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edited April 2021 in General
Some important breaking news for those betting on the Mayor of London – politicalbetting.com

FOX & TICE: Delighted to announce that ?@reformparty_uk? and ?@thereclaimparty? have formed pact: we are endorsing Laurence for Mayor and Laurence is endorsing our candidates for the London Assembly on May 6th pic.twitter.com/iChBXncw2i

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  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    Still don't understand why RefUK didn't run a candidate, but since they didn't this is a logical move. Might gain him a % or two. Still not going to save his deposit.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,559
    EXC - Electoral Commission statement confirms “discussions” over potential donations connected with the refurb of Boris Johnson’s flat

    We reveal Cabinet Secretary Simon Case now overseeing the issue https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1385305236726759427
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,558
    An old university contemporary of mine who was a Tory activist has defected to Reform UK and is standing for them for the London Assembly. He was out campaigning with Lawrence Fox today so this news is no surprise
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    I was surprised Fox didn't join Farage's Party in the first place.

    Maybe just didn't want to share the limelight.

    However both parties were chasing the same tiny number of cranks, so this doesn't change anything ultimately.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,568
    CarlottaVance said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies’ West Midlands Mayoral Election voting intention poll finds incumbent Conservative candidate Andy Street leading over Labour and Co-Operative candidate Liam Byrne by 9%. Altogether, our voting intention results are as follows:

    Andy Street (Conservative) 46%

    Liam Byrne (Labour and Co-Operative) 37%

    Jenny Wilkinson (Liberal Democrats) 6%

    Steve Caudwell (Green) 5%

    Pete Durnell (Reform UK) 4%

    Other 3%

    https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/west-midlands-mayoral-election-voting-intention-18-21-april-2021/

    Liam Byrne may be about to slip a little further behind.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,606
    Sixth, like Gammons
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,558
    Farage also endorsed Fox today

    https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1385232357075136515?s=20
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    So you're saying that Reform UK's Fox is shot?
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,983
    edited April 2021
    We all knew that there would be important political developments the moment OGH went away on holiday.

    Was this it?
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,337
    The Gammons must be gutted.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    I am sure in the years to come we will all remember what we were doing when this bombshell tectonic plate shifting announcement was made....
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,559
    The Treasury has decided NOT to publish Cameron’s texts to Rishi Sunak or Tom Scholar (top HMT civil servant) on Greensill.

    They argue Cameron had an ‘expectation of confidence’ so texts are outside of FOI rules. The public instead get below’s blacked out box. https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1385313152754241539/photo/1
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Philip_Thompson said:

    I was surprised Fox didn't join Farage's Party in the first place.

    Maybe just didn't want to share the limelight.

    However both parties were chasing the same tiny number of cranks, so this doesn't change anything ultimately.

    I must say I am in favour of crank parties being there to collect the crank vote (and, in fairness, the irrelevant parties, since not all of them are cranks) - what I object to is when, even after results, they act as though they still represent a mass movement.

    I think it was Caroline Lucas banging on about the choice of the people or some such in 2015 that crystallised that for me. Whatever the flaws of our FPTP system you cannot just assume the democratic mantle of the mob if the mob is voting for the big two. At least Farage used to be able to claim a large amount of backing.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,863
    Continuing the discussion about penis waving on the previous thread, this could be summarised as ‘Laurence Fox with Dick.’
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Have to admit I had assumed that with several of the mayoralties being pretty darn close last time that the Tories would not hold onto the ones they squeaked last time, but seemingly the news looks positive for them. And while it is amazing how little chance the Tories have in London considering they held it less than a decade ago, Khan's victory over Fox (and some novelty candidates like Corbyn and Bailey) can only fill up so much airtime.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    I am sure in the years to come we will all remember what we were doing when this bombshell tectonic plate shifting announcement was made....

    It has become a good day to bury bad news, for sure.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Practically irrelevant small parties pool activists with aim of losing by slightly less. This is kind of like an anti-matter version of the Remain Alliance, but far more puny.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,863
    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I believe it.

    It's people who have some decorum who are the best at truly shocking people when they cut loose, rather than everyday hedonists and shockjocks.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,863
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I believe it.

