Can someone please tell me where you are getting results? BBC and Sky are hopeless.
There is a good site I use called politicalbetting.com, a few overly obsessed with culture wars or pineapples but otherwise a lovely place and highly recommended.
It's not a results service and I said I'd like something without commentary or trolling
Seriously. Is there no one site in the UK which just gives the bloody results?!!!!!!
Seems not. I, too, would like one.
@britainelects on Twitter is probably the best but even that's just selected results.
Mandelson's deft political touch clearly deserted him a long time ago.
" Lord Mandleson, a former MP for Hartlepool and one of the architects of New Labour, said the party had to embrace “Brexit attitudes” if it wanted to win back voters in places like his old constituency. He said that during the campaign voters did not raise the issue of leaving the EU on the doorstep. But he suggested that “Brexit attitudes” were now more important than class in determining how people voted, and that Labour had to respond."
Such a one-dimensional strategy will just result in the loss of London and many similar places to the Lib Dems and Greens, and the reversal of the small inroads into the wider South Labour is making. Labour has to do something much more subtle and challenging than this - it needs to create a common thread between the two places. The Red Wall seats can't win it for Labour alone, clearly, if they lose large areas of metropolitan Britain, too. If Mandelson is advising Starmer purely on this basis, that doesn't inspire much confidence in Labour's future, to me.
Quite. London will not be voting for a party that has "Brexit attitudes".
FFS.
Forget Brexit, the solution is for Labour to make a fresh new internationalist case from outside the EU. That way, you respect Leave and British independence but, crucially, you can also offer something to the core Labour base that the Tories never will as well - thus taking both sides with you.
This is so fricking obvious yet so few in Labour seem to get it.
They are all too busy on twitter where they are told they are owning the Tories, who are all racists like leave voters and most people will vote for kinder gentler fairer progressive politics in this election as everybody they know is going to.....and look to US, Biden won over Trump, and Boris is just Uk Trump, so that proves it.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
Contra the mood music: Bob & Thelma should be avocado-scoffing metropolitan elitists while Terry would be rooting for good old Boris shagging his way to victory while giving a fake but convincing impression of sticking it to the establishment.
So Labour lefties think that the reason they lost Hartlepool was because they weren't loony lefty enough? And the response to the huge defeat there is to double down on Corbyn policies? If that is the case they are deluded beyond belief. Sorry, Jezziah, but your diagnosis is so, so wrong.
In trying to hold both the metro elite and the working class Labour vote together SKS has an impossible task: you can't take the knee wrapped in the Union flag and please both constituencies; you end up alienating both of them. He needs to choose, as Casino mentioned upthread.
Despite people on the left of centre deriding the "culture war" as non-existent, to me it is very real. I was amazed by last evening's discussion on here that so many people had never experienced the impact of wokeness as work. I work for a large US (East Coast) global corporation and our senior management and HR are obsessed by it - our cooperate intranet is like the BBC home page with article after article on E, D & I. Maybe smaller UK firms have yet to be afflicted by it but if anyone has access to the CIPD magazine you will get an idea what is coming in terms of UK HR - the CIPD has bought into the woke agenda hook, line and sinker.
This stuff is not going away. The people of Hartlepool may not be exposed to it in the workplace (yet) but they can see the way it is affecting popular culture and they don't like it.
For now, the Conservatives have parked their tanks on Labour's lawn when it comes to government spending and Boris is seen as standing up for traditional British values. Labour's only response to government spending is to spend more, which lacks credibility, and it appears to be actively against traditional British values.
So what does Labour do? Is the plan to sit and wait for the Tories to implode (most likely when the COVID spending chickens come home to roost), keep the fragile coalition together and hope that by that time demographics have worked in its favour? It might work but it doesn't really address the fundamental issue of where it stands on the British values question.
Blair won for a reason; when the time came, mainstream Britain was not repelled by Labour. It is now.
I have worked in HR for many years. I am instinctively right of centre politically. Sorry to break it to you, but diversity and inclusion is not about "wokeness", it is about the fact that it has been clearly proven that diverse teams are more innovative, and paradoxically perhaps, more cohesive. Maintaining the team profiles (particularly senior ones) of yesteryear that were dominated by middle aged white men is not in any organisations' interest. Most companies are recognising this, though it is a difficult challenge to address without "positive discrimination" or "affirmative action" (as it is called in the US) which is illegal in this country. One of the ways to challenge it is to promote literature and documentation that promotes the change. Hope that helps!
