Following the explosive testimony by Dom Cummings Matt Hancock now betting favourite to be next Cabinet exit – politicalbetting.com
Firstly an apology. I was totally wrong when I predicted yesterday that the Dom Cummings appearance today before MPs would be a damp squib and would not live up to its billing.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
A Washington Post journalist. The actual Washington Post factchecker. This time last year:
"Glenn Kessler @GlennKesslerWP I fear @tedcruz missed the scientific animation in the video that shows how it is virtually impossible for this virus jump from the lab. Or the many interviews with actual scientists. We deal in facts, and viewers can judge for themselves."
Not a shred of remorse, no apology, not even a Whoops!
WE DEAL IN FACTS
He actually says this in his own piece
"As a reader service, here is a timeline of key events that have led to this reassessment. In some instances, important information was available from the start but was generally ignored. But in other cases, some experts fought against the conventional wisdom and began to build a credible case, rooted in science, that started to change people’s minds. This has led to renewed calls for a real investigation into the lab’s activities before the coronavirus emerged."
I wonder who was "generally ignoring" important information, Mr We-Deal-With-Facts-And-Actual-Scientists?
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
That's a lay and trade out once this is all over. There's no way Boris can dump Hancock without giving Dom credibility which he will want to avoid at all costs given everything else alleged.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If Hancock is transferred elsewhere?
Bet's a loser.
But Hancock has been Health Secretary for nearly three years now, nearly half that time under a pandemic, which in political years is decade, so a transfer upwards/sidewards says Cummuings was talking rubbish.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If Hancock is transferred elsewhere?
The possibility that Hancock may be moved in the next reshuffle has previously been discussed - the theory being that a new broom at Health would be part of the process of drawing a line under the pandemic.
Johnson could always give Williamson the boot and move Hancock to Education, but that's a pure guess on my part, of course.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If Hancock is transferred elsewhere?
Hancock is associated with successful vaccines. Cummings with pointless eye tests. Whether fair or unfair, that’s where we are.
There are rumours he is to be moved to Education. In a way, that would make sense. That of course piles the pressure on Williamson, the one cabinet minister whose performance under Johnson has been absolutely without any redeeming feature whatsoever.
Amazing random stat - apparently Elon Musk was worth $27bn at the start of 2020, and his net worth was $185bn by the start of 2021 (though it fluctuates a lot month to month). That's downright insane. Even Bezos's wealth didn't rise that steeply in a single year.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If Hancock is transferred elsewhere?
Bet's a loser.
But Hancock has been Health Secretary for nearly three years now, nearly half that time under a pandemic, which in political years is decade, so a transfer upwards/sidewards says Cummuings was talking rubbish.
Isn’t Hancock one of the ministers who were thought not to buy the Cult of Dom? Maybe this was just personal spite.
Of course, he is a liar, and not very competent, albeit he is more trustworthy and more competent than Cummings. But I’m doubtful about how much pressure he’s under.
Yes. Initially I thought the scattergun approach wouldn't yield concrete results for him, but in fact seven hours of relentlessly extensive and diverse testimony has just provided too much juice for the media. The kitchen-sink and bulldozer approach, which has maybe worked for Cummings many times in his life, without him ever needing to have established full coherence of his view of things.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If he can at least delay departure until an overall reshuffle he can claim it is unrelated to any such claims, particularly if Hancock goes (or is demoted) quietly, needing a less intense job etc after the Covid years.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If Hancock is transferred elsewhere?
Bet's a loser.
But Hancock has been Health Secretary for nearly three years now, nearly half that time under a pandemic, which in political years is decade, so a transfer upwards/sidewards says Cummuings was talking rubbish.
Isn’t Hancock one of the ministers who were thought not to buy the Cult of Dom? Maybe this was just personal spite.
Of course, he is a liar, and not very competent, albeit he is more trustworthy and more competent than Cummings. But I’m doubtful about how much pressure he’s under.
I did hear that Hancock and the PM got into a heated argument over Covid last March/April/May but that was eventually fixed.
I do admire Hancock, he definitely subscribes to David Cameron's view of Cummings, which is shared by many, including Priti Patel.
“Explosive” = possibly having some relationship with the truth, even if only at ships in the night level? One can see how the media class were taken in by him given their reporting continues to be, let’s be charitable, slightly superficial.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If he can at least delay departure until an overall reshuffle he can claim it is unrelated to any such claims, particularly if Hancock goes (or is demoted) quietly, needing a less intense job etc after the Covid years.