    It's people who have some decorum who are the best at truly shocking people when they cut loose, rather than everyday hedonists and shockjocks.
    It gives a whole new meaning to the expression ‘this candidate is taking the piss.’
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    These awful puns deserve the chop.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,863
    Black_Rook said:

    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    These awful puns deserve the chop.
    Can’t I pun if I want to after a hard days work? You’d have to be a pig to stop me,
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    Indeed, they are pork quality candidates.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    ydoethur said:

    Black_Rook said:

    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    These awful puns deserve the chop.
    Can’t I pun if I want to after a hard days work? You’d have to be a pig to stop me,
    Oink.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    ydoethur said:

    Black_Rook said:

    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    These awful puns deserve the chop.
    Can’t I pun if I want to after a hard days work? You’d have to be a pig to stop me,
    Fine, but at least stop butchering the de-liver-y.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Endillion said:

    ydoethur said:

    Black_Rook said:

    ydoethur said:

    ThomasNashe said:

    The Gammons must be gutted.

    The pretence that they haven’t been working towards this for ages shows they’re both terrible hams.
    These awful puns deserve the chop.
    Can’t I pun if I want to after a hard days work? You’d have to be a pig to stop me,
    Fine, but at least stop butchering the de-liver-y.
    Careful! The knives'll be out for you'n'all.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,111
    The Fox And Tice sounds like ye olde quaint English country pub.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    edited April 2021
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I believe it.

    It's people who have some decorum who are the best at truly shocking people when they cut loose, rather than everyday hedonists and shockjocks.
    This is why my friends hate me, I'm a very polite person, who seldom swears, and when I do swear it is a mild word like bollocks.

    So when they introduce me to their parents/partners etc they always say what a polite well mannered person I am, and why can't their kids/partners be more like me.

    Me, the guy who knows every entry on urban dictionary, can recite Cattulus 16, or tells a very rude joke often, or drops a blatant innuendo all the time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,863
    edited April 2021
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    Perhaps he was re-enacting the travails of early Spanish explorers like Magellan?

    Edit - yes, before anyone mentions it, I know Magellan was Portuguese, but his expedition was Spanish and run on Spanish lines.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    I was sufficiently interested to Google the chap and try to find out what you meant.

    Unless I'm missing something then it seems that you don't have a particularly strong stomach. Well, not as strong as Mr Rose's, anyway.

    I was expecting a dungeon to be involved - minimum.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Nah, this is London.

    But they do have the advantage of a useless Tory candidate in London and still polling circa 1%.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Isn't the main reason because Farage was banking on anti-lockdown sentiment driving support from disaffected Conservatives, and most people support harsh lockdown measures and those that don't are fractured into a dozen squabbling factions? And that while lots of people dislike what might be called excessive or pushy wokery, that is not something you can build a mass movement around? (like how green issues is not enough, as any party can go green, so Greens also go red)
  • eekeek Posts: 30,917
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I believe it.

    It's people who have some decorum who are the best at truly shocking people when they cut loose, rather than everyday hedonists and shockjocks.
    This is why my friends hate me, I'm a very polite person, who seldom swears, and when I do swear it is a mild word like bollocks.

    So when they introduce me to their parents/partners etc they always say what a polite well mannered person I am, and why can't their kids/partners be more like me.

    Me, the guy who knows every entry on urban dictionary, can recite Cattulus 16, or tells a very rude joke often, or drops a blatant innuendo all the time.
    When asked if I swear my favourite response is to tell them to fluff off
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I believe it.

    It's people who have some decorum who are the best at truly shocking people when they cut loose, rather than everyday hedonists and shockjocks.
    This is why my friends hate me, I'm a very polite person, who seldom swears, and when I do swear it is a mild word like bollocks.

    So when they introduce me to their parents/partners etc they always say what a polite well mannered person I am, and why can't their kids/partners be more like me.

    Me, the guy who knows every entry on urban dictionary, can recite Cattulus 16, or tells a very rude joke often, or drops a blatant innuendo all the time.
    When asked if I swear my favourite response is to tell them to fluff off
    Ah, I tell them to fornicate/coitus off.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Nah, this is London.

