The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
I took the view I would rather do something that I enjoy that maximise my income. Different choices is all and had to retrain as well not once twice after losing access to two of my chosen careers. Its not possible for everyone in the country regardless of how hard they work to be earning 6 figure salaries. Only so many of those jobs going round
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
If you can afford it, The Academy (right behind the Hampstead Butcher & Providore) on the High Street is absolutely fantastic. It's both very academic, and very relaxed.
My daughter was there and absolutely loved it.
Thanks, we're (hopefully) moving to East Finchley early next year, just going through the process now so it's a bit of a hike. We really wanted somewhere with at least 4 bedrooms and a garden and that was out of our price range in Hampstead so it will be goodbye for a while. The fees look ok though and I like the idea of 6-13 rather than ending at 11.
We've managed to find a really decently sized fixer upper for just under £1.2m that also hasn't had the attic developed, just need to get the thing completed and our current place sold, we just had someone make an offer at asking price so hopefully it's all going to work out.
Isn't East Finchley a bit of a shithole ?
You'll have to describe it as Garden Suburb borders.
Hope things go well.
I thought one said "oh, I'm just off The Bishop's Avenue"
The response to that claim is "so you live in Hendon".
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
From that link, unemployed former MP Paul Sweeney writes: Having previously assisted many constituents with their problems dealing with the notorious Department for Work and Pensions, I approached the idea of applying for Universal Credit with some trepidation, knowing the tortuous experiences many others had gone through, but for me at least I found the online application reasonably straightforward, mainly due to the Government simplifying the normally Kafkaesque process under the pressure of an unprecedented volume of applications.
This was a revelation in itself for me, that all the hardship that so many of my former constituents had experienced in just trying to access the social security system could be easily removed at the whim of the Government, that this insidious psychological warfare against unemployed and disabled people was actually all by conscious design.
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
Seriously though, Obesity in itself is considered an additional risk factor around Covid. Whilst many severely obese people may have other conditions that rule them in to the higher risk cohort, how do you identify and contact through the plain fat people?
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
I'd prefer "lose some weight or go to the back of the line".
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
with over half the English hospital deaths being those 80+
I'd be interested to know how many people would need to be vaccinated, and in what age groups, to reduce the number of deaths by 90%, 95%, 99%, etc. It may be less than people assume. For instance, you may not need to vaccinate many people under 60 or 50 (except those with serious health conditions) because it doesn't matter if they're spreading it around if nearly all of the people in the vulnerable groups have already been vaccinated. Obviously it would be better if younger people didn't have it, but hardly any deaths are in those age categories. (To reiterate, I'm not suggesting you don't vaccinate young and healthy people, just that you've already solved most of the problem before that stage).
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
Seriously though, Obesity in itself is considered an additional risk factor around Covid. Whilst many severely obese people may have other conditions that rule them in to the higher risk cohort, how do you identify and contact through the plain fat people?
They are probably already caught in the system, but there do seem to be extraordinary numbers of younger but seriously obese people who trundle around in mobility scooters. They must be very high risk for Covid.
This is quite informative, although it's from July.
"8 in 10 People Who Have Died of COVID-19 Were Age 65 or Older – But the Share Varies By State
A new KFF analysis finds that 80 percent of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. to date were age 65 or older, though the share varies considerably by state — from a high of 94 percent in Idaho to a low of 70 percent in the District of Columbia."
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
Seriously though, Obesity in itself is considered an additional risk factor around Covid. Whilst many severely obese people may have other conditions that rule them in to the higher risk cohort, how do you identify and contact through the plain fat people?
They are probably already caught in the system, but there do seem to be extraordinary numbers of younger but seriously obese people who trundle around in mobility scooters. They must be very high risk for Covid.
Might be rose tinted glasses but when I went to school in the seventies and early 80's I don't remember there being that many fat kids. Yes we had them but they were the exception
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Yes wasn't claiming it wasn't merely saying those people are going to swanky restaurants in the southeast on the whole. I suspect Pizza bianco isn't a normal offer for most restaurants they might visit in their price range
This is quite informative, although it's from July.
"8 in 10 People Who Have Died of COVID-19 Were Age 65 or Older – But the Share Varies By State
A new KFF analysis finds that 80 percent of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. to date were age 65 or older, though the share varies considerably by state — from a high of 94 percent in Idaho to a low of 70 percent in the District of Columbia."
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
There's never any lack of grotty, over-priced takeaways in the deprived areas.