Excellent post, Nigel. There are valid concerns about woke but my strong sense of the more ardent antiwokerati is they are a motley mix of the plain ignorant and those more knowing who are eminently comfortable with the old hierarchies and affronted by them being challenged.
Indeed. I think part of the challenge for those of us who recognise the benefits of diversity is that it is made harder as a message by people on the woke extreme. That said, today's "PC gone mad" may well be seen by future generations as perfectly normal. Look how perceptions have changed with respect to gay people.
I think that's different. Live and let live for most reasonable people. The woke agenda is not interested in live and let live.
CONFIRMED: Tories win Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner on first round: Con: 74,023 Lab: 39,467 IND: 16,667 LibDem: 6,540
Not the most exciting of elections but still....
I've never had the opportunity to vote for a police and crime commissioner but really couldn't care what party they are a member of. Surely it should be a matter of What is their experience? and Did the incumbent do a good or bad job?
I think they're hindered by novelty and a clunky name. That first time around turnout for these was very low. Its no surprise that its climbing upwards.
Should have gone for "First Crime Lord" or some such.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
Contra the mood music: Bob & Thelma should be avocado-scoffing metropolitan elitists while Terry would be rooting for good old Boris shagging his way to victory while giving a fake but convincing impression of sticking it to the establishment.
Used to love ‘the Lads’ when I were a lad.
Thelma and Margo were the harbingers of Thatcher. From the 1970s perspective, tomorrow belonged to them.
CONFIRMED: Tories win Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner on first round: Con: 74,023 Lab: 39,467 IND: 16,667 LibDem: 6,540
Not the most exciting of elections but still....
I've never had the opportunity to vote for a police and crime commissioner but really couldn't care what party they are a member of. Surely it should be a matter of What is their experience? and Did the incumbent do a good or bad job?
I think they're hindered by novelty and a clunky name. That first time around turnout for these was very low. Its no surprise that its climbing upwards.
Should have gone for "First Crime Lord" or some such.
Can someone please help me here? It's not a difficult question to answer, surely?
Just need a results service I can run in the background whilst I work hence something commentary free preferably.
Bloody hell. Just answer me plllllleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssseeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
I have the TV on, a few website running, and Twitter up. There’s no such thing as an easy life. Shortly I will be taking the dog for a walk and getting my first haircut since November.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
I'm just old enough to get that, but only due to repeats and due to my parents watching it.
I had completely forgotten about The Likely Lads But looking at the dates of the shows, it must have been Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads? that I remember viewing on TV as a kid.
CONFIRMED: Tories win Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner on first round: Con: 74,023 Lab: 39,467 IND: 16,667 LibDem: 6,540
Not the most exciting of elections but still....
I've never had the opportunity to vote for a police and crime commissioner but really couldn't care what party they are a member of. Surely it should be a matter of What is their experience? and Did the incumbent do a good or bad job?
I think they're hindered by novelty and a clunky name. That first time around turnout for these was very low. Its no surprise that its climbing upwards.
Should have gone for "First Crime Lord" or some such.
Today's results - so far - appear to convey a much more mixed message compared with what we saw overnight.
A Government 11 years into governing making gains in midterm local elections?
It is not even a year since the election. Boris's (possibly accidental) genius is to have run as the outsider, against the previous Conservative governments.
Today's results - so far - appear to convey a much more mixed message compared with what we saw overnight.
A Government 11 years into governing making gains in midterm local elections?
Kind of, the coalition and this government are almost political opposites both economically and culturally, with Mays version different again so it is not really the same government for those who arent in the "Loyalist Tories" or "Would never kiss a Tory" tribes.
Today's results - so far - appear to convey a much more mixed message compared with what we saw overnight.
A Government 11 years into governing making gains in midterm local elections?
We have yet to reach midterm. Moreover the Macmillan Tory Government made gains at the local elections of 1960 and 1961. The Tories lost the 1964 election.
Can someone please help me here? It's not a difficult question to answer, surely?
Just need a results service I can run in the background whilst I work hence something commentary free preferably.