I expect an Autumn reshuffle as suggested to provide a fresh look for the conference
I also expect Hancock will not be demoted but moved to another important ministry
Yes. Initially I thought the scattergun approach wouldn't yield concrete results for him, but in fact seven hours of relentlessly extensive testimony has just provided too much juice for the media. The relentless bulldozer approach, which has maybe worked for Cummings many times in his life, without him ever needing to have established full coherence.
That segue from Covid-19 to Trump wanting to bomb the Middle East to Carrie Antoinette paralysing Downing Street because of a story in The Times about the dog is what will be fun for the media.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Yes. Initially I thought the scattergun approach wouldn't yield concrete results for him, but in fact seven hours of relentlessly extensive testimony has just provided too much juice for the media. The relentless bulldozer approach, which has maybe worked for Cummings many times in his life without him needing too much coherence.
I would have thought he would be unsuccessful in his goals at the Committee, but as you say the sheer amount and length of time would appear to help his efforts considerably - a lot may slip through, especially with wilder claims distracting, but I may be wrong on that as a few distracting petty claims in an hour or two of testimony is different to some wilder claims distracting from a lot more than that. Fair play to him for preparing for it - lots phone it in at such times, or only have energy for an opening salvo.
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
You are absolutely right. No matter how unconvincing Hhhancock is tomorrow.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales England at rugby. You want them both to lose.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
If Johnson does get rid of Hancock he's effectively confirming that all of the stuff Cummings has said today is true, so by that basis I make Hancock safe.
If he can at least delay departure until an overall reshuffle he can claim it is unrelated to any such claims, particularly if Hancock goes (or is demoted) quietly, needing a less intense job etc after the Covid years.
I expect an Autumn reshuffle as suggested to provide a fresh look for the conference
I also expect Hancock will not be demoted but moved to another important ministry
As long as he does not reject it or leak complaints then they can get past claims he is being demoted. Health is a pretty big and important ministry, with prestige (others may be important but lack prestige), so ending up at MHCLG might be seen as a demotion, but it can be defended as not being one, even if it is no promotion (eg to a Great Office - although the public might regard Health as more important than some of those).
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
Amazing random stat - apparently Elon Musk was worth $27bn at the start of 2020, and his net worth was $185bn by the start of 2021 (though it fluctuates a lot month to month). That's downright insane. Even Bezos's wealth didn't rise that steeply in a single year.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
Not having damaged the education of millions of children with his botched exam reform?
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
His father in law is. I suppose with his own wealth and that of his wife he may be close to being one? (closer than me at any rate).
I know you're All About Dom, but the lab leak story is pretty mind-blowing: in particular, the way the media have reported it and how they have changed their stance 180 degrees without shame or apology. This thread. My God.
That the Covid pandemic could’ve leaked from a lab in Wuhan went from terrible, racist conspiracy theory to plausible overnight for the mainstream media, without a shred of accountability.
If you don’t believe me, look at these stories side-by-side, then vs. now"
"But it wasn’t just NYT. There’s a lot of ammo from @CNN, too.
Not even two months ago, they ran a piece writing off the lab leak theory as “like something out of a comic book.”
Yesterday, the tone had changed, without any reference to their own role in the previous debate."
"For @BBCNews, the lab leak theory went from a conspiracy theory on par with China’s suggestion that the US created the virus to “all hypotheses are on the table” without an ounce of self awareness."
I agree with one of his conclusions
"Instead, because they hated Trump so much, they preferred to trust a lab run by shadowy hostile autocrats who had every incentive to lie (and long history of lying) about something that could turn out to be the most consequential coverup in living memory.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
He's not a billionaire, his wife is a multi millionaire because her father is a billionaire.
Because of the time value of money we're not likely to have ever had a billionaire as PM.
I'm trying to think, relatively speaking, the richest PM we've ever had.
Thatcher was quite wealthy thanks to her husband's business interests.
Going back further it might be the Earl of Derby who was worth £7 million back in the 19th century, which must be worth £500 million in today's money?
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
For some reason I always forget about him being Scottish.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
Not having damaged the education of millions of children with his botched exam reform?
Well, it takes all sorts.
A botched reform can be fixed, Scotland seceding cannot.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
I wonder if he would, in relative terms, be richer than the current record holder, the 14th Earl of Derby who was worth around £7 million at his death in 1869, but that’s not a billion.
