morning there will be a massive majority in the country in favour of free movement.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    rcs1000 said:

    This is a revolution.

    It'll be a close Leave victory, I reckon.

    Which is good for my gambling P&L. :)

    But I do hope that we find a solution that works for the 70%, not the 51%.
    EEA-EFTA

    That would be a huge betrayal of working class Leave voters.

    Oh well.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649

    pbr2013 said:

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    But in a good way.
    I think not, but I hesitate to engage in the partisanship common on this site.
    What's not to like? A long overdue reminder of who is master. Ie not the politicians...uh oh. Some talking head going on about a last stand at Worcester, falling back to London if all else fails.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2016
    "Labour's Chris Bryant says he might punch Ed Miliband 'because he's a tosspot'."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/eu-referendum-will-it-be-brexit-exit-poll-and-results-live/
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    This is a revolution.

    It might be, Mr.Royale, it is certainly shaping up to be the biggest bloody nose the establishment has received since 1945.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,406
    Stockton Leave 62%
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Stockton 62% leave
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.

    What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.
    As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.

    Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.

    Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.

    Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.
    He should stay as Lord Chancellor... and become Chancellor of the Exchequer too... CombiChancellor!
    Lord Chancellor of the Exchequer before he becomes First Lord of the Treasury?
    Meh. First Lord (sometimes referred to as the Prime MInister, whatever that's meant to signify) is a lesser rank in the order of precedence... not even a proper Great Officer of State (being only the lead member of the board of commission of Lord Treasurer)..
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Telegraph says leading pollster says "Brexit most likely result now"
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    This is a revolution.

    But not against the EU...

    Britain will be torn apart by this.
    Calm the fuck down, and get a grip.

    This "us" versus "them" stuff is no longer helpful.

    We all need to pull together now and make it work.
    I'm not pulling together with people who court xenophobia. Absolutely not.
    Grow up. The campaigns over this spin is petulant.
This discussion has been closed.