Bloody hell. Just answer me plllllleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssseeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
I have the TV on, a few website running, and Twitter up. There’s no such thing as an easy life. Shortly I will be taking the dog for a walk and getting my first haircut since November.
Hmm, can't be easy seeing the screens, never mind where to take the hound.
CONFIRMED: Tories win Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner on first round: Con: 74,023 Lab: 39,467 IND: 16,667 LibDem: 6,540
Not the most exciting of elections but still....
I've never had the opportunity to vote for a police and crime commissioner but really couldn't care what party they are a member of. Surely it should be a matter of What is their experience? and Did the incumbent do a good or bad job?
I think they're hindered by novelty and a clunky name. That first time around turnout for these was very low. Its no surprise that its climbing upwards.
Should have gone for "First Crime Lord" or some such.
Today's results - so far - appear to convey a much more mixed message compared with what we saw overnight.
A Government 11 years into governing making gains in midterm local elections?
It is not even a year since the election. Boris's (possibly accidental) genius is to have run as the outsider, against the previous Conservative governments.
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
So Labour lefties think that the reason they lost Hartlepool was because they weren't loony lefty enough? And the response to the huge defeat there is to double down on Corbyn policies? If that is the case they are deluded beyond belief. Sorry, Jezziah, but your diagnosis is so, so wrong.
In trying to hold both the metro elite and the working class Labour vote together SKS has an impossible task: you can't take the knee wrapped in the Union flag and please both constituencies; you end up alienating both of them. He needs to choose, as Casino mentioned upthread.
Despite people on the left of centre deriding the "culture war" as non-existent, to me it is very real. I was amazed by last evening's discussion on here that so many people had never experienced the impact of wokeness as work. I work for a large US (East Coast) global corporation and our senior management and HR are obsessed by it - our cooperate intranet is like the BBC home page with article after article on E, D & I. Maybe smaller UK firms have yet to be afflicted by it but if anyone has access to the CIPD magazine you will get an idea what is coming in terms of UK HR - the CIPD has bought into the woke agenda hook, line and sinker.
This stuff is not going away. The people of Hartlepool may not be exposed to it in the workplace (yet) but they can see the way it is affecting popular culture and they don't like it.
For now, the Conservatives have parked their tanks on Labour's lawn when it comes to government spending and Boris is seen as standing up for traditional British values. Labour's only response to government spending is to spend more, which lacks credibility, and it appears to be actively against traditional British values.
So what does Labour do? Is the plan to sit and wait for the Tories to implode (most likely when the COVID spending chickens come home to roost), keep the fragile coalition together and hope that by that time demographics have worked in its favour? It might work but it doesn't really address the fundamental issue of where it stands on the British values question.
Blair won for a reason; when the time came, mainstream Britain was not repelled by Labour. It is now.
I have worked in HR for many years. I am instinctively right of centre politically. Sorry to break it to you, but diversity and inclusion is not about "wokeness", it is about the fact that it has been clearly proven that diverse teams are more innovative, and paradoxically perhaps, more cohesive. Maintaining the team profiles (particularly senior ones) of yesteryear that were dominated by middle aged white men is not in any organisations' interest. Most companies are recognising this, though it is a difficult challenge to address without "positive discrimination" or "affirmative action" (as it is called in the US) which is illegal in this country. One of the ways to challenge it is to promote literature and documentation that promotes the change. Hope that helps!
Excellent post, Nigel. There are valid concerns about woke but my strong sense of the more ardent antiwokerati is they are a motley mix of the plain ignorant and those more knowing who are eminently comfortable with the old hierarchies and affronted by them being challenged.
That motley mix is quite a few people ... more than half the country?
Plain ignorant = someone who disagrees with you ;-)
But you make my argument for me with your point about people pushing back when their values and way of life are challenged. Do you think people will accept something that threatens them or that they disagree with? Maybe they will reject these ideas when given the opportunity to express themselves without fear of reprisal ... at the ballot box?
Nothing like half the country are "ardent antiwokerati", thank god! And, yes, it could be that many WWC people are voting as the 1st of those "W"s. They see the Tories as standing up for 'trad' values. They think Labour and the left are obsessed with minorities and women and don't care about class inequality. For me, this is nothing but a Tory talking point and attack line - that the Tories care intensely about devolving wealth & power towards working people is a notion I find ludicrous - but this doesn't mean it isn't swallowed by others. In fact, I fear it's believed quite widely and is a part of what's killing Labour at the ballot box right now.
