"Overly cautious assumptions in the Treasury’s recent report on the long-run consequences for the UK economy of leaving the European Union (EU) mean that it has probably underestimated the economic costs."
This backs up what I said on the day - I don't think they were fearful enough. The real amount (when you adjust for the household income mistake) was £1,480. That's not scary enough to pass muster imo. Luckily for Remain, Vote Leave don't have the ability to capitalise.
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"
Don't confuse LondonBob with a dose of local knowledge. He'll keep us entertained all the way to election day ....
Remain now claiming that Luvvies will suffer. It was footballers a couple of weeks ago. The Ashdown/Rose quotes are gold. Vote Leave for Higher Wages and Cheaper food. I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of the Labour front bench on why the low paid's wages should be suppressed while their cost of living is inflated for the sake of the EU.
and with 3 million immigrants from REMAIN its
Vote Leave for Higher Wages, Cheaper food, cheaper Housing, Quicker GP appointments, Less crowded Roads, Room on trains, Less Begging, Fewer Prisoners, Less Crime etc etc
As someone said earlier , where is LEAVE's Grid of Announcements?
Where is LEAVE's campaign? Where are the adverts? the posters?
Hit them late and don't shoot your ammunition before you know the target.
VOTE LEAVE KNOW that they are going to be outspent by an additional £8 million in this campaign period (as well as the £9.6 spent by the Government) (funds spent by the tories/ lib dems/ labour compared to UKIP) so they can't afford to splash out.
'The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.'
I guess the appeal for Remainers is the one size (classical musicians and Romanian labourers ) fits all .
Just don't know how we coped before joining the EU.
Hang on, two minutes ago you were arguing that there were previously no visa restrictions on western Europeans and that it was a scare story to forget that. Now you're arguing that the visa restrictions would be smart and that it was a scare story to suggest that they would get in the way. Make your mind up which you think is the scare story.
It's quite legitimate for Remainers to point out that Leavers are arguing for visa restrictions and that they might get in the way. Many struggling artists would score low marks on any points-based system. Yet creative disruption usually comes from below rather than imposed from above.
According to my calculations, which are sometimes right, should be £163 million per week, assuming a net contribution of £8.5 bn per annum (2015).
Yep - so it's a hospital every two weeks instead of a hospital every week.
NB the EU want another €20 billion added to its budget - that will presumably cost the UK an additional €2 billion a year - which is a hospital every 8 weeks.
"Overly cautious assumptions in the Treasury’s recent report on the long-run consequences for the UK economy of leaving the European Union (EU) mean that it has probably underestimated the economic costs."
"Based on assessing the evidence, we conclude that:
The more extreme claims made about the costs and benefits of Brexit for the British economy are wide of the mark and lacking in evidential bases It is plausible that Brexit could have a modest negative impact on growth and job creation. But it is slightly more plausible that the net impacts will be modestly positive. This is a strong conclusion when compared with some studies There are potential net benefits in the areas of a more tailored immigration policy, the freedom to make trade deals, moderately lower levels of regulation and savings to the public purse. In each of these areas, we do not believe that the benefits of Brexit would be huge, but they are likely to be positive Meanwhile, costs in terms of financial services, foreign direct investment and impacts on London property markets are more likely to be short-term and there are longer-term opportunities from Brexit even in these areas It is not likely that any particular region or regions of the country would be more adversely affected by Brexit than the country overall. Likewise, we do find support for the notion that Brexit would benefit some sectors more than others, but the range of outcomes for production / manufacturing industries is probably wider than for services We continue to think that the United Kingdom’s economic prospects are good whether inside or outside the European Union. Britain has pulled ahead of the European Union in recent years, and we expect that gap to widen over the next few years regardless of whether Brexit occurs."
How the thriving arts scene in New York survives without membership of the EU is a mystery.
London pre 1975 must have been a dull place. What did people do in the evenings?
Surely you saw that graph showing how the birth-rate has levelled off dramatically?
