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A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=00 -
We could have a whole thread on who needs be among the first against the wall when you become dictator. The George Carlin youtube skit on people who need to be killed is a good start and very very funny.
Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?0 -
Jesus I thought you were joking with the tip list.Pulpstar said:
A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=00 -
Oh, and I forgot: twenty lashes for people who stand on the platform in the way when you're trying to get off a tube or train.0
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I'm confident of the next season - after a bad start we'll struggle until December, sack Sam Allardyce hire another manager and survive on the last or penultimate day of the season.TheScreamingEagles said:
For the first time in years, I'm actually feeling quiet confident about next season.Mortimer said:
I should charge for those comments of mine which tee up your slam dunks.TheScreamingEagles said:
I suppose. Plus nobody wants to work in Jürgen Klopp's shadow.Mortimer said:
Look into his history. He basically IS AFCB.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an Everton fan. The new Everton shareholder has money that does make Everton a bit more attractive.Mortimer said:
No way he leaves Bournemouth.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've heard rumours that they might go for Eddie Howe.Pulpstar said:
Van de Van de Boer de Ajax man incoming I assume.TheScreamingEagles said:Everton sack Roberto Martinez
Upgraded stadium, Klopp's stellar quality, hopefully champions league football and FSG supporting Klopp in the transfer market, I can feel it in my waters.
After all - it's worked for the last 4 years.0 -
Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/7307535726866800640 -
Yes, that too. And people taking pictures of everything instead of actually bloody well looking at the place they've got to and enjoying being there. People eating on the tube: a disgusting habit. Those stupid ballerina-style shoes some women (usually those with fat legs) insist on wearing and which makes them look as if they've gone out in their slippers. Oh - and those daft men's suits (skinny ones where the jacket doesn't fit and the man looks like a Victorian bank clerk wearing a suit that is too small) and trousers which are too short. Honestly, it ought to be made compulsory for people to look in a mirror before they leave the house, a rear view one in some people's cases.taffys said:
Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?Cyclefree said:Speaking as a pure amateur on this topic, the trouble with any pensions system is three-fold:-
1. It's long-term. People are not encouraged to think of the future. Everything is "now, now, now".
2. Politicians will insist on meddling and changing the rules all the time. Most unfair. Punishes the sensible. Encourages cynicism and disincentivises long-term behaviour.
3. People hugely underestimate how much they should be saving at every stage of their lives, even where they have money to save.
No idea how to change this. The whole economy sometimes seems to be based around people spending money on tat rather than saving sensibly and only buying stuff they need and good stuff at that. Never mind the government: a period of sober austerity by people would be welcome IMO. They could spend a bit more money properly looking after their homes (a walk round many London streets will show the most awful neglect outside with some big F*** Off telly inside) and less on buying rags from Primark.
And since I'm in a Victor Meldrew-ish mood, people really should take a bit of care over their front gardens. Greening and tidying them up a bit would do wonders for the environment and the rest of us wouldn't have to stare at eyesores.
When I am Dictatoresse people will be expected to dress nicely in public ..... and not do their toilette on the tube, either.
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Excellent post.Patrick said:Well said Cyclefree. The problem is that to encourage saving and a responsible attitude to providing for one's future requires the government to ensure savers get some return. Today they don't. Pensions and annuities are woeful because there is no return. There is no return because we are woefully overborrowed and can't let interest rates rise. It is moral hazard. To avoid systemic collapse we must protect the profligate and punish the thrifty. The whole basis of our economic model has been traduced. It won't end well.
Imagine the ECB's negative interest rate policy. It isn't just discouraging sensible behaviour, it is destroying it.
And the profligacy it is rewarding is coming home to roost. Banks are blowing money on all sorts of dodgy loans because keeping money on deposit is kryptonite.
At least one huge european bank is struggling, if its latest bond issues are anything to go by.
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I'm hoping to colour your entries green ^^;TheWhiteRabbit said:
Jesus I thought you were joking with the tip list.Pulpstar said:
A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=0
Or it could get ... expensive
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Good for her!Sunil_Prasannan said:
Mum won Redbridge in Bloom last year for her front gardenCyclefree said:And since I'm in a Victor Meldrew-ish mood, people really should take a bit of care over their front gardens. Greening and tidying them up a bit would do wonders for the environment and the rest of us wouldn't have to stare at eyesores.
