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They have a much better calibre of politician in Scotland- from Salmond and Sturgeon, to Ruth and Malcolm, to Darling and Cooke and Brownfitalass said:
Tyson, he is, I think he has written horse racing columns in the pasttyson said:
It looks like he's a punterTheScreamingEagles said:
Alex Salmond has often quoted PB/Mike, once famously in the House of CommonsGravitation said:Salmond quoting spread betting figures!
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What fresh hell is this?Danny565 said:Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan 10m10 minutes ago
#REMAIN Sorry, but #KETTERING where are you&why is this woman @BBCNews speaking on people rather than TELLING us what happens if UK LEAVES?
Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan 4m4 minutes ago
i love the #shetlands @BBCNews thank goodness we have pure hearted people our side #besmart #ShetlandsVSSunderland #BringItOn0 -
People maybe queuing at the ATMs right now.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
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Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.0
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Should ask them why they hadn't been arsed to actually register and vote.Gravitation said:Why are they interviewing slightly drunk twenty somethings in a pub?
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I'm staring at the 2.84 on Brexit wondering if I should put my £33 on it...0
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if true very bad for remain.KentRising said:
The LONDON BOROUGH of Sutton??timmo said:Sutton leaning leave by quite a margin in wards where historically there was low turnout!!
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Sky seem to be better on the most part, apart from Kay as you say!DavidL said:
Ive gone back to Sky again. Until Kay comes back on....Gallowgate said:Awful BBC coverage so far.
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Isles of Scilly?FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Lindsay Lohan? What the actual fuck?Freggles said:
What fresh hell is this?Danny565 said:Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan 10m10 minutes ago
#REMAIN Sorry, but #KETTERING where are you&why is this woman @BBCNews speaking on people rather than TELLING us what happens if UK LEAVES?
Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan 4m4 minutes ago
i love the #shetlands @BBCNews thank goodness we have pure hearted people our side #besmart #ShetlandsVSSunderland #BringItOn0 -
That's exactly what many of them want, remember...FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.Philip_Thompson said:
As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.
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This is easily the most momentous change (if we leave) that we've voted for since at least 1979. Maybe even 1945.JosiasJessop said:If - as looks likely - it is a leave vote, we're in for some fairly unprecedented times.
I'm particularly interested in the effect it has on the EU itself. Will anyone else try to follow?
Possible Scottish independence. Issues over Gibraltar. Constitutional shifts, possibly on a seismic scale. We're into really interesting territory. Volatile and possibly painful along the way but interesting, I guess...0 -
Dugdale says Glasgow votes Remain0
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Swindon, a littleFrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Gibraltar!HYUFD said:
Isles of Scilly?FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.
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West Tyrone: 67% Remain0
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Broxtowe Council @broxtowebc
Broxtowe turnout was 77.3% - we are now starting the counting of votes0 -
Exactly Richard, exactly.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
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Don't think so. That assumes everyone acts stupidly and it's a clusterfuck.felix said:
Usually the markets are difficult to control in these situations - I'd expect sterling down to between 1 and 1.10 to the euro at best. It could be much worse. I aso think it will probably be sustained with a knock on effect to inflation and unemployment.Casino_Royale said:
Do you know if your side are doing the responsible thing, now, and preparing a statement for Cameron to deliver in the morning to reassure the markets and EU on this?TheScreamingEagles said:
Someone else has texted me that South Yorkshire might have gone Leave.Richard_Tyndall said:
You are just trolling TSE. :-)KeithJenner said:
I have heard a rumour (second hand, so no idea of its accuracy) that Sheffield may be towards 70% leave. Sounds very high to me.Casino_Royale said:
Southampton, Sheffield, Leicester, and Nottingham are my bellwethers.TGOHF said:Portsmouth is looking like 57% Leave, Southampton 60% Leave. Both were expected to be more level.
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They all go Leave, Leave have a clear win.
Did not see that coming.
Not a jibe. Genuinely hoping we pull together a quick stabilisation plan now.
Reality just changed. So expect people to start acting differently.0 -
Leave 2.88 on Betfair !!!