Almost half of the fast-food outlets in England are in the most deprived parts of the country, figures show, raising fresh concerns about child obesity in poorer areas.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
There's never any lack of grotty, over-priced takeaways in the deprived areas.
Almost half of the fast-food outlets in England are in the most deprived parts of the country, figures show, raising fresh concerns about child obesity in poorer areas.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Understand the first point but the second, why were they not taught? Their parents also didn't have time perhaps?
This is why IMHO we should be teaching cooking as a mandatory topic in schools.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Understand the first point but the second, why were they not taught? Their parents also didn't have time perhaps?
This is why IMHO we should be teaching cooking as a mandatory topic in schools.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Understand the first point but the second, why were they not taught? Their parents also didn't have time perhaps?
This is why IMHO we should be teaching cooking as a mandatory topic in schools.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Also it doesn't take a lot of effort to buy a bag of apples and eat them. Another myth: about healthy food being "difficult to prepare". Patronising nonsense again.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
Also it doesn't take a lot of effort to buy a bag of apples and eat them. Another myth: about healthy food being "difficult to prepare". Patronising nonsense again.
It is easier to microwave a ready meal than cook some vegetables yourself though. A diet of apples doesn't sound all that appetizing.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
I learned cooking while in the Scouts, even got the badge for it. Now I'm just too lazy to cook
I guess my point is that eating badly isn't only reserved for the poor, I am not disputing that it's a lot easier for me to have changed my life however.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I am speculating I will admit as I home cook virtually everything I eat from scratch. But I have friends that live on ready meals certainly because when they have tried recipes they saw on the tv it didnt turn out so well as all they had tried before that was making beans on toast
I genuinely think/hope things like Hello Fresh will become more commonplace, they seem like a fantastic idea to me to get more people cooking properly.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Similarly, I have no fruit in the dog on pizza race.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
When I was growing up ready meals weren't so much a thing it was boil in the bag vesta curries which were like eating a 10 year old odoureater insole. We also didnt have much in the way of fast food restaurants or takeaways. In fact my home town had a fish and chip shop and a mr spud but they were only open about 6 months a year during holiday season
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
I learned cooking while in the Scouts, even got the badge for it. Now I'm just too lazy to cook
I never sadly got to join the scouts as was banned by our local akela from joining the cub scouts on the grounds I would be a bad influence
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
I learned cooking while in the Scouts, even got the badge for it. Now I'm just too lazy to cook
I never sadly got to join the scouts as was banned by our local akela from joining the cub scouts on the grounds I would be a bad influence
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I think Bolognese was the first thing I learnt to cook, of course it helps having a parent who cooked for a living.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
I learned cooking while in the Scouts, even got the badge for it. Now I'm just too lazy to cook
I never sadly got to join the scouts as was banned by our local akela from joining the cub scouts on the grounds I would be a bad influence
A rebel even as a kid?
shrugs same woman that banned me from the pub she worked on my 18th birthday as they didnt want my kind in there.
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
Seriously though, Obesity in itself is considered an additional risk factor around Covid. Whilst many severely obese people may have other conditions that rule them in to the higher risk cohort, how do you identify and contact through the plain fat people?
They are probably already caught in the system, but there do seem to be extraordinary numbers of younger but seriously obese people who trundle around in mobility scooters. They must be very high risk for Covid.
Might be rose tinted glasses but when I went to school in the seventies and early 80's I don't remember there being that many fat kids. Yes we had them but they were the exception
I don't see many fat kids in the schools round here. Plenty of fat parents, mind. Either fat kids are unevenly distributed round the country or there is something wrong with the measurements -- are we still using decades' old height/weight norms from a time when most kids were undernourished (and White) perhaps?
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsby
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
Govt. needs to get creative. Work with Greggs. "Buy two pies, get a free vaccine appointment..."
Seriously though, Obesity in itself is considered an additional risk factor around Covid. Whilst many severely obese people may have other conditions that rule them in to the higher risk cohort, how do you identify and contact through the plain fat people?
They are probably already caught in the system, but there do seem to be extraordinary numbers of younger but seriously obese people who trundle around in mobility scooters. They must be very high risk for Covid.
Might be rose tinted glasses but when I went to school in the seventies and early 80's I don't remember there being that many fat kids. Yes we had them but they were the exception
I don't see many fat kids in the schools round here. Plenty of fat parents, mind. Either fat kids are unevenly distributed round the country or there is something wrong with the measurements -- are we still using decades' old height/weight norms from a time when most kids were undernourished (and White) perhaps?