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(I chipped in with some watering...occasionally
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If you can add neck level razor wire that pops up to decapitate speeding cyclists running red lights, you've got my vote.Cyclefree said:
Yes, that too. And people taking pictures of everything instead of actually bloody well looking at the place they've got to and enjoying being there. People eating on the tube: a disgusting habit. Those stupid ballerina-style shoes some women (usually those with fat legs) insist on wearing and which makes them look as if they've gone out in their slippers. Oh - and those daft men's suits (skinny ones where the jacket doesn't fit and the man looks like a Victorian bank clerk wearing a suit that is too small) and trousers which are too short. Honestly, it ought to be made compulsory for people to look in a mirror before they leave the house, a rear view one in some people's cases.taffys said:
Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?Cyclefree said:Speaking as a pure amateur on this topic, the trouble with any pensions system is three-fold:-
1. It's long-term. People are not encouraged to think of the future. Everything is "now, now, now".
2. Politicians will insist on meddling and changing the rules all the time. Most unfair. Punishes the sensible. Encourages cynicism and disincentivises long-term behaviour.
3. People hugely underestimate how much they should be saving at every stage of their lives, even where they have money to save.
No idea how to change this. The whole economy sometimes seems to be based around people spending money on tat rather than saving sensibly and only buying stuff they need and good stuff at that. Never mind the government: a period of sober austerity by people would be welcome IMO. They could spend a bit more money properly looking after their homes (a walk round many London streets will show the most awful neglect outside with some big F*** Off telly inside) and less on buying rags from Primark.
And since I'm in a Victor Meldrew-ish mood, people really should take a bit of care over their front gardens. Greening and tidying them up a bit would do wonders for the environment and the rest of us wouldn't have to stare at eyesores.
When I am Dictatoresse people will be expected to dress nicely in public ..... and not do their toilette on the tube, either.0 -
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?0 -
Capital punishment for wilful littering too.Richard_Nabavi said:
And I'd like to put in a request for banning of tattoos on women, the banning of piercings on everyone, and a mandatory death-sentence for cyclists who jump lights when pedestrians are crossing.taffys said:Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?
Now, for Generalissima Cyclefree's second week...0 -
I see Mr Meeks is the only winning tipster on that sheet, with a nice 10/1 winner.Pulpstar said:
A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=00 -
So farTheScreamingEagles said:
I see Mr Meeks is the only winning tipster on that sheet, with a nice 10/1 winner.Pulpstar said:
A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=0 0 -
Who knew there were some many of Lefty feminist islamophobes out there.TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?0 -
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.0 -
I think that's 392 who put Britain First gave their second preference to WEP...TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?0 -
At a public meeting I said I would ban umbrellas, nobody ever died of rain but every year thousands are pushed in front of buses or have their eyes gouged out as people put umbrellas up.Casino_Royale said:
Capital punishment for wilful littering too.Richard_Nabavi said:
And I'd like to put in a request for banning of tattoos on women, the banning of piercings on everyone, and a mandatory death-sentence for cyclists who jump lights when pedestrians are crossing.taffys said:Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?
Now, for Generalissima Cyclefree's second week...0 -
Round 1 of Scottish Parliament Presiding Officer election
MacIntosh 58
Fraser 23
Lamont 23
Scott 17
Smith 7
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Surprisingly, the BBC talking about their favourite subject, the BBC.
I see Maria Eagle is just as charmless as her sister.
I'm tuning out of the EU referendum now because it's becoming so tedious but I do think Labour are getting away with far less scrutiny than they should. Alan Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are virtually invisible and this referendum is going to depend on the "lazy" Labour vote turning out.
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Looking at the Eurovision markets France at 9/1 might be worth backing, probably £20 max.
I don't expect Le Royaume-Uni to get a please don't go Brexit boost, so laying us should be profitable.
Tonight's the second semi final, if Belarus make it to the final, their odds of 930/1 on Betfair should tumble.0 -
Even just a breath of Brexit will cause holes to open up overnight in our streets.
