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It would appear we are only hours away from a deal – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,126
edited December 2020 in General
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  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,418
    Brexit is boring
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,853
    Won't believe it till Boris and UVdL both announce it.
    & What a massive upgrade over Drunker she is.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825
    I wonder how self aware are some of those making comments like that unironically. They have to know they don't know crap a lot of the time, and caveating their speculation dressed up sourced info doesn't disguise what most of them are doing.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,027
    Though oddly some journalists still tweeting about the imminent deal..so I really don't know.

    Perhaps they were wrong insomuch it was never going to be tonight - tomorrow Perhaps?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,802
    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,306
    RobD said:

    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.

    The conclave of the high priests of the ERG should use that method to signal whether they approve of the deal.
  • RobD said:

    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.

    Smoke? Has Bomber Harris been round?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,802
    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.

    No, but maybe it'll be announced to the European Parliament, as seen here

    There has been an attempt on U vdL's life? :o:D
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,802

    RobD said:

    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.

    Smoke? Has Bomber Harris been round?
    He was despatched earlier today to deliver the divorce bill. As agreed, in pennies.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473
    edited December 2020

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
  • I can't decide if this is some weird spoof:



    This is why I still have faith that Donald Trump is going to win his rightful second term as president (and I mean now, not 2024). It’s not that I underestimate the vastness of the forces arrayed against him. Rather it’s that I believe there are enough people out there – from those 74million Trump voters to the Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe to the tenacious, fearless, 5-D-chess-playing President himself – who understand that this attempted election theft poses an existential threat to the Republic and, by extension, to the Free World. They will not let this crime happen because they are fully aware that the costs of nipping this globalist coup in the bud now will be as nothing to the costs of dealing with it should these evil-doers be allowed to prevail.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/i-still-believe-trump-will-and-must-win/
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,691
    Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    It's Boris. It'll be mere flesh-wounds as you say.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    The snake oil is being bottled, corked, and labelled as we write.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965

    RobD said:

    Anyone got a webcam of the commission exterior? Need to see that smoke.

    The conclave of the high priests of the ERG should use that method to signal whether they approve of the deal.
    The smoke will be coming out of their ears.
  • Johnson and Von Der Leyen still arguing about which whorish shade of red the lipstick should be on the pig
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,555
    Rejoice. A Christmas miracle.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344
    kle4 said:

    I wonder how self aware are some of those making comments like that unironically. They have to know they don't know crap a lot of the time, and caveating their speculation dressed up sourced info doesn't disguise what most of them are doing.
    Pullitzer prize for the first journo to tweet "Brexit: we know fuck all..."
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Another bad covid day for Germany

    +31,297 Cases +886 deaths
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,575
    Jonathan said:

    Rejoice. A Christmas miracle.

    The Oxford vaccine is approved?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344

    Johnson and Von Der Leyen still arguing about which whorish shade of red the lipstick should be on the pig

    Unkind to bring Cameron into this particular moment of sealing Brexit.....
  • MattWMattW Posts: 22,700
    Why was the last thread discussing WW2?

    Was it all the fault of the naughty individual who blamed the Falklands War on Mr Thatcher?

    I love the logic of that: I invade your country, it's your fault. Happens every day all ovver the country over 10cm of hedge.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473
    edited December 2020
    MattW said:

    Why was the last thread discussing WW2?

    Was it all the fault of the naughty individual who blamed the Falklands War on Mr Thatcher?

    I love the logic of that: I invade your country, it's your fault. Happens every day all ovver the country over 10cm of hedge.

    It was the comparison of lockdown to the Dresden firestorm that did it.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    My son met his mate at the barbers today

    Tonight his mate contacted by track and trace and told to isolate for 5 more days.......

    Am I right in thinking this means he was exposed potentially 5 days ago?

    My son has already had covid so he should be fine, but he is supposed to be coming to my place xmas day (we are still tier 2 - for now) - could he still infect his family?

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965
    Tier 4 during Christmas holidays is exactly that. If that isn't enough to get R below 1 we are buggered.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Why was the last thread discussing WW2?

    Was it all the fault of the naughty individual who blamed the Falklands War on Mr Thatcher?

    I love the logic of that: I invade your country, it's your fault. Happens every day all ovver the country over 10cm of hedge.

