@rjps@Chameleon Donald Trump is entitled to seek to register as a British citizen - but he isn’t one now. When Donald Trump was born in 1946, although his mother remained a British subject, she would have been unable to pass on that nationality, as at that time British nationality law was discriminatory in only permitting transmission by descent in the male line (section 1(1)(b) Nationality and Status of Aliens Act 1914).
To correct the gender discrimination that existed in British nationality law, section 4C of the British Nationality Act provides a route for a person born outside the United Kingdom prior to 1983, where born to a UK-born mother, to apply for registration by entitlement as a British citizen. It is this provision that provides Trump’s route to British citizenship, as it requires former nationality laws to be read to provide for citizenship by descent from a mother, as they provide for citizenship by descent from a father. To succeed Mr. Trump must also satisfy the Secretary of State that he is a man of good character.
He has held the most powerful office in the USA, clearly a sign of being of good character.
@rjps@Chameleon Donald Trump is entitled to seek to register as a British citizen - but he isn’t one now. When Donald Trump was born in 1946, although his mother remained a British subject, she would have been unable to pass on that nationality, as at that time British nationality law was discriminatory in only permitting transmission by descent in the male line (section 1(1)(b) Nationality and Status of Aliens Act 1914).
To correct the gender discrimination that existed in British nationality law, section 4C of the British Nationality Act provides a route for a person born outside the United Kingdom prior to 1983, where born to a UK-born mother, to apply for registration by entitlement as a British citizen. It is this provision that provides Trump’s route to British citizenship, as it requires former nationality laws to be read to provide for citizenship by descent from a mother, as they provide for citizenship by descent from a father. To succeed Mr. Trump must also satisfy the Secretary of State that he is a man of good character. That’s the test Fayed failed.
Didn't he move the Churchill bust back into the Oval Office? I'd let him in just for that.
@rjps@Chameleon Donald Trump is entitled to seek to register as a British citizen - but he isn’t one now. When Donald Trump was born in 1946, although his mother remained a British subject, she would have been unable to pass on that nationality, as at that time British nationality law was discriminatory in only permitting transmission by descent in the male line (section 1(1)(b) Nationality and Status of Aliens Act 1914).
To correct the gender discrimination that existed in British nationality law, section 4C of the British Nationality Act provides a route for a person born outside the United Kingdom prior to 1983, where born to a UK-born mother, to apply for registration by entitlement as a British citizen. It is this provision that provides Trump’s route to British citizenship, as it requires former nationality laws to be read to provide for citizenship by descent from a mother, as they provide for citizenship by descent from a father. To succeed Mr. Trump must also satisfy the Secretary of State that he is a man of good character. That’s the test Fayed failed.
So what you're saying is that the British state, directed by the Duke of Edinburgh, will organise the death of one of the Trump children?
Aren't they already suing him? Maybe he is beyond caring?
He'll be in seclusion in Scotland, why should he worry?
Is he terrifically popular in Scotland? I thought there was a problem with a golf club of his.
More his behaviour with the natives at all levels.
The problem is that unless Mr T is genuinely movcing house he can't legally leave the airport - and neither can his entourage, and they can't all be moving house can they? Also he loses diplomatic immunity the next day.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as Trump's mother was born in the United Kingdom, does he not legally possess British citizenship by descent?
He can't just say I'm British and expect to immediately have* the privilages that British citizens "enjoy". He would need to apply for citizenship first.
If he is in the UK for the inauguration and charges are immediately filed in the US against him, I understand that there is a room going spare in the Ecuadorian Embassy, where he can evade extradition!
*I reserve the right to deliberately split infinitives.
Are you sure about that?
My understanding is that if one of your parents was born in the UK, you are automatically a British citizen, regardless of whether you have a passport or not.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Not sure he would spend a lot of money ... and his American legal chums such as Mr Giuliani can't practise in Scotland.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Actually that probably isn't true - there is a fairly small group of Oakeshots/Farages/Hopkins's etc. for whom palling around with Mr. President would hold a certain attraction. Probably enough to be fairly happy living on the Wentworth Estate or similar where members of the public are few.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Not sure he would spend a lot of money ... and his American legal chums such as Mr Giuliani can't practise in Scotland.
They can't practise successfully in the US either, judging by their track record.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Not sure he would spend a lot of money ... and his American legal chums such as Mr Giuliani can't practise in Scotland.
I'm pretty sure even keeping the Trump entourage running entails a good bit of expenditure. I'd actually sooner he brings his money here than Switzerland. More of our people will get a job through it.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
Yeah, but it would be worth it for the fun of following him around with a giant inflatable trump baby in a nappy...
