The Democrats edge into the lead in latest polls for Tuesday’s Georgia runoffs – politicalbetting.co

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The Democrats edge into the lead in latest polls for Tuesday’s Georgia runoffs – politicalbetting.com

Polling average from Nate Silver’s site

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rkrkrk

Not getting my hopes up yet. Even if the Dems do it, I suspect the republicans will filibuster anything and everything and generally be impossible to work with.

TheScreamingEagles

We need a Trafalgar poll.

Pulpstar

I'd back the Democrats but I'm currently trying to get matched in another US market.

IanB2

Pulpstar said:

I'd back the Democrats but I'm currently trying to get matched in another US market.

Long distance dating is such a faff.

Pulpstar

IanB2 said:

Pulpstar said:

I'd back the Democrats but I'm currently trying to get matched in another US market.

Long distance dating is such a faff.

Wltm MAGA true believer.

TheScreamingEagles

Gavin Williamson soon will not be known as a disgraced national security risk but as the man who makes Chris Grayling look competent.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/01/all-primary-schools-in-london-to-remain-closed-after-u-turn

DecrepiterJohnL

As 538 noted a few days ago, most pollsters are steering clear of Georgia's runoff elections. I've had small bets on the Dems for a few weeks now but will not press up on the basis of 538's average of individual polls that give both sides the lead (scroll down).
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/georgia-senate-polls

DecrepiterJohnL

TheScreamingEagles said:

We need a Trafalgar poll.

We've got Trafalgar and it puts the Dems in front.
https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/ga-sen-122/

kinabalu

Yep. I am feeling Smug City about my Dem double at 3.5. Not even bothering to lay back unless it goes heavy odds on.

MikeSmithson

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

TheScreamingEagles

DecrepiterJohnL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

We need a Trafalgar poll.

We've got Trafalgar and it puts the Dems in front.
https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/ga-sen-122/

Time to pile on the GOP then.

HYUFD

Depends which poll, the 2 races will be close

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1344019079615623169?s=20

HYUFD

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

In November Biden got 49.47% in Georgia and Trump got 49.24% so where the 1.24% who went Libertarian go will be decisive

MikeSmithson

HYUFD said:

Depends which poll, the 2 races will be close

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1344019079615623169?s=20

That pollster has no track record.

HYUFD

MikeSmithson said:

HYUFD said:

Depends which poll, the 2 races will be close

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1344019079615623169?s=20

That pollster has no track record.

Emerson does and was spot on in November

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1341781255176790017?s=20

Theuniondivvie

TheScreamingEagles said:

We need a Trafalgar poll.

Trafalgar have moved into the polling business?

Philip_Thompson

HYUFD said:

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

In November Biden got 49.47% in Georgia and Trump got 49.24% so where the 1.24% who went Libertarian go will be decisive

Who actually turns out will be decisive. Turnout will be well down on November.

Gallowgate

Going off Facebook, it looks like quite a few care homes (staff and residents) in Northumberland have had their jab already.

Foxy

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

OnlyLivingBoy

TheScreamingEagles said:

Gavin Williamson soon will not be known as a disgraced national security risk but as the man who makes Chris Grayling look competent.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/01/all-primary-schools-in-london-to-remain-closed-after-u-turn

They are just so monumentally, unbelievably, incurably shit. Our daughter was due to go back to school in four days' time, now she isn't. People are catching Covid left right and centre round here - my eldest tested positive last week - it was blindingly obvious that the schools shouldn't be opening. But rather than giving families and schools time to prepare, they're running around like headless chickens, changing policy at the last minute. Fucking clueless wankers.

Pulpstar

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

That's more of a worry for the GOP at the moment, early voting in Atlanta has been strong.

malcolmg

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Gallowgate

Pulpstar said:

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

That's more of a worry for the GOP at the moment, early voting in Atlanta has been strong.

And just like in the General, Atlanta will probably decide the election.

Sandpit

Philip_Thompson said:

HYUFD said:

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

In November Biden got 49.47% in Georgia and Trump got 49.24% so where the 1.24% who went Libertarian go will be decisive

Who actually turns out will be decisive. Turnout will be well down on November.