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The problem is that there are only two ways out of a debt crisis.taffys said:
Excellent post.Patrick said:Well said Cyclefree. The problem is that to encourage saving and a responsible attitude to providing for one's future requires the government to ensure savers get some return. Today they don't. Pensions and annuities are woeful because there is no return. There is no return because we are woefully overborrowed and can't let interest rates rise. It is moral hazard. To avoid systemic collapse we must protect the profligate and punish the thrifty. The whole basis of our economic model has been traduced. It won't end well.
Imagine the ECB's negative interest rate policy. It isn't just discouraging sensible behaviour, it is destroying it.
And the profligacy it is rewarding is coming home to roost. Banks are blowing money on all sorts of dodgy loans because keeping money on deposit is kryptonite.
At least one huge european bank is struggling, if its latest bond issues are anything to go by.
One is inflation - we allow the real value of money to depreciate so that the nominal incomes of debtors rise and they are more easily able to service their debts.
The other is default - debtors are made bankrupt and creditors are forced to write off their money.
In recent history inflation has been the preferred option - the UK's national debt reduced markedly between 1945 and 1980 largely because nominal GDP rose by about 7% per year, most of which was due to inflation.
But it is politically impossible to advocate either inflation or default. So we stagger on with QE (itself a form of inflation) which just kicks the can down the road.
What we need now is a rerun of the inflation of the 1970s, but somehow I can't see anyone in politics adopting that as a policy anytime soon!
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Blimey, who knew so many feminists were in tune with the far right.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.0 -
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.0 -
Did the ballot design allow for that ?TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.0 -
Any pension fund shortfall is firstly the responsibility of the Pension Fund Trustees to resolve.
With such low interest rates on government bonds, many pension funds have big shortfalls that may disappear once interest rates revert to normal. However, trustees can not assume that the company will continue in existence until the shortfall is closed by a rise in interest rates. So what should they do?
Requiring a company to fill the pension fund gap from current resources is likely to bankrupt most companies in that position - which does not help the pensioners. What Lloyds Bank trustees have done is to take security on some of the company's assets. So in the event that the company goes bust before the pension fund shorfall is closed over time, then the pension fund can call on the security ahead of other creditors.
The Lloyds Bank arrangement avoids bankrupting the company by claiming immediate payments to meet the shortfall but provides assurance that the shortfall could be closed if the company were to go bust before the long term arrangement to make good the shortfall is completed.
This is what the BHS pension fund trustees should have done.0 -
Wasn't it "put an X in the left column and an x in the right"?Pulpstar said:
Did the ballot design allow for that ?TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
http://beta.getoutandvote.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/howtovote.jpg0 -
That is a very sensible solution.David_Evershed said:Any pension fund shortfall is firstly the responsibility of the Pension Fund Trustees to resolve.
With such low interest rates on government bonds, many pension funds have big shortfalls that may disappear once interest rates revert to normal. However, trustees can not assume that the company will continue in existence until the shortfall is closed by a rise in interest rates. So what should they do?
Requiring a company to fill the pension fund gap from current resources is likely to bankrupt most companies in that position - which does not help the pensioners. What Lloyds Bank trustees have done is to take security on some of the company's assets. So in the event that the company goes bust before the pension fund shorfall is closed over time, then the pension fund can call on the security ahead of other creditors.
The Lloyds Bank arrangement avoids bankrupting the company by claiming immediate payments to meet the shortfall but provides assurance that the shortfall could be closed if the company were to go bust before the long term arrangement to make good the shortfall is completed.
This is what the BHS pension fund trustees should have done.
That would indeed guarantee all pensions are paid in full. This was a proposal touted by the European pensions regulator, which it has only backtracked on in the last month. That would, however, require British industry to inject something like £250 billion into their pension schemes straight away (for comparison purposes, that’s more than three times the British government’s annual deficit).
How many big companies would have sufficient assets for that though ?0 -
TheWhiteRabbit said:
Wasn't it "put an X in the left column and an x in the right"?Pulpstar said:
Did the ballot design allow for that ?TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
http://beta.getoutandvote.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/howtovote.jpg
You can easily imagine some* people putting the same entry in both columns to emphasise their vote.
