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He will be in full on stealth submarine mode if that happens.Sean_F said:
After six years of economic growth, a recession (even if only a mild one) is quite likely in the near future, regardless of Brexit.chestnut said:
Sean T is correct.FrancisUrquhart said:"Leaving the European Union would tip the UK into a year-long recession, with up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
Pick a number, any number, make it a big one, multiple it by 4, then add on a few 1000 for effect of looking as if the result of a complex mathematical model....
Osborne is effectively promising to avoid recession. If we vote Remain and there is a recession (very likely) there will be no forgiveness.
I wonder what excuse George Osborne will come up with if we vote Remain.0 -
"Funnier than a mongoose in a fez" . Well it was good review, but hardly respectful of good, hard-working, mongoose families.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Llama, my fondness for the mongoose is well-known, and exemplified in this review:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2XJO7YFQW987T/
Lets face it, you just use the mongoose as a vehicle for rather clever humourous quips. Fair enough but I am not sure they deserve it.0 -
By my calculations two individuals will lose their jobs, Cameron and Osborne.FrancisUrquhart said:"Leaving the European Union would tip the UK into a year-long recession, with up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
Pick a number, any number, make it a big one, multiple it by 4, then add on a few 1000 for effect of looking as if the result of a complex mathematical model....0 -
Thank you for all your kind words on my blogpost.
@alastairmeeks - thanks for the feedback. My view is that we are being asked to vote on our continued membership of the European Union, which is a clear prospectus, and, therefore, it's appropriate to focus on what that means based upon the body of evidence available to us. Conversely, Leave, depends upon what future UK Governments choose to do; however, I did comment with my view on the likely economic consequences of a Leave in the short, medium and long-term.
I suppose I could have explored in more detail the various potential political outcomes and long-term choices open to the UK, following a Leave vote, and what that might mean, in a future blogpost. That would be for us to decide, of course.0 -
I must admit that I'd bought IDS re-invention of himself but he appears to be perhaps the greatest EU headbanger in the tory party (no small feat) in the sense of throwing fellow Tories either under the bus or trying to with little care as to confidences = all in his quest to Leave.
The same might apply to Cammo re Boris but IDS seems to have a machine gun approach to attacking blue-on-blue.
I'm bored of the whole thing so barely reading 1% of what's going on but his name in relation to attacks on other blues seems all too frequent.
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What is the plural of mongoose? Is it mongeese?HurstLlama said:
"Funnier than a mongoose in a fez" . Well it was good review, but hardly respectful of good, hard-working, mongoose families.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Llama, my fondness for the mongoose is well-known, and exemplified in this review:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2XJO7YFQW987T/
Lets face it, you just use the mongoose as a vehicle for rather clever humourous quips. Fair enough but I am not sure they deserve it.0 -
Mr. Llama, comedy is a great good. It lessens stress, improves mood and enhances health. Utilisation of the mongoose in this area proves the inherent goodness of mongooses.0
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Every time I see IDS on the telly I think 'yup the Tory party was right to ditch him in 2003'Scrapheap_as_was said:I must admit that I'd bought IDS re-invention of himself but he appears to be perhaps the greatest EU headbanger in the tory party (no small feat) in the sense of throwing fellow Tories either under the bus or trying to with little care as to confidences = all in his quest to Leave.
The same might apply to Cammo re Boris but IDS seems to have a machine gun approach to attacking blue-on-blue.