It’s definitely a weird feature of runoff elections, that fewer turn out for the actually decisive one than for the original vote.

Foxy

OnlyLivingBoy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Gavin Williamson soon will not be known as a disgraced national security risk but as the man who makes Chris Grayling look competent.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/01/all-primary-schools-in-london-to-remain-closed-after-u-turn

They are just so monumentally, unbelievably, incurably shit. Our daughter was due to go back to school in four days' time, now she isn't. People are catching Covid left right and centre round here - my eldest tested positive last week - it was blindingly obvious that the schools shouldn't be opening. But rather than giving families and schools time to prepare, they're running around like headless chickens, changing policy at the last minute. Fucking clueless wankers.

I cannot see it being realistic for schools to be going back this month, anywhere. It's spreading everywhere.

malcolmg

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

TheScreamingEagles

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It's a great film about a Sheffield lad done good.

MikeSmithson

Pulpstar said:

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

That's more of a worry for the GOP at the moment, early voting in Atlanta has been strong.

I don't think LOSER-TRUMP's attack on the WH2020 results will have helped his party here.

IanB2

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

As if Brexit isn’t enough already.

rcs1000

TheScreamingEagles said:

We need a Trafalgar poll.

From now on, all mentions of Trafalgar "polls" need to include the quotation mark around the word "poll". Failure to adhere to this policy will result in the deletion of posts. Repeated offenders will be banned.

RobD

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

More to do with the recent congestion than Brexit?

rcs1000

MikeSmithson said:

HYUFD said:

Depends which poll, the 2 races will be close

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1344019079615623169?s=20

That pollster has no track record.

And they're explicitly not a pollster.

rcs1000

Gallowgate said:

Pulpstar said:

MikeSmithson said:

My worry here is Democratic turnout.

That's more of a worry for the GOP at the moment, early voting in Atlanta has been strong.

And just like in the General, Atlanta will probably decide the election.

If you've seen an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta, that will terrify you.

Nigel_Foremain

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

Brexiteers = nationalists. Same as you lot. Brainless, intellectual simpletons with a bizarre mixture of hatred of others and pretences of superiority driven by an aching personal inferiority complex. Nationalism is the dimwits charter. I look forward to your characteristically subtle and nuanced response to demonstrate your superiority to anyone you regard as English 😂😂

TheScreamingEagles

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

TheScreamingEagles

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1345080477791744001

tlg86

RHPOT is Die Hard set in the 13th century.

malcolmg

RobD said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

More to do with the recent congestion than Brexit?

why would congestion mean over 300% increase

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

As someone who has drafted proposals in Google Docs and migrated them to Word, I feel their pain.

RobD

malcolmg said:

RobD said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

More to do with the recent congestion than Brexit?

why would congestion mean over 300% increase

Fewer items can be delivered, so a shortage of supply for delivery slots. That'd increase the cost.

SandyRentool

TheScreamingEagles said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It's a great film about a Sheffield lad done good.

Robin Hood was in The Full Monty?

Stuartinromford

Foxy said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Gavin Williamson soon will not be known as a disgraced national security risk but as the man who makes Chris Grayling look competent.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/01/all-primary-schools-in-london-to-remain-closed-after-u-turn

They are just so monumentally, unbelievably, incurably shit. Our daughter was due to go back to school in four days' time, now she isn't. People are catching Covid left right and centre round here - my eldest tested positive last week - it was blindingly obvious that the schools shouldn't be opening. But rather than giving families and schools time to prepare, they're running around like headless chickens, changing policy at the last minute. Fucking clueless wankers.

I cannot see it being realistic for schools to be going back this month, anywhere. It's spreading everywhere.

One one hand, better to take the decision now rather than Monday.

On the other, my abiding memory of March is that we were scrabbling down a landslide, hoping that each measure would be sufficient to regain control and then finding it wasn't.

That sense hasn't really gone away, but it's getting more intense again.