* The tiny few who don't understand AV.
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You want a pension fund to be a fixed charge holder?Pulpstar said:
That is a very sensible solution.David_Evershed said:Any pension fund shortfall is firstly the responsibility of the Pension Fund Trustees to resolve.
With such low interest rates on government bonds, many pension funds have big shortfalls that may disappear once interest rates revert to normal. However, trustees can not assume that the company will continue in existence until the shortfall is closed by a rise in interest rates. So what should they do?
Requiring a company to fill the pension fund gap from current resources is likely to bankrupt most companies in that position - which does not help the pensioners. What Lloyds Bank trustees have done is to take security on some of the company's assets. So in the event that the company goes bust before the pension fund shorfall is closed over time, then the pension fund can call on the security ahead of other creditors.
The Lloyds Bank arrangement avoids bankrupting the company by claiming immediate payments to meet the shortfall but provides assurance that the shortfall could be closed if the company were to go bust before the long term arrangement to make good the shortfall is completed.
This is what the BHS pension fund trustees should have done.
That would indeed guarantee all pensions are paid in full. This was a proposal touted by the European pensions regulator, which it has only backtracked on in the last month. That would, however, require British industry to inject something like £250 billion into their pension schemes straight away (for comparison purposes, that’s more than three times the British government’s annual deficit).
How many big companies would have sufficient assets for that though ?0 -
I tip Sunderland to do a Leicester next season and win the League with Sam Allerdyce (pronounced alerdichi) as manager.weejonnie said:
I'm confident of the next season - after a bad start we'll struggle until December, sack Sam Allardyce hire another manager and survive on the last or penultimate day of the season.TheScreamingEagles said:
For the first time in years, I'm actually feeling quiet confident about next season.Mortimer said:
I should charge for those comments of mine which tee up your slam dunks.TheScreamingEagles said:
I suppose. Plus nobody wants to work in Jürgen Klopp's shadow.Mortimer said:
Look into his history. He basically IS AFCB.TheScreamingEagles said:
He's an Everton fan. The new Everton shareholder has money that does make Everton a bit more attractive.Mortimer said:
No way he leaves Bournemouth.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've heard rumours that they might go for Eddie Howe.Pulpstar said:
Van de Van de Boer de Ajax man incoming I assume.TheScreamingEagles said:Everton sack Roberto Martinez
Upgraded stadium, Klopp's stellar quality, hopefully champions league football and FSG supporting Klopp in the transfer market, I can feel it in my waters.
After all - it's worked for the last 4 years.0 -
So, how many Britain First voters gave Khan their second preference?Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.0 -
The DB buy out scheme solution is booming - just look at where Just Retirement has moved in to whilst individual annuity business has fallen back (but not died please note)0
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Compulsory AV re-education from TSE?MarkHopkins said:TheWhiteRabbit said:
Wasn't it "put an X in the left column and an x in the right"?Pulpstar said:
Did the ballot design allow for that ?TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
http://beta.getoutandvote.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/howtovote.jpg
You can easily imagine some* people putting the same entry in both columns to emphasise their vote.
* The tiny few who don't understand AV.0 -
It's why revenge porn has become a crime.SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.0 -
I am sick of this nonsense about how many immigrants stay or not. If they obtain a national insurance number then if they pay national insurance they probably are staying. If they don't then probably they have gone back of course there are a few that obtain a number then work in the black market so maybe add 10% for that. Surely it cannot be that hard to extract the information from the national insurance computer in Newcastle. Or is it bogged down updating to windows 10?0
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I've never had this pleasure.SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
Last time I dated was 2010 (married now) and that was exchanging, at best, suggestive innuendos over Facebook.0 -
What about Solar Plexus, for a "gamechanging" poll?SeanT said:
HahSunil_Prasannan said:Vapid Bilge = Give Bad Lip
I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.0 -
compouter for Basil is probably my favourite one.Casino_Royale said:
What about Solar Plexus, for a "gamechanging" poll?SeanT said:
HahSunil_Prasannan said:Vapid Bilge = Give Bad Lip
I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.0 -
I think we overestimate just how politically logical most people's votes are.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
Just because we're politically consistent it doesn't mean everyone else is.0 -
9 out of 10 - a cracking thinly disguised bragSeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
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What's going on in the fantasy football? You might actually do it.Scrapheap_as_was said:The DB buy out scheme solution is booming - just look at where Just Retirement has moved in to whilst individual annuity business has fallen back (but not died please note)
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FPT @Innocent_Abroad
Is it those times when you hear the voices that want to make socialism illegal?Innocent_Abroad said:
This place often feels like a panel of Tories debating Labour...0 -
Yes. That is what the lloyds Pension Fund Trustees arranged in exchange for the company making good the pension shortfall over a ten year period. The bank is able to maintain a sound capital ratio and continue trading and the pension fund has security in the event it goes bust before making good the shortfall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
You want a pension fund to be a fixed charge holder?Pulpstar said:
That is a very sensible solution.David_Evershed said:Any pension fund shortfall is firstly the responsibility of the Pension Fund Trustees to resolve.