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
His father in law is. I suppose with his own wealth and that of his wife he may be close to being one? (closer than me at any rate).
Father in law isn't the same thing. I'm sure he's closer than me also to being one.
The richest person to become British Prime Minister was Edward Stanley the 14th Earl of Derby (1799-1869) who had a personal fortune in excess of £7 million (about £444 million in today's terms).
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
He's not a billionaire, his wife is a multi millionaire because her father is a billionaire.
Because of the time value of money we're not likely to have ever had a billionaire as PM.
I'm trying to think, relatively speaking, the richest PM we've ever had.
Thatcher was quite wealthy thanks to her husband's business interests.
Going back further it might be the Earl of Derby who was worth £7 million back in the 19th century, which must be worth £500 million in today's money?
Measuring Worth makes the following calculations:
If you want to compare the value of a £7,000,000 0s 0d Commodity in 1869 there are four choices. In 2019 the relative: real price of that commodity is £651,400,000.00 labour value of that commodity is £4,241,000,000.00 income value of that commodity is £6,152,000,000.00 economic share of that commodity is £15,290,000,000.00
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
Not having damaged the education of millions of children with his botched exam reform?
Well, it takes all sorts.
A botched reform can be fixed, Scotland seceding cannot.
It can as Union matters are reserved to Westminster, so as the UK government is refusing to have an indyref2 there is nothing the SNP can do about it
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
He's not a billionaire, his wife is a multi millionaire because her father is a billionaire.
Because of the time value of money we're not likely to have ever had a billionaire as PM.
I'm trying to think, relatively speaking, the richest PM we've ever had.
Thatcher was quite wealthy thanks to her husband's business interests.
Going back further it might be the Earl of Derby who was worth £7 million back in the 19th century, which must be worth £500 million in today's money?
Heseltine would have been the richest PM in my lifetime had he won the Tory leadership in 1990, he made the ST rich list on more than a few occasions. The Heseltine family has a net worth of £300 million
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
Rishi is a billionaire ain't he? Have we ever had a billionaire PM before?
He's not a billionaire, his wife is a multi millionaire because her father is a billionaire.
Because of the time value of money we're not likely to have ever had a billionaire as PM.
I'm trying to think, relatively speaking, the richest PM we've ever had.
Thatcher was quite wealthy thanks to her husband's business interests.
Going back further it might be the Earl of Derby who was worth £7 million back in the 19th century, which must be worth £500 million in today's money?
The richest person to become British Prime Minister was Edward Stanley the 14th Earl of Derby (1799-1869) who had a personal fortune in excess of £7 million (about £444 million in today's terms).
The richest person to become British Prime Minister was Edward Stanley the 14th Earl of Derby (1799-1869) who had a personal fortune in excess of £7 million (about £444 million in today's terms).
I'm not sure what Dominic gains from this? We thought last year that he was a nasty little b*stard and now he shows that's true. Is he telling the full truth? Two words ... "Barnard Castle."
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Definite loser today is Sunak.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
I would say, good news for the other challengers.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
I am fairly certain that Gove is currently having a crisis of confidence.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
For some reason I always forget about him being Scottish.
The richest person to become British Prime Minister was Edward Stanley the 14th Earl of Derby (1799-1869) who had a personal fortune in excess of £7 million (about £444 million in today's terms).
I doubt it. The Duke of Wellington earned most of his money, including £400,000 granted to him for his triumph over Napoleon. Remember, he was a younger son and the family fortune went to his brother Richard.
Anyhoo, Unionists will be glad to hear that even amidst all the head office's travails BBC Scotland is still putting the British into BBC.
I genuinely wonder if that was a hamfisted attempt at 'find the local(national) angle' as much as any spin, but you'd know their form on such matters better than I.
Bojo is an over-promoted lazy **** who is yet to finish a sentence. Cummings and he make a good pair. They're both up their own arses. The same for Salmond and Wee Jimmy.
But The COVID year has shown how basically stupid our press is. Never mind the facts, print a story. Although I had laugh at Peston for mixing up antibodies and antigens. Better to let them think you're stupid than to remove all doubt.
Bojo is an over-promoted lazy **** who is yet to finish a sentence. Cummings and he make a good pair. They're both up their own arses. The same for Salmond and Wee Jimmy.
But The COVID year has shown how basically stupid our press is. Never mind the facts, print a story. Although I had laugh at Peston for mixing up antibodies and antigens. Better to let them think you're stupid than to remove all doubt.
