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Powerful address to the Senate from WH2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney – politicalbetting.com
Some cabinet members are holding preliminary discussions about invoking the 25th amendment to force Trump’s removal from office, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN. It’s unclear whether the effort would ultimately be successful at this stage.
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To use a word used a lot today, smells too much like a coup for comfort. That was George Bush the Elder's view, shared by many then and now, including (I'm guessing) Mike Pence.
And WHY give Trumpsky an excuse, another "stab in the back" argument? OR turn him into a martyr?
MUCH too good for him. Much better his last act is like his role model, Al Capone.
Now House & Senate are reconvening in joint session to go through the roll-call of states, next up: Arkansas.
Meanwhile Jon Ossoff confirmed as winning Georgia so the Democrats will control the Senate. Needless to say, there has been no payment yet from Betfair for my win.
Methinks the young cur looked a tad green around the gills tonight speaking on his "reasons" for objecting to counting Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Now the chatter on the blogs is that he's being pressured by fellow senators NOT to insist on debating for two more freaking hours his PA objection.
That means the 2024 Presidency bet should be going on a Democrat. And the 2022 mid-terms will NOT see the GOP regain any control.
These scenes will be etched into middle America's consciousness for a generation.
Real deal will be Pennsylvania.
Joint session suspended so that both Houses can meet to debate the PA EV objection. Will be interesting to see just how much time is allowed for this, it is now 12.17 AM in Washington, DC.
Especially after such a hard day at the office, to put it mildly.
Most especially the older members, for whom all-night sessions can be true ordeals.
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1347039124461674498?s=20
Ayes = 7 Cruz, Hawley, Hyde Smith, Lummis, Marshall, Scott (FL), Tuberville
Nos = 92 (don't know who was not there, besides Perdue)
McConnell says no more Senate roll calls expected, so they are going to call it a day, or rather night, except for the Senators participating in the joint session to finish counting the EVs.
Some are true-believer wing-nuts. But most are opportunist of one stripe or another, from super-cagey to total con-artists, just like their man Donald Trumpsky.
After the Trumpsky-incited mob attack on the US Capitol, it takes a truly special kind of asshole to go through with this crap tonight.
This band of cretins is the exact OPPOSITE (almost down to numbers) of the National Government MPs, all but a handful Conservatives, who in 1940, after the Norway Debate, voted against the whip and Neville Chamberlain. Because it was in the best interests of their country, which in their eyes came BEFORE party and leader.
Anyway, they have a perfect right to raise objections. Just as WE and others who agree with us, have a perfect right to persecute them politically to the fullest extent we can muster.
Not a good look, from so many perspectives. Let’s hope the rest of the transition period passes off smoothly.
Is the USA the only country in the world with a ten week period between the Election Day and the transfer of powers? One of the starkest images in U.K. politics is the removal van outside No.10 on the day after an election, as a defeated incumbent quite literally has to pack his or her bags and leave.
Not to mention their general silence about the OVERT attempt to OVERTHROW the constitutional process.
WHICH side do you think Hamilton, Madison & Jay would support, based on your reading of the Federalist Papers?
IF fecking Twitter can kick him off, then surely HMG can keep him out.
I mean, you DO have laws and regulations prohibiting importation of dangerous, vicious vermin, don't you?
That said, clearly a MAJOR security breach, and think heads will in fact role in Capitol Police and elsewhere. Though congressional leader made a point of praising CP and other law enforcement for their actions AFTER the attack was launched and the Capitol and other offices were breached.
“We will never recognize Joe Biden as our president, ever,” activist Stacy Gentile said to the crowd, according to the Arizona Mirror."
Cue Trump sacking anyone suspected of backing such a move. How quickly does the sacking of cabinet secretaries formally take effect? And do Acting Secretaries count?
Twitter have locked Trump’s account, they say his words could be read as incitement to riot.
Let’s hope this is the only flash point, and he now goes away quietly.