"@lewis_goodall SNP sources saying they’re on the one hand pleaded with boosted turnout which they think is in their favour but saying they think there’s been significant unionist tactical voting. Let’s see."
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
BBC reporting Swinney is likely to hold on. Hopefully the arithmetic is being done by the product of the education system he has catastrophically presided over.
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
I think a small one this month and a bigger one next month.
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
Logically you’d expect that, with the second doses starting late March
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
I think a small one this month and a bigger one next month.
Swingback gave me a flash back. Rod Cosby ... Was he perma-banned?
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
I think a small one this month and a bigger one next month.
Swingback gave me a flash back. Rod Cosby ... Was he perma-banned?
For once, I don't agree at all here, Horse. A conscious effort to divide the party now would be the end of it, I think. A split might not be a disaster if the left and right parties were willing to work together again at elections, but I struggle to see how that could happen if the split was deliberately acrimonious.
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
When will there be a swingback to first doses ? June ?
I think a small one this month and a bigger one next month.
Swingback gave me a flash back. Rod Cosby ... Was he perma-banned?
Given he was/is an anti-semite and a Holocaust denier, I dare say his ban is permanent, yes.
I'm happy to see this -- I think the previous situation where the Tories could have control of the county council with zero seats in Cambridge city was pretty terrible -- the county govt ought to feel politically motivated to consider the needs of both urban and rural parts of its area. Though balance-of-power is with the three or four indy councillors, so not sure how exactly it'll turn out.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
I'm just old enough to get that, but only due to repeats and due to my parents watching it.
Oh what happened to you? Whatever happened to me? How come we're voting Tory now? How the fuck can this be?
So Labour lefties think that the reason they lost Hartlepool was because they weren't loony lefty enough? And the response to the huge defeat there is to double down on Corbyn policies? If that is the case they are deluded beyond belief. Sorry, Jezziah, but your diagnosis is so, so wrong.
In trying to hold both the metro elite and the working class Labour vote together SKS has an impossible task: you can't take the knee wrapped in the Union flag and please both constituencies; you end up alienating both of them. He needs to choose, as Casino mentioned upthread.
Despite people on the left of centre deriding the "culture war" as non-existent, to me it is very real. I was amazed by last evening's discussion on here that so many people had never experienced the impact of wokeness as work. I work for a large US (East Coast) global corporation and our senior management and HR are obsessed by it - our cooperate intranet is like the BBC home page with article after article on E, D & I. Maybe smaller UK firms have yet to be afflicted by it but if anyone has access to the CIPD magazine you will get an idea what is coming in terms of UK HR - the CIPD has bought into the woke agenda hook, line and sinker.
This stuff is not going away. The people of Hartlepool may not be exposed to it in the workplace (yet) but they can see the way it is affecting popular culture and they don't like it.
For now, the Conservatives have parked their tanks on Labour's lawn when it comes to government spending and Boris is seen as standing up for traditional British values. Labour's only response to government spending is to spend more, which lacks credibility, and it appears to be actively against traditional British values.
So what does Labour do? Is the plan to sit and wait for the Tories to implode (most likely when the COVID spending chickens come home to roost), keep the fragile coalition together and hope that by that time demographics have worked in its favour? It might work but it doesn't really address the fundamental issue of where it stands on the British values question.
Blair won for a reason; when the time came, mainstream Britain was not repelled by Labour. It is now.
I have worked in HR for many years. I am instinctively right of centre politically. Sorry to break it to you, but diversity and inclusion is not about "wokeness", it is about the fact that it has been clearly proven that diverse teams are more innovative, and paradoxically perhaps, more cohesive. Maintaining the team profiles (particularly senior ones) of yesteryear that were dominated by middle aged white men is not in any organisations' interest. Most companies are recognising this, though it is a difficult challenge to address without "positive discrimination" or "affirmative action" (as it is called in the US) which is illegal in this country. One of the ways to challenge it is to promote literature and documentation that promotes the change. Hope that helps!