I see them all the time here, walking down the street and you can see the rolls of fat round there waist and just dont remember that in my day. May as I say be rose tinted glasses of course
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsby
That depends on where in the South East, you can get a 1 bedroom flat in Margate for £550 a month for example
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsby
That depends on where in the South East, you can get a 1 bedroom flat in Margate for £550 a month for example
Maybe the entire Brexit negotiations should have been suspended while the Covid-19 epidemic is ongoing. It seems stupid to try and deal with two huge crises at the same time.
Margate, an easy commute into Central lol. What are you smoking
an easy commute or a cheap commute, strangely one of my friends is from margate and he still finds it more cost effective to live in slough than commute from margate despite paying double the rent
Margate, an easy commute into Central lol. What are you smoking
an easy commute or a cheap commute, strangely one of my friends is from margate and he still finds it more cost effective to live in slough than commute from margate despite paying double the rent
Historically it was negligible in terms of cost computing from Surrey/Hants everyday compared to living in London. Might be different now
Margate, an easy commute into Central lol. What are you smoking
Besides you do realise that central london isnt the only job area in the southeast. Try commuting from margate to maidenhead everyday for example
I don't think its a secret that I hail from cornwall, I had to move to the southeast in 87 because I could no longer make a living in cornwall. I was offered a job in slough where should I have lived to give me a decent commute at a decent rent that didn't leave me feeling I was spending most of what I earned on rent? Back then even renting a room in slough was a signifcant portion of what I earned
IBAS have released a statement on the US election...
Not good news for Trump backers, gives exchanges room to settle things before everything is 100% legal watertight. Particularly since that point may be reached years later...
We fully understand the concerns that people would hold that their bets have been treated unfairly, particularly if they also have reason to believe that the contest itself was not conducted fairly. However, we also have to consider the practical barriers that come with establishing the end point of a bet. At some stage a decision has to be made that the time is right to say who has won for betting purposes. For the vast majority of bettors, they would prefer that point to be reached sooner rather than later.
The trouble with Betfair having inadequate rules subject to ad hoc changes, is they satisfied neither side. Betfair could have made clear and authoritative statements but instead management kept its head down while its CS team offered inconsistent advice to different players. And Betfair has form with earlier political markets from which it (and, dare I say, we) apparently learned nothing.
Good piece from IBAS. Their final remarks are particularly releveant to some of the discussions on the subject that we have had on the subject.
"At some stage a decision has to be made that the time is right to say who has won for betting purposes. For the vast majority of bettors, they would prefer that point to be reached sooner rather than later."
Maybe the entire Brexit negotiations should have been suspended while the Covid-19 epidemic is ongoing. It seems stupid to try and deal with two huge crises at the same time.
Or an opportunity to sneak something by and bury bad news?
To be honest, I have this thought they will carry on talking anyway even beyond the 31st, so there won’t be this, it wasn’t just fish, always were miles apart on fundamentals moment. But how do we know it ever was 95% done? There are fundamentals to EU trading deals that cut across everything. The agreement with US never went to 11th hour and agreed, it was junked in the bin. Any UK US trade discussion could go same way for same reasons. You call them a friend, you tell party at conference of the opportunities, you sell a deal to your people as opening up markets for your business, but your old friend/competitor had to get something in return, you have to surrender that or there is unlikely to be agreement.
And there is a completely over looked dynamic, the lazy British media have completely missed. EU are not just talking to us. Even though the Chinese economy uses slave labour from topto bottom, EU feel they can surmount labour challenges and sign historic deal into Chinese markets imminently.
“We couldn’t get the little UK one over the line, but we’ve got the big China one.” You know what I mean? As Mary Poppins sang
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I am speculating I will admit as I home cook virtually everything I eat from scratch. But I have friends that live on ready meals certainly because when they have tried recipes they saw on the tv it didnt turn out so well as all they had tried before that was making beans on toast
I think that it's less inability, and more a question of time and effort. I left home with no cooking ability at-all, a combination of google and a little bit of native whit and I'm now a fairly competent cook. That said, I don't cook all that much because I frequently stagger in from work shattered, at which point a frozen pizza or cheese topped crumpets suddenly seems a much more appealing concept than settling down to make authentic Dan Dan Noodles or Chicken and Green Pepper Tagliatelle. I enjoy cooking, but not when I'm tired and hungry. This issue is particularly bad because I'm single - just me to cook for and also only me to do the cooking!