I'm bored of the whole thing so barely reading 1% of what's going on but his name in relation to attacks on other blues seems all too frequent.0 -
Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).0
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Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
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Exactly - after strumming their virtue signalling last month, they've moved on. I bet most can't even recall what petitions they've signed.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes. Into this system that clearly has major failings, some do-gooders want to bring in thousands more children who are currently in France and Italy etc. Their life chances do not look so good when placed in our institutions.DecrepitJohnL said:
And about a quarter of those in prison. This goes some way to explaining -- but most certainly not excusing -- why children in care, often living chaotic lives, were not listened to when they complained of abuse, assault or rape. .... It ought to be a national scandal.Plato_Says said:Jeez - Only 1% of children are in care, but that 1% accounts for half of all those in youth custody.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/home-truths-mhmd5twth0 -
Well we have actual figures of 540000 a year: no 'maybe's', 'mights', 'coulds' 'perhaps', 'possiblies' etc So in 10 years the population of England will have increased by the population of Scotland - and that excludes any Turks coming over.midwinter said:
Leaves policy RE immigration numbers?FrancisUrquhart said:"Leaving the European Union would tip the UK into a year-long recession, with up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
Pick a number, any number, make it a big one, multiple it by 4, then add on a few 1000 for effect of looking as if the result of a complex mathematical model....0 -
Fair to say the scandalous misreporting of the National Insurance numbers haven't been a boost to Leave.0
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That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.0 -
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@dsmitheconomics: Not a very dIfficult choice today. Full-blooded and detailed Treasury analysis versus IDS and ex Downing Street "blue sky" thinker.0
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Not denying immigration is a problem. Just pointing out that Leave are quite capable of massaging figures themselves...weejonnie said:
Well we have actual figures of 540000 a year: no 'maybe's', 'mights', 'coulds' 'perhaps', 'possiblies' etc So in 10 years the population of England will have increased by the population of Scotland - and that excludes any Turks coming over.midwinter said:
Leaves policy RE immigration numbers?FrancisUrquhart said:"Leaving the European Union would tip the UK into a year-long recession, with up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
Pick a number, any number, make it a big one, multiple it by 4, then add on a few 1000 for effect of looking as if the result of a complex mathematical model....0 -
Rod, do we know which regions those votes are from ?RodCrosby said:https://twitter.com/skoblinI/status/734701025920159744
Looks like I was spot on...0 -
@IanDunt: No matter which campaign I was on, I'd bar IDS from doing interviews in support of it.TheScreamingEagles said:Every time I see IDS on the telly I think 'yup the Tory party was right to ditch him in 2003'
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Hah! Would you like me to list all of insults aimed at me and the other Remainers on PB?HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
Traitors and and the very naughty c word than rhymes with runts feature quite heavily in the insults aimed our way.0 -
No idea!JackW said:
Rod, do we know which regions those votes are from ?RodCrosby said:https://twitter.com/skoblinI/status/734701025920159744
Looks like I was spot on...0 -
"With up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
"Up to" includes zero. The advert promising up to 50% off can mean nothing off. And minus numbers are possible.
Error ranges should be used in economic forecasts to make them honest. However the 95% range is unknown, so they should be plus or minus infinity. That Georg Cantor has a lot to answer for.
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And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
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The hatred towards the man who delivered the referendum is not rational. Its religious in its fervour and unattractive.HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
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On a lighter note, a Guardian writer in full logical contortion mode:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/23/women-only-gyms-muirfield-men-male-privilege
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I think we should make Norman French or Latin as the official language of Le Royaume-UniHurstLlama said:
And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
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Mr. Crosby, on those figures, doesn't that mean Hofer loses?0
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@jimwaterson: My mum has bumped into a Boris anti-EU event on her way to the shops. She's decided to try reporting for first time. https://t.co/SSe2JJWuBh0 -
Yep !Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Crosby, on those figures, doesn't that mean Hofer loses?
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Indeed. If they stay like that.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Crosby, on those figures, doesn't that mean Hofer loses?
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That should do a lot for the people's faith in postal votes.RodCrosby said:0 -
And another amusing story:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/23/david-cameron-buys-used-nissan-micra-witney-used-car-centre
I have to say, I'd have thought Sam deserved something a bit better, or at least something with fewer miles on the clock!0 -
No problem - "Up to 25 million more immigrants are expected in the UK over the next 5 years if we remain." - Perfectly correct - and more accurate than "Up to 840,000 jobs could be lost if we leave the EU"midwinter said:
Not denying immigration is a problem. Just pointing out that Leave are quite capable of massaging figures themselves...weejonnie said:
Well we have actual figures of 540000 a year: no 'maybe's', 'mights', 'coulds' 'perhaps', 'possiblies' etc So in 10 years the population of England will have increased by the population of Scotland - and that excludes any Turks coming over.midwinter said:
Leaves policy RE immigration numbers?FrancisUrquhart said:"Leaving the European Union would tip the UK into a year-long recession, with up to 820,000 jobs lost within two years, Chancellor George Osborne says."