    But they do have the advantage of a useless Tory candidate in London and still polling circa 1%.
    Sorry, I meant nationally (not in London) - I should have been clearer.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    kle4 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Isn't the main reason because Farage was banking on anti-lockdown sentiment driving support from disaffected Conservatives, and most people support harsh lockdown measures and those that don't are fractured into a dozen squabbling factions? And that while lots of people dislike what might be called excessive or pushy wokery, that is not something you can build a mass movement around? (like how green issues is not enough, as any party can go green, so Greens also go red)
    Interestingly, it's the Lib Dems who've been most able to capitalise on the anti-lockdown sentiment.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    I was sufficiently interested to Google the chap and try to find out what you meant.

    Unless I'm missing something then it seems that you don't have a particularly strong stomach. Well, not as strong as Mr Rose's, anyway.

    I was expecting a dungeon to be involved - minimum.
    Honestly it brought back memories of Mark Oaten's depravity.

    Things I try and repress.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    kle4 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Isn't the main reason because Farage was banking on anti-lockdown sentiment driving support from disaffected Conservatives, and most people support harsh lockdown measures and those that don't are fractured into a dozen squabbling factions? And that while lots of people dislike what might be called excessive or pushy wokery, that is not something you can build a mass movement around? (like how green issues is not enough, as any party can go green, so Greens also go red)
    Above all, Europe was the primary driver for a separate populist right movement. Once (a) Brexit happened and (b) the Tories made up their mind to own it, the game was up.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,558
    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    True as far as Boris being anti woke, not true in the sense that Boris is pro lockdown and Fox and Reform are anti lockdown.

    Indeed on the latest Yougov 5% of 2019 Tory voters now back ReformUK, more than the 3% of 2019 Tory voters who now back Labour

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/x3uculd6mi/TheTimes_Voting_Intention_Track_210414_W.pdf
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    edited April 2021
    Casino_Royale said:

    kle4 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Isn't the main reason because Farage was banking on anti-lockdown sentiment driving support from disaffected Conservatives, and most people support harsh lockdown measures and those that don't are fractured into a dozen squabbling factions? And that while lots of people dislike what might be called excessive or pushy wokery, that is not something you can build a mass movement around? (like how green issues is not enough, as any party can go green, so Greens also go red)
    Interestingly, it's the Lib Dems who've been most able to capitalise on the anti-lockdown sentiment.
    It is just about possible that Ed Davey actually knows the meaning of the word "liberal".

    That would come as a nasty shock to their hordes (OK not "hordes", more like "both") of their remaining voters, who think they're supposed to be basically Labour-lite.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    ydoethur said:

    Continuing the discussion about penis waving on the previous thread, this could be summarised as ‘Laurence Fox with Dick.’

    Fox and Farage and Trump and Johnson surely like waving theirs about freely and frequently.

    But seems Brian Rose is only front-line politico wiling to (publicly) imbibe the primary product of his own pride & joy.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Do you think that Ted Nugent is gonna make a special appeal on behalf of Fox? Would be timely!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Comedy Truss. Notice the seats:

    https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1385303377597374464?s=20
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Jesus. I've just seen that Rose video.

    I presumed it was a joke.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    Casino_Royale said:

    Jesus. I've just seen that Rose video.

    I presumed it was a joke.

    What isn't a joke is the million quid he got from his last grift. He has managed somehow to build a weird cult.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    Casino_Royale said:

    Jesus. I've just seen that Rose video.

    I presumed it was a joke.

    I told you!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,940
    "AstraZeneca blood clots linked to 32 deaths after over 21million jabs

    The MHRAs maintain that the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine continue to outweigh the risks"

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/mhra-astrazeneca-oxford-university-of-bristol-b931224.html
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    I was sufficiently interested to Google the chap and try to find out what you meant.

    Unless I'm missing something then it seems that you don't have a particularly strong stomach. Well, not as strong as Mr Rose's, anyway.

    I was expecting a dungeon to be involved - minimum.
    Honestly it brought back memories of Mark Oaten's depravity.