Probably this is one of the trade offs from the increasing numbers of women in the workforce over the last 50 years - it means an increasing numbers of families where both parent stagger in through the door worn out every night, and don't really feel inclined to cook (especially not when it's new, novel and difficult).
There is also the "standard ingredient" issue. My kitchen has a lot of stuff in it which one doesn't use a lot of in any given meal, but without which cooking options are rather limited. Spices, oils, different sorts of flour and sugar etc. One of the problems when I first started serious cooking was that I had to keep going and buying a load of stuff, in order to add a teaspoon of this and that to a recipe. It's not a vast investment, but it's probably a couple of hundred quid all told. The trouble is, it makes the first few meals come out pretty expensive, which is OK if like me you have a few quid saved, but not great if you are hovering on the breadline.
"China is suffering mass power cuts in the south, prompting cities to dim street lights, suspend factory production and tell office blocks to turn off heating unless the temperature falls below 3C.
The electricity crisis appears to have been prompted by a shortage of coal after Beijing banned imports from Australia. China imposed trade bans against Australia after Canberra demanded an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus and criticised Beijing’s treatment of the people of Hong Kong." (£)
Maybe the entire Brexit negotiations should have been suspended while the Covid-19 epidemic is ongoing. It seems stupid to try and deal with two huge crises at the same time.
I wonder whether that will be the line for a less than optimal deal...."given the circumstances etc etc..." historically the coincidence (and impact) of COVID may be fundamental to how BREXIT is viewed (a distraction puts it mildly)
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsby
That depends on where in the South East, you can get a 1 bedroom flat in Margate for £550 a month for example
Whoop Whoop. My mortgage on a cheap 3 bed house bought in 2012 with a small deposit in a fairly nice place commutable from Manchester is half that. A 1 bed flat here is more like £300pcm to rent, £550pcm gets you a reasonable house. I don't earn anything like £33k - I could live like a king on that much cash (I genuinely don't know what one earth I'd spend it on).
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
I don't know if it's true on average that poorer people eat worse food and if it is true, why is that?
There are two reasons for it mainly
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
Perhaps they try to copy some meal they've seen on tv and are disappointed with the result.
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I am speculating I will admit as I home cook virtually everything I eat from scratch. But I have friends that live on ready meals certainly because when they have tried recipes they saw on the tv it didnt turn out so well as all they had tried before that was making beans on toast
I think that it's less inability, and more a question of time and effort. I left home with no cooking ability at-all, a combination of google and a little bit of native whit and I'm now a fairly competent cook. That said, I don't cook all that much because I frequently stagger in from work shattered, at which point a frozen pizza or cheese topped crumpets suddenly seems a much more appealing concept than settling down to make authentic Dan Dan Noodles or Chicken and Green Pepper Tagliatelle. I enjoy cooking, but not when I'm tired and hungry. This issue is particularly bad because I'm single - just me to cook for and also only me to do the cooking!
Probably this is one of the trade offs from the increasing numbers of women in the workforce over the last 50 years - it means an increasing numbers of families where both parent stagger in through the door worn out every night, and don't really feel inclined to cook (especially not when it's new, novel and difficult).
There is also the "standard ingredient" issue. My kitchen has a lot of stuff in it which one doesn't use a lot of in any given meal, but without which cooking options are rather limited. Spices, oils, different sorts of flour and sugar etc. One of the problems when I first started serious cooking was that I had to keep going and buying a load of stuff, in order to add a teaspoon of this and that to a recipe. It's not a vast investment, but it's probably a couple of hundred quid all told. The trouble is, it makes the first few meals come out pretty expensive, which is OK if like me you have a few quid saved, but not great if you are hovering on the breadline.
Yes the small portion of this when the average shop only sells a multiple of something is an issue. Not sure how you deal with that though and I admit I often end up wasting stuff that I just havent had to use a lot of
"China is suffering mass power cuts in the south, prompting cities to dim street lights, suspend factory production and tell office blocks to turn off heating unless the temperature falls below 3C.
The electricity crisis appears to have been prompted by a shortage of coal after Beijing banned imports from Australia. China imposed trade bans against Australia after Canberra demanded an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus and criticised Beijing’s treatment of the people of Hong Kong." (£)
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino's
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.