Excellent post, Nigel. There are valid concerns about woke but my strong sense of the more ardent antiwokerati is they are a motley mix of the plain ignorant and those more knowing who are eminently comfortable with the old hierarchies and affronted by them being challenged.
That motley mix is quite a few people ... more than half the country?
Plain ignorant = someone who disagrees with you ;-)
But you make my argument for me with your point about people pushing back when their values and way of life are challenged. Do you think people will accept something that threatens them or that they disagree with? Maybe they will reject these ideas when given the opportunity to express themselves without fear of reprisal ... at the ballot box?
Nothing like half the country are "ardent antiwokerati", thank god! And, yes, it could be that many WWC people are voting as the 1st of those "W"s. They see the Tories as standing up for 'trad' values. They think Labour and the left are obsessed with minorities and women and don't care about class inequality. For me, this is nothing but a Tory talking point and attack line - that the Tories care intensely about devolving wealth & power towards working people is a notion I find ludicrous - but this doesn't mean it isn't swallowed by others. In fact, I fear it's believed quite widely and is a part of what's killing Labour at the ballot box right now.
One area where we'll disagree, I suspect, is in the definition of "ardent antiwokerati". As the woke agenda over-reaches, as I think it is at the moment, and becomes more uncompromising ("you can't say that") and ruthless ("cancel culture") the number of people in that anti camp is increasing. You can define them as racists or fascists or whatever you want but they are just ordinary folk who are going from mildly irritated by "PC gone mad" to "sh*t this stuff is quite scary and starting to affect my way of life and not in a good way".
Unless the woke movement dials it back, which I think they are incapable of doing, then election results like these are going to continue. So, Labour can either wait for the electorate to catch up with its, ahem, enlightened views or it can change the way it views more than half the country.
Mandelson's deft political touch clearly deserted him a long time ago.
" Lord Mandleson, a former MP for Hartlepool and one of the architects of New Labour, said the party had to embrace “Brexit attitudes” if it wanted to win back voters in places like his old constituency. He said that during the campaign voters did not raise the issue of leaving the EU on the doorstep. But he suggested that “Brexit attitudes” were now more important than class in determining how people voted, and that Labour had to respond."
Such a one-dimensional strategy will just result in the loss of London and many similar places to the Lib Dems and Greens, and the reversal of the small inroads into the wider South Labour is making. Labour has to do something much more subtle and challenging than this - it needs to create a common thread between the two places. The Red Wall seats can't win it for Labour alone, clearly, if they lose large areas of metropolitan Britain, too. If Mandelson is advising Starmer purely on this basis, that doesn't inspire much confidence in Labour's future, to me.
Quite. London will not be voting for a party that has "Brexit attitudes".
FFS.
Forget Brexit, the solution is for Labour to make a fresh new internationalist case from outside the EU. That way, you respect Leave and British independence but, crucially, you can also offer something to the core Labour base that the Tories never will as well - thus taking both sides with you.
This is so fricking obvious yet so few in Labour seem to get it.
Yes, something like that. Expand the new metro base - now THE base - plus win back those of the old base who are winnable back, ie those voting Con out of perceived economic self-interest rather an insular nationalism or nostalgia for an old way of life.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
I'm just old enough to get that, but only due to repeats and due to my parents watching it.
Oh what happened to you? Whatever happened to me? How come we're voting Tory now? How the fuck can this be?
Labour need to turn around to its comfortably off middle class inner city elite base and say the following.
YOu f8ckers have never had it so good.
Sorry, but we will have to take you away from the front of the queue for a while.
The alternative is tory hegemony, and let me tell you ladies, that in that case Brexit is just the start. The tories will take the whole public sector/third sector/commentariat/media/legal sector/race industry gravy boat away and leave you with nothing.
So suck it up while we embrace brexit and get some working class votes back. Where else are you going to go?
Their share of the vote is down and hopefully that presages better things on the list votes but Perthshire North was the closest thing to a marginal seat to date and the swing to the Tories was absolutely miniscule there. Can't see them losing many constituencies on that basis.
Mandelson's deft political touch clearly deserted him a long time ago.
" Lord Mandleson, a former MP for Hartlepool and one of the architects of New Labour, said the party had to embrace “Brexit attitudes” if it wanted to win back voters in places like his old constituency. He said that during the campaign voters did not raise the issue of leaving the EU on the doorstep. But he suggested that “Brexit attitudes” were now more important than class in determining how people voted, and that Labour had to respond."