With such low interest rates on government bonds, many pension funds have big shortfalls that may disappear once interest rates revert to normal. However, trustees can not assume that the company will continue in existence until the shortfall is closed by a rise in interest rates. So what should they do?
Requiring a company to fill the pension fund gap from current resources is likely to bankrupt most companies in that position - which does not help the pensioners. What Lloyds Bank trustees have done is to take security on some of the company's assets. So in the event that the company goes bust before the pension fund shorfall is closed over time, then the pension fund can call on the security ahead of other creditors.
The Lloyds Bank arrangement avoids bankrupting the company by claiming immediate payments to meet the shortfall but provides assurance that the shortfall could be closed if the company were to go bust before the long term arrangement to make good the shortfall is completed.
This is what the BHS pension fund trustees should have done.
That would indeed guarantee all pensions are paid in full. This was a proposal touted by the European pensions regulator, which it has only backtracked on in the last month. That would, however, require British industry to inject something like £250 billion into their pension schemes straight away (for comparison purposes, that’s more than three times the British government’s annual deficit).
How many big companies would have sufficient assets for that though ?
Five years ago BHS probably had some retail premises the pension fund trustees could have taken a first charge over as security for non payment of the shortfall. It seems they did not do this.
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Post of the day.JonnyJimmy said:FPT @Innocent_Abroad
Is it those times when you hear the voices that want to make socialism illegal?Innocent_Abroad said:
This place often feels like a panel of Tories debating Labour...0 -
Dunno. I'd say 7/10.Pulpstar said:
9 out of 10 - a cracking thinly disguised bragSeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
Suggests Sean has had a few dicpics as well.0 -
My point here is that the greyed figures are probably not the number of people who didn't give a first preference - they are the number of people who gave the same first and second preference.Casino_Royale said:
I think we overestimate just how politically logical most people's votes are.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
Just because we're politically consistent it doesn't mean everyone else is.
If you're there and you think only one candidate fits the bill, why not put both xes for them if you're even 10% uncertain about how it works.
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Yes, having transcribed the numbers into my own sheet I rather fear that those numbers are x-x ballots, since the row totals don't match the 1st preferences.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
Which allows me to create a stupidity index:
Labour 11.8%
Ind 8.4%
BNP 8.1%
One Love 7.4%
UKIP 7.0%
Conserv 6.7%
Respect 6.1%
CISTA 5.7%
Brit First 5.6%
Lib Dem 3.3%
Green 2.5%
WEP 2.2%
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Tissue_Price said:
Yes, having transcribed the numbers into my own sheet I rather fear that those numbers are x-x ballots, since the row totals don't match the 1st preferences.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
Which allows me to create a stupidity index:
Labour 11.8%
Ind 8.4%
BNP 8.1%
One Love 7.4%
UKIP 7.0%
Conserv 6.7%
Respect 6.1%
CISTA 5.7%
Brit First 5.6%
Lib Dem 3.3%
Green 2.5%
WEP 2.2%
Vote Early. Vote Twice.