I think, other than creating kids, they interacted with them, improving their education, speech, language and literacy. Nowadays kids are so thick they think the EU is a good idea.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I looked at this from the past 3-4 years and I think what it actually is a lot of people of a certain age have been dying shall we say prematurely, while also having become famous in that age when mass tv etc watching came about e.g. I think somebody like Paul Daniels would struggle to have a weekly show with fairly so so tricks getting 10+ million viewers. Even popular comedians / comedy shows don't get the same kind of viewership of like Two Ronnies.
The people dying were also heroes / icons / height of fame when a lot of important media folks were young and involved with these people.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I looked at this from the past 3-4 years and I think what it actually is a lot of people of a certain age have been dying shall we say prematurely, while also having become famous in that age when mass tv etc watching came about e.g. I think somebody like Paul Daniels would struggle to have a weekly show with fairly so so tricks getting 10+ million viewers. Even popular comedians / comedy shows don't get the same kind of viewership of like Two Ronnies.
Sex drugs n'rock and roll finally catches up with them.
Kenyon was referring to travel visa requirements for musicians touring the UK, which is not repeat not the same as full time open ended employment with full UK benefits.
But of course you already knew that,but it doesn't suit your narrative.
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I think you are still alive - but yes a lot are - and the rate will increase as there are more and more famous people (actually celebrities) made such due to the massive increase in television and the cinema from the 1950s onwards.
Prince has died aged 57 at his estate in Minnesota. Paramedics were called to his Paisley Park studio at 9.43 this morning, TMZ reported. Carver County Sheriff's Department confirmed that there had been a fatality. A forensics team and a medical examiner are at the scene. Prince, 57, was hospitalized six days ago with flu symptoms
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I looked at this from the past 3-4 years and I think what it actually is a lot of people of a certain age have been dying shall we say prematurely, while also having become famous in that age when mass tv etc watching came about e.g. I think somebody like Paul Daniels would struggle to have a weekly show with fairly so so tricks getting 10+ million viewers. Even popular comedians / comedy shows don't get the same kind of viewership of like Two Ronnies.
Sex drugs n'rock and roll finally catches up with them.
Or pickles them for eternity....Mick Jagger....Ozzy Osborne....
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"
I have always preferred, obviously biased, anecdotal evidence over good solid polling.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I think you are still alive - but yes a lot are - and the rate will increase as there are more and more famous people (actually celebrities) made such due to the massive increase in television and the cinema from the 1950s onwards.
If it carries on like this then the section in the End of years papers "Those we lost in 2016" is going to have to be a newspaper on its own.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
We are compelled to have open borders to the EU, and not just for work, whilst we impose global restrictions to compensate just to keep numbers sustainable.
Neither make sense IMHO, and a clear majority of the public disagree with you.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Then a points based system won't be a problem.
So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.
Mr. P, hmm. Is it me, or do an awful lot of famous people seem to be dying this year?
I think you are still alive - but yes a lot are - and the rate will increase as there are more and more famous people (actually celebrities) made such due to the massive increase in television and the cinema from the 1950s onwards.
If it carries on like this then the section in the End of years papers "Those we lost in 2016" is going to have to be a newspaper on its own.
If you feel morbid go to www.deathlist.net - if you look at the early lists most people are in their late 70s or early 80s. They are now mainly in the mid 90s and some over 100. (other than some high-profile people with very ill health). (Paul Gascoigne recently stated that he actually died through to shock of coming off booze. I wonder whether that should count and if he could be on the list twice.)
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"
Don't confuse LondonBob with a dose of local knowledge. He'll keep us entertained all the way to election day ....
Maybe I should come up with some hilariously named and totally inaccurate forecast. Although Mike K has so wonderfully sent that up already.
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"
I have always preferred, obviously biased, anecdotal evidence over good solid polling.
Any other gems you want to share?
You mean the "good solid polling" showing Trump being drubbed in New York ?
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Then a points based system won't be a problem.
So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.
For a lot of people the system is NOT working well for them. Logic succeed.
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
I don't think so. I live in Westchester and it trends more and more Democratic each year. The only success the GOP has had locally in recent years is taking and holding the County Executive ("Mayor") for the last two terms, and that's pretty much down to his trying to keep property taxes down. As to how Trump goes down around here - I shall quote the Fox News-watching owner of the barber's shop I use "He's a f***ing nutjob!"
I have always preferred, obviously biased, anecdotal evidence over good solid polling.