Such a one-dimensional strategy will just result in the loss of London and many similar places to the Lib Dems and Greens, and the reversal of the small inroads into the wider South Labour is making. Labour has to do something much more subtle and challenging than this - it needs to create a common thread between the two places. The Red Wall seats can't win it for Labour alone, clearly, if they lose large areas of metropolitan Britain, too. If Mandelson is advising Starmer purely on this basis, that doesn't inspire much confidence in Labour's future, to me.
Quite. London will not be voting for a party that has "Brexit attitudes".
FFS.
If you interpret it as a "can do attitude" as opposed to an "EU/WTO/computer says no attitude" then it's universally applicable.
Well yes, I suppose. A "can do attitude" is right up there with a comfortable pillow and a good night's sleep. Images of those mass outdoor union meetings that used to happen to sanction strike action back at Longbridge in the 70s. All those in favour say Aye ... AYE!
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
I'm just old enough to get that, but only due to repeats and due to my parents watching it.
Oh what happened to you? Whatever happened to me? How come we're voting Tory now? How the fuck can this be?
Labour need to turn around to its comfortably off middle class inner city elite base and say the following.
YOu f8ckers have never had it so good.
Sorry, but we will have to take you away from the front of the queue for a while.
The alternative is tory hegemony, and let me tell you ladies, that in that case Brexit is just the start. The tories will take the whole public sector/third sector/commentariat/media/legal sector/race industry gravy boat away and leave you with nothing.
So suck it up while we embrace brexit and get some working class votes back. Where else are you going to go?
The Greens and LibDems. That's the problem with this zero-sum approach. In an earlier period of realignment, in the mid to late 'nineties, the Lib Dems were, broadly, a less metropolitan party, and the Greens were negligible.
Third labour loss in Durham. 1 seat to Lib Dem’s in Aycliffe north. It’s odd how the seats closer to Hartlepool are relatively good for labour.
What I found interesting that the urban core of Blyth and Ashington (in Northumberland) is still solidly Labour. It's the outskirts where the Persimmon new-builds are aplenty where the Tory vote is the strongest, like @Philip_Thompson says.
So, Bob has gone blue but Terry stays red?
I'm just old enough to get that, but only due to repeats and due to my parents watching it.
Oh what happened to you? Whatever happened to me? How come we're voting Tory now? How the fuck can this be?
Labour need to turn around to its comfortably off middle class inner city elite base and say the following.
YOu f8ckers have never had it so good.
Sorry, but we will have to take you away from the front of the queue for a while.
The alternative is tory hegemony, and let me tell you ladies, that in that case Brexit is just the start. The tories will take the whole public sector/third sector/commentariat/media/legal sector/race industry gravy boat away and leave you with nothing.
So suck it up while we embrace brexit and get some working class votes back. Where else are you going to go?
Yes that will go down well to those millions of city dwellers who need to find 15-20x earnings to buy a 3 bed flat and arent lucky enough to get council flats so end up sharing houses with strangers and delaying things like getting married or having kids. Never had it so good!
Kieran Andrews @KieranPAndrews · 21m Conservatives very concerned about most of the constituencies they hold. "Tactical FPTP seems to only work Tory to other unionists not other unionist to Tory," says a source
Joanne Marie Anderson, LAB - 38,958 Stephen Barry Loy Yip, IND - 22,047 Richard Kemp, LD - 17,166 Tom Crone, GREEN - 8,768 Steve Radford, LIB - 7,135 Katie Maria Burgess, CON - 4,187 Roger Bannister, TUSC - 2,912
Conservatives very concerned about most of the constituencies they hold. "Tactical FPTP seems to only work Tory to other unionists not other unionist to Tory," says a source
FPTP biting the prime proponents of FPTP in the eirse is the sort of high-quality content I'm here for.
One of the comments I think sums up accurately Biden's position on this - it is mostly virtue-signaling. The hint is in the reference to the need for negotiation at the WTO.
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Sorry to nag. Just needed raw results feed.
Many thanks
Used to love ‘the Lads’ when I were a lad.
We are 11 years into Tory run government, they should be getting mullered.