Each to their own, you keep doing you Max
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south east
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsby
That depends on where in the South East, you can get a 1 bedroom flat in Margate for £550 a month for example
Whoop Whoop. My mortgage on a cheap 3 bed house bought in 2012 with a small deposit in a fairly nice place commutable from Manchester is half that. A 1 bed flat here is more like £300pcm to rent, £550pcm gets you a reasonable house. I don't earn anything like £33k - I could live like a king on that much cash (I genuinely don't know what one earth I'd spend it on).
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
Yesterday I cooked for my family. I made prawn risotto with frozen peas.
The total cost of the meal for four (including lunch for me and my wife today) was about $10.
If I'd skipped on the prawns it would probably have been $3.
Rice, onion, olive oil and a little bit of butter cost very little.
"China is suffering mass power cuts in the south, prompting cities to dim street lights, suspend factory production and tell office blocks to turn off heating unless the temperature falls below 3C.
The electricity crisis appears to have been prompted by a shortage of coal after Beijing banned imports from Australia. China imposed trade bans against Australia after Canberra demanded an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus and criticised Beijing’s treatment of the people of Hong Kong." (£)
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
Yesterday I cooked for my family. I made prawn risotto with frozen peas.
The total cost of the meal for four (including lunch for me and my wife today) was about $10.
If I'd skipped on the prawns it would probably have been $3.
Rice, onion, olive oil and a little bit of butter cost very little.
Gosh way to misunderstand my point which is people that cant afford high end restaurants tend to fall back on what they have sampled. I would argue fillet is better than say rump which is what more will have sampled. Had plenty of inedible rump steaks fillet is more reliably edible
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
Guido only has to publish it. No leaking back to the government required. I think the Academy does the same thing for the Oscars previews.
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
Guido only has to publish it. No leaking back to the government required. I think the Academy does the same thing for the Oscars previews.
Oh, I'd not realised that Guido was stupid enough to publish an image rather than the text or just the gist.
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
Guido only has to publish it. No leaking back to the government required. I think the Academy does the same thing for the Oscars previews.
Oh, I'd not realised that Guido was stupid enough to publish an image rather than the text or just the gist.
Nothing lends credibility than a good screenshot. A copy and paste is meaningless.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruit
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
Guido only has to publish it. No leaking back to the government required. I think the Academy does the same thing for the Oscars previews.
Oh, I'd not realised that Guido was stupid enough to publish an image rather than the text or just the gist.
Nothing lends credibility than a good screenshot. A copy and paste is meaningless.
Not retyping is a failure on "How to Leak" basics, surely?
Though there is something delicious about a leak about leaking.
Rather like Polly Toynbee's famous accusation that one of her critics-of-the-wrong-details was a "pendant".
From the Mail link: It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
Guido only has to publish it. No leaking back to the government required. I think the Academy does the same thing for the Oscars previews.
Oh, I'd not realised that Guido was stupid enough to publish an image rather than the text or just the gist.
Nothing lends credibility than a good screenshot. A copy and paste is meaningless.
Not retyping is a failure on "How to Leak" basics, surely?
Though there is something delicious about a leak about leaking.
Rather like Polly Toynbee's famous accusation that one of her critics-of-the-wrong-details was a "pendant".
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
I treated myself to a piece of fillet last week; delicious.
Just don't overcook it. Anything more than "rare" is unconscionable.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
Not if you're the unfortunate animal being eaten.
If you’re the unfortunate animal being eaten you will still desire to eat your way through your own fat?
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
Given the absolute state of a succession of Tory education ministers, the need for a strawman is not a surprise. Tickles a few prejudices at the same time.
We should have extended Lockdown 2.0 to be up to Christmas, as I called for at the time.
We came out far too early, once again the cases were simply not low enough.
We must get cases down to the 10s before we come out again.
We are never going to get cases down to the 10s.
We definitely could if we wanted to.
Well, we can pursue an elimination strategy. Unfortunately this would involve turning troops out onto the streets, shutting down more or less everything and punishing anybody caught outside the home for virtually any reason with a bullet in the back of the head.
Nothing short of total, hermetic self-isolation for individual households will stop this thing in its tracks, and that cannot be realistically achieved. We are stuck with it until the vaccination programme gets round enough people to break the chains of transmission. As I said earlier today, trying to suppress Covid is like trying to suppress the common cold. You can slow it down a little with really draconian measures, but those needed to make it stop altogether would kill a large fraction of the whole population. It is hopeless.
