Is Smarkets a firm we can trust in your view? My last interaction with them was them saying they'd charge me for having an inactive account, and clearly it was only inactive because they were so poor.
Do you (or others) know who their current backers are now?
You seem reasonably positive about them in that you're posting their prices, but I presume you'll have pondered their profile a little beforehand.
Smarkets sbk app has good odds on premier league football, often beating betfair - and all without commission.
I can recommend.
Be aware though, their multiple odds are a bit scammy - they multiply the odds then cut them a bit. Also their limits are a bit crap.
But for single bets on major sports, sbk is a decent enough bookie, imo
Everyone needs to move to Betdaq. Faultless this POTUS cycle
Yes, I'll be doing that as soon as Betfair pay out. Maybe Betfair know people will be doing that, which is why they are reluctant to settle.
Are we being a bit unfair to Betfair??
The cynic in me says that they are running the markets as long as than can for the extra commission.
But, then again, it`s all to do with that word "projected" isn`t it? Thinking it through, projected by a news network isn`t sufficient, but that in combination with a Trump concession would be sufficient, I`d say.
In the absence of a concession I guess it`s state certification which, I suppose, "projects" the winner of that state.
I think I`d give BF the benefit of the doubt on this as long as they settle on state certification.
If Betfair did not mean projected, they should not have said projected. It's probably cock-up rather than conspiracy to earn more commission but this is not the first time Betfair has done this on political markets. Some burnt their fingers on Brexit, others on Theresa May's resignation. If there is a conspiracy, it is imo more likely to protect multi-million pound layers than commission.
Surely "double jeopardy" protections don't apply to parties like Labour?
"Double jeopardy" is Americanese for a rule in criminal law which no longer applies in E & W and was called autrefois acquit when it did, and has no conceivable relevance to Corbyn's case.
Pardon, literally, my French. They must have named it before we got our sovereignty back.
It isn't strictly true that it no longer exists in England & Wales. There were exceptions introduced in 2003 for specified serious offences where there is compelling new evidence. You can still argue autrefois acquit if it's shoplifting or even if it's more serious but there's no game-changing new evidence. And of course you can still argue autrefois convict - the other type of double jeopardy where you've already been convicted and paid your penalty.
Absolutely right, culpable imprecision on my part.
The key thing with legal French is that it is correct to pronounce it as unFrenchly as possible: oaterfoys, no namby-pamby r-rolling autrefois nonsense.
Is Smarkets a firm we can trust in your view? My last interaction with them was them saying they'd charge me for having an inactive account, and clearly it was only inactive because they were so poor.
Do you (or others) know who their current backers are now?
You seem reasonably positive about them in that you're posting their prices, but I presume you'll have pondered their profile a little beforehand.
Smarkets sbk app has good odds on premier league football, often beating betfair - and all without commission.
I can recommend.
Be aware though, their multiple odds are a bit scammy - they multiply the odds then cut them a bit. Also their limits are a bit crap.
But for single bets on major sports, sbk is a decent enough bookie, imo
Everyone needs to move to Betdaq. Faultless this POTUS cycle
Yes, I'll be doing that as soon as Betfair pay out. Maybe Betfair know people will be doing that, which is why they are reluctant to settle.
Are we being a bit unfair to Betfair??
The cynic in me says that they are running the markets as long as than can for the extra commission.
But, then again, it`s all to do with that word "projected" isn`t it? Thinking it through, projected by a news network isn`t sufficient, but that in combination with a Trump concession would be sufficient, I`d say.
In the absence of a concession I guess it`s state certification which, I suppose, "projects" the winner of that state.
I think I`d give BF the benefit of the doubt on this as long as they settle on state certification.
If Betfair did not mean projected, they should not have said projected. It's probably cock-up rather than conspiracy to earn more commission but this is not the first time Betfair has done this on political markets. Some burnt their fingers on Brexit, others on Theresa May's resignation. If there is a conspiracy, it is imo more likely to protect multi-million pound layers than commission.