Thelma and Margo were the harbingers of Thatcher. From the 1970s perspective, tomorrow belonged to them.
Boris brought the last two Prime Ministers down.
If replicated across the country, Cowdenbeath and Rutherglen would both be LAB gains from SNP.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1390652375208271879?s=20
The SNP will be worried" about the amount of tactical voting here.
https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1390651816522752000
England 101,594 1st doses / 419,232 2nd doses
Scotland 15,998 / 23,912
Wales 11,626 / 16,118
NI 6,252 / 13,739"
Interesting for Airdrie and Shotts in a week too.
Con: 35.7% (+15.2)
Lab: 30.6% (-6.2)
Ind: 11.7% (+3.7)
IndGrp: 8.1% (+8.1)
LDem: 7.5% (-2.0)
Grn: 6.4% (+6.4)
Con GAIN from Lab
England 101,594 1st doses / 419,232 2nd doses
Scotland 15,998 / 23,912
Wales 11,626 / 16,118
NI 6,252 / 13,739
https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1390653435394002947
Not bad I think, but we want Novavax! Seriously though, I would really quite like to be vaccinated now (33 year old). I keep telling myself patience is a virtue...
SNP sources saying they’re on the one hand pleaded with boosted turnout which they think is in their favour but saying they think there’s been significant unionist tactical voting. Let’s see."
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1390654324536193025
That is a surprise.
@Big_G_NorthWales seat I think.
This is what must happen.
Con: 44.4% (-3.2)
Lab: 38.8% (+14.0)
LDem: 11.5% (+5.2)
Grn: 5.3% (-4.1)
No Ind (-11.9) as prev.
Con HOLD
Labour did better there
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/06/waiving-ip
https://twitter.com/radioclydenews/status/1390646345728409600?s=21
Wrexham Council
@wrexhamcbc
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Turnout for the Clwyd South Senedd election has been confirmed as 59%.
@wrexhamcbc
Turnout for the Wrexham Senedd election has been confirmed as 43%.
2:05 PM · May 7, 2021·Orlo
And this is where Labour must look to now.
Someone’s punted £600 @4/1 on snp<60 seats
I’m on this bet at higher odds.
The "love" salute as they all click their heels together is particularly disturbing.
Oh what happened to you? Whatever happened to me?
How come we're voting Tory now?
How the fuck can this be?
LAB: 14 (-5)
CON: 8 (+5)
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1390657713269510146?s=20
(Actually, that's been true for ages in the city.)
Unless the woke movement dials it back, which I think they are incapable of doing, then election results like these are going to continue. So, Labour can either wait for the electorate to catch up with its, ahem, enlightened views or it can change the way it views more than half the country.
Sweeney 49.5%
Fraser 39.4%
Not much change. Both up +0.something%
@wrexhamcbc
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@wrexhamcbc
Apologies - the turnout for Clwyd South was 44% (not 59%).
Everyone ran away screaming when it became clear that with the drug IP, they were going to hand over all the legal responsibilities as well...
https://twitter.com/kieranpandrews/status/1390657447266750466?s=21
Con: 41.2% (+7.1)
LDem: 33.0% (-10.3)
Lab: 15.0% (+3.2)
Grn: 10.8% (+6.7)
Con GAIN from LDem
YOu f8ckers have never had it so good.
Sorry, but we will have to take you away from the front of the queue for a while.
The alternative is tory hegemony, and let me tell you ladies, that in that case Brexit is just the start. The tories will take the whole public sector/third sector/commentariat/media/legal sector/race industry gravy boat away and leave you with nothing.
So suck it up while we embrace brexit and get some working class votes back. Where else are you going to go?
https://twitter.com/indy_swim/status/1390660322277699589?s=21
SNP +3.8
Lab -4.6
@KieranPAndrews
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Conservatives very concerned about most of the constituencies they hold. "Tactical FPTP seems to only work Tory to other unionists not other unionist to Tory," says a source
Round 1
Joanne Marie Anderson, LAB - 38,958
Stephen Barry Loy Yip, IND - 22,047
Richard Kemp, LD - 17,166
Tom Crone, GREEN - 8,768
Steve Radford, LIB - 7,135
Katie Maria Burgess, CON - 4,187
Roger Bannister, TUSC - 2,912
Second round between Labour and the Independent