TheScreamingEagles

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

As someone who has drafted proposals in Google Docs and migrated them to Word, I feel their pain.

I prefer Word.

Because so many times the other side in a negotiations/mediations/litigation send me their word documents with track changes on and that makes my job so much easier.

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

As someone who has drafted proposals in Google Docs and migrated them to Word, I feel their pain.

I prefer Word.

Because so many times the other side in a negotiations/mediations/litigation send me their word documents with track changes on and that makes my job so much easier.

I find Google docs easier for collaboration, the track changes feature there is pretty good but not as complete as in Word.

Gardenwalker

Although it was fuzzier earlier on in the crisis, there is quite a correlation between Brexitism and Covidiocy.

Good to see a Tory MP trying to hold the Telegraph to account.

https://twitter.com/neildotobrien/status/1345027748432142337?s=21

IanB2

tlg86 said:

RHPOT is Die Hard set in the 13th century.

It isn’t really an Xmas film, tho.

DavidL

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It’s only worth watching for Alan Rickman. But that makes it very worthwhile indeed.

CarlottaVance

malcolmg said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Gallowgate said:

If Scotland voted to stay in the UK in a 2nd IndyRef after everything that has happened with Brexit then that will put the issue to bed for a long time. I think it's deluded to suggest that there will be a further 3rd and 4th referendum.

The best policy for Unionists is to finish what Blair started and failed to finish: give Scotland a final and sustainable long-term devolution settlement, just as @Gardenwalker suggests. Then have a IndyRef.

If a future Labour government wishes to do that fine, this Tory government respects the once in a generation 2014 vote

What is your source for "once in a generation"?

Salmond himself

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661

It wasn't just Salmond or Sturgeon who said it off the cuff, it was in the White Paper.

Politicians spout crap on a daily basis.

Indeed they do:

https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1345074923446874116?s=20

TheScreamingEagles

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

MarqueeMark

Gardenwalker said:

Although it was fuzzier earlier on in the crisis, there is quite a correlation between Brexitism and Covidiocy.

Good to see a Tory MP trying to hold the Telegraph to account.

https://twitter.com/neildotobrien/status/1345027748432142337?s=21

That will be why Covid rates are going through the roof in that, er, bastion of Brexit, London.

Did you see that image of a rammed Hungerford Bridge from last night? Not a mask in sight....

MarqueeMark

TheScreamingEagles said:

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

Well, when they get Covid they obviously won't need hospital care.

DavidL

CarlottaVance said:

malcolmg said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Gallowgate said:

If Scotland voted to stay in the UK in a 2nd IndyRef after everything that has happened with Brexit then that will put the issue to bed for a long time. I think it's deluded to suggest that there will be a further 3rd and 4th referendum.

The best policy for Unionists is to finish what Blair started and failed to finish: give Scotland a final and sustainable long-term devolution settlement, just as @Gardenwalker suggests. Then have a IndyRef.

If a future Labour government wishes to do that fine, this Tory government respects the once in a generation 2014 vote

What is your source for "once in a generation"?

Salmond himself

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661

It wasn't just Salmond or Sturgeon who said it off the cuff, it was in the White Paper.

Politicians spout crap on a daily basis.

Indeed they do:

https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1345074923446874116?s=20

So why didn’t she want a deal with Europe then?
No wonder the SNP want control of our drugs policy. Their leadership is on acid.

YBarddCwsc

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

5 kg parcel, size 10 cm X 10 cm X 10 cm, UK to Belgium, here are some quotes

https://tinyurl.com/y9th2ct2

Looks to be plenty of availability at the £15 - £17 mark, though of course it depends on speed/insurance.

Foxy

TheScreamingEagles said:

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

We have our own QAnon.

Philip_Thompson

DavidL said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It’s only worth watching for Alan Rickman. But that makes it very worthwhile indeed.

Is that the medieval film or the Christmas film you're talking about?

kle4

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

Crack legal team at work.

DavidL

Philip_Thompson said:

DavidL said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It’s only worth watching for Alan Rickman. But that makes it very worthwhile indeed.

