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AlastairMeeks said:

The CEP has poured scorn on the Treasury's assessment of the risks of Brexit:

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/BREXIT/abstract.asp?index=5017

"Overly cautious assumptions in the Treasury’s recent report on the long-run consequences for the UK economy of leaving the European Union (EU) mean that it has probably underestimated the economic costs."

This backs up what I said on the day - I don't think they were fearful enough. The real amount (when you adjust for the household income mistake) was £1,480. That's not scary enough to pass muster imo. Luckily for Remain, Vote Leave don't have the ability to capitalise.

@AlastairMeeks

'The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.'

I guess the appeal for Remainers is the one size (classical musicians and Romanian labourers ) fits all .

Just don't know how we coped before joining the EU.

rpjs said:

LondonBob said:

OllyT said:

LondonBob said:

What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.

There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.

New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.

Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/

I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"

Don't confuse LondonBob with a dose of local knowledge. He'll keep us entertained all the way to election day ....

taffys said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

chestnut said:

Remain now claiming that Luvvies will suffer. It was footballers a couple of weeks ago.
The Ashdown/Rose quotes are gold.
Vote Leave for Higher Wages and Cheaper food.
I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of the Labour front bench on why the low paid's wages should be suppressed while their cost of living is inflated for the sake of the EU.

and with 3 million immigrants from REMAIN its

Vote Leave for Higher Wages, Cheaper food, cheaper Housing, Quicker GP appointments, Less crowded Roads, Room on trains, Less Begging, Fewer Prisoners, Less Crime etc etc

As someone said earlier , where is LEAVE's Grid of Announcements?

Where is LEAVE's campaign? Where are the adverts? the posters?

Hit them late and don't shoot your ammunition before you know the target.

VOTE LEAVE KNOW that they are going to be outspent by an additional £8 million in this campaign period (as well as the £9.6 spent by the Government) (funds spent by the tories/ lib dems/ labour compared to UKIP) so they can't afford to splash out.

Mr. Meeks, of course, the best way to help out someone in the creative industries is to buy my their work.

AlastairMeeks said:

The CEP has poured scorn on the Treasury's assessment of the risks of Brexit:

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/BREXIT/abstract.asp?index=5017

"Overly cautious assumptions in the Treasury’s recent report on the long-run consequences for the UK economy of leaving the European Union (EU) mean that it has probably underestimated the economic costs."

https://woodfordfunds.com/economic-impact-brexit-report/

"Based on assessing the evidence, we conclude that:

The more extreme claims made about the costs and benefits of Brexit for the British economy are wide of the mark and lacking in evidential bases
It is plausible that Brexit could have a modest negative impact on growth and job creation. But it is slightly more plausible that the net impacts will be modestly positive. This is a strong conclusion when compared with some studies
There are potential net benefits in the areas of a more tailored immigration policy, the freedom to make trade deals, moderately lower levels of regulation and savings to the public purse. In each of these areas, we do not believe that the benefits of Brexit would be huge, but they are likely to be positive
Meanwhile, costs in terms of financial services, foreign direct investment and impacts on London property markets are more likely to be short-term and there are longer-term opportunities from Brexit even in these areas
It is not likely that any particular region or regions of the country would be more adversely affected by Brexit than the country overall. Likewise, we do find support for the notion that Brexit would benefit some sectors more than others, but the range of outcomes for production / manufacturing industries is probably wider than for services
We continue to think that the United Kingdom’s economic prospects are good whether inside or outside the European Union. Britain has pulled ahead of the European Union in recent years, and we expect that gap to widen over the next few years regardless of whether Brexit occurs."

@AustinHunt: BREAKING: Legendary musician Prince, 57, has died, according to @TMZ https://t.co/kdPnhkltDd https://t.co/QYlIYoUcpB

Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

Scott_P said:

@AustinHunt: BREAKING: Legendary musician Prince, 57, has died, according to @TMZ https://t.co/kdPnhkltDd https://t.co/QYlIYoUcpB

The Grim Reaper must have been put on performance related pay...

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?

I looked at this from the past 3-4 years and I think what it actually is a lot of people of a certain age have been dying shall we say prematurely, while also having become famous in that age when mass tv etc watching came about e.g. I think somebody like Paul Daniels would struggle to have a weekly show with fairly so so tricks getting 10+ million viewers. Even popular comedians / comedy shows don't get the same kind of viewership of like Two Ronnies.

The people dying were also heroes / icons / height of fame when a lot of important media folks were young and involved with these people.