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
Dont know but think we are understandably more relaxed about this since 9-11. If Trump was here and it was secret service I dont see why we would object - if it was private security its more of an issue.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Not sure he would spend a lot of money ... and his American legal chums such as Mr Giuliani can't practise in Scotland.
I'm pretty sure even keeping the Trump entourage running entails a good bit of expenditure. I'd actually sooner he brings his money here than Switzerland. More of our people will get a job through it.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit. The pace our courts work at best if we build an equivalent to a nightingale hospital to deal with the overflow.
What a silly tweet. Of course BBC London would have broadcast it. As a Unionist, he should have claimed that BBC Scotland is only good for the local news.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
Dont know but think we are understandably more relaxed about this since 9-11. If Trump was here and it was secret service I dont see why we would object - if it was private security its more of an issue.
It's when it starts costing the Scottish taxpayer that it also becomes an issue.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
This reminds me of Labour's Tax Bombshell. Health and Wealth. Direct.
I am now cautiously optimistic that the Democrats will win both Senate races having previously been dubious that they would do so, even though I'm on Jon Ossoff at 3/1. Did I mention that before?
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
Actually that probably isn't true - there is a fairly small group of Oakeshots/Farages/Hopkins's etc. for whom palling around with Mr. President would hold a certain attraction. Probably enough to be fairly happy living on the Wentworth Estate or similar where members of the public are few.
Isn't Trump now hopelessly addicted to public worship? Even non-worshipful attention seems to get him off.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
If the loans are American, and the money is being spent on UK bricks and mortar and golf courses, I see no issue.
He's got it over his left shoulder, what more do they want?
Anyone getting that upset at a flag, or absence of a flag, needs to calm the heck down.
But we need to disect this scene further.
The desk is entirely clear of obstructions, showing his intention to provide simple, clear policies and communication in contrast to his opponent.
The lamp is off to the right and slightly green, showing both his willingness to reach out to voters on the right but also his committment to green issues. It's also illuminating a number of books, showcasing he is learned man, but unlike Boris is not gratuitous in throwing it in people's faces - the books are discreetly placed, modest in number.
The fireplace is walled off, another nod to the need to be green, but it's retained as a feature of the room to show his respect for heritage. It is black, a nod to Labour's history supporting coal miners and that he has the back, as it were, of the black community.
Lastly, directly above his head is the clock, highlighting that he is a man for this moment, and aware of this historic importance of leading in these difficult times. The clock is almost out of reach, to show he knows he has not seized the moment yet, but it is a goal to accomplish, together with the audience.
Just a few miles from where I am. It's the origin of the phrase "to be sent up the river" as it's about 30 miles up the Hudson from New York City. Another fun fact: the prison grounds are split into two sections by the Metro-North Hudson line commuter rail. There are heavily fortified bridges over the railway.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
You think our court costs are matched by contributions from participants? They are chronically underfunded already, hence so slow. Adding 50-100 frivolous Trump cases a year would stop others receiving justice.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
If the loans are American, and the money is being spent on UK bricks and mortar and golf courses, I see no issue.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the UK Government is about to fuel the deaths of millions of people.
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
If the loans are American, and the money is being spent on UK bricks and mortar and golf courses, I see no issue.
It's not his money, it's probably Deutsche Bank money, and Trump has a history of defaults which end up costing the local/regional/national governments.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
Dont know but think we are understandably more relaxed about this since 9-11. If Trump was here and it was secret service I dont see why we would object - if it was private security its more of an issue.
It's when it starts costing the Scottish taxpayer that it also becomes an issue.
Interestingly there is one President, and one only, in history who has voluntarily given up Secret Service protection a few years after leaving office and replaced it with private bodyguards specifically to save the taxpayer money.
If only Richard Nixon has been that selfless the rest of the time.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
So? Not sustainable. Doesn't make sense. That's being a "loser".
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
If the loans are American, and the money is being spent on UK bricks and mortar and golf courses, I see no issue.
He's got it over his left shoulder, what more do they want?
Anyone getting that upset at a flag, or absence of a flag, needs to calm the heck down.
But we need to disect this scene further.
The desk is entirely clear of obstructions, showing his intention to provide simple, clear policies and communication in contrast to his opponent.
The lamp is off to the right and slightly green, showing both his willingness to reach out to voters on the right but also his committment to green issues. It's also illuminating a number of books, showcasing he is learned man, but unlike Boris is not gratuitous in throwing it in people's faces - the books are discreetly placed, modest in number.
The fireplace is walled off, another nod to the need to be green, but it's retained as a feature of the room to show his respect for heritage. It is black, a nod to Labour's history supporting coal miners and that he has the back, as it were, of the black community.