    It was the comparison of lockdown to the Dresden firestorm that did it.
    As we all do.........
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344

    Jonathan said:

    Rejoice. A Christmas miracle.

    The Oxford vaccine is approved?
    We need one hour when we announce 1. Brexit deal done 2. Oxford vaccine approved 3. Queen to abdicte for William 4 Kim Kardashain has liposuction to remove her butt.

    24 hour news would never, ever recover from the shock of trying to work out which to go with....
  • glwglw Posts: 9,871
    Floater said:

    My son met his mate at the barbers today

    Tonight his mate contacted by track and trace and told to isolate for 5 more days.......

    Am I right in thinking this means he was exposed potentially 5 days ago?

    My son has already had covid so he should be fine, but he is supposed to be coming to my place xmas day (we are still tier 2 - for now) - could he still infect his family?

    I believe that's correct. My sister got a notification and she had to isolate for three days, which was 10 from the contact.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,889

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Jonathan said:

    Rejoice. A Christmas miracle.

    The Oxford vaccine is approved?
    We need one hour when we announce 1. Brexit deal done 2. Oxford vaccine approved 3. Queen to abdicte for William 4 Kim Kardashain has liposuction to remove her butt.

    24 hour news would never, ever recover from the shock of trying to work out which to go with....
    Obviously Kim K..........
  • I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    And of course some say that this has happened already.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825
    edited December 2020
    His behaviour in recent weeks has been completely in character. Barr knew who he was serving. And presumably will keep quiet, given Trump was relatively nice when announcing Barr was going.
  • FPT

    So, if I’m keeping up, the fact that the Allies didn’t seem to care much about protecting Axis lives in World War II, 75 years ago, demonstrates that lockdowns aren’t actually about public health but something else completely?

    Did I miss a step or two, or is that it?

    Wait until you hear what Sweden did during WWII.

    That's the example we should have followed.

    It would have saved so many British lives.
    Despite several pleas from the Finnish government, the Swedish government declined to engage militarily with the Red Army as it advanced during the Winter War. However, Sweden declared itself "non-belligerent" rather than neutral during the conflict and as many as 8,000 Swedes voluntarily went to Finland to fight. The Swedish government and public also sent food, clothing, medicine, weapons and ammunition to aid the Finns during this conflict. This military aid included:[15]

    135,402 rifles, 347 machine guns, 450 light machine guns with 50,013,300 rounds of small arms ammunition;
    144 field guns, 100 anti-aircraft guns and 92 anti-tank guns with 301,846 shells;
    300 naval mines and 500 depth charges;
    17 fighter aircraft, 5 light bombers, 1 DC-2 transport aircraft turned into a bomber, and 3 reconnaissance aircraft.

    [..]

    In 1943, Sweden received nearly all of Denmark's 8,000 Jews (along with 9,000 Danish Christians who were seeking refuge from conditions of war) [42]. With the dissolution of the Danish government in the summer of 1943, the German authorities had decided to deport Denmark's Jewish population to concentration camps. However, the Danes successfully ferried all but 450 of the Danish Jews across the straits between Copenhagen and the Swedish mainland, across waters that were patrolled by German Schnellboots, in an unprecedented rescue effort. Once in Sweden, the Danish Jews were granted asylum and taken in by Swedish families. Many stayed in Sweden after the war. Sweden also received refugees from Finland and Norway, including some of Norway's Jews. All this, as well as the protection of Sweden's own Jewish population, was made possible by Sweden's neutrality. A daily newspaper in Sweden, the Svenska Dagbladet said that Sweden did more to assist and save Jews than any other country.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_during_World_War_II
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825
    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Tiresome, I'd say. But one thing he has never been accused of it boring.
  • Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    With gangrene it's important to get rid of all the rot isn't it?
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,593
    edited December 2020
    Any deal is very good news, not only because it prevents the disaster of no deal but because it provides an amicable basis from which to rebuild what will continue to be the most important geopolitical and trading relationship we will have. It will be a huge relief for anyone who cares about this country. Obviously, making it harder and more expensive to export to our biggest market while removing freedoms from UK citizens is sub-optimal, to say the least, but it is much better than the alternative. And it will be sealed with smiles and handshakes. The rabid xenophobia a no deal would have unleashed in our right wing press will not be required - beyond a week or so of claims of stunning victory.
  • Maybe just putting it off a few hours so it can be called the Christmas Eve Deal, like the Good Friday Agreement. We will refer to it as the CED in future.
  • Floater said:

    Another bad covid day for Germany

    +31,297 Cases +886 deaths

    744 deaths isn't exactly a "good" day for the UK...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,892
    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,575
    kle4 said:

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Tiresome, I'd say. But one thing he has never been accused of it boring.
    Boorish though
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Floater said:

    Another bad covid day for Germany

    +31,297 Cases +886 deaths

    744 deaths isn't exactly a "good" day for the UK...
    No doubt - but Germany had been doing so well at the start
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,892

    Maybe just putting it off a few hours so it can be called the Christmas Eve Deal, like the Good Friday Agreement. We will refer to it as the CED in future.

    BoZo rose on Easter Sunday and delivered a deal on Christmas Eve...

    You would need to be a writer with vivid imagination to come up with that one
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344
    That big Brexit discussion in Brussels tonight:

    Do we put Macron's toys back in his pram and tuck him up, or leave him alone, screaming until, exhausted, he finally falls asleep?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,134
    Anyone who spends more than 20 minutes on Twitter each day needs to have a re-think IMO.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,123
    Cabinet meeting in the next hour according to Sky News.
  • Breaking

    Sky

    Boris calling cabinet meeting as of now
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,802

    Breaking

    Sky

    Boris calling cabinet meeting as of now

    Boom?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344
    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Boris-bashing is boring.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,314
    Pulpstar said:

    Brexit is boring

    Yes, a deal Brexit will be very boring. So is Joe Biden. No deal Brexit/Trump aren't.
    Boring options are the sane ones.
    If you're right, Starmer's got the next GE in the bag then.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,802
    Cabinet at 11pm? Must be war with France.
  • ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Boris-bashing is boring.
    He may be many things but boring he is not
  • RobD said:

    Cabinet at 11pm? Must be war with France.

    Calais must be ours.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,965
    Bit of a dodgy salute from that Chelsea Pensioner. Which side did he serve on again?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825
    RobD said:

    Cabinet at 11pm? Must be war with France.

    Wouldn't that be Midnight in Brussels? Must be to mark the starttime of a capitulation.
  • Scott_xP said:

    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248

    For me, the key observation is that Boris broke convention and overrode watchdogs to ennoble Leavers, which suggests he is preparing to compromise on Brexit so needs them onside.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,889

    kle4 said:

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Tiresome, I'd say. But one thing he has never been accused of it boring.
    Boorish though
    Boorish, certainly, and deadly boring as well. All you Tories kept on chanting, " He may be useless, but at least Boris is fun!" I don´t see any fun at all at present.

    So the question remains: What is Boris for?
  • Scott_xP said:

    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248

    That's a class Sun front page.
  • Sun saying personal triumph for Johnson.

    Looks like Rupert is on board. Makes it harder for ERG loons now.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825

    Bit of a dodgy salute from that Chelsea Pensioner. Which side did he serve on again?
    Outrageous, that's the half hearted, energy saving salute-cum-wave of a British Royal he is imitating.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473

    Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    With gangrene it's important to get rid of all the rot isn't it?
    Brexit rots from its head.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,848
    Andy_JS said:

    Anyone who spends more than 20 minutes on Twitter each day needs to have a re-think IMO.

    If we banned people who have face book or twitter accounts from voting it would go a long way to solve the issue of social media affecting elections and also make the counts much much faster .... nods
  • ClippP said:

    kle4 said:

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Tiresome, I'd say. But one thing he has never been accused of it boring.
    Boorish though
    Boorish, certainly, and deadly boring as well. All you Tories kept on chanting, " He may be useless, but at least Boris is fun!" I don´t see any fun at all at present.

    So the question remains: What is Boris for?
    Probably to wind you up
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473
    RobD said:

    Breaking

    Sky

    Boris calling cabinet meeting as of now

    Boom?
    More likely Zoom.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344

    Breaking

    Sky

    Boris calling cabinet meeting as of now

    "OK guys. We have sorted out fishing. We have resolved the level playing field. The big issues between us have been settled so we can continue with tariff-free trading with Europe but outside the clutches of Brusses. It's all we could realistically expect. It will give us - and me - a great boost in the polls.

    One little thing though. Luxembourg - the bastards - will crash the deal unless we agree one more point.