Is that the medieval film or the Christmas film you're talking about?

Well both actually. But particularly the RHPOT film.

Sandpit

Gardenwalker said:

Although it was fuzzier earlier on in the crisis, there is quite a correlation between Brexitism and Covidiocy.

Good to see a Tory MP trying to hold the Telegraph to account.

https://twitter.com/neildotobrien/status/1345027748432142337?s=21

Well done Neil O’Brien MP on callling out the media, who have collectively had a terrible year of spreading conspiracy theories and actively encouraging risky behaviour in the face of a pandemic.

They completely misunderstood the role they needed to play, to avoid making the situation worse.

Foxy

DavidL said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It’s only worth watching for Alan Rickman. But that makes it very worthwhile indeed.

Yeah, it was fun. In a sort of "Emily in Paris" way...

DavidL

MarqueeMark said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

Well, when they get Covid they obviously won't need hospital care.

Oh they need hospital care alright.

kle4

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1345073183548985344

As someone who has drafted proposals in Google Docs and migrated them to Word, I feel their pain.

Given the difficulties that can arise simply migrating things from one Word document to another Word document, I can too, but it's still bloody incompetent to use it as an excuse like that.

nichomar

19/20 hours into 2021 let’s hope it gets better. It does look like a shambles, the picture of people standing outside a hospital drunk and chanting covid is a hoax just about sums up what the UK is up against, its even more depressing than watching the powers that be twist and squirm. Maybe the water cannon were actually a good idea!

Nigelb

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Sadly, half of Alan Rickman’s scenes ended on the cutting room floor, so far did he upstage Costner.

Richard_Tyndall

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

RobD

nichomar said:

19/20 hours into 2021 let’s hope it gets better. It does look like a shambles, the picture of people standing outside a hospital drunk and chanting covid is a hoax just about sums up what the UK is up against, its even more depressing than watching the powers that be twist and squirm. Maybe the water cannon were actually a good idea!

I don't think they are just limited to the UK. Look at the numbers who will refuse the vaccine elsewhere. The UK does not look anywhere near as bad as those places.

FrancisUrquhart

TheScreamingEagles said:

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

BBC News - Covid: Illegal New Year party at Essex church broken up

A 500-year-old church was damaged during an illegal New Year's Eve party at the venue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55506681

Richard_Tyndall

Nigelb said:

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Sadly, half of Alan Rickman’s scenes ended on the cutting room floor, so far did he upstage Costner.

Even worse this version today cut a lot of his best lines from the film because of when it was shown.

kle4

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1345087096151801865

DavidL

Foxy said:

DavidL said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

It’s only worth watching for Alan Rickman. But that makes it very worthwhile indeed.

Yeah, it was fun. In a sort of "Emily in Paris" way...

I’ll bow to your greater knowledge on that!

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/Greg_Callus/status/1345087426054795268

Richard_Tyndall

Sandpit said:

Gardenwalker said:

Although it was fuzzier earlier on in the crisis, there is quite a correlation between Brexitism and Covidiocy.

Good to see a Tory MP trying to hold the Telegraph to account.

https://twitter.com/neildotobrien/status/1345027748432142337?s=21

Well done Neil O’Brien MP on callling out the media, who have collectively had a terrible year of spreading conspiracy theories and actively encouraging risky behaviour in the face of a pandemic.

They completely misunderstood the role they needed to play, to avoid making the situation worse.

The Telegraph really has been a rag. To be fair the Guardian and Times have been better.

Scott_xP

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1345087294122979328

Gardenwalker

MarqueeMark said:

Gardenwalker said:

Although it was fuzzier earlier on in the crisis, there is quite a correlation between Brexitism and Covidiocy.

Good to see a Tory MP trying to hold the Telegraph to account.

https://twitter.com/neildotobrien/status/1345027748432142337?s=21

That will be why Covid rates are going through the roof in that, er, bastion of Brexit, London.

Did you see that image of a rammed Hungerford Bridge from last night? Not a mask in sight....