I doubt that. There will be an acceptance that the thing exists. The key issue is protecting the most vulnerable percentage of the population who could end up in hospital plus those who treat them/work with them at close proximity. Despite the buying of 10s of millions of vaccine doses I am not wholly convinced there will be a universal vaccination move by the end of this, it will be similar to flu vaccines where the cohort who are seen as most important to get the jab has widened over time. The rest of us can take our chances. If it was compulsory I'd have few issues getting the jab but if not, I probably wouldn't rush because I have limited consistent exposure to those considered high risk and am otherwise fit and healthy. Speaking to the same stats person who enlightened me on the contribution of schools and universities to the rising test positivity rate (which apparently is the one stat the causal observer needs to pay attention to but probably doesn't), they were of the view that the most critical 10%-15% of the population will be vaccinated before spring. If they can be protected, the hospitalisation rate, which is what really scares the crap out of politicians. is going to fall.
I've always said since Day 1 of this saga that politicians are primarily driven by the optics of the health service being over-run. Its probably no co-incidence that in Northern Ireland the stories about one hospital having a particularly hard time (and strangely often does be focus of stories about service issues) may have had an impact on the decisions made today. What was less mentioned is that another hospital 15 miles away still has spare capacity.
10-15%, however long that ends up taking, ought to make a real difference to death rates but the hospitals will still be screaming over admissions. We're going to be nowhere near the end of this until they've at least got as far as lancing everybody over about 60 or 65 and everyone who's medically vulnerable on top of that. The race in that regard is to get them all done before yet another tsunami of new cases crashes on the shore in Autumn 2021. The first half of next year is already a lost cause.
Only then can we stagger out across the smouldering ruins of the economy and start trying to put everything back together again, though of course that will be hard-to-impossible with the vast numbers of structurally unemployed workers and the ever growing horde of dependent pensioners that what's left of the tax base is going to be expected to carry.
We'll see, I haven't heard any suggestions that the profile ending up in hospital now is massively different than the profile throughout, i.e. disproportionately older, pre existing conditions, or plain unhealthy ie already largely be in the 10-15% cohort. Having said that I'm not sure how you diplomatically put across the idea that if you are severely obese that you should be in the early list for a vaccine.
with over half the English hospital deaths being those 80+
Is there any data to show whether time spent in hospital varies by age? Number of patient-days is probably a better measure of NHS load than simple admissions.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
Given the absolute state of a succession of Tory education ministers, the need for a strawman is not a surprise. Tickles a few prejudices at the same time.
The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
Given the absolute state of a succession of Tory education ministers, the need for a strawman is not a surprise. Tickles a few prejudices at the same time.
(FWIW, Foucault is shit, but that is irrelevant.)
The irony is, although I do have to include most of the things complained of in various parts of the PSHE lessons I teach, all of them stem from Mr Gove’s ‘British Values’ bullshit.
So either he and his party approve of this stuff, or they have introduced yet another reform which has exactly the opposite effect of what they intended.
Surprising to see so many deaths this time in Germany compared to last spring. Any reason for this?
My guess is, they simply got complacent.
Not that we’re any better. A friend of mine works for one of the country’s largest suppliers of cleaning products. Sales of hand sanitiser are down 75% on the peak, just as the virus is surging. January is going to be absolutely brutal.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
Not if you're the unfortunate animal being eaten.
If you’re the unfortunate animal being eaten you will still desire to eat your way through your own fat?
"Unadulterated pure pleasure"? After two years as a pescatarian I can think of no better sense of achievement and self improvement available. A few months of getting used to it and the advantages are infinite
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
Not if you're the unfortunate animal being eaten.
If you’re the unfortunate animal being eaten you will still desire to eat your way through your own fat?
"Unadulterated pure pleasure"? After two years as a pescatarian I can think of no better sense of achievement and self improvement available. A few months of getting used to it and the advantages are infinite
Just to clarify - does that mean you get unadulterated pure pleasure from eating your own fat?
Surprising to see so many deaths this time in Germany compared to last spring. Any reason for this?
My guess is, they simply got complacent.
Not that we’re any better. A friend of mine works for one of the country’s largest suppliers of cleaning products. Sales of hand sanitiser are down 75% on the peak, just as the virus is surging. January is going to be absolutely brutal.
Sales of toilet roll will be well down from the peak, as well, and not because people aren’t using it.
From that link, unemployed former MP Paul Sweeney writes: Having previously assisted many constituents with their problems dealing with the notorious Department for Work and Pensions, I approached the idea of applying for Universal Credit with some trepidation, knowing the tortuous experiences many others had gone through, but for me at least I found the online application reasonably straightforward, mainly due to the Government simplifying the normally Kafkaesque process under the pressure of an unprecedented volume of applications.