    We must have burgundy passports.

    So we are all agreed - No Deal?"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,825
    Pagan2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Anyone who spends more than 20 minutes on Twitter each day needs to have a re-think IMO.

    If we banned people who have face book or twitter accounts from voting it would go a long way to solve the issue of social media affecting elections and also make the counts much much faster .... nods
    Not the next set of counts, alas. Had the anticipated email from my local authority around current intentions, verifying one day, counting principal authority the next, parishes the next day etc. It just won't be the same when it is not 3am.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    USA 1,004 deaths/million on worldometer.
  • Johnson and Von Der Leyen still arguing about which whorish shade of red the lipstick should be on the pig

    Unkind to bring Cameron into this particular moment of sealing Brexit.....
    Squeal Piggy!
  • ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Boris-bashing is boring.
    Bishop bashing over Boris is boring, except for the chaps that enjoy it I presume.
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    ClippP said:

    kle4 said:

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Tiresome, I'd say. But one thing he has never been accused of it boring.
    Boorish though
    Boorish, certainly, and deadly boring as well. All you Tories kept on chanting, " He may be useless, but at least Boris is fun!" I don´t see any fun at all at present.

    So the question remains: What is Boris for?
    Simple - producing more kids than the Lib Dems have MPs...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344
    RobD said:

    Breaking

    Sky

    Boris calling cabinet meeting as of now

    Boom?
    Nah - Gordon Brown ended that.....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,509

    Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    With gangrene it's important to get rid of all the rot isn't it?
    Are you suggesting auto-decapitation ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473
    Scott_xP said:

    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248

    A bit like the WA, they will only realise what they voted for months later.
  • Heroic spin from The Sun. UK red tape the replace the EU variety and tariffs were never part of the negotiation. But if they’re on board that’s great.
  • Scott_xP said:

    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248

    The Sun having an orgasm was entirely predictable - no matter what Boris agreed or disagreed. Rupert knows that any disparaging of Boris amounts to a disparaging of Brexit itself and ultimately of his own judgement. He must satisfy his readers that they and he were right all along and everything's lovely.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,889

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Boris-bashing is boring.
    Speak for yourself, Mr Mark
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,668
    IshmaelZ said:

    USA 1,004 deaths/million on worldometer.

    It looks very likely that Supercovid is running amok in Germany
  • Heroic spin from The Sun. UK red tape the replace the EU variety and tariffs were never part of the negotiation. But if they’re on board that’s great.

    From my personal experience red tape has gone through the roof.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,473
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    I've got a touch of the Douglas Adams' about this, as soon as anyone discovers exactly what the deal is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    That tense wait to see if we have chopped our foot off or the whole leg...
    With gangrene it's important to get rid of all the rot isn't it?
    Are you suggesting auto-decapitation ?
    That would be peak Brexitmania!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,509

    ClippP said:

    Brexit is boring

    Boris is boring.
    Boris-bashing is boring.
    Sordid euphemism you have there...

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,344

    Scott_xP said:

    How many of these lines will survive closer scrutiny?

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1341869025991733248

    That's a class Sun front page.
    ....with Boris emptying his sack......
  • Heroic spin from The Sun. UK red tape the replace the EU variety and tariffs were never part of the negotiation. But if they’re on board that’s great.

    From my personal experience red tape has gone through the roof.
    Of course. The SM was all about removing red tape, barriers and friction. We've voted to put it all back again.

  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    Scott_xP said:

    Maybe just putting it off a few hours so it can be called the Christmas Eve Deal, like the Good Friday Agreement. We will refer to it as the CED in future.

    BoZo rose on Easter Sunday and delivered a deal on Christmas Eve...

    You would need to be a writer with vivid imagination to come up with that one
    The Second Coming (no laughing at the back!) may have taken on a form that no one could possibly have expected...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,575
    IshmaelZ said:

    USA 1,004 deaths/million on worldometer.

    UK = 1,015
  • Johnson and Von Der Leyen still arguing about which whorish shade of red the lipstick should be on the pig

    Unkind to bring Cameron into this particular moment of sealing Brexit.....
    Squeal Piggy!
    The chief led them, trotting steadily, exulting in his achievement. He was a chief now in truth; and he made stabbing motions with his spear. From his left hand dangled Piggy’s broken glasses.
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