Lastly, directly above his head is the clock, highlighting that he is a man for this moment, and aware of this historic importance of leading in these difficult times. The clock is almost out of reach, to show he knows he has not seized the moment yet, but it is a goal to accomplish, together with the audience.
Brilliant!! There's a wonderful episode of Yes Prime Minister in similar vein. Avant garde, flashy setting for a very boring broadcast or dull as ditchwater for something incredibly radical!
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
Dont know but think we are understandably more relaxed about this since 9-11. If Trump was here and it was secret service I dont see why we would object - if it was private security its more of an issue.
It's when it starts costing the Scottish taxpayer that it also becomes an issue.
Interestingly there is one President, and one only, in history who has voluntarily given up Secret Service protection a few years after leaving office and replaced it with private bodyguards specifically to save the taxpayer money.
If only Richard Nixon has been that selfless the rest of the time.
Also - am I right in thinking Mr Trump only has diplomatic immunity while he is actual President?
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the UK Government is about to fuel the deaths of millions of people.
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
The hyperbole is unhelpful. You really don't know what you're talking about. There are pros and cons and no strategy is riskless, but leave it to the experts.
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
And for those expecting a speedy result ... breaking just now on CNN:
Gabriel Sterling, the voting systems implementation manager for the Georgia Secretary of State's office, told reporters that if he were the betting type, he would anticipate that it will be a couple of days until the final tallies are known in Georgia.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
What's the law on having armed US Secret Service officers traipsing around the UK for a non-current POTUS?
Dont know but think we are understandably more relaxed about this since 9-11. If Trump was here and it was secret service I dont see why we would object - if it was private security its more of an issue.
It's when it starts costing the Scottish taxpayer that it also becomes an issue.
Interestingly there is one President, and one only, in history who has voluntarily given up Secret Service protection a few years after leaving office and replaced it with private bodyguards specifically to save the taxpayer money.
If only Richard Nixon has been that selfless the rest of the time.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
So? Not sustainable. Doesn't make sense. That's being a "loser".
Not sustainable - potentially. Doesn't make sense - potentially. 'Loser' - perhaps. All irrelevant. If these are the case, Trump goes out of business, and others can buy his materially improved luxury resorts and golf courses and make money out of them. The investment is the point.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the UK Government is about to fuel the deaths of millions of people.
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
The hyperbole is unhelpful. You really don't know what you're talking about. There are pros and cons and no strategy is riskless, but leave it to the experts.
--AS
The experts on this are Pfizer who have made it quite clear that there is no clinical data for the route the UK Gov't are headed down.
And I have been following the concern of scientists, the experts, on this very point for the last 48 hours.
So stuff you. 'Doctor knows best' died a death with Harold Shipman and his victims.
Aren't they already suing him? Maybe he is beyond caring?
He'll be in seclusion in Scotland, why should he worry?
Is he terrifically popular in Scotland? I thought there was a problem with a golf club of his.
More his behaviour with the natives at all levels.
The problem is that unless Mr T is genuinely movcing house he can't legally leave the airport - and neither can his entourage, and they can't all be moving house can they? Also he loses diplomatic immunity the next day.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as Trump's mother was born in the United Kingdom, does he not legally possess British citizenship by descent?
He can't just say I'm British and expect to immediately have* the privilages that British citizens "enjoy". He would need to apply for citizenship first.
If he is in the UK for the inauguration and charges are immediately filed in the US against him, I understand that there is a room going spare in the Ecuadorian Embassy, where he can evade extradition!
*I reserve the right to deliberately split infinitives.
Are you sure about that?
My understanding is that if one of your parents was born in the UK, you are automatically a British citizen, regardless of whether you have a passport or not.
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
Not necessarily, he may have taken out loans, remortgages, extensions of credit, and many other things without him putting in a single dollar penny.
If the loans are American, and the money is being spent on UK bricks and mortar and golf courses, I see no issue.
It's not his money, it's probably Deutsche Bank money, and Trump has a history of defaults which end up costing the local/regional/national governments.
Reminds me of the local builder who repeatedly sets up new ltd companies, bankrupting the old one, running off with client funds and stock, and leaving creditors out of pocket, just on an epic scale.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the UK Government is about to fuel the deaths of millions of people.
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
The hyperbole is unhelpful. You really don't know what you're talking about. There are pros and cons and no strategy is riskless, but leave it to the experts.
--AS
MysticRose has been epically wrong on Covid-19 in the past.
Last February wrote a thread header warning us about the dangers of the looming Covid-19 pandemic.