Pick a number, any number, make it a big one, multiple it by 4, then add on a few 1000 for effect of looking as if the result of a complex mathematical model....0 -
Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas0
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It depends where the votes are from. If from Vienna or other anti Hofer areas then those numbers are better for him. More info required.Pulpstar said:
Yep !Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Crosby, on those figures, doesn't that mean Hofer loses?
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Rubbish, Mr. MidWinter, unadulterated piffle. I bear no hatred towards Cameron. I wouldn't piss in his ear if his brain were on fire but that has nothing to do with religious fervour but a result of the difference of listening to what the bloke has said over ten years or so and what he has done since he has been PM.midwinter said:
The hatred towards the man who delivered the referendum is not rational. Its religious in its fervour and unattractive.HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
But then I am not a political tribalist, just a bloke who looks at what is going on, what is being said , and makes up his own mind.0 -
My gut instinct is that he'll just miss out.nunu said:Hofer has won this. Simply because the media are saying that the Green guy is ahead slightly. If you look at elections across the world and including in the U.K GE and Scotland the right or centre right has been consistently underestimated. This doesn't mean this has happened again and this is not the traditional left vs. right wing spectrum we are used to but my gut says the postal votes are more for the far right.
Does anyone know are absentee votes in Austria likely to be older voters?
Edit: If the far right win in Austria because the young don't turn out just what would it take for them to turn out?0 -
He said we would have a referendumHurstLlama said:listening to what the bloke has said over ten years or so and what he has done since he has been PM.
We are having a referendum
The bastard...0 -
Oh I see RodCrosby (the prophet) is predicting Green to win in Austria scratch my earlier comments then lol......0
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Actual bananas or metaphorical ones? Can't be sure with Boris these days.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas
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Perhaps because there is considerable overlap between religious beliefs and political beliefs.midwinter said:
The hatred towards the man who delivered the referendum is not rational. Its religious in its fervour and unattractive.HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
If a leader of a religion becomes a heretic, you'd expect a furious reaction.
Incidentally, how is the opprobrium vented on Cameron any different to that vented on Reckless by some on this board?0 -
Anyway, I'm off for a bit. I wonder if the Austrian election result will come in before I return.
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He's talking about bananas, after his last foray was so successful, he's decided to double up and keep on talking about the EU and bananasMaxPB said:
Actual bananas or metaphorical ones? Can't be sure with Boris these days.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas
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There are other issues, Mr. P, you may be fixated by the referendum but I am not.Scott_P said:
He said we would have a referendumHurstLlama said:listening to what the bloke has said over ten years or so and what he has done since he has been PM.
We are having a referendum
The bastard...0 -
Mr. Pot, let me introduce you to Mr. Kettle.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hah! Would you like me to list all of insults aimed at me and the other Remainers on PB?HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
Traitors and and the very naughty c word than rhymes with runts feature quite heavily in the insults aimed our way.0 -
Actual bananas. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry, maybe both!TheScreamingEagles said:
He's talking about bananas, after his last foray was so successful, he's decided to double up and keep on talking about the EU and bananasMaxPB said:
Actual bananas or metaphorical ones? Can't be sure with Boris these days.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas
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Well, you are a great advocate of relentless messaging.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's talking about bananas, after his last foray was so successful, he's decided to double up and keep on talking about the EU and bananasMaxPB said:
Actual bananas or metaphorical ones? Can't be sure with Boris these days.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas
After the weekend main course of Turkey, Leave have started on the fruit basket of bananas.0 -
On the Treasury report, I think the 'Shock' scenario looks pretty realistic as a central forecast. The 'Severe shock' scenario is what I would regard at the worst case - possible, but less than a 10% chance of it being as bad as that.0
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I'm sure tory pbers watching the Daily Politics are cheering on David Lammy against Liam Fox.0
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I'm an advocate of messaging that actually works.VapidBilge said:
Well, you are a great advocate of relentless messaging.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's talking about bananas, after his last foray was so successful, he's decided to double up and keep on talking about the EU and bananasMaxPB said:
Actual bananas or metaphorical ones? Can't be sure with Boris these days.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh Gawd, Boris is still going bananas
After the weekend main course of Turkey, Leave have started on the fruit basket of bananas.