This was a revelation in itself for me, that all the hardship that so many of my former constituents had experienced in just trying to access the social security system could be easily removed at the whim of the Government, that this insidious psychological warfare against unemployed and disabled people was actually all by conscious design.
The account rings true with people I know who have lost partners through lockdown pressure etc.
Personally my sympathy is alloyed, as Sweeney ended another MPs career by going public with sexual allegations which were found to be without any foundation when independently investigated, six weeks before a General Election.
The idea that less well-off people can't afford to buy healthy food is patronising nonsense. It's been debunked many times.
Which is not what I was arguing, people I know eat healthily what I said is they are unlikely to be exposed to the sort of things cooked in upper end restaurants and so think I will try making that. Instead if they are cooking a meal at home they will stick to tried and trusted things that are still healthy than saying I will make a nice bechamel sauce using gorgonzola and parmesan the spread it on a pizza base with walnuts and pine kernels or what ever. Instead they will buy a fillet steak and some new potatos, carrots, baby corn etc
Fillet steak: the most expensive and least tasty cut of meat.
The fad, especially in America, is for Ribeye and T-bones etc. The theory is that the marbling gives greater flavour.
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
Not if you're the unfortunate animal being eaten.
If you’re the unfortunate animal being eaten you will still desire to eat your way through your own fat?
"Unadulterated pure pleasure"? After two years as a pescatarian I can think of no better sense of achievement and self improvement available. A few months of getting used to it and the advantages are infinite
Just to clarify - does that mean you get unadulterated pure pleasure from eating your own fat?
Because that sounds quite niche to me.
A bit of textural analysis. The first part of Mysticrose's post was a description of the delight of eating his way through an animal described in the sort of detail that would make a talking lioness blush.
This was what I was replying to. My pescatarianism was just to give my post context.
Beijing is planning to distribute 100 million doses of the vaccines made by Chinese firms Sinopharm and Sinovac Biotech Ltd
China has granted emergency-use status to two candidate vaccines from Sinopharm and one from Sinovac Biotech. It has approved a fourth, from CanSino Biologics Inc, for military use.
The SCMP report said Chinese officials have been asked to complete the first 50 million doses by 15 January and the second by 5 February.
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Having previously assisted many constituents with their problems dealing with the notorious Department for Work and Pensions, I approached the idea of applying for Universal Credit with some trepidation, knowing the tortuous experiences many others had gone through, but for me at least I found the online application reasonably straightforward, mainly due to the Government simplifying the normally Kafkaesque process under the pressure of an unprecedented volume of applications.
This was a revelation in itself for me, that all the hardship that so many of my former constituents had experienced in just trying to access the social security system could be easily removed at the whim of the Government, that this insidious psychological warfare against unemployed and disabled people was actually all by conscious design.
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65-84 86,414
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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nation&areaName=England
with over half the English hospital deaths being those 80+
"8 in 10 People Who Have Died of COVID-19 Were Age 65 or Older – But the Share Varies By State
A new KFF analysis finds that 80 percent of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. to date were age 65 or older, though the share varies considerably by state — from a high of 94 percent in Idaho to a low of 70 percent in the District of Columbia."
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/8-in-10-people-who-have-died-of-covid-19-were-age-65-or-older-but-the-share-varies-by-state/
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/annualsurveyofhoursandearnings/2020
Deprived urban poor have lower general health so at higher risk even when young ?
Almost half of the fast-food outlets in England are in the most deprived parts of the country, figures show, raising fresh concerns about child obesity in poorer areas.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/29/poorer-areas-of-england-have-more-fast-food-shops-figures-show
One is a lot of poorer people are also time poor, they might be working two jobs
secondly they were often never taught to cook so rely on ready meals because they don't have the confidence to try. A lot will have tried once or twice and cooked something less than tasty and then given up
This is why IMHO we should be teaching cooking as a mandatory topic in schools.
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1339661101533974531?s=20
Its very easy, tasty, and cheap to 'bulk out' a ready meal with a tin of chickpeas and/or some fresh or frozen veg.
I'm not nearly as good as them - and likely never will be - but I can get myself by and keep myself healthy.
As I've got into weights and so on I've started having protein smoothies as well but I still try and get as much from actual food as possible.
Completely given up biscuits and things as well and don't miss them one bit.
Only in London where average earnings are £736 a week does the median salary even top £35,000 at £38,272 a year.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/annualsurveyofhoursandearnings/2019#:~:text=In April 2019, London topped,the UK (£585).