Any other gems you want to share?
You mean the "good solid polling" showing Trump being drubbed in New York ?
Some brilliant tracks: 1999, When Doves Cry, Kiss, Purple Rain, Nothing Compares 2 U, Manic Monday to name just a few.
Never mind the known back catalogue, Prince was famously Stakhanovite in his work ethic and a poor judge of his own material (he never again played "Kiss" the same way as he did on the single because he didn't like it). There is apparently decades' worth of music stored in a vault:
Remain now claiming that Luvvies will suffer. It was footballers a couple of weeks ago. The Ashdown/Rose quotes are gold. Vote Leave for Higher Wages and Cheaper food. I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of the Labour front bench on why the low paid's wages should be suppressed while their cost of living is inflated for the sake of the EU.
and with 3 million immigrants from REMAIN its
Vote Leave for Higher Wages, Cheaper food, cheaper Housing, Quicker GP appointments, Less crowded Roads, Room on trains, Less Begging, Fewer Prisoners, Less Crime etc etc
As someone said earlier , where is LEAVE's Grid of Announcements?
Where is LEAVE's campaign? Where are the adverts? the posters?
They are targeting through social media from things I've heard, and I've received more from them than Remain in the mail.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Then a points based system won't be a problem.
So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.
You'd keep a system that has no future guarantee that migrants will have the skills the economy lacks even though you imply introducing a more stringent one would cause no hardship to the majority of current applicants?
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Then a points based system won't be a problem.
So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.
You'd keep a system that has no future guarantee that migrants will have the skills the economy lacks even though you imply introducing a more stringent one would cause no hardship to the majority of current applicants?
Where a system works, don't change it until it doesn't work.
The change you propose will deter some who we would want to attract from applying and will send a signal to others who we would want to attract that Britain is becoming less open (thus making Britain a less attractive destination). There is no reason to assume that it would improve the quality of applicants and it might well do the exact opposite.
Remain now claiming that Luvvies will suffer. It was footballers a couple of weeks ago. The Ashdown/Rose quotes are gold. Vote Leave for Higher Wages and Cheaper food. I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of the Labour front bench on why the low paid's wages should be suppressed while their cost of living is inflated for the sake of the EU.
and with 3 million immigrants from REMAIN its
Vote Leave for Higher Wages, Cheaper food, cheaper Housing, Quicker GP appointments, Less crowded Roads, Room on trains, Less Begging, Fewer Prisoners, Less Crime etc etc
As someone said earlier , where is LEAVE's Grid of Announcements?
Where is LEAVE's campaign? Where are the adverts? the posters?
They are targeting through social media from things I've heard, and I've received more from them than Remain in the mail.
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
A rare find. Prince paid to have the internet 'sanitised' of his work, by a company that specialises in such things. Bootlegs were a particular bugbear, even though it was rumoured that many songs were inadvertently leaked by him, giving tapes to friends.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
I went to Germany and Austria before 1973 without a Visa and in 1978 to Sweden without a Visa before they joined the EU even though we had......
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
With full control of immigration repatriated, and public confidence restored, it's perfectly possible there'd be broad political support for relatively high rates of net immigration, provided this was done on a high-skills, needs based approach and subject to change where necessary through normal electoral pressures.
Just like in Australia and Canada.
I might add that a lot of Remainers support the EU, because they think it overrides their perceptions of what they think would happen if democracy was allowed to prevail, in their interests.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
There's a referendum going on. The people are being trusted.
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Then a points based system won't be a problem.
So you change a system that is working well for Britain for the hell of it? Logic fail.
You'd keep a system that has no future guarantee that migrants will have the skills the economy lacks even though you imply introducing a more stringent one would cause no hardship to the majority of current applicants?
Where a system works, don't change it until it doesn't work.
The change you propose will deter some who we would want to attract from applying and will send a signal to others who we would want to attract that Britain is becoming less open (thus making Britain a less attractive destination). There is no reason to assume that it would improve the quality of applicants and it might well do the exact opposite.
It's awfully kind of you to invite me to accompany you to the USA and tour your favourite gay pleasure grounds. However I must demure and REMAIN in the UK and LEAVE you to your frolicsome pleasures alone.