Shareholders HEDGE.0 -
He's far too pro Remain like Faisal. It colours everything they say.FrancisUrquhart said:
Conway is f##king useless...hunchman said:
Errrr no. It fell from the DM2.7780 floor to under DM2.40 which was a 15% fall. Fall tonight so far 2%.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ed Conway should hang his head in shame coming out with something as factually inaccurate as that!0 -
Not yet. Liverpool is the only one I'm aware of that is coming their way.FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Glasgow turnout 56%. Not good at all for Remain0
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Not declared but it looks like some London boroughs will be very good for Remain.FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Nick P's old stomping ground.rottenborough said:Broxtowe Council @broxtowebc
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Nope, I was expecting a remain vote there of 60-70% based on local knowledge.HYUFD said:
Isles of Scilly?FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Western Isles:
Remain 8,232 (55%)
Leave 6,671 (45%)0 -
Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.SouthamObserver said:
Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.Philip_Thompson said:
As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
Western Isles votes IN, reverse of 19750
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I have another uni visit in a few hours....If it carries on like this, I hate to think what lemming (the 90's computer game) like behaviour I might witness.0
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Not in Unionist North Antrim!williamglenn said:
That's exactly what many of them want, remember...FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
The link goes through to the FT which is doing the value of £ vs the dollar.hunchman said:
Errrr no. It fell from the DM2.7780 floor to under DM2.40 which was a 15% fall. Fall tonight so far 2%.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ed Conway should hang his head in shame coming out with something as factually inaccurate as that!0 -
Polling disaster.
A bit of an understatement!!0 -
To be fair we've still had less than a million votes counted0
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even, as I mentioned if there are vast and definitive divergences between London and the rest of the country, a possible shift to some sort of special status for London. Everything is up in the air, and the UK could be finished.numbertwelve said:
This is easily the most momentous change (if we leave) that we've voted for since at least 1979. Maybe even 1945.JosiasJessop said:If - as looks likely - it is a leave vote, we're in for some fairly unprecedented times.
I'm particularly interested in the effect it has on the EU itself. Will anyone else try to follow?
Possible Scottish independence. Issues over Gibraltar. Constitutional shifts, possibly on a seismic scale. We're into really interesting territory. Volatile and possibly painful along the way but interesting, I guess...0 -
East Ayrshire In0
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Yeah, but good for my short turnout bet on Spreadex.Richard_Tyndall said:Glasgow turnout 56%. Not good at all for Remain
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Come on you Tories.....I'll never say a bad word about a pro Euro Tory, ever....RodCrosby said:
Swindon, a littleFrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Nottingham:
A total of 120,792 people cast a vote here in Nottingham.
The size of the electorate was 195,394, meaning there was a 61.82 per cent turnout.
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It's going to be one almighty clusterfuck. Still, it's happening.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
I'm still urging calm. Given that we've had results that are kinda wildly different from expectations, we could equally have bizarro results going the other way. It's going to be a close race, that's the main thing.0
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A perfectly natural reaction to what the Establishment have tried to do to England in the last 20 years.numbertwelve said:
This is easily the most momentous change (if we leave) that we've voted for since at least 1979. Maybe even 1945.JosiasJessop said:If - as looks likely - it is a leave vote, we're in for some fairly unprecedented times.
I'm particularly interested in the effect it has on the EU itself. Will anyone else try to follow?
Possible Scottish independence. Issues over Gibraltar. Constitutional shifts, possibly on a seismic scale. We're into really interesting territory. Volatile and possibly painful along the way but interesting, I guess...
Who Saves A Nation Violates No Law0 -
Ha ha. Maybe Lindsay Lohan can stand for the Scottish parliament. Enjoying your evening?tyson said:
They have a much better calibre of politician in Scotland- from Salmond and Sturgeon, to Ruth and Malcolm, to Darling and Cooke and Brownfitalass said:
Tyson, he is, I think he has written horse racing columns in the pasttyson said:
It looks like he's a punterTheScreamingEagles said:
Alex Salmond has often quoted PB/Mike, once famously in the House of CommonsGravitation said:Salmond quoting spread betting figures!
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Sutton? Sutton! Lib Dem heartland (once was).0
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Labour MPs will wake up to the news that they are elected by knuckle-dragging racist Little Englanders....0
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This is a revolution.0
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The next leader of the Tory Party is on Sky.0
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Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.
REMAIN 1.52
LEAVE 2.9
Who's right? The PB Brains trust or Betfair?0 -
Umm, North Antrim is MASSIVELY Unionist.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
East Ayrshire:
Correction: Remain 58.6%.0 -
East Ayrshire almost voted out!
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Early indications for London is that level of remain vote is good but turnout not so muchHYUFD said:
Isles of Scilly?FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Crabbe on Sky saying he's not as bullish as colleagues "as I've been out of London today".0
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Cardiff turnout may be 69.7%.0
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Now nationally Leave 50.2% In 49.8%0
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Yep, the real world kicks in.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.
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I predicted a 50/50 vote in the last few days
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Agreed.Philip_Thompson said:
Agreed. Gove as Chancellor by 9am is what I said a few days ago if Leave wins. Not seen anything to change my mind.SouthamObserver said:
Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.Philip_Thompson said:
As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
The Treasuries own ludicrously biased report did not project massive economic disruption.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
Great Yarmouth turnout reported by EDP Correspondent at only 61%. This is the most Brexit place according to Sky News.0
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I think Scotland, NI, London will all make the 60:40 for Remain that was expected.kle4 said:
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England is more Leave than expected.
