Gallup, the pioneer of modern political polling, has produced its final approval ratings on Trump which have him ending his term on a record low for any President. His 41% average approval rating throughout his presidency is 4% lower than for any of his predecessors.
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Trump also had an 88% average approval rating from Republicans, the joint highest average rating from Republican voters for any President from their own party when in office along with Eisenhower
https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/last-trump-job-approval-average-record-low.aspx
He's the right-wing Corbyn that won. If the underlying causes aren't addressed someone like him will emerge again in the future.
Spoiler: I don't expect the underlying causes to be addressed.
https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1351468933233201155?s=19
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1351302000240160768
I guess Johann Lamont is an honourable exception since she actually stated that SLab was treated like a branch office of the London party.
https://twitter.com/stvnews/status/1351448912050204674?s=21
Not that I would vote for Trump but I can easily see a Trump lite candidate winning the 2024 Republican Candidacy.
They genuinely believe something will happen to keep Trump as POTUS after tomorrow.
https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/19/gritstone-covid19-vaccines-trials/
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1351492582468165632?s=20
The only bright spark is potentially a bit more peace in the Middle East with countries beginning to recognise Israel officially and sign peace accords (though realistically the ones who have haven't been fighting for decades anyway so how meaningful a change it is I'm not sure, its still a positive).
Other than that, a dreadful POTUS from start to finish. Second worst after Andrew Jackson in my opinion, though even Jackson had some positives so possibly the worst ever. Definitely worse than Buchanan.
Even the BMJ attacked him yesterday
The next Senedd will be interesting but time for labour to be kicked out of Office
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1351303022652100614?s=20
The political temptation for them to do so - or the very least "work to rule", making very little effort - and blaming it all on Westminster, so to reap the rewards in May, must be overwhelming
It's well above the 3% of Americans who believe they've been abducted by aliens that I use as a benchmark for the lunatic fringe.
Massive increase in US energy production becoming the largest oil producer in the world and a major exporter of LNG.
More rapid growth over the first 3 years than Obama ever managed with a huge boom in US jobs (even if it was being driven by an unsustainable deficit).
For his base securing a conservative majority on the SC for a generation (not that I would regard that as a good thing myself).
A much more realistic, if chaotic, relationship with China.
A more realistic if also more disengaged approach to Europe.
Middle East peace treaty with some of the Arab states and Israel.
Significant reduction in US military commitments and combat deaths around the world.
Its not a great list and the list of failures is much, much longer.
Personally, I will be glad when 12 noon tomorrow confirms it is finally over.
What has happened is the foreseen disaster and thank goodness he is on his way out now. There but for the grace of Ruth Davidson could have gone us too, coming very close to electing our own Trump in Corbyn 2017.
2019 GE and 2020 Presidential fixed the mistake of the previous election, but everyone needs to learn lessons.
Though its a shame this didn't find its way into the clips (I think there's a clip of him saying it but I can't find it).
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608
This is an interesting subsidiary question dontcha think?
https://twitter.com/rosscolquhoun/status/1351236452944900097?s=21
https://twitter.com/docrussjackson/status/1235212086755676160
I'd be interested in your view. To me it seems rather pointless. It could cause distress to a friend if they happened to log on during that period and notice it on my Facebook profile. Also, the fact that people are expected delete it after an hour rather trivialises it, as if it is something that can be easily shaken off.
If you think otherwise, then I am prepared to reasses my views.
So most Scots would therefore be fine with Boris refusing an indyref for the rest of this Parliament (though that poll is a Comres poll not the Survation poll from today).
On today's Yougov poll Starmer would then become PM with SNP support and he can give the SNP their indyref along with devomax, it would no longer be Boris' problem.
Some US stores are refusing to stock his stuff any more
But Anna Durbin, a professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, was less confident about the levels of protection. In particular, she was skeptical a one-dose vaccine would be enough for older adults, who don’t always mount as strong an immune response as younger people.