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
HRC v Trump NY:- Hilary 19% ahead in latest RCP poll - New York Post is whistling to keep its spirits up. It is far more likely that 2012 GOP will become competitive if its Clinton v Trump.
It's awfully kind of you to invite me to accompany you to the USA and tour your favourite gay pleasure grounds. However I must demure and REMAIN in the UK and LEAVE you to your frolicsome pleasures alone.
As you are well aware, the gay pleasure ground at Auchentennach Castle are second to none.
It's awfully kind of you to invite me to accompany you to the USA and tour your favourite gay pleasure grounds. However I must demure and REMAIN in the UK and LEAVE you to your frolicsome pleasures alone.
As you are well aware, the gay pleasure ground at Auchentennach Castle are second to none.
It a queer thing but we've had a gay old time at Auchentennach Castle for centuries and nobody batty(ied) an eyelid ....
What amused me was Trump's 80% in Staten Island, Italian-Americans just go nuts for Trump. Whilst I think Trump will make NY competitive, forcing the Democrats to campaign in a very expensive media market, it is NJ that might be a dark horse. Romney got a pathetic share of the white vote there and there is also a big Guido community on the Jersey shore.
There are a few Plains West and Rocky Mountain West states coming up that Cruz should do well in. Problem is they have very few to no Mormons, and they are Primaries too. Also there might be a rally round the leader effect. Trump won a few counties in Idaho that border Montana, the ones without Mormons, even though it was caucus. I don't see Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota as sure things for Cruz, Montana I could see an upset.
New York competitive? You seriously have to be joking.
Around 10% margin, no problem. Long Island and Westchester going Republican.
HRC v Trump NY:- Hilary 19% ahead in latest RCP poll - New York Post is whistling to keep its spirits up. It is far more likely that 2012 GOP will become competitive if its Clinton v Trump.
I don't put a whole lot of store by polls at this early stage, they can be a nice indicator of potential ares of strength, or weakness, however. Especially as these races are hard fought and the crucial issue of turnout is often badly factored in. I actually prefer primaries. Trump did well in the primary with turnout and vote share in areas north of NY and on Long Island. Of course it was closed and registration was problematic, so you have to bear that in mind.
20% at this stage is fine, can easily go to nearer to 10% by election day. Remember Obama beat Romney by 28%, so that ain't bad.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
I went to Germany and Austria before 1973 without a Visa and in 1978 to Sweden without a Visa before they joined the EU even though we had......
I went to the World Cup Final in Munich in 1974, didn't need a visa either...
In LA at the moment and have gone out with a number of family / friends. What is very interesting is the fixed views on the Democrat side of the pro-Sanders group - Trump is dismissed as "just an idiot" but they are very scathing of Hillary to the point of hate (crook being the most used epitaph). The pro-Hillary group are definitely behind her and will get out to vote but I would be worried if I was her about the Sanders' supporters.
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania. Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania. Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?
No more Cornish Pasties, Melton Mowbray pork pies...
No more Cameron.
Voting Leave to get rid of Cameron is ridiculous, although I suppose you just view it as a nice coincidental benefit
Erm, think you have the wrong person.
I've never voted Tory in my life but I would have voted for Cameron at the GE if I lived in a marginal. I admired him up until his ludicrous 'deal' and the way he has conducted himself since.
Win or lose this is the end for Cameron regardless.
CH4 push on this is kinda of debatable. They are trying to assign a direct cost of having volunteers who move from place to place to particular constituency, but the value of which is hard to put a figure on, because they travel all over the place and often stay in hotels in yet a different constituency.
It is clearly a fudge that the Tories (and I bet all the other parties use) to get around local spending limits. CH4 are also trying to argue national vs local, again, travelling around the country seems "national", but when they turn up they also support the "local" candidate.
I seemed to remember the by-election where they used a similar tactic, they stayed outside of the constituency.
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania. Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania. Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?
Almost. Without Indiana or any unpledged Pennsylvania delegates I say 50/50 for him to reach 1237, with Indiana he gets to 1237 regardless.
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
I went to Germany and Austria before 1973 without a Visa and in 1978 to Sweden without a Visa before they joined the EU even though we had......