With Turkey yesterday, and this today, I'm wondering if Leave are on a core vote strategy. Ominous0 -
Corbyn, the gift that keeps on giving for the Tories
Footage has emerged of Jeremy Corbyn applauding the leader of the Communist Party of Britain for refusing to toast the Queen
http://order-order.com/2016/05/23/corbyn-clapped-commie-leader-for-refusing-to-toast-the-queen/0 -
What? I have no idea what the "Le Royaume-Uni" is, but if you think I am going to speak French, even Norman-French, except to my cat (French is of course the natural language of moggies), then you can F**k right off.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think we should make Norman French or Latin as the official language of Le Royaume-UniHurstLlama said:
And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
As for Latin nobody even knows how to pronounce it. When I was at school "C"s were soft nowadays I am told that was wrong and C should be pronounced hard, as a "K". Esperanto might be a better bet.0 -
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He said there would be substantial reform negotiated before the referendum - er...Scott_P said:
He said we would have a referendumHurstLlama said:listening to what the bloke has said over ten years or so and what he has done since he has been PM.
We are having a referendum
The bastard...
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Le Royaume-Uni is the French for the United Kingdom. French is a great language, especially swearing in, as someone once put it, it's like wiping your arse with silk.HurstLlama said:
What? I have no idea what the "Le Royaume-Uni" is, but if you think I am going to speak French, even Norman-French, except to my cat (French is of course the natural language of moggies), then you can F**k right off.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think we should make Norman French or Latin as the official language of Le Royaume-UniHurstLlama said:
And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
As for Latin nobody even knows how to pronounce it. When I was at school "C"s were soft nowadays I am told that was wrong and C should be pronounced hard, as a "K". Esperanto might be a better bet.
Norman French is still used in Parliament
Norman French is a language used in Parliament in some of the formal exchanges between the two Houses during a Bill's passage through Parliament. It is also used at Royal Assent. This is because these procedures have barely changed since they began, hundreds of years ago, at a time when Norman French was the official language of Government.
http://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/norman-french/0 -
This is very amusing archeology
George is just so...
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/7346940585521315840 -
Apparently she fancied something lightweight, easily steered and that wouldn't keep going for more than a couple of years. (As far as the car goes, she was looking for a blue one).Richard_Nabavi said:And another amusing story:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/23/david-cameron-buys-used-nissan-micra-witney-used-car-centre
I have to say, I'd have thought Sam deserved something a bit better, or at least something with fewer miles on the clock!0 -
This referendum is developing into a fact-free spat something like the nutrition debate on being fat-free. Association and correlation mixed up, anecdote and Micky Mouse economics, and the less the knowledge the more the assertion.
Fats are neither good nor bad as a whole. Some fats are better than others. Yet everyone joins in. The Luvvies love a weird diet and coconut fat is the latest. Why would you believe a celebrity who next week will be supporting colonic irrigation?
I'd put Osborne in the same category. He may know a lot about hanging wallpaper but it says little for his knowledge of economics (not essential anyway), or more importantly his judgement on who to believe. If indeed, he believes anything.
He wants to win the referendum - he doesn't care how.
Celebrities at least believe that sticking a pipe up your anus is a good way to go.
And the Leave campaign are fighting fire with fire.
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Neues Ergebnis-Update nach 339.901 ausgezählten Wahlkarten
So steht es derzeit bei den Wahlkarten (Auszählungsstand 13.38 Uhr):
Van der Bellen: 60,4%
Hofer: 39,6%
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Vienna is all in... apparently.0
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The EU referendum is Cameron's Iraq war.
He may win but it will be his ruination.
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I think I'm on the wrong side of the bet, but this is arse clenchingly tight for the result.0
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You must have forgotten to post that during the general election campaign ....Plato_Says said:This is very amusing archeology
George is just so...