MysticRose said he sounded like a cross between Private Frazer and Eeyore.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
So? Not sustainable. Doesn't make sense. That's being a "loser".
Not sustainable - potentially. Doesn't make sense - potentially. 'Loser' - perhaps. All irrelevant. If these are the case, Trump goes out of business, and others can buy his materially improved luxury resorts and golf courses and make money out of them. The investment is the point.
(a) if he were to go bust, a lot of people - including the UK and Scxottish exchequers - will lose out. (b) the business model may not be sustainable, in which case much or all of the investment is worthless. For instance, IIRC the tooth-sucking by Ayrshire estate agents over the plans to build houses at Turnberry is based on ther view that the market is not there for so many houses.
This is a sad story, at first glance, but it has just occurred to me that, age and health permitting, you will still be posting about Brexit in the late 2030s, won't you?
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
If so then we lack an explanation for how infection soared in other European countries while things were increasing much slower in the UK.
It also means that other European countries remain especially vulnerable to the new variant.
The less of a first wave there was, the more governments and people convinced themselves that they were immune or better at handling it or something, whereas it was all just a question of how far the virus happened to have spread when everyone locked down.
We were a bit more careful to start with in the autumn, then got careless anyway, and finally got hit with the new strain. As will everyone else in due course.
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
That way lies the Ed Stone.
My recollection is that the Ed stone was ed's own private initiative and caused rage and despair among his handlers and spinners.
And for those expecting a speedy result ... breaking just now on CNN:
Gabriel Sterling, the voting systems implementation manager for the Georgia Secretary of State's office, told reporters that if he were the betting type, he would anticipate that it will be a couple of days until the final tallies are known in Georgia.
That's right. A couple of days.
For the final tallies perhaps, but if 98% is counted by the morning and we know where the final 2% is from then we'll almost certainly know the result.
The point is that there are different preparations and some work better than others.
Besides which we will still be importing medecines from the eu so sounds to me like someone at the nhs playing silly buggers because they have an objection to cannabis based drugs more than it is a cannot import situation.
They want to use an unapproved medicine in the U.K.
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
That way lies the Ed Stone.
My recollection is that the Ed stone was ed's own private initiative and caused rage and despair among his handlers and spinners.
I'd be fine for Trump to come to the UK - he's very wealthy and would spend a lot of money here. I don't think he'd be made very welcome outside his own resorts though. There is a large proportion of the US public that 'gets' and likes Trump (and a large proportion that hates him) - over here there just isn't the former group.
We would spend tens of millions on policing and courts costs if Trump settled here. He would leave thousands of contractors, customers and employees with bad debt. Being rich is no guarantee of being an economic contributor to a country.
I doubt it, but you may have a point. Afaik, he is already a considerable investor in Scotland.
By 2016 he had been in 3500 court cases. He is not going to stop that habit.
At his own expense though surely? A boon for our beleaguered legal eagles mourning the loss of the EU?
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
So? Not sustainable. Doesn't make sense. That's being a "loser".
Not sustainable - potentially. Doesn't make sense - potentially. 'Loser' - perhaps. All irrelevant. If these are the case, Trump goes out of business, and others can buy his materially improved luxury resorts and golf courses and make money out of them. The investment is the point.
(a) if he goes bust, a lot of people - including the UK and Scxottish exchequers - will lose out. (b) the business model may not be sustainable, in which case much or all of the investment is worthless. For instance, the tooth-sucking by Ayrshire estate agents over the plans to build houses at Turnberry is based on ther view that the market is not there.
If his creditors are primarily outside the UK, and his material improvements and people he's employing in his struggling resorts are within the UK, that is a big net gain. The housing industry has a business model where they like to build a couple of properties, lay off the workers till they sell, and then build more, all the while claiming the stocks of houses are low - that is how they work. It keeps prices nice and high and saves money. In that, Turnberry is now different to anywhere in the UK.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the UK Government is about to fuel the deaths of millions of people.
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
The hyperbole is unhelpful. You really don't know what you're talking about. There are pros and cons and no strategy is riskless, but leave it to the experts.
--AS
MysticRose has been epically wrong on Covid-19 in the past.
Last February wrote a thread header warning us about the dangers of the looming Covid-19 pandemic.
MysticRose said he sounded like a cross between Private Frazer and Eeyore.
So don't waste your time with her.
Bog off TSE. You know as well as I do that I had one dodgy aberration but for the most part from January onwards, like Sean T, I was warning repeatedly on this and have done repeatedly since. All the time. Someone even very kindly dug out my posts to that effect which you have chosen to ignore even though you know them to be true. That's why I bought my face mask in January ahead of my trip to Asia at the start of February.