    Things I try and repress.
    Rent boys. Yawn.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Endillion said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    kle4 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    Isn't the main reason because Farage was banking on anti-lockdown sentiment driving support from disaffected Conservatives, and most people support harsh lockdown measures and those that don't are fractured into a dozen squabbling factions? And that while lots of people dislike what might be called excessive or pushy wokery, that is not something you can build a mass movement around? (like how green issues is not enough, as any party can go green, so Greens also go red)
    Interestingly, it's the Lib Dems who've been most able to capitalise on the anti-lockdown sentiment.
    It is just about possible that Ed Davey actually knows the meaning of the word "liberal".

    That would come as a nasty shock to their hordes (OK not "hordes", more like "both") of their remaining voters, who think they're supposed to be basically Labour-lite.
    It took him long enough. They still have a way to go, though.

    They're still adopting unliberal positions on a number of issues, IMHO.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,109
    Did I just wake up and Lawrence Fox was being spoken of as a potential MP. Which Universe am I in?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    I was sufficiently interested to Google the chap and try to find out what you meant.

    Unless I'm missing something then it seems that you don't have a particularly strong stomach. Well, not as strong as Mr Rose's, anyway.

    I was expecting a dungeon to be involved - minimum.
    Honestly it brought back memories of Mark Oaten's depravity.

    Things I try and repress.
    Rent boys. Yawn.
    No, it was what he did to them that was disgusting.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    HYUFD said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    The reason why Fox / Reform / Reclaim aren't making any headway is because Johnson has stolen their clothes.

    If, rather than being anti-woke, this administration pursued social-policy along the lines Cameron did then they'd be up to 10-12% in the polls.

    True as far as Boris being anti woke, not true in the sense that Boris is pro lockdown and Fox and Reform are anti lockdown.

    Indeed on the latest Yougov 5% of 2019 Tory voters now back ReformUK, more than the 3% of 2019 Tory voters who now back Labour

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/x3uculd6mi/TheTimes_Voting_Intention_Track_210414_W.pdf
    A non-party. A void.

    If it didn't exist, the same people would probably decide to back some other NOTA choice.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,606
    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    For some reason when I saw the headline about important breaking news about the London mayoralty I assumed it was going to be about Brian Rose and urine.

    But there's some solid deadpan sass nevertheless.

    I saw that earlier and nearly barfed.

    I wasn't going to inflict that on PBers, I do have some decorum, believe it or not.
    I've arrived late to this story. Does it involve PVC and rubber hoses?
    No, you don't want to know, even I'm puking at such depravity.
    I was sufficiently interested to Google the chap and try to find out what you meant.

    Unless I'm missing something then it seems that you don't have a particularly strong stomach. Well, not as strong as Mr Rose's, anyway.

    I was expecting a dungeon to be involved - minimum.
    Honestly it brought back memories of Mark Oaten's depravity.

    Things I try and repress.
    Rent boys. Yawn.
    No, it was what he did to them that was disgusting.
    I don't quite recall the details - all that naughtiness was reported many years ago.

    It didn't involve cling film, did it?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,693
    *master of the spoken word*

    https://twitter.com/winstoncproject/status/1385274568378617866?s=21
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Buried in the news, but I note Putin has now pulled his troops back from the Ukrainian border now he's got a bit of attention.

    What games. What japes.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    The Russians will claim they have already developed an effective vaccine for it in about 10 mins time.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Variants most likely to crop up in places where the Plague is running riot, just as predicted.

    We can forget any official figures the Russians dole out for Covid fatalities. The excess deaths tell the true story. The country's a charnel house.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,606
    The investment strategy for this summer should surely be safely first.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,244
    Lozza for Parliament?

    More hadaway and shite than Hathaway and Lewis.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    That sounds distinctly worse than if, say, a new Costa del Sol variant had been identified.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,273
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,507
    Also on that, there's a fairly reasonable chance that SoftBank will opt to float ARM back on the LSE if it can't be sold to Nvidia. At its expected list value they'd be stupid not to.

    I honestly think that by the end of next year we may end up with a really different looking FTSE100 with tech companies making up a much bigger proportion of it.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    They make chips.

    Although from the name you would be forgiven for thinking they give you cancer.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,507
    edited April 2021
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    Chip design. Forgot to mention, as part of it they're also moving their global HQ to the UK from Canada.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,093
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    My sister and family had a week in Mallorca booked for July. Tui cancelled that themselves this week and gave her a refund.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Endillion said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    They make chips.