“I think it was a bit of a gamble to go with the single dose, and I think it was very responsible of the company to look at a two-dose regimen and a one-dose regimen,” said Durbin, an investigator in trials of the Pfizer vaccine and another testing a vaccine made by AstraZeneca.
Please for the love of God let vulnerable people receive 2 doses of vaccine, 1 dose will probably suffice for fit under 50s that don't work amongst the covid +ve
a) divine intervention from
b) a Trumpist divine being.
I'm not holding my breath.
Brexit was a far right wet dream.
He appointed a hang 'em and flog 'em Home Secretary, who promises to keep out folks like her parents.
Why wouldn't they like him?
Trump withdrew the last US combat forces from Afghanistan in one of his last acts in office, Biden still wants to tackle Al Qaeda there and Biden also voted for the Iraq War unlike Obama (and Trump also said as President the Iraq War was a mistake).
Biden will certainly take a tougher line on Russia than Trump did too while still being wary of China but in a more diplomatic way.
George W Bush has broadly welcomed Biden's election as he knows Biden has a foreign policy approach closer to his than Trump's was.
Faced with that equation and a limited supply of vaccine what do you do short term?
I agree leaving it on for an hour does seem pointless but I am happy to discuss it openly with anyone if asked
It is great everyone is more interested in science, but some of the takes on it are a bit weird.
I don't think Boris is popular with the Far Right. Certainly there are plenty of the UKIP/Brexit party/Reform variety who wouldn't vote for him and think he has betrayed them. Some of them stuck with him for the purposes of getting out of the EU but they will not support him any further.
I think Boris is in trouble come the next election. Politicians always talk about the people 'lending them' their vote and I think it really was the case in 2019.
Those who voted for him for getting Brexit done will now have no reason to continue to vote for him.
Those who voted for him to prevent a Corbyn Government will no longer see Labour as the threat it was
Then there are those who are naturally right of centre, small government types who, like me, either could not vote for him last time because - well he's Boris - or who will not vote for him next time because he has shown himself to be as incompetent and self serving as many claimed.
I don't necessarily see the Labour vote shooting up much - at least not unless Starmer makes a lot more of an impression than he is at the moment - but I can see, in fact I think we already do see, the Tory vote fragmenting.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278
WASHINGTON — President-elect Joe Biden has tapped Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine to be his assistant secretary of health, leaving her poised to become the first openly transgender federal official to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate.
A pediatrician and former Pennsylvania physician general, Levine was appointed to her current post by Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf in 2017, making her one of the few transgender people serving in elected or appointed positions nationwide. She won past confirmation by the Republican-majority Pennsylvania Senate and has emerged as the public face of the state's response to the coronavirus pandemic....
Regardless, the decision is one for Boris as UK PM, he has ruled one out so there will not be one until 2024 at the earliest if Starmer becomes PM.
Trump bears probably 70-80% of the responsibility for the divisions in America. I would agree he is without doubt the worst President in history.
But the Democrats and their supporters also bear at least some responsibility. Although they were no where near as blatant as Trump, never the less they refused to accept that he had won fairly and used every possible tactic to try and undermine his Presidency. In this they were particularly stupid. They should have realised they would not get rid of him before 2020 but in being so partisan and refusing to accept his victory was valid they sowed the seeds for the divisions which, I personally believe, are now insurmountable.
"I am not fit for this office and should never have been here."
He was so reassuringly vague in his campaign declarations that he was understood to support both the foes and the backers of U.S. entry into the League of Nations, the hottest issue of the day.
If I am asked that question and I wanted the referendum next week I would still respond as one of the 57% who responded within the next 5 years so I have responded positively even though 5 years is unacceptable
OK now let us assume I am perverse and decide to not vote with the 57% because of the 5 year criteria and I want a shorter timeframe. That means if a shorter time period is given I will vote for it meaning the figure is now greater than 57%.