@moses Not quite Anarchy in The Ukulele...(another clip).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCME6ys6IFU

FrancisUrquhart said:

Scott_P said:

@AustinHunt: BREAKING: Legendary musician Prince, 57, has died, according to @TMZ https://t.co/kdPnhkltDd https://t.co/QYlIYoUcpB

The Grim Reaper must have been put on performance related pay...

Yet HM enjoys robust health. Coincidence?

@AlastairMeeks

Kenyon was referring to travel visa requirements for musicians touring the UK, which is not repeat not the same as full time open ended employment with full UK benefits.

But of course you already knew that,but it doesn't suit your narrative.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?

I think you are still alive - but yes a lot are - and the rate will increase as there are more and more famous people (actually celebrities) made such due to the massive increase in television and the cinema from the 1950s onwards.

Moses_ said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?

I looked at this from the past 3-4 years and I think what it actually is a lot of people of a certain age have been dying shall we say prematurely, while also having become famous in that age when mass tv etc watching came about e.g. I think somebody like Paul Daniels would struggle to have a weekly show with fairly so so tricks getting 10+ million viewers. Even popular comedians / comedy shows don't get the same kind of viewership of like Two Ronnies.

Sex drugs n'rock and roll finally catches up with them.

Or pickles them for eternity....Mick Jagger....Ozzy Osborne....

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.

This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.

Respect and trust the people.

They might surprise you.

There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.

Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.

Then a points based system won't be a problem.

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.

This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.

Respect and trust the people.

They might surprise you.

There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.

Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.

We are compelled to have open borders to the EU, and not just for work, whilst we impose global restrictions to compensate just to keep numbers sustainable.

Neither make sense IMHO, and a clear majority of the public disagree with you.

Did somebody say Prince had died? ;-)

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Prince has died according to Sky News.

And only 57 too.

RIP

Some brilliant tracks: 1999, When Doves Cry, Kiss, Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Manic Monday to name just a few.

Luckyguy1983 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.

This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.

Respect and trust the people.

They might surprise you.

There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.

Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.

Then a points based system won't be a problem.

So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.

LondonBob said:

rpjs said:

LondonBob said:

OllyT said:

LondonBob said:

What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.

There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.

New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.

Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/

I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"

I have always preferred, obviously biased, anecdotal evidence over good solid polling.

Any other gems you want to share?

You mean the "good solid polling" showing Trump being drubbed in New York ?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_trump_vs_clinton-5792.html

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Prince has died according to Sky News.

And only 57 too.

RIP

Some brilliant tracks: 1999, When Doves Cry, Kiss, Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Manic Monday to name just a few.

Apparently Manic Monday uses the same melody as 1999. Prince offered the song to the Bangles under a pseudonym "Christopher".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Monday

AndyJS said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

AndyJS said:

Prince has died according to Sky News.

And only 57 too.

RIP

Some brilliant tracks: 1999, When Doves Cry, Kiss, Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Manic Monday to name just a few.

Never mind the known back catalogue, Prince was famously Stakhanovite in his work ethic and a poor judge of his own material (he never again played "Kiss" the same way as he did on the single because he didn't like it). There is apparently decades' worth of music stored in a vault:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/19/i-would-hide-4-u-whats-in-princes-secret-vault

FrancisUrquhart said:

Casino_Royale said:

Guy Hamilton is a goner too. RIP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36101644

At 93, I will go out on a limb and say slightly less unexpected.

Oi, show some respect: he was a legend.

AlastairMeeks said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.

This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.

Respect and trust the people.

They might surprise you.

There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.

Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.

Then a points based system won't be a problem.

So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.

You'd keep a system that has no future guarantee that migrants will have the skills the economy lacks even though you imply introducing a more stringent one would cause no hardship to the majority of current applicants?

Luckyguy1983 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.

Just like in Australia and Canada.

I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.

This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.

Respect and trust the people.

They might surprise you.

There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.

Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.

Then a points based system won't be a problem.

So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.

You'd keep a system that has no future guarantee that migrants will have the skills the economy lacks even though you imply introducing a more stringent one would cause no hardship to the majority of current applicants?

Where a system works, don't change it until it doesn't work.

The change you propose will deter some who we would want to attract from applying and will send a signal to others who we would want to attract that Britain is becoming less open (thus making Britain a less attractive destination). There is no reason to assume that it would improve the quality of applicants and it might well do the exact opposite.

chestnut said:

taffys said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

chestnut said:

Remain now claiming that Luvvies will suffer. It was footballers a couple of weeks ago.
The Ashdown/Rose quotes are gold.
Vote Leave for Higher Wages and Cheaper food.
I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of the Labour front bench on why the low paid's wages should be suppressed while their cost of living is inflated for the sake of the EU.

and with 3 million immigrants from REMAIN its

Vote Leave for Higher Wages, Cheaper food, cheaper Housing, Quicker GP appointments, Less crowded Roads, Room on trains, Less Begging, Fewer Prisoners, Less Crime etc etc

As someone said earlier , where is LEAVE's Grid of Announcements?