Setting aside one's personal views of Cummings, Barnard Castle etc. today's session was absolutely gripping, endlessly fascinating. I suspect few commentators on here or elsewhere watched the whole thing, and the snippets don't do it justice.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
Bojo is an over-promoted lazy **** who is yet to finish a sentence. Cummings and he make a good pair. They're both up their own arses. The same for Salmond and Wee Jimmy.
But The COVID year has shown how basically stupid our press is. Never mind the facts, print a story. Although I had laugh at Peston for mixing up antibodies and antigens. Better to let them think you're stupid than to remove all doubt.
Not many have enhanced their reputations.
God I forgot about that classic from Prof Peston...there has been so many incidents.
Anyhoo, Unionists will be glad to hear that even amidst all the head office's travails BBC Scotland is still putting the British into BBC.
I genuinely wonder if that was a hamfisted attempt at 'find the local(national) angle' as much as any spin, but you'd know their form on such matters better than I.
That sounds about right to me.
It's just the same as when there's a hurricane in Jamaica that makes first or second story on the main bulletin, so the local news programme interviews a woman whose brother lives in Kingston and got slightly wet in it.
Car giant Nissan is reportedly in advanced talks to build a huge electric car battery plant in the UK.
In Sunderland apparently.
Get that and a Tesla factory, would be very good result.
It seems as though the government is taking car electrification very seriously. That British Volt company should also get the go ahead and there's another two or three independent suppliers in the pipeline who intend to supply to other manufacturers based in the UK and northern Europe.
One of the big ones is producing battery packs for commercial vehicles and I'm told the government is looking to get a march on Europe in that area so the UK can rebuild commercial vehicle manufacturing.
Setting aside one's personal views of Cummings, Barnard Castle etc. today's session was absolutely gripping, endlessly fascinating. I suspect few commentators on here or elsewhere watched the whole thing, and the snippets don't do it justice.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
I'd be interested in the book version - takes some of the heat out of things.
Setting aside one's personal views of Cummings, Barnard Castle etc. today's session was absolutely gripping, endlessly fascinating. I suspect few commentators on here or elsewhere watched the whole thing, and the snippets don't do it justice.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
I watched the whole session and it was fascinating and a good insight into the conflicts between personalities and groupings
I have no idea how this will influence our politics largely because Starmer and Labour are not at the races but also Cummings has little creditability with the public
Whatever the truth of his behaviour and actions it will take balls the size of cannonballs for him to face the media.
He is doing a covid press conference tomorrow apparently.
Easier to dodge questions then - even though Covid related, he'll say to focus on the need to talk about current issues, or if he wants just make a flat denial and move on, and hope that any proof contradiction would be some way down the line.
Setting aside one's personal views of Cummings, Barnard Castle etc. today's session was absolutely gripping, endlessly fascinating. I suspect few commentators on here or elsewhere watched the whole thing, and the snippets don't do it justice.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
That reminds me of Brian Conley's Septic Peg!
"I predict that the winner of this weeks National Lottery will be either a man or a woman, celebrating a birthday sometime this year"
Setting aside one's personal views of Cummings, Barnard Castle etc. today's session was absolutely gripping, endlessly fascinating. I suspect few commentators on here or elsewhere watched the whole thing, and the snippets don't do it justice.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
Whatever the truth of his behaviour and actions it will take balls the size of cannonballs for him to face the media.
He is doing a covid press conference tomorrow apparently.
Easier to dodge questions then - even though Covid related, he'll say to focus on the need to talk about current issues, or if he wants just make a flat denial and move on, and hope that any proof contradiction would be some way down the line.
The urgent question response will be interesting (if he does it)
I didn’t listen to the testimony but unless there was a specific smoking gun I suspect there is value in laying Hancock
- sacking the health secretary even at the tail end of a pandemic would be stupid - It would lead people to ask “why” and take the patina off the success story they have told
Far more likely he gets moved in a post summer reshuffle. Either sideways or a promotion.
But in all seriousness it's about what you'd expect - it's like the Salmond rating, old opponents still don't trust him even if he is attacking a shared enemy, and new opponents who used to be allies will hate him with the fire of a thousand suns.
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Breaking news: News journalists & presenters around the world are shitting bricks as the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Covid-19 variant has been identified in Wales.
Amazing random stat - apparently Elon Musk was worth $27bn at the start of 2020, and his net worth was $185bn by the start of 2021 (though it fluctuates a lot month to month). That's downright insane. Even Bezos's wealth didn't rise that steeply in a single year.