If the electoral college votes were flipped by nefarious governors, SoS and legislatures (They won't be) - Betfair has the mother of all false markets on their hands.
Is Smarkets a firm we can trust in your view? My last interaction with them was them saying they'd charge me for having an inactive account, and clearly it was only inactive because they were so poor.
Do you (or others) know who their current backers are now?
You seem reasonably positive about them in that you're posting their prices, but I presume you'll have pondered their profile a little beforehand.
Smarkets sbk app has good odds on premier league football, often beating betfair - and all without commission.
I can recommend.
Be aware though, their multiple odds are a bit scammy - they multiply the odds then cut them a bit. Also their limits are a bit crap.
But for single bets on major sports, sbk is a decent enough bookie, imo
Everyone needs to move to Betdaq. Faultless this POTUS cycle
Yes, I'll be doing that as soon as Betfair pay out. Maybe Betfair know people will be doing that, which is why they are reluctant to settle.
Are we being a bit unfair to Betfair??
The cynic in me says that they are running the markets as long as than can for the extra commission.
But, then again, it`s all to do with that word "projected" isn`t it? Thinking it through, projected by a news network isn`t sufficient, but that in combination with a Trump concession would be sufficient, I`d say.
In the absence of a concession I guess it`s state certification which, I suppose, "projects" the winner of that state.
I think I`d give BF the benefit of the doubt on this as long as they settle on state certification.
If Betfair did not mean projected, they should not have said projected. It's probably cock-up rather than conspiracy to earn more commission but this is not the first time Betfair has done this on political markets. Some burnt their fingers on Brexit, others on Theresa May's resignation. If there is a conspiracy, it is imo more likely to protect multi-million pound layers than commission.
Yeah, well they could be in trouble with multimillion pound layers for taking bets on an event that has finished and the result is known.
Surely "double jeopardy" protections don't apply to parties like Labour?
"Double jeopardy" is Americanese for a rule in criminal law which no longer applies in E & W and was called autrefois acquit when it did, and has no conceivable relevance to Corbyn's case.
Pardon, literally, my French. They must have named it before we got our sovereignty back.
It isn't strictly true that it no longer exists in England & Wales. There were exceptions introduced in 2003 for specified serious offences where there is compelling new evidence. You can still argue autrefois acquit if it's shoplifting or even if it's more serious but there's no game-changing new evidence. And of course you can still argue autrefois convict - the other type of double jeopardy where you've already been convicted and paid your penalty.
Absolutely right, culpable imprecision on my part.
The key thing with legal French is that it is correct to pronounce it as unFrenchly as possible: oaterfoys, no namby-pamby r-rolling autrefois nonsense.
Theydon BOYZ
But the Scots pronounce 'assiette' as 'ashet', which isn't too bad.
Reeves has also complained about Deloitte, claiming a lack of ‘experience’ on PPE procurement. It will be interesting to learn if she has made any similar comment to the Welsh Government, who just two months ago procured with Deloitte Consultancy Services to help arrange supply of PPE.
Reeves has also complained about Deloitte, claiming a lack of ‘experience’ on PPE procurement. It will be interesting to learn if she has made any similar comment to the Welsh Government, who just two months ago procured with Deloitte Consultancy Services to help arrange supply of PPE.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
Could be that, I suppose. Although I don't think he needs it. He's a big brand. Worthy Spoty fav but I've had a nibble of Rashford at 3.85. If they put him on the shortlist I think he wins it. But will they?
I was thinking you could back rashford in the win market and lay him in the top 3 market. Reasoning being if he's in the lineup he wins. But the price differences arent that great so I'm guessing plenty of others are thinking along the same lines..
I'd put it more like an 80% chance. He won't want to serve as PM for less time than May if he can help it, and with a big majority they can survive bad polling and local results, so unless he gives up he can cling on il then.