You really don't forgive do you? This malicious message is all really because I suggested that you're not as good a writer as you seem to think you are.
Comments
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1346567254889144324?s=20
Edit: Or Mr. Gove. But that still doesn't get him out of the airport legally.
https://twitter.com/ITVChannelTV/status/1346347283575672833?s=20
Several countries in that area have gone from very few deaths in spring to very high deaths now:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/slovenia/
All we know was it was identified in Britain - which, given we're doing over 40% of the global genomic sequencing is far from surprising.
https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30781-7/fulltext
https://twitter.com/asfarasdelgados/status/1345131005842227207?s=20
Arizona, California, Rhode Island worst case rates in the world.
https://twitter.com/murdo_fraser/status/1346543684825845760?s=20
We don't want to be the new Spanish Flu.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/04/trump-scottish-golf-courses-another-year-losses-turnberry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Sing
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mutant-coronavirus-variant-began-just-23211337
https://twitter.com/RedLabour_/status/1346543488251387904
A swamp might need draining.
And to @Carnyx, if Turnberry has been making a loss for that many years, that is the definition of Trump pumping money in.
It also means that other European countries remain especially vulnerable to the new variant.
I'm down wiv da kidsh, I l play 5 a shide at the Talacre!
This reminds me of Labour's Tax Bombshell. Health and Wealth. Direct.
I am now cautiously optimistic that the Democrats will win both Senate races having previously been dubious that they would do so, even though I'm on Jon Ossoff at 3/1. Did I mention that before?
--AS
Anyone getting that upset at a flag, or absence of a flag, needs to calm the heck down.
But we need to disect this scene further.
The desk is entirely clear of obstructions, showing his intention to provide simple, clear policies and communication in contrast to his opponent.
The lamp is off to the right and slightly green, showing both his willingness to reach out to voters on the right but also his committment to green issues. It's also illuminating a number of books, showcasing he is learned man, but unlike Boris is not gratuitous in throwing it in people's faces - the books are discreetly placed, modest in number.
The fireplace is walled off, another nod to the need to be green, but it's retained as a feature of the room to show his respect for heritage. It is black, a nod to Labour's history supporting coal miners and that he has the back, as it were, of the black community.
Lastly, directly above his head is the clock, highlighting that he is a man for this moment, and aware of this historic importance of leading in these difficult times. The clock is almost out of reach, to show he knows he has not seized the moment yet, but it is a goal to accomplish, together with the audience.
He knows he can only win from the centre and the last Labour politician to do just that was Tony Blair
Maybe Tony is advising him
How so?
The self prescribed and unmedical delay between no. 1 Pfizer jab and no. 2 Pfizer jab could be just about perfect for creating a viral mutant strain that is impervious to vaccination.
If only Richard Nixon has been that selfless the rest of the time.
EDIT: Already answered
--AS
Aside from his enormous flag, he seems to have colour-coded his attire. Red tie, white shirt, blue suit.
And should SKS' face really be so ... err .. gammony. It is nearly as bloodied-red as his flag.
I suppose some spin doctor has told him to do this ... but normally, you are better off defining yourself to the voters rather than letting a spinner do it.
That way lies the Ed Stone.
Gabriel Sterling, the voting systems implementation manager for the Georgia Secretary of State's office, told reporters that if he were the betting type, he would anticipate that it will be a couple of days until the final tallies are known in Georgia.
That's right. A couple of days.
--AS
And I have been following the concern of scientists, the experts, on this very point for the last 48 hours.
So stuff you. 'Doctor knows best' died a death with Harold Shipman and his victims.
Last February wrote a thread header warning us about the dangers of the looming Covid-19 pandemic.
MysticRose said he sounded like a cross between Private Frazer and Eeyore.
So don't waste your time with her.
(b) the business model may not be sustainable, in which case much or all of the investment is worthless. For instance, IIRC the tooth-sucking by Ayrshire estate agents over the plans to build houses at Turnberry is based on ther view that the market is not there for so many houses.
Edit: checked the latter - https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/trump-golf/
Not sure of the current situation, mind.
Is that a wise use of your remaining time?
We were a bit more careful to start with in the autumn, then got careless anyway, and finally got hit with the new strain. As will everyone else in due course.
But it’s largely special pleading in this article
https://www.totalpolitics.com/articles/news/edstone-architect-torsten-bell-‘lots-ideas-politics-come-and-go’
If we get things like the Ed Stone and 'Hell, yes' back, then Starmer's tenure will have been a success regardless of electoral outcome.
You really don't forgive do you? This malicious message is all really because I suggested that you're not as good a writer as you seem to think you are.