London has a lot of people in it, including it’s fair share of idiots.

You do understand London has a lot of people in it, don’t you?

RobD

kle4 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

Was he Albanian, by any chance?

FrancisUrquhart

kle4 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

My Albanian taxi driver told me not to trust anecdotal stories about taxi drivers...

IanB2

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

What are freight forwarders charging, including completing the necessary paperwork?

Richard_Tyndall

IanB2 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

What are freight forwarders charging, including completing the necessary paperwork?

If you are using P2G that is the total price you pay.

Gardenwalker

Toby Young. Covidiot and Brexiter.
Tim Martin. Covidiot and Brexiter.
Julia Hartley-Brewer. Covidiot and Brexiter.
“Backwoodsman” Tory MPs. Covidiots and Brexiters.

I wonder what ties these two seemingly disparate ideologies together?

Sandpit

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Yeah I'm officially pro death penalty for people like this.

https://twitter.com/mbklee_/status/1344795588039208961

BBC News - Covid: Illegal New Year party at Essex church broken up

A 500-year-old church was damaged during an illegal New Year's Eve party at the venue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55506681

What is it with all these morons?

Are people so completely incapable of behaving themselves, that we are going to end up with evening curfews and police on the streets arresting anyone who leaves their home?

FrancisUrquhart

Gardenwalker said:

Toby Young. Covidiot and Brexiter.
Tim Martin. Covidiot and Brexiter.
Julia Hartley-Brewer. Covidiot and Brexiter.
“Backwoodsman” Tory MPs. Covidiots and Brexiters.

I wonder what ties these two seemingly disparate ideologies together?

Corbyn Bros...Covidiots and .....oh I see what you mean.

Richard_Tyndall

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/Greg_Callus/status/1345087426054795268

People have actually been posting graphs from the drug companies showing single dose efficacy on here today. Have you not seen them?

kle4

RobD said:

kle4 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

Was he Albanian, by any chance?

No, amazingly he was a Pitcairn Islander.

Gardenwalker

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

DavidL

Richard_Tyndall said:

Nigelb said:

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Sadly, half of Alan Rickman’s scenes ended on the cutting room floor, so far did he upstage Costner.

Even worse this version today cut a lot of his best lines from the film because of when it was shown.

Surely not “and bring your friend “.

Richard_Tyndall

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

Just pointing out that the original comment was an outright lie.

MaxPB

kle4 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

Was he Albanian and an ex professor of epidemiology?

Mortimer

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

Interestingly, using comparators I'm familiar with (I send parcels all around the world), some firms do seem to have hiked their rates recently. My prediction: Parcelforce, who seem to have maintained lower prices, are going to clean up for the foreseeable unless that is rectified.

Richard_Tyndall

DavidL said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Nigelb said:

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Sadly, half of Alan Rickman’s scenes ended on the cutting room floor, so far did he upstage Costner.

Even worse this version today cut a lot of his best lines from the film because of when it was shown.

Surely not “and bring your friend “.

Yep that one went completely.

kle4

DavidL said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Nigelb said:

malcolmg said:

Foxy said:

Just watching the end of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

Good to see such meticulous historical accuracy...

Good fun if you suspend your brain

Sadly, half of Alan Rickman’s scenes ended on the cutting room floor, so far did he upstage Costner.

Even worse this version today cut a lot of his best lines from the film because of when it was shown.

Surely not “and bring your friend “.

It was 'bring a friend'. Tut tut. Gotta get those quotes right.

Gardenwalker

Richard_Tyndall said:

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

Just pointing out that the original comment was an outright lie.

Social media (PB aside of course) has debauched, and even replaced, ordinary political discourse.

Gresham’s Law.

MaxPB

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

Without knowing what it was a week ago that's not necessarily true either.

Theuniondivvie

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

malcolmg said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Gallowgate said:

If Scotland voted to stay in the UK in a 2nd IndyRef after everything that has happened with Brexit then that will put the issue to bed for a long time. I think it's deluded to suggest that there will be a further 3rd and 4th referendum.