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Norwich may be relegated but I'm in no mood to give up the fantasy football #1 slot.TheScreamingEagles said:
What's going on in the fantasy football? You might actually do it.Scrapheap_as_was said:The DB buy out scheme solution is booming - just look at where Just Retirement has moved in to whilst individual annuity business has fallen back (but not died please note)
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If you sent a "naughty" selfie, would that be flacid bilge ?!? ....SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm. 0 -
2741. Inclusive racism.TheScreamingEagles said:So, how many Britain First voters gave Khan their second preference?
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Clearly young people are much more relaxed about dating someone old enough to be their father, too...Pulpstar said:
9 out of 10 - a cracking thinly disguised bragSeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
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Mine would be 'massive bilge' in that situation.JackW said:
If you sent a "naughty" selfie, would that be flacid bilge ?!? ....SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.0 -
No one ever went broke....Tissue_Price said:
2741. Inclusive racism.TheScreamingEagles said:So, how many Britain First voters gave Khan their second preference?
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So many voters in London who are in need of me educating them in electoral voting systems.Tissue_Price said:
Yes, having transcribed the numbers into my own sheet I rather fear that those numbers are x-x ballots, since the row totals don't match the 1st preferences.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There must be >0 people who voted Lab/Lab though.Tissue_Price said:
No - first pref on left (row headers), second pref on top (column headers).TheScreamingEagles said:
Am I reading that right?Tissue_Price said:Interesting breakdown of all 2nd preferences in London - useful for considering tactical voting elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/730753572686680064
392 people who voted for the Women's Equality Party gave their second preference to Britain First?
So it's actually worse: there were 832 WEP-Britain First ballots.
The 392 is a BNP-WEP ballot.
I'm assuming the figs in grey are no 2nd preference, rather than a Lab-Lab ballot.
Which allows me to create a stupidity index:
Labour 11.8%
Ind 8.4%
BNP 8.1%
One Love 7.4%
UKIP 7.0%
Conserv 6.7%
Respect 6.1%
CISTA 5.7%
Brit First 5.6%
Lib Dem 3.3%
Green 2.5%
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What is a meme?SeanT said:
HahSunil_Prasannan said:Vapid Bilge = Give Bad Lip
I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.
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"The Ken Livingstone fan club"Tissue_Price said:
2741. Inclusive racism.TheScreamingEagles said:So, how many Britain First voters gave Khan their second preference?
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But 0.5% is the norm now. Rates have been at that level for 7 years. And the economy is slowing down. There is no likelihood of a rise in the forseeable future.David_Evershed said:Any pension fund shortfall is firstly the responsibility of the Pension Fund Trustees to resolve.
With such low interest rates on government bonds, many pension funds have big shortfalls that may disappear once interest rates revert to normal.0 -
I'm sure there a creams or ointments for that ....Slackbladder said:
Mine would be 'massive bilge' in that situation.JackW said:
If you sent a "naughty" selfie, would that be flacid bilge ?!? ....SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
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They must be like the Nazis for Zionism.Tissue_Price said:
2741. Inclusive racism.TheScreamingEagles said:So, how many Britain First voters gave Khan their second preference?
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People buy tat because everything else is completely out of reach. There is no point in saving if you can't buy a house. There is no point in a pension if you can only manage a pension pot of a few thousand. There was a BBC snippet about a rubbish dump in Japan, littered with last year's sound systems - the commentator thought it showed affluence - but it really showed poverty.0
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The Meme Valley Railway runs westwards from PeterboroughDavid_Evershed said:
What is a meme?SeanT said:
HahSunil_Prasannan said:Vapid Bilge = Give Bad Lip
I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.0 -
Dear Dictatoresse @Cyclefree
Please could you arrange for all teenage girls who publish ‘fish faces’ on Facebook to be slapped with a Wiff-Waff bat with a picture of Emily Pankhurst on it?
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''I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.''
With an avatar of Fiona Bruce presenting antiques roadshow? or anything else for that matter.0 -
Is there a fountain in the Meme Valley which is the font of all knowledge?Sunil_Prasannan said:
The Meme Valley Railway runs westwards from PeterboroughDavid_Evershed said:
What is a meme?SeanT said:
HahSunil_Prasannan said:Vapid Bilge = Give Bad Lip
I think we have a new pb meme. VAPID BILGE.