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/734694058552131584
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If it is a Nissan, it will keep going ... what about Dave?Polruan said:
Apparently she fancied something lightweight, easily steered and that wouldn't keep going for more than a couple of years. (As far as the car goes, she was looking for a blue one).Richard_Nabavi said:And another amusing story:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/23/david-cameron-buys-used-nissan-micra-witney-used-car-centre
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This means nothing to mePulpstar said:Vienna is all in... apparently.
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Hofer pulling it back a bit.
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skoblin @skoblinI · 1m1 minute ago
330,000 postal ballots counted so far - Van Bellen 60.4% Hofer 39.6% #Austria #Hofer #Election #vdb
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Dunno. I remember Liverpool winning it there under King Kenny, but presumably Chelsea have done it there more recently.blackburn63 said:
A good year for football trivia.dr_spyn said:
When was the last time the league was won at Stamford Bridge?
Which manager was sacked immediately after winning the FA Cup?
Tommy Docherty was sacked soon after winning the FA Cup. Guus Hiddink won the FA Cup and left shortly afterwards, but was not sacked.0 -
OutstandingTheScreamingEagles said:
This means nothing to mePulpstar said:Vienna is all in... apparently.
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Just received notification about my postal vote in the referendum.
The letter says inter alia "You will not be able to vote at a polling station".
I think someone was asking about that a day or two ago.
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Second! Like Ultravox.TheScreamingEagles said:
This means nothing to mePulpstar said:Vienna is all in... apparently.
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Depends on how may valid PVs there are...TheWhiteRabbit said:skoblin @skoblinI · 1m1 minute ago
330,000 postal ballots counted so far - Van Bellen 60.4% Hofer 39.6% #Austria #Hofer #Election #vdb
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Rather crappy advice actually.. doesn't even mention what these products are or how to use them.Plato_Says said:This is very amusing archeology
George is just so...
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/734694058552131584
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It would be very interesting if the EU referendum vote ended up like this.RodCrosby said:Hofer pulling it back a bit.
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JC goes up in my estimation yet again.TheScreamingEagles said:Corbyn, the gift that keeps on giving for the Tories
Footage has emerged of Jeremy Corbyn applauding the leader of the Communist Party of Britain for refusing to toast the Queen
http://order-order.com/2016/05/23/corbyn-clapped-commie-leader-for-refusing-to-toast-the-queen/0 -
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it means Hofer could still get that atleast 41.8% needed to win. Vienna must be hugely for green guy.TheScreamingEagles said:
This means nothing to mePulpstar said:Vienna is all in... apparently.
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Just like Cameron, in fact.Plato_Says said:This is very amusing archeology
George is just so...
https://twitter.com/PlatoSays/status/7346940585521315840 -
I would riot if remain won like this.Casino_Royale said:
It would be very interesting if the EU referendum vote ended up like this.RodCrosby said:Hofer pulling it back a bit.
Will go to the wire...0 -
Just in case anyone thought the US election wasn't loopy enough.
'Yoko Ono: “I Had an Affair with Hillary Clinton in the ’70s”'
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Following you off-topic (and thus missing the point) but haven't they just found salt might be harmless after all?CD13 said:
This referendum is developing into a fact-free spat something like the nutrition debate on being fat-free. Association and correlation mixed up, anecdote and Micky Mouse economics, and the less the knowledge the more the assertion.
Fats are neither good nor bad as a whole. Some fats are better than others. Yet everyone joins in. The Luvvies love a weird diet and coconut fat is the latest. Why would you believe a celebrity who next week will be supporting colonic irrigation?
I'd put Osborne in the same category. He may know a lot about hanging wallpaper but it says little for his knowledge of economics (not essential anyway), or more importantly his judgement on who to believe. If indeed, he believes anything.
He wants to win the referendum - he doesn't care how.
Celebrities at least believe that sticking a pipe up your anus is a good way to go.
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Yes Plato was quite happy to go out on the streets of East Sussex peddling those lies on behalf of the Conservative Party .JackW said:
You must have forgotten to post that during the general election campaign ....Plato_Says said:This is very amusing archeology
George is just so...