I went to the World Cup Final in Munich in 1974, didn't need a visa either...
I was taken to West Germany in 1949 without a visa.
They are targeting through social media from things I've heard, and I've received more from them than Remain in the mail.
Had nothing in Holloway from either side as yet (bar a reversible Khan/In poster). My block of flats has had two Khan leaflets and I received a personal postal vote reminder today; the LibDems and Greens have delivered a leaflet each too. Nothing from Goldsmith so far.
The Standard has a big piece by their political editor pushing the Islamic stuff, balanced by a scathing anti-Goldsmith piece by columnist Rosamund Unwin. The editorial merely blandly says we're organbsing a debate tonight, isn't that good. As others have said, they're mildly pro-Zac overall, but nothing like the fanatical hammering of Livingstone last time.
Reminded people at the office to register for the referendum a few days ago - two quite political people had completely forgotten and scrambled to do it on the last day.
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania. Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
Has the Trump Train reached it's final destination?
This regional foods thing is nonsense. There is (as far as I know) no reason whatsoever that a Botswanan lady of cheesy refinement can't call her product Cheddar. Who cares really, as long as we get the original tasty Canadian stuff on our shelves and can choose as we wish then I don't. (...)
'without being subject to the bureaucracy of individual nations’ visa systems'
Is Kenyon just ignorant of the fact that apart from COMECON countries there were no visa requirements to travel in Europe before we joined the EU or is it just another scare story ?
The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.
I went to Germany and Austria before 1973 without a Visa and in 1978 to Sweden without a Visa before they joined the EU even though we had......
I went to the World Cup Final in Munich in 1974, didn't need a visa either...
I was taken to West Germany in 1949 without a visa.
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'The appeal of Brexit for many of your fellow leavers is to be able to reintroduce restrictions on freedom of movement.'
I guess the appeal for Remainers is the one size (classical musicians and Romanian labourers ) fits all .
Just don't know how we coped before joining the EU.
Can this be a PB US election thread header?
VOTE LEAVE KNOW that they are going to be outspent by an additional £8 million in this campaign period (as well as the £9.6 spent by the Government) (funds spent by the tories/ lib dems/ labour compared to UKIP) so they can't afford to splash out.
It's quite legitimate for Remainers to point out that Leavers are arguing for visa restrictions and that they might get in the way. Many struggling artists would score low marks on any points-based system. Yet creative disruption usually comes from below rather than imposed from above.
NB the EU want another €20 billion added to its budget - that will presumably cost the UK an additional €2 billion a year - which is a hospital every 8 weeks.
"Based on assessing the evidence, we conclude that:
The more extreme claims made about the costs and benefits of Brexit for the British economy are wide of the mark and lacking in evidential bases
It is plausible that Brexit could have a modest negative impact on growth and job creation. But it is slightly more plausible that the net impacts will be modestly positive. This is a strong conclusion when compared with some studies
There are potential net benefits in the areas of a more tailored immigration policy, the freedom to make trade deals, moderately lower levels of regulation and savings to the public purse. In each of these areas, we do not believe that the benefits of Brexit would be huge, but they are likely to be positive
Meanwhile, costs in terms of financial services, foreign direct investment and impacts on London property markets are more likely to be short-term and there are longer-term opportunities from Brexit even in these areas
It is not likely that any particular region or regions of the country would be more adversely affected by Brexit than the country overall. Likewise, we do find support for the notion that Brexit would benefit some sectors more than others, but the range of outcomes for production / manufacturing industries is probably wider than for services
We continue to think that the United Kingdom’s economic prospects are good whether inside or outside the European Union. Britain has pulled ahead of the European Union in recent years, and we expect that gap to widen over the next few years regardless of whether Brexit occurs."
@Wanderer ...The EU national anthem
http://youtu.be/VnT7pT6zCcA
Just like in Australia and Canada.
This is neither healthy nor sustainable for the body politik.
Respect and trust the people.
They might surprise you.
The people dying were also heroes / icons / height of fame when a lot of important media folks were young and involved with these people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCME6ys6IFU
Recent migrants are twice as likely as the native-born to have completed education aged 21 or over. They already are disproportionately high-skilled. Given that current employment is at record levels, the system is already working for Britain.