How long before it gets applied to everything and shortened to VB and newcomers to the site are totally bewildered.0 -
It's all about instant gratification nowadays.SeanT said:
It actually wasn't meant as a brag..... but I can see how it probably comes across as one.Pulpstar said:
9 out of 10 - a cracking thinly disguised bragSeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm.
Or I simply can't help myself. Narcissistic to the end.
On the other hand, the strangely common exchange of erotic photos amongst the young is more interesting than PENSIONS
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And ban 'whoop-whoop'.SimonStClare said:Dear Dictatoresse @Cyclefree
Please could you arrange for all teenage girls who publish ‘fish faces’ on Facebook to be slapped with a Wiff-Waff bat with a picture of Emily Pankhurst on it?
I really don't get the super-pout selfie plague.0 -
Mr W,
"If you sent a "naughty" selfie, would that be flacid bilge ?!?"
In a rather surreal conversation with the daughter of a friend (he was there too), she mentioned the annoyance of having "dick-pics" sent to her.
I couldn't resist asking (very politely) in what state were they? She seemed rather scornful. "Well, there wouldn't be much point sending flaccid ones. would there?"
Obviously romance is dead nowadays.0 -
@paulhutcheon: BREAKING: MSPs elect Ken Macintosh as Holyrood's new Presiding Officer
@HolyroodJenni: Ken Macintosh says he's welcomed two members of catering staff, a BBC journalist and a special branch officer thinking they were new MSPs0 -
Mr. StClare, my Latin is minimal at best, but would it be dictatorix? Dictatora?0
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DictatrixMorris_Dancer said:Mr. StClare, my Latin is minimal at best, but would it be dictatorix? Dictatora?
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What do u guys think of Plaid etc trying to get Woods elected forst minister? Crazy surely?0
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Dave's fits became ever more hissy
As the voters edged to decree nisi
for instead of remaining
the Leavers were gaining
And Dave pants were smelling quite pissy0 -
Careful you'll have #YewTree descending on Chez Jack with that sort of talk!JackW said:
If you sent a "naughty" selfie, would that be flacid bilge ?!? ....SeanT said:In terms of shocking cultural developments - like tattoos and undersized trousers - the one that amazes me is the ease and willingness with which young people will send naughty pictures of themselves, especially young ladies
If you go online and meet someone under 30, within a couple of days - or hours - there's a fair chance they will have sent you a nude shot, or something topless at the very least. And then they send little movies....
Young people are just much much more relaxed about sex and nudity than "we" were. It must be the internet.
Is it a good or a bad thing? Hmm. 0 -
I concur:JonnyJimmy said:
DictatrixMorris_Dancer said:Mr. StClare, my Latin is minimal at best, but would it be dictatorix? Dictatora?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dictatrix0 -
So why's he tweeting about it then?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
"Vabid Bilge" - the mindless garbage that emanates from the PeeBee Burleys that we have to put up with day after day...0
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Frage is hoping to go on TV and face Dave... And destroy LEAVE in the process, thus ensuring his and UKIP's survival and keeping himself wedded to the EU gravy train.
Discuss:0 -
Agreed but what about the hundreds of thousands who are late for important meetings because pavements are clogged up? People sacked to languish on the dole (or whatever IDS has left of it) for the rest of their lives, weddings cancelled etc.blackburn63 said:
At a public meeting I said I would ban umbrellas, nobody ever died of rain but every year thousands are pushed in front of buses or have their eyes gouged out as people put umbrellas up.Casino_Royale said:
Capital punishment for wilful littering too.Richard_Nabavi said:
And I'd like to put in a request for banning of tattoos on women, the banning of piercings on everyone, and a mandatory death-sentence for cyclists who jump lights when pedestrians are crossing.taffys said:Can I suggesy you engage snipers to shoot pedestrians gawping at their mobile phones in central London WHEN THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE WALKING?
Now, for Generalissima Cyclefree's second week...0 -
Mr. Jimmy, argh, should've known that from editor becoming editrix.
Or, for that matter, dominator becoming dominatrix.0 -
"When I am Dictatoresse people will be expected to dress nicely in public ..... and not do their toilette on the tube, either."