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According to the Austrian "expert" Van der Bellen desperately needs more than 60.5%. Stay tuned. It is incredibly exciting.
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So you want us not only to turn the clock back 600 years or so, to the time when the aristocracy spoke one language and the plebs another, but to regress further and force everyone to speak a foreign language - not even William the Bastard was that mad.TheScreamingEagles said:
Le Royaume-Uni is the French for the United Kingdom. French is a great language, especially swearing in, as someone once put it, it's like wiping your arse with silk.HurstLlama said:
What? I have no idea what the "Le Royaume-Uni" is, but if you think I am going to speak French, even Norman-French, except to my cat (French is of course the natural language of moggies), then you can F**k right off.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think we should make Norman French or Latin as the official language of Le Royaume-UniHurstLlama said:
And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
As for Latin nobody even knows how to pronounce it. When I was at school "C"s were soft nowadays I am told that was wrong and C should be pronounced hard, as a "K". Esperanto might be a better bet.
Norman French is still used in Parliament
Norman French is a language used in Parliament in some of the formal exchanges between the two Houses during a Bill's passage through Parliament. It is also used at Royal Assent. This is because these procedures have barely changed since they began, hundreds of years ago, at a time when Norman French was the official language of Government.
http://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/norman-french/
Edward III, made English the official language of England, that a bunch of ponces in the back corridors of Parliament haven't quite caught up yet is not an issue. The holy Roman Emperor Charles V is reported to have said "I speak Spanish to God, Italian to Women, French to Men, and German to my Horse." That was a misprint put out by the medieval equivalent of the EU commissioners, what he really said was, "I speak English to everyone, except my cat who likes me to talk to him in French".
P.S. German or Arabic are better for swearing than French, though my God-Daughter tells me that Dutch is better still.0 -
Looking ahead to June 24th there'll be absolute rage regardless of the outcome. If Leave win the Remainers will be apoplectic, set on revenge. If Remain win Leave will be gutted, but Remain will have to eat an awful lot of humble pie to charm back voters they offended.
The political landscape has changed forever, factions have appeared that won't be reconciled.0 -
"People who cut back their salt intake to half the recommended amount per day may be more at risk of having a heart attack or stroke, scientists have warned.DecrepitJohnL said:
Following you off-topic (and thus missing the point) but haven't they just found salt might be harmless after all?CD13 said:
This referendum is developing into a fact-free spat something like the nutrition debate on being fat-free. Association and correlation mixed up, anecdote and Micky Mouse economics, and the less the knowledge the more the assertion.
Fats are neither good nor bad as a whole. Some fats are better than others. Yet everyone joins in. The Luvvies love a weird diet and coconut fat is the latest. Why would you believe a celebrity who next week will be supporting colonic irrigation?
I'd put Osborne in the same category. He may know a lot about hanging wallpaper but it says little for his knowledge of economics (not essential anyway), or more importantly his judgement on who to believe. If indeed, he believes anything.
He wants to win the referendum - he doesn't care how.
Celebrities at least believe that sticking a pipe up your anus is a good way to go.
And the Leave campaign are fighting fire with fire.
Eating less than three grams of salt a day could lead to serious health problems in the future, according to a new study, which found current health recommendations appear to be confined only to those who have high blood pressure."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/21/eating-half-the-recommended-amount-of-salt-per-day-could-increas/
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like Scotland....but Scotland is worse.blackburn63 said:Looking ahead to June 24th there'll be absolute rage regardless of the outcome. If Leave win the Remainers will be apoplectic, set on revenge. If Remain win Leave will be gutted, but Remain will have to eat an awful lot of humble pie to charm back voters they offended.