The best policy for Unionists is to finish what Blair started and failed to finish: give Scotland a final and sustainable long-term devolution settlement, just as @Gardenwalker suggests. Then have a IndyRef.

If a future Labour government wishes to do that fine, this Tory government respects the once in a generation 2014 vote

What is your source for "once in a generation"?

Salmond himself

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661

It wasn't just Salmond or Sturgeon who said it off the cuff, it was in the White Paper.

Politicians spout crap on a daily basis.

Indeed they do:

https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1345074923446874116?s=20

So why didn’t she want a deal with Europe then?
No wonder the SNP want control of our drugs policy. Their leadership is on acid.

Yep, mystifying when only three weeks ago she was told that no deal ‘would be wonderful for the UK’. Imagine voting ‘for’ something that would be wonderful for the UK!

kle4

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

If that is a critical point worth making it should have been made accurately then. Now it looks insignificant next to what was claimed.

In politics it is amazing how often that same mistake gets made, to overdo an attack, making the truth then look reasonable.

Mortimer

kle4 said:

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

If that is a critical point worth making it should have been made accurately then. Now it looks insignificant next to what was claimed.

In politics it is amazing how often that same mistake gets made, to overdo an attack, making the truth then look reasonable.

This was, imo, Blair's main strength.

His reasonableness in debate made him difficult to disagree with.

RobD

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

Likely down to the congestion, don't you think?

Mortimer

Mortimer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

Interestingly, using comparators I'm familiar with (I send parcels all around the world), some firms do seem to have hiked their rates recently. My prediction: Parcelforce, who seem to have maintained lower prices, are going to clean up for the foreseeable unless that is rectified.

My second prediction: when the new protocols are better understood and we're passed Covid shenanigans, other operators will be trying to match or better them. This is the glory of the free market.

Foxy

kle4 said:

RobD said:

kle4 said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

I'll never understand why people make up anecdotes which can be very quickly refuted. There's an art to making this stuff up, as my taxi driver told me the other day.

Was he Albanian, by any chance?

No, amazingly he was a Pitcairn Islander.

Surprised he passed the DRB check...

DavidL

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

malcolmg said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Gallowgate said:

If Scotland voted to stay in the UK in a 2nd IndyRef after everything that has happened with Brexit then that will put the issue to bed for a long time. I think it's deluded to suggest that there will be a further 3rd and 4th referendum.

The best policy for Unionists is to finish what Blair started and failed to finish: give Scotland a final and sustainable long-term devolution settlement, just as @Gardenwalker suggests. Then have a IndyRef.

If a future Labour government wishes to do that fine, this Tory government respects the once in a generation 2014 vote

What is your source for "once in a generation"?

Salmond himself

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661

It wasn't just Salmond or Sturgeon who said it off the cuff, it was in the White Paper.

Politicians spout crap on a daily basis.

Indeed they do:

https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1345074923446874116?s=20

So why didn’t she want a deal with Europe then?
No wonder the SNP want control of our drugs policy. Their leadership is on acid.

Yep, mystifying when only three weeks ago she was told that no deal ‘would be wonderful for the UK’. Imagine voting ‘for’ something that would be wonderful for the UK!

She may have been told that Divvie but she was adamant that that was ridiculous and then voted for it!

Mortimer

RobD said:

Gardenwalker said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

malcolmg said:

Fran C Stole My Soap
@TworandN

Rule Britannia?

Sending a 5kg package from UK to Belgium cost £13 two weeks ago. Now it costs £44.

Well done Brexiteers. You certainly showed them.

I call bullshit. I just went to parcel2go and got them to quote for a 5kg package (30cmx30cmx30cm).

£18.94 with Parcelforce 3 day delivery.

This is such a dumb lie to make because it is so easy to check.

So only the 46% price rise, then.
Worth it!

Likely down to the congestion, don't you think?

A bit of both - its uncertainty, which couriers hate.

Most interesting to me is not the price changes, but the reduction in the number of operators/choices available. I suspect many have decided that right now is a good time to reduce load.