Tesla share price went totally bonkers last year, it’s not possibly sustainable now that every other manufacturer is playing the same game.
Obviously I wasn't there and can't know for sure, but my hunch is that Cummings' accusations against Matt Hancock for 'lying' (a very strong word, and one which shouldn't be thrown around lightly) are unfair. My guess is that what Hancock said on various occasions and which turned out to be wrong, such as regarding PPE availability and testing before discharge of patients to care homes, were actually instances of him not probing properly to find out what was actually going on, rather than him deliberately lying.
Breaking news: News journalists & presenters around the world are shitting bricks as the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Covid-19 variant has been identified in Wales.
Breaking news: News journalists & presenters around the world are shitting bricks as the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Covid-19 variant has been identified in Wales.
Breaking news: News journalists & presenters around the world are shitting bricks as the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Covid-19 variant has been identified in Wales.
Drakeford will be able to pronounce it
There, I have said a nice thing about him
The Drake can pronounce anything, in any language, human or alien.
But in all seriousness it's about what you'd expect - it's like the Salmond rating, old opponents still don't trust him even if he is attacking a shared enemy, and new opponents who used to be allies will hate him with the fire of a thousand suns.
I believe that polling predates today’s jollities. Would be interesting if they had caused any changes.
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A Washington Post journalist. The actual Washington Post factchecker. This time last year:
"Glenn Kessler
@GlennKesslerWP
I fear @tedcruz missed the scientific animation in the video that shows how it is virtually impossible for this virus jump from the lab. Or the many interviews with actual scientists. We deal in facts, and viewers can judge for themselves."
WE DEAL IN FACTS
VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE
https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/1256267931220049920?s=20
And now, the same guy, a year later:
"Glenn Kessler
@GlennKesslerWP
NEW #FactChecker --> Timeline: How the Wuhan lab-leak theory suddenly became credible"
https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/1397166166590767111?s=20
Not a shred of remorse, no apology, not even a Whoops!
WE DEAL IN FACTS
He actually says this in his own piece
"As a reader service, here is a timeline of key events that have led to this reassessment. In some instances, important information was available from the start but was generally ignored. But in other cases, some experts fought against the conventional wisdom and began to build a credible case, rooted in science, that started to change people’s minds. This has led to renewed calls for a real investigation into the lab’s activities before the coronavirus emerged."
I wonder who was "generally ignoring" important information, Mr We-Deal-With-Facts-And-Actual-Scientists?
Villareal 4.4
Draw 3.65
Man U 1.99
Prices via betfair.com
Or both?
But Hancock has been Health Secretary for nearly three years now, nearly half that time under a pandemic, which in political years is decade, so a transfer upwards/sidewards says Cummuings was talking rubbish.
Johnson could always give Williamson the boot and move Hancock to Education, but that's a pure guess on my part, of course.
There are rumours he is to be moved to Education. In a way, that would make sense. That of course piles the pressure on Williamson, the one cabinet minister whose performance under Johnson has been absolutely without any redeeming feature whatsoever.
For that reason as well, I’m not tempted.
Of course, he is a liar, and not very competent, albeit he is more trustworthy and more competent than Cummings. But I’m doubtful about how much pressure he’s under.
https://www.tes.com/news/covid-catch-up-schools-no-plan-dfe-resistant-learning-covid-lessons
I do admire Hancock, he definitely subscribes to David Cameron's view of Cummings, which is shared by many, including Priti Patel.
I also expect Hancock will not be demoted but moved to another important ministry
Mind you, wee Jimmy showed the same thing with poor old Salmond's mangling.
Like watching France versus Wales at rugby. You want them both to lose.
Tory MPs now think Cummings will be back in Downing Street if Sunak becomes PM.
But then I thought - who are they?
Actually, I’m not sure I agree. Surely the one man who still sees him as an asset is the big loser? There must be huge question marks in the mind of every Tory MP about Michael Gove’s judgement.
DCMS would be a demotion though.
Or Northern Ireland.
If Scotland goes independent in the next few years then Brexit will a factor behind that.
Proud Scottish Unionist Gove helped Scotland secede is the stuff that keeps Gove awake at night.
Well, it takes all sorts.
"Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360
That the Covid pandemic could’ve leaked from a lab in Wuhan went from terrible, racist conspiracy theory to plausible overnight for the mainstream media, without a shred of accountability.