One for the anti-wokers (well I am too to be fairness, but all things in moderation) to get excited by - main page BBC 'Is it still ok to read Harry Potter?'
Is Smarkets a firm we can trust in your view? My last interaction with them was them saying they'd charge me for having an inactive account, and clearly it was only inactive because they were so poor.
Do you (or others) know who their current backers are now?
You seem reasonably positive about them in that you're posting their prices, but I presume you'll have pondered their profile a little beforehand.
Smarkets sbk app has good odds on premier league football, often beating betfair - and all without commission.
I can recommend.
Be aware though, their multiple odds are a bit scammy - they multiply the odds then cut them a bit. Also their limits are a bit crap.
But for single bets on major sports, sbk is a decent enough bookie, imo
Everyone needs to move to Betdaq. Faultless this POTUS cycle
Yes, I'll be doing that as soon as Betfair pay out. Maybe Betfair know people will be doing that, which is why they are reluctant to settle.
Are we being a bit unfair to Betfair??
The cynic in me says that they are running the markets as long as than can for the extra commission.
But, then again, it`s all to do with that word "projected" isn`t it? Thinking it through, projected by a news network isn`t sufficient, but that in combination with a Trump concession would be sufficient, I`d say.
In the absence of a concession I guess it`s state certification which, I suppose, "projects" the winner of that state.
I think I`d give BF the benefit of the doubt on this as long as they settle on state certification.
If Betfair did not mean projected, they should not have said projected. It's probably cock-up rather than conspiracy to earn more commission but this is not the first time Betfair has done this on political markets. Some burnt their fingers on Brexit, others on Theresa May's resignation. If there is a conspiracy, it is imo more likely to protect multi-million pound layers than commission.
If the electoral college votes were flipped by nefarious governors, SoS and legislatures (They won't be) - Betfair has the mother of all false markets on their hands.
If anything that is an argument for getting the rules right then settling on them. The rules say projected so they should settle on projected. They should, of course, have specified who was to make the projection. Betfair's racing markets are settled on the day, not on what happens a week later if the winner tests positive for a banned substance and is retrospectively disqualified.
As it happens, Betfair has settled most of the states as projected with just six left open, so they are not even consistent. Probably Betfair dashed off some rules for each market without stopping to think what might happen on the night, settled most of them in good faith and only then realised that Trump was not planning to go quietly into the night.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
He's a satirical writer so I assume the dialogue is fictional. Isn't Patel accused of bullying senior staff rather than junior employees?
Not according to Gus O'Donnell. He said the bullying was to Junior members of staff. He was quite specific. In three different departmets. He appeared to have no axes to grind.
Fourth day in a row with a week-to-week fall in cases in England. 17845 v 24540 last Friday (and 20268 the week before).
Decline started 11 days after the start of lockdown, which lines up pretty well with incubation period plus time to get tested.
Or it could be due to half term in schools -- an under-18s lockdown, if you will, consistent with the view that children might not get ill but they can certainly spread the virus.
Sounds like Mrs Patel has modelled herself on Bad Al, I mean Malcolm Tucker.
Ever since The Thick of It I have been worried some people in politics will model themselves on Tucker, as he mad acting that way cool and placed in upfront.
It's beyond ridiculous that Betfair has the Georgia market still up, the result is now certified.
Bang goes my latest theory then - of overall winner settled 23/11 on cert and settlement of PA and MI. They ought to have settled GA today if they were following that logic. If 23/11 goes by without them settling Biden as WINNER I can only think they will wait until the EC meeting on 14/12.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
I'd taken that tale as satire rather than history.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
He just won the F1 championship and he just equalled and beat Schumacher's records. So it is news.
There was a lot of news when Liverpool won their championship too.
There is coverage and there is....they should rename this tab, /sport/LewisHamilton.
Seems fair enough considering what the link is called. He's literally just won and broken all the records, what else should be spoken about on that tab?
It