    Although from the name you would be forgiven for thinking they give you cancer.
    So do McCain but they're not a tech firm.

    I'll get my coat.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    MaxPB said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    Chip design. Forgot to mention, as part of it they're also moving their global HQ to the UK from Canada.
    Well nobody wants to live in the snowy wasteland of Canada if they can help it ;-)
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    edited April 2021
    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    My sister and family had a week in Mallorca booked for July. Tui cancelled that themselves this week and gave her a refund.
    Desperately hoping that they can justify opening air bridges with some of these destinations later in the Summer. Not much chance of that in most cases, and certainly not any of the big ones.

    Malta and Israel don't have room for about fourteen million beached whales. A lot of folk who are simply desperate to get sunburnt are going to have to make do with Bournemouth this year.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,606
    Black_Rook said:

    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    My sister and family had a week in Mallorca booked for July. Tui cancelled that themselves this week and gave her a refund.
    Desperately hoping that they can justify opening air bridges with some of these destinations later in the Summer. Not much chance of that in most cases, and certainly not any of the big ones.

    Malta and Israel don't have room for about fourteen million beached whales. A lot of folk who are simply desperate to get sunburnt are going to have to make do with Bournemouth this year.
    Holiday central here already, and it’s only April. When the hotels and restaurants open it will be busier still.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Bloody hell

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1385310246244163588

    India report by BBC
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,392
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    Chip design. Forgot to mention, as part of it they're also moving their global HQ to the UK from Canada.
    Well nobody wants to live in the snowy wasteland of Canada if they can help it ;-)
    My eldest son and his wife may disagree
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,392
    Floater said:

    Bloody hell

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1385310246244163588

    India report by BBC

    That is utterly desperate and upsetting
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Casino_Royale said:

    Buried in the news, but I note Putin has now pulled his troops back from the Ukrainian border now he's got a bit of attention.

    What games. What japes.

    Lets hope so, but something similar occurred in 2014
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alphawave to list in London and open up a Cambridge based research centre. Big win for the City and the UK in general.

    I think London is finally breaking into the tech sector. Far from being left behind it does feel like London is about consolidate its position as the European financial hub.

    Expect a lot of tears from bitter EU types over the next year as tech company after tech company opts for London. I know from an investor perspective it's a really exciting time looking ahead to fast growing tech companies listing here.

    I have no idea what they do?
    Chip design. Forgot to mention, as part of it they're also moving their global HQ to the UK from Canada.
    Well nobody wants to live in the snowy wasteland of Canada if they can help it ;-)
    My eldest son and his wife may disagree
    I am obviously joking...absolutely love Canada. Is easily the country I have spent the most amount of time in besides the UK. I normally visit pretty much every year.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    Depends on location. There are lots of countries in the world where prevalence is very low. So a blanket ban doesn’t make much sense: for example parts of the Caribbean are almost covid free, ditto Israel.
  • LennonLennon Posts: 1,823
    edited April 2021
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    What's the average age in Nigeria though - I'm betting a fair bit younger than even India let alone anywhere Western.

    Edit: Answering my own question. Nigeria population pyramind: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nigeria_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png/350px-Nigeria_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png

    India population pyramid: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/India_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png/350px-India_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    edited April 2021
    squareroot2 said:

    Did I just wake up and Lawrence Fox was being spoken of as a potential MP. Which Universe am I in?

    The TSEverse.

    Though the word 'seriously' was absent before 'spoken', it is still a wild ride.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    Lennon said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    What's the average age in Nigeria though - I'm betting a fair bit younger than even India let alone anywhere Western.

    Edit: Answering my own question. Nigeria population pyramind: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nigeria_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png/350px-Nigeria_single_age_population_pyramid_2020.png
    We heard a similar argument about india and South Africa, where its mid 20s. Which is more than Nigeria, but still very young by Western levels...then the tsaumni hit.

    I have no idea what is going on Nigeria.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Husband of Allegra Stratton suggesting the Government might have found a solution to social care here:

    "The best solution, however, may be to require the over-40s to buy compulsory social care insurance. The premiums could be deducted directly from their monthly salaries in the same way that student loan repayments are taken off young graduates’ wages."