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Maybe it's because of you pretending to be on the leave side,brilliant how you said you were for leave while posting non stop pro remain propaganda.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hah! Would you like me to list all of insults aimed at me and the other Remainers on PB?HurstLlama said:
That may be true, Mr. Eagles, but I suggest to you that most people who favour leaving the EU are perfectly rational, have looked at the facts and made their decision accordingly.TheScreamingEagles said:
They aren't rational. Some of the Tory Leavers are worse than the Corbynites or ISIS when it comes to fervour and belief they are right and everyone else is wrong, even when you present them with the facts.midwinter said:B
Which part of without Cameron there would be no Tory majority and no referendum is difficult for the haters to understand.TheScreamingEagles said:
Giving us a referendum ?Scott_P said:
Winning?Plato_Says said:Cameron isn't doing what it said on the tin.
If you, and Mr Scott_P, are unable to accept that and feel you have to label people as irrational, headbangers and all the rest of the dreary insults that are regularly trotted out on this site then that is, I am afraid, a reflection of your problems.
Traitors and and the very naughty c word than rhymes with runts feature quite heavily in the insults aimed our way.0 -
When I read about SNP choppers My first thought was 'new revelations about love triangles'Plato_Says said:Oops
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Would be awful if an MP called the cops on another party and then landed his own party in it. https://t.co/gSFf9TBecS0 -
Dear old Guido is flinging an awful lot of chaff around on election expenses and it is hard not to suspect the Conservative defence on Battlebusgate will be "it's a fair cop, guv, but everyone's at it".Scott_P said:@GuidoFawkes: Two new SNP MPs would have bust their spending limits if they'd declared the helicopter according to the rules: https://t.co/5bRKHVeCS2
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Makes you wonder why Crick only focussed on the Tories.Plato_Says said:Oops
Alex Wickham
Would be awful if an MP called the cops on another party and then landed his own party in it. https://t.co/gSFf9TBecS0 -
The downside of campaigning for Remain is that it has turned me into a Francophile until the 23rd of June.HurstLlama said:
So you want us not only to turn the clock back 600 years or so, to the time when the aristocracy spoke one language and the plebs another, but to regress further and force everyone to speak a foreign language - not even William the Bastard was that mad.TheScreamingEagles said:
Le Royaume-Uni is the French for the United Kingdom. French is a great language, especially swearing in, as someone once put it, it's like wiping your arse with silk.HurstLlama said:
What? I have no idea what the "Le Royaume-Uni" is, but if you think I am going to speak French, even Norman-French, except to my cat (French is of course the natural language of moggies), then you can F**k right off.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think we should make Norman French or Latin as the official language of Le Royaume-UniHurstLlama said:
And since when has the English language been consistent?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well that's just inconsistent.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, mongooses (unlike goose to geese).
As for Latin nobody even knows how to pronounce it. When I was at school "C"s were soft nowadays I am told that was wrong and C should be pronounced hard, as a "K". Esperanto might be a better bet.
Norman French is still used in Parliament
Norman French is a language used in Parliament in some of the formal exchanges between the two Houses during a Bill's passage through Parliament. It is also used at Royal Assent. This is because these procedures have barely changed since they began, hundreds of years ago, at a time when Norman French was the official language of Government.
http://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/norman-french/
Edward III, made English the official language of England, that a bunch of ponces in the back corridors of Parliament haven't quite caught up yet is not an issue. The holy Roman Emperor Charles V is reported to have said "I speak Spanish to God, Italian to Women, French to Men, and German to my Horse." That was a misprint put out by the medieval equivalent of the EU commissioners, what he really said was, "I speak English to everyone, except my cat who likes me to talk to him in French".
P.S. German or Arabic are better for swearing than French, though my God-Daughter tells me that Dutch is better still.
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The Conservative defence is that it was national spend.DecrepitJohnL said:
Dear old Guido is flinging an awful lot of chaff around on election expenses and it is hard not to suspect the Conservative defence on Battlebusgate will be "it's a fair cop, guv, but everyone's at it".Scott_P said:@GuidoFawkes: Two new SNP MPs would have bust their spending limits if they'd declared the helicopter according to the rules: https://t.co/5bRKHVeCS2
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No, I can't find a live ticker anywhere. Several people have linked to screenshots and a news page giving regular updates but it is annoying there is no live ticker.nunu said:
any links to live results. Thanx.Pulpstar said:According to the Austrian "expert" Van der Bellen desperately needs more than 60.5%. Stay tuned. It is incredibly exciting.
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