She was a pleasant woman my mother
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/87702343#/
At least you haven't suggested I cycle the two hours every day like Philip did that time.
"At some stage a decision has to be made that the time is right to say who has won for betting purposes. For the vast majority of bettors, they would prefer that point to be reached sooner rather than later."
Quite.
To be honest, I have this thought they will carry on talking anyway even beyond the 31st, so there won’t be this, it wasn’t just fish, always were miles apart on fundamentals moment. But how do we know it ever was 95% done? There are fundamentals to EU trading deals that cut across everything. The agreement with US never went to 11th hour and agreed, it was junked in the bin. Any UK US trade discussion could go same way for same reasons. You call them a friend, you tell party at conference of the opportunities, you sell a deal to your people as opening up markets for your business, but your old friend/competitor had to get something in return, you have to surrender that or there is unlikely to be agreement.
And there is a completely over looked dynamic, the lazy British media have completely missed. EU are not just talking to us. Even though the Chinese economy uses slave labour from topto bottom, EU feel they can surmount labour challenges and sign historic deal into Chinese markets imminently.
“We couldn’t get the little UK one over the line, but we’ve got the big China one.” You know what I mean? As Mary Poppins sang
I enjoy cooking, but not when I'm tired and hungry. This issue is particularly bad because I'm single - just me to cook for and also only me to do the cooking!
Probably this is one of the trade offs from the increasing numbers of women in the workforce over the last 50 years - it means an increasing numbers of families where both parent stagger in through the door worn out every night, and don't really feel inclined to cook (especially not when it's new, novel and difficult).
There is also the "standard ingredient" issue. My kitchen has a lot of stuff in it which one doesn't use a lot of in any given meal, but without which cooking options are rather limited. Spices, oils, different sorts of flour and sugar etc. One of the problems when I first started serious cooking was that I had to keep going and buying a load of stuff, in order to add a teaspoon of this and that to a recipe. It's not a vast investment, but it's probably a couple of hundred quid all told. The trouble is, it makes the first few meals come out pretty expensive, which is OK if like me you have a few quid saved, but not great if you are hovering on the breadline.
The electricity crisis appears to have been prompted by a shortage of coal after Beijing banned imports from Australia. China imposed trade bans against Australia after Canberra demanded an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus and criticised Beijing’s treatment of the people of Hong Kong." (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/mass-blackouts-after-china-cuts-australian-coal-imports-phx3fgvtg
Yesterday I cooked for my family. I made prawn risotto with frozen peas.
The total cost of the meal for four (including lunch for me and my wife today) was about $10.
If I'd skipped on the prawns it would probably have been $3.
Rice, onion, olive oil and a little bit of butter cost very little.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9065751/Ministerial-aide-sacked-probe-sharing-letter-urging-Tories-stop-leaking.html
It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
https://order-order.com/2020/12/17/leaked-chief-whip-writes-to-ppss-warning-them-not-to-leak/
It's a myth.
Come around to my place some time and I'll serve you one of my lightly griddled 30-day cured fillet of the finest quality. No sauce. Just unadulterated pure pleasure. You will never taste any steak better. And thereafter you will be cured of the desire to munch your way through animal fat.
Though there is something delicious about a leak about leaking.
Rather like Polly Toynbee's famous accusation that one of her critics-of-the-wrong-details was a "pendant".
Just don't overcook it. Anything more than "rare" is unconscionable.
(Pickled herring update: still not here).
Tickles a few prejudices at the same time.
(FWIW, Foucault is shit, but that is irrelevant.)
So either he and his party approve of this stuff, or they have introduced yet another reform which has exactly the opposite effect of what they intended.
Not that we’re any better. A friend of mine works for one of the country’s largest suppliers of cleaning products. Sales of hand sanitiser are down 75% on the peak, just as the virus is surging. January is going to be absolutely brutal.
Because that sounds quite niche to me.
Personally my sympathy is alloyed, as Sweeney ended another MPs career by going public with sexual allegations which were found to be without any foundation when independently investigated, six weeks before a General Election.
This was what I was replying to. My pescatarianism was just to give my post context.
China has granted emergency-use status to two candidate vaccines from Sinopharm and one from Sinovac Biotech. It has approved a fourth, from CanSino Biologics Inc, for military use.
The SCMP report said Chinese officials have been asked to complete the first 50 million doses by 15 January and the second by 5 February.