Bravo, Mrs Free! For a while there we seemed to be getting into a collective re-write of Ko_ko's song, "I have got a little list" and I agreed with most of the categories put forward of people who would not be missed. Much of it, of course, like Gilbert's original is based around people who do not think of the impact their actions have on others - plus ca change.
Mind you the one category mentioned that I just do not understand is the use of mobile phones to record what is happening in front of us and where we are generally rather than actually enjoying the experience.0 -
Farage v. Cameron works for Farage, works for Cameron and works for ITV.GIN1138 said:Frage is hoping to go on TV and face Dave... And destroy LEAVE in the process, thus ensuring his and UKIP's survival and keeping himself wedded to the EU gravy train.
Discuss:
It doesn't work for Vote Leave.0 -
I was a complete idiot and should have plonked down some saver cash on NOM after I started making constituency bets as if my bets were busts then NOM was nailed on.Pulpstar said:
So farTheScreamingEagles said:
I see Mr Meeks is the only winning tipster on that sheet, with a nice 10/1 winner.Pulpstar said:
A first entry for Eagles in the PB 16-17 tax year TOTY compo.TheScreamingEagles said:Eddie Howe is 33/1 to be the next Everton manager with publicity shy Paddy Power
http://www.paddypower.com/football/football-specials/manager-specials?ev_oc_grp_ids=1233867
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLqxJy9uuaF3LdmQfFLUGxbnD9m0H8hoDyrAGm16aaE/edit#gid=00 -
Vapid, not Vabid!murali_s said:"Vabid Bilge" - the mindless garbage that emanates from the PeeBee Burleys that we have to put up with day after day...
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It occurred to me to post this this morning. He wouldn't be human if he wasn't at least slightly aware that a great result would totally undermine his party's financial base (not to mention reason for existing).GIN1138 said:Frage is hoping to go on TV and face Dave... And destroy LEAVE in the process, thus ensuring his and UKIP's survival and keeping himself wedded to the EU gravy train.
Discuss:
The temptation must be there, not to deliberately throw the debate as such, but to avoid any moderation of tone, in order to play to the gallery. Such as facts about AIDS. Which may be facts, and may even be a valid subject for debate, but don't sit well with wavering voters.0 -
I think the first pair of lines might have rhymed in Chaucer's time but not today...Alanbrooke said:Dave's fits became ever more hissy
As the voters edged to decree nisi
for instead of remaining
the Leavers were gaining
And Dave pants were smelling quite pissy0 -
MY triple captain did not activate, I am raging.TheScreamingEagles said:
What's going on in the fantasy football? You might actually do it.Scrapheap_as_was said:The DB buy out scheme solution is booming - just look at where Just Retirement has moved in to whilst individual annuity business has fallen back (but not died please note)
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Vote Leave doesn't work for Vote Leave. Who knows, keeping them out of this debate may be the best thing for them.Casino_Royale said:
Farage v. Cameron works for Farage, works for Cameron and works for ITV.GIN1138 said:Frage is hoping to go on TV and face Dave... And destroy LEAVE in the process, thus ensuring his and UKIP's survival and keeping himself wedded to the EU gravy train.
Discuss:
It doesn't work for Vote Leave.0 -
Farage was always going to say yes if asked. There's a strong argument that we wouldn't even be having this referendum in the first place, were it not for him.GIN1138 said:Frage is hoping to go on TV and face Dave... And destroy LEAVE in the process, thus ensuring his and UKIP's survival and keeping himself wedded to the EU gravy train.
Discuss:
I don't blame him for accepting the offer from ITV. I just don't think he should have been asked in the first place because he isn't part of the officially designated Leave group.
He'll do okay financially after a "Leave" vote - I'm sure he will be able to make a fortune from public speaking engagements and the like. Maybe he's hoping for a peerage?
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Cameron v. Farage: Rabid Grilldge?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Vapid, not Vabid!murali_s said:"Vabid Bilge" - the mindless garbage that emanates from the PeeBee Burleys that we have to put up with day after day...
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Three interesting facts are known. (Well two and one that made me laugh.)
1. His wife Tina is resident in Monaco
2. He has put all his assets in his wife's name
3. His wife's daughter is called Stasha0
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