Where is LEAVE's campaign? Where are the adverts? the posters?

They are targeting through social media from things I've heard, and I've received more from them than Remain in the mail.

Where do you live?

For Rod
http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/21/got-the-evening-free-why-not-watch-the-titanic-sink-in-real-time-5832400/

@Sunil

It's awfully kind of you to invite me to accompany you to the USA and tour your favourite gay pleasure grounds. However I must demure and REMAIN in the UK and LEAVE you to your frolicsome pleasures alone.

LondonBob said:

OllyT said:

LondonBob said:

What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.

There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.

New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.

Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/

HRC v Trump NY:- Hilary 19% ahead in latest RCP poll - New York Post is whistling to keep its spirits up. It is far more likely that 2012 GOP will become competitive if its Clinton v Trump.

Moses_ said:

Oh FFS
Evening standard tonight
Barbican Chief - Brexit could damage capitals arts scene.

Getting sick of this. Every day another "the worlds gonna end" if you do it. Remains campaign is just ridiculous now.

It's a Democracy, people can express their opinions, what's the problem?

Channel 4 news are apparently doing a special on the Tories election funding though Labour have declined to send anyone on to discuss it.

Prince leading Channel 4 News.

On topic.

As things go Khan might win on first preferences in London.

Off topic.

I'm shocked that Prince has died, and at that young age, and from the flu.

Just got an email from David Owen asking for my donations. Vote Leave are being massively outspent by Remain apparently.

Please give what you can. Every tenner helps.

New CALIFORNIA poll:

Trump 41
Cruz 23
Kasich 15

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-california-primary-poll-222277

It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania.
Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.

FrancisUrquhart said:

UK's regional foods could lose protection after Brexit, Cameron says

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/21/brexit-eu-referendum-uk-regional-food-protection-david-cameron

No more Cornish Pasties, Melton Mowbray pork pies...

Time for a Pasty Tax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgn6mttT0og

Speedy said:

New CALIFORNIA poll:

Trump 41
Cruz 23
Kasich 15

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-california-primary-poll-222277

It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania.
Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.

Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?

CH4 push on this is kinda of debatable. They are trying to assign a direct cost of having volunteers who move from place to place to particular constituency, but the value of which is hard to put a figure on, because they travel all over the place and often stay in hotels in yet a different constituency.

It is clearly a fudge that the Tories (and I bet all the other parties use) to get around local spending limits. CH4 are also trying to argue national vs local, again, travelling around the country seems "national", but when they turn up they also support the "local" candidate.

I seemed to remember the by-election where they used a similar tactic, they stayed outside of the constituency.

RobD said:

Speedy said:

New CALIFORNIA poll:

Trump 41
Cruz 23
Kasich 15

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-california-primary-poll-222277

It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania.
Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.

Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?

The station?

nigel4england said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

AlastairMeeks said:

john_zims said:

@AlastairMeeks

'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'


Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?

The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.

I went to Germany and Austria before 1973 without a Visa and in 1978 to Sweden without a Visa before they joined the EU even though we had......

I went to the World Cup Final in Munich in 1974, didn't need a visa either...

I was taken to West Germany in 1949 without a visa.

chestnut said:

They are targeting through social media from things I've heard, and I've received more from them than Remain in the mail.

Had nothing in Holloway from either side as yet (bar a reversible Khan/In poster). My block of flats has had two Khan leaflets and I received a personal postal vote reminder today; the LibDems and Greens have delivered a leaflet each too. Nothing from Goldsmith so far.

The Standard has a big piece by their political editor pushing the Islamic stuff, balanced by a scathing anti-Goldsmith piece by columnist Rosamund Unwin. The editorial merely blandly says we're organbsing a debate tonight, isn't that good. As others have said, they're mildly pro-Zac overall, but nothing like the fanatical hammering of Livingstone last time.

Reminded people at the office to register for the referendum a few days ago - two quite political people had completely forgotten and scrambled to do it on the last day.

This regional foods thing is nonsense. There is (as far as I know) no reason whatsoever that a Botswanan lady of cheesy refinement can't call her product Cheddar. Who cares really, as long as we get the original tasty Canadian stuff on our shelves and can choose as we wish then I don't. (...)