Kenyon was referring to travel visa requirements for musicians touring the UK, which is not repeat not the same as full time open ended employment with full UK benefits.
But of course you already knew that,but it doesn't suit your narrative.
My estimate for Trump is 46 delegates
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPatwSu0dv8n3ZaCLm86KzJ3LUfDyJWaMpBSRukjd4w/edit#gid=984584906
Prince has died aged 57 at his estate in Minnesota. Paramedics were called to his Paisley Park studio at 9.43 this morning, TMZ reported. Carver County Sheriff's Department confirmed that there had been a fatality. A forensics team and a medical examiner are at the scene. Prince, 57, was hospitalized six days ago with flu symptoms
Any other gems you want to share?
Neither make sense IMHO, and a clear majority of the public disagree with you.
RIP
It's also a quite track for writing fantasy to.
Results by MBCB: My Beautiful Crystal Balls
Brilliant!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36101644
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_trump_vs_clinton-5792.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Monday
You seem to follow my every post so surely you didn't miss me post that?
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/19/i-would-hide-4-u-whats-in-princes-secret-vault
I wonder which camp you follow .... Oopps shouldn't mention camp about the Soviet leader ....
The change you propose will deter some who we would want to attract from applying and will send a signal to others who we would want to attract that Britain is becoming less open (thus making Britain a less attractive destination). There is no reason to assume that it would improve the quality of applicants and it might well do the exact opposite.
https://vimeo.com/150445815
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36104879
http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/21/got-the-evening-free-why-not-watch-the-titanic-sink-in-real-time-5832400/
It's awfully kind of you to invite me to accompany you to the USA and tour your favourite gay pleasure grounds. However I must demure and REMAIN in the UK and LEAVE you to your frolicsome pleasures alone.
20% at this stage is fine, can easily go to nearer to 10% by election day. Remember Obama beat Romney by 28%, so that ain't bad.
I'm going to see Springsteen in June, getting worried now.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/21/brexit-eu-referendum-uk-regional-food-protection-david-cameron
No more Cornish Pasties, Melton Mowbray pork pies...
As things go Khan might win on first preferences in London.
Off topic.
I'm shocked that Prince has died, and at that young age, and from the flu.
Please give what you can. Every tenner helps.
Trump 41
Cruz 23
Kasich 15
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/donald-trump-california-primary-poll-222277
It confirms the CBS/Yougov poll, California looks like Pennsylvania.
Now if only we had a poll from Indiana with a Trump lead I would declare the GOP primary over.
Still, it's a good job the WTO has rules on protected geographical designations.
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_e/gi_background_e.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgn6mttT0og
BREXITEERS - Don't mess with my pies ....
I've never voted Tory in my life but I would have voted for Cameron at the GE if I lived in a marginal. I admired him up until his ludicrous 'deal' and the way he has conducted himself since.
Win or lose this is the end for Cameron regardless.
Cameron's either ill advised, disingenuous or too stupid to realise that trade and protection bodies exist outside the EU structure.
'UK's regional foods could lose protection after Brexit, Cameron says
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/21/brexit-eu-referendum-uk-regional-food-protection-david-cameron
No more Cornish Pasties, Melton Mowbray pork pies.'
Just foodbanks instead.
It is clearly a fudge that the Tories (and I bet all the other parties use) to get around local spending limits. CH4 are also trying to argue national vs local, again, travelling around the country seems "national", but when they turn up they also support the "local" candidate.
I seemed to remember the by-election where they used a similar tactic, they stayed outside of the constituency.
Without Indiana or any unpledged Pennsylvania delegates I say 50/50 for him to reach 1237, with Indiana he gets to 1237 regardless.
I am thinking of following your example and ordering a load of leaflets to deliver locally.
The Standard has a big piece by their political editor pushing the Islamic stuff, balanced by a scathing anti-Goldsmith piece by columnist Rosamund Unwin. The editorial merely blandly says we're organbsing a debate tonight, isn't that good. As others have said, they're mildly pro-Zac overall, but nothing like the fanatical hammering of Livingstone last time.
Reminded people at the office to register for the referendum a few days ago - two quite political people had completely forgotten and scrambled to do it on the last day.