So assumption does not hold under any criteria.
Opinion - ok
Fact - not ok.
Similar for the for repudiation of the far right. There's one or two too many Trumpist wankers on the Conservative side of the Commons for anyone nervous about creeping fascism to be comfortable with the direction of the Conservative Party.
In terms of sensible economic policies, I think we all agree the Conservative instinct is pretty strong, although the radical ideological bent injected by Brexit has dulled that somewhat. And the Conservatives has made great leaps forward in the environment in the last 10-15 years, notwithstanding the odd few dinosaurs still within the party. The Conservatives compare very favourably indeed against, say, the Republicans, but are lagging behind other UK parties in this respect. The highest the Conservatives get on any of the above policy areas is a B+. On others, I'm afraid you're in resit territory.
The polling is just a matter of how easy it will be to refuse, Boris will still refuse it regardless as long as he is PM whatever happens at Holyrood in May
I don't think I'll end up writing betting threads about President Biden featuring in pee pee videos and porn videos.
https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/1208803783679135747
Their EU and ScotGov funded ‘trade association’, and the forthcoming Scottish government elections are obviously completely irrelevant to their predicament.
I'm not having a go and it's maybe unfair to ask you specifically but people hear the word "Trump" and automatically say "he's so bad". But why exactly is he so bad? What has he done exactly that was so uniquely awful in the annals of US history?
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1351520808586407942
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1351521238557073408
Is that a requirement to be in BoZo's cabinet?
I was pointing out why it was an opinion and not a fact by applying logic to it to demonstrate why.
We have been here before. You seem to think that logic is some esoterical topic restricted to mathematicians. It isn't. They may be better at it, but it applies to everyday life as well.
I think the weird far-right/libertarian axis has since found his lockdown policies to be less than their cup of tea.
I'm really looking forward to how the parties are going to frame their 'regardless of what you want, we are not going to let you decide whether you want another ref' positions in May.
At the moment, Betfair shows you can have £600,000 on Betfair to leave in 2021 but at 1.01 that represents a liability of only £6,000.
Does the man have no sense of decorum?
https://twitter.com/richard_kaputt/status/1351496622409191424
Johnson's timing is perfect too. As @BluestBlue points out, since the pandemic he has haemorrhaged Far Right support (due to Lockdown and masks etc) but of course he doesn't need it now.
What the polling shows is only relevant to how much resistance he will face when he refuses to grant the SNP any indyref2 as he will, 43% of Scots not wanting an indyref2 for at least 10 years and 57% only wanting one within 5 years ie after the next general election shows Boris can easily get away with refusing one until 2024 as he will with little resistance bar the SNP hardcore.
He polarises opinion like any other president. The proportion who don't hold an opinion of him, one way or another, is very low. That means that the "disapproval" figure for Trump is even higher than you would normally expect based on the approval figure alone. Disapproval for Trump with Gallup is 62%.
A lot of people who didn't previously seem to have an opinion of Trump seem to have come off the fence post the Capitol riots. So, taking the 538 averages, while Trump's current average approval of 38.3% is not quite the worst of his presidency (36.5% in Dec 2017), Trump's current disapproval average of 58.1% is the highest of his presidency (the next worst is 57.4% in 2017).
Trump's current disapproval rating is the worst of any president at the point of leaving within 4 years. His approval rating is marginally better than Carter's, but then Carter's final rating as president came just too early to reflect the release of the Iranian hostages on the eve of Reagan's inauguration.
It should also be noted that Trump's average approval ratings are being substantially boosted by Rasmussen, who currently have him at 48%. That's 3% up since their last pre Capitol insurrection poll at the end of December, and only 1% down since their poll of 4th-6th Jan, in which all or almost all sampling would have ended by the time of the insurrection in mid afternoon. With every other firm, Trump's ratings have gone through the floor since the events of 6th Jan. Rasmussen's failure to detect a shift of opinion is simply not credible in the circumstances.