The light touch that some (but not all) of the law enforcement applied to this protest, compared to how they surely would have responded to more common types of protest, speaks volumes about the double standards that are alive in the US.
Well, maybe we should offer Washington some Beefeaters to keep order at the Hill?
Sort like how Al Haig held Nixon's hand, and Henry Kissinger conducted impromptu prayer meetings with him, to get keep him on the rail until he finally saw the handwriting on the wall, and signed his resignation letter.
BTW, do NOT worry about the military. Like all other US officials, they swore their oath to the Constitution NOT Trumpsky.
And after today, even the dumbest PFC - or lieutenant general - can tell the difference.
Republican bully boys are trying to shout him down. Let America remember!
Hopefully some sort of civic order can be restored under Biden, although my worry is that Trump generates too much ‘engagement’ for the media to simply ignore him after 20th. He lives for publicity, everyone needs to deny him that oxygen.
538 average has it currently at net -10.3, which is actually a bit higher than it was during most of his presidency. Will he finally start losing support now?
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters”
Everyone needs to ignore him completely, let him live out his life wherever he wishes and deny him the oxygen of publicity that he’s craved his whole life.
Trump is just a typical Republican - he's just been a bit more open about it, a bit more crass, and a bit more inept. In that sense he's just exposed the Republican party for what it already was. The fact that 40% still support this is pretty worrying.
There have been inflection points - bit it is a pretty straight line from Lincoln's assassination through the end of Reconstruction in 1877, Integration of the Military in 1948, the Civil Rights act of 1964 to now.
Over under on how many of those were "Black person trying to get home from work?"
https://twitter.com/SUNSETSAPPHICS/status/1346984899929014273
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/adar-poonawalla-india-bar-serum-institute-export-oxford-astrazeneca-covid19-coronavirus-vaccine-months-1755592-2021-01-04
That’s of course if America wants to move on - or does it want to continue the division?
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1347034861698211853
but I don't think he'll ever beat the comedy gold of Four Seasons Total Landscaping, that was genius.
Students' right to break lockdown to travel to get back to their course this time.
Those Republicans who are objecting to the election result, even now after they've had a warning of where such objections will lead, are trying to destroy the institutions of democracy as surely as Xi is in Hong Kong.
If not now then when?
https://twitter.com/beigegoat45/status/1346968568840167427
If one side backs a coup then you have to defeat them utterly. There's no moving on from that until you do.
For @IanB2 This is the one I ordered:
https://www.laithwaites.co.uk/product/C05684
Seems to still be there.
Delighted to say I was writing a design report for someone's house, so I missed most of the drama.
Here's to the asap defenestration of Mr Trumpton.
The situation in the UK is extremely quick. Within 8 hours after a returning officer announces the result confirming an overall majority, the PM can take office, he nominates a chancellor with immediate effect, who implements a structural change with immediate effect. I'm sure there are other countries where that can also happen, but it is at the extreme end of the spectrum.
And a 10 week transfer of power in a digital age is just nuts.
Trump is apparently isolated in the White House, not allowing Pence in, seemingly having burnt all bridges with him. Several of the White House staffers are apparently trying to avoid Trump for fear of later prosecution, but many senior insiders seem to have remained onside with him, at least going on lack of public statements.
Meanwhlle, Pence seems to have sort of special channel to giving orders. The 25th amendment has or is being talked about, and may even have been informally invoked in some way between politicians, but is not in motion.
This is still a pretty strange and uncertain situation.
Sean’s repeated attempts to draw parallels between a riot in the US Parliament that has killed four people, and Jo Swinson’s election campaign, must take the prize for deliberate inanity. Skimming last night’s thread I see he went on to double down with a string of ludicrous posts including predictions that WWIII is now imminent.
I know it is often amusing to have someone so foolish amongst us, but I feel the site gives him too much license.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErFiAH8W4AAyWrG?format=jpg&name=small
And then sit down.
It was interesting that in his speech McConnell majored on the 'threat' to the EC system.