51:49 to Leave0 -
Ladbrokes and bet365 both 8/15 v 11/8 fwiw i.e. they don't think betfair has moved enoughstjohn said:Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.
REMAIN 1.52
LEAVE 2.9
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Golly, there was someone on here earlier today swearing blind they'd be Leave.AndyJS said:Western Isles:
Remain 8,232 (55%)
Leave 6,671 (45%)0 -
I think that is right - some are almost talking as if it's great but nothing to do with them what happens next. I understand why nut I'm afraid it does not bode well for the coming months and years.SouthamObserver said:
Not good enough. Leave now own this. They have to take control. Many millions of households depend on it.Philip_Thompson said:
As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.Richard_Nabavi said:
What do you suggest they do? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't know how the government can possibly protect the UK economy from this, other than the BoE providing unlimited liquidity to banks.Philip_Thompson said:I seriously hope George Osborne and/or Sir Humphrey has got a Plan B for tomorrow. Be a huge dereliction of duty if there wasn't one.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
Starting to look like that.Casino_Royale said:This is a revolution.
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It's just like general election night.stjohn said:Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.
REMAIN 1.52
LEAVE 2.9
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Richard Willis old stomping ground.FrankBooth said:Sutton? Sutton! Lib Dem heartland (once was).
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I'm touched by those who have been asking after me. I've been packing to flee the country tomorrow.
I have, however, found time to keep backing Leave at regular intervals tonight. The prices are incomprehensible.
It will provide some minor compensation for having my country torn away from me.0 -
And given LEAVE majored on Immigration difficult to see how anyone can sell a solution that involves the four freedoms...Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
There is a wall of unmatched bets on Betfair that need to be worked through before the price will fall. If you think leave will win then it is there for the taking....stjohn said:Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.
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LEAVE 2.9
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The Polish Ambassador quietly drops the phrase " acquired rights " into the conversation. So many voters are in for a shock.0
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Richard, you hit the nail on the head! Absolutely unbelievable to try and blame the Chancellor for stating his economic predictions on the back of a leave vote if they are proved correct.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
Not good for Remain.rottenborough said:Nottingham:
A total of 120,792 people cast a vote here in Nottingham.
The size of the electorate was 195,394, meaning there was a 61.82 per cent turnout.
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Actual results compared to (flawed) poll samples in the thousands....alex. said:To be fair we've still had less than a million votes counted
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Richmond on Thames over 80% turnout reportedIanB2 said:
Early indications for London is that level of remain vote is good but turnout not so muchHYUFD said:
Isles of Scilly?FrankBooth said:Has Remain had a single good result? I mean genuinely above expectations.
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Probably never been to Stornoway or Benbecula. I haven't!Theuniondivvie said:
Golly, there was someone on here earlier today swearing blind they'd be Leave.AndyJS said:Western Isles:
Remain 8,232 (55%)
Leave 6,671 (45%)0 -
The "Little Englander" tag is this campaigns Ed Stone....tarring a huge percentage of the population as closest racists after years of being called that by Labour looks like it has got a certain demographic fired up to vote Leave.MarqueeMark said:Labour MPs will wake up to the news that they are elected by knuckle-dragging racist Little Englanders....
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I feel sorry for the Polish ambassador, the Beeb woman keeps cutting him off.0
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Radio 4 are saying things like Leave is doing better than if the two sides were performing at parity. Talk about circumlocution!stjohn said:Everyone here is calling it for LEAVE but Betfair has not really budged in the last hour.
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LEAVE 2.9
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Chris Bryant says 'tosspot' Miliband to blame for state Labour is in
Labour figures are also attacking each other. Talking to guests at the Stronger In referendum party, Chris Bryant, the shadow leader of the Commons, denounced Ed Miliband when he saw the former party leader being interviewed on TV. He said:
I might go and punch him because he’s a tosspot and he left the party in the state it’s in.0 -
he talked the economy down and said he had no plan.fitalass said:
Richard, you hit the nail on the head! Absolutely unbelievable to try and blame the Chancellor for stating his economic predictions on the back of a leave vote if they are proved correct.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.0 -
BBC coverage starting to grate now.0
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It is times like this that I am glad of my government salary.Richard_Nabavi said:
You haven't answered my question, but in any case of course it's not Osborne who has trashed our prospects. This stuff is for real. The idea that we could leave the EU with no plan from the Leave side, without massive economic disruption, was always cloud-cuckoo land - as it looks as though we shall find out, starting tomorrow. Combined with the economic chaos is going to be political chaos. Fasten your seat belts.Philip_Thompson said:As the saying goes Osborne should not be starting here.
Osborne should have been more circumspect and not trashed our prospects if we vote Leave, he has about as much credibility now as Gerald Ratner.
I may even get a payrise with Gove spending an extra £100 million per week on the NHS.
Watches squadron of pigs flying past the window.0