If you don’t believe me, look at these stories side-by-side, then vs. now"
"But it wasn’t just NYT. There’s a lot of ammo from @CNN, too.
Not even two months ago, they ran a piece writing off the lab leak theory as “like something out of a comic book.”
Yesterday, the tone had changed, without any reference to their own role in the previous debate."
"For @BBCNews, the lab leak theory went from a conspiracy theory on par with China’s suggestion that the US created the virus to “all hypotheses are on the table” without an ounce of self awareness."
I agree with one of his conclusions
"Instead, because they hated Trump so much, they preferred to trust a lab run by shadowy hostile autocrats who had every incentive to lie (and long history of lying) about something that could turn out to be the most consequential coverup in living memory.
That’s...not good."
Whole thread worth a look. A lesson here
https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1397334751774658562?s=20
Because of the time value of money we're not likely to have ever had a billionaire as PM.
I'm trying to think, relatively speaking, the richest PM we've ever had.
Thatcher was quite wealthy thanks to her husband's business interests.
Going back further it might be the Earl of Derby who was worth £7 million back in the 19th century, which must be worth £500 million in today's money?
White House finalizing plans for Biden to meet with Queen Elizabeth II
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/richest-british-prime-minister
If you want to compare the value of a £7,000,000 0s 0d Commodity in 1869 there are four choices. In 2019 the relative:
real price of that commodity is £651,400,000.00
labour value of that commodity is £4,241,000,000.00
income value of that commodity is £6,152,000,000.00
economic share of that commodity is £15,290,000,000.00
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-sunday-times-rich-list-2017-the-top-10-in-wales-7xt5wdj67
It says 7 million in 1850 is 964 million today, so pretty close!
In Sunderland apparently.
Get that and a Tesla factory, would be very good result.
You've picked out one story where they've chosen to aim towards impariality for a change.
"What tint are your glasses?"
Bojo is an over-promoted lazy **** who is yet to finish a sentence. Cummings and he make a good pair. They're both up their own arses. The same for Salmond and Wee Jimmy.
But The COVID year has shown how basically stupid our press is. Never mind the facts, print a story. Although I had laugh at Peston for mixing up antibodies and antigens. Better to let them think you're stupid than to remove all doubt.
Not many have enhanced their reputations.
Britishvolt said it had bought the 235-acre (95 hectare) Blyth Power Station site and would have "spades in the soil" by the summer.
And potentially one on site of Coventry airport.
Does seem like EV production is really stepping up.
If I were still teaching politics (which I did in a previous life), I could get a whole term's teaching out of it, entitled something like "The Machinery of Government in a Time of Crisis". Tons of material on the PM, ministers, SPADs, the civil service, departments, government agencies etc. etc. Dom covered a vast range of stuff in the seven hours.
I'd then set the following essay: "Assess the strengths and weaknesses of our current political system and the machinery of government for dealing with a crisis like Covid". (Obviously, students would draw on a much wider range of stuff than Dom's tour de force). I'm with Richard Tyndall and others - it was gripping as well as coruscating, and may have more influence on future events than some suspect. Or not, who knows.
It's just the same as when there's a hurricane in Jamaica that makes first or second story on the main bulletin, so the local news programme interviews a woman whose brother lives in Kingston and got slightly wet in it.
One of the big ones is producing battery packs for commercial vehicles and I'm told the government is looking to get a march on Europe in that area so the UK can rebuild commercial vehicle manufacturing.
@BritainElects
Share of voters who trust/do not trust what [X] has to say about the government's handling of the coronavirus crisis:
Boris Johnson
Trust: 38%
Do not trust: 55%
Dominic Cummings
Trust: 14%
Do not trust: 75%
via
@YouGov"
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1397580519731343362
Whatever the truth of his behaviour and actions it will take balls the size of cannonballs for him to face the media.
I have no idea how this will influence our politics largely because Starmer and Labour are not at the races but also Cummings has little creditability with the public
"I predict that the winner of this weeks National Lottery will be either a man or a woman, celebrating a birthday sometime this year"
- sacking the health secretary even at the tail end of a pandemic would be stupid
- It would lead people to ask “why” and take the patina off the success story they have told
Far more likely he gets moved in a post summer reshuffle. Either sideways or a promotion.
But in all seriousness it's about what you'd expect - it's like the Salmond rating, old opponents still don't trust him even if he is attacking a shared enemy, and new opponents who used to be allies will hate him with the fire of a thousand suns.
There, I have said a nice thing about him
Next.
But then, so are most people.