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-the-tories-can-solve-their-youth-problem-7lsx5zc53
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    IanB2 said:

    Black_Rook said:

    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    My sister and family had a week in Mallorca booked for July. Tui cancelled that themselves this week and gave her a refund.
    Desperately hoping that they can justify opening air bridges with some of these destinations later in the Summer. Not much chance of that in most cases, and certainly not any of the big ones.

    Malta and Israel don't have room for about fourteen million beached whales. A lot of folk who are simply desperate to get sunburnt are going to have to make do with Bournemouth this year.
    Holiday central here already, and it’s only April. When the hotels and restaurants open it will be busier still.
    What are the rules for fully vaccinated Brits visiting the UK from the US? Hoping to come see family in Cornwall this spring.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,267
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    I can forgive the Govt. for a lot of mistakes, but this very much seems like one where there can be no forgiveness. It's madness.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,606
    TimT said:

    IanB2 said:

    Black_Rook said:

    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Six hospitals in the Indian capital Delhi have completely run out of oxygen and doctors say other hospitals have just a few hours' worth of supply left.

    Those cricket matches from a few weeks ago with 60k fans seem a lifetime away.

    The Indians won't need all those vaccines, they are going to hit herd immunity sometime next week.
    I think we can put to bed the theories of countries where due to over crowding people more resistant to lots of things.

    Nigeria is the country that still stands out. Even if we take it as given they aren't really testing, no reports of any sort of melt down of the health system.
    IanB2 said:

    Breaking: new ‘Siberian’ coronavirus variant identified in Russia

    Yet our government is planning to allow summer holidays to at least 30 countries.

    Just how bloody incompetent is this government?
    Its insanity...and of course they keep doing this showing a bit of leg over summer hols, then delaying decisions....they should have said months ago, sorry no foreign holidays this summer, end of.

    Politically its also dumb, as if they do cancel them, people will be even more pissed off.
    My sister and family had a week in Mallorca booked for July. Tui cancelled that themselves this week and gave her a refund.
    Desperately hoping that they can justify opening air bridges with some of these destinations later in the Summer. Not much chance of that in most cases, and certainly not any of the big ones.

    Malta and Israel don't have room for about fourteen million beached whales. A lot of folk who are simply desperate to get sunburnt are going to have to make do with Bournemouth this year.
    Holiday central here already, and it’s only April. When the hotels and restaurants open it will be busier still.
    What are the rules for fully vaccinated Brits visiting the UK from the US? Hoping to come see family in Cornwall this spring.
    Hasn’t the US just banned travel to the UK?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,093
    Floater said:

    Bloody hell

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1385310246244163588

    India report by BBC

    Could this do for Modi?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,810
    edited April 2021
    Casino_Royale said:

    Husband of Allegra Stratton suggesting the Government might have found a solution to social care here:

    "The best solution, however, may be to require the over-40s to buy compulsory social care insurance. The premiums could be deducted directly from their monthly salaries in the same way that student loan repayments are taken off young graduates’ wages."

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-the-tories-can-solve-their-youth-problem-7lsx5zc53

    Somebody who is around 40 is going to be right pissed off, they will be the ones who have significant student loans and then this.
  • PoodleInASlipstreamPoodleInASlipstream Posts: 457
    Floater said:

    Bloody hell

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1385310246244163588

    India report by BBC

    That was quite upsetting to watch. Terrible, truly terrible.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
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    Casino_Royale said:

    Husband of Allegra Stratton suggesting the Government might have found a solution to social care here:

    "The best solution, however, may be to require the over-40s to buy compulsory social care insurance. The premiums could be deducted directly from their monthly salaries in the same way that student loan repayments are taken off young graduates’ wages."

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-the-tories-can-solve-their-youth-problem-7lsx5zc53

    LOL I think we said a year or two ago something like this would be introduced when we turn 40.

    Tuition fees introduced when we become students. Now care insurance introduced when we turn 40.

    No doubt when Millenials come around to retirement then it will be a case of abolishing pensions.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,088
    Floater said:

    Bloody hell

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1385310246244163588

    India report by BBC

    That's upsetting. It shows what could have happened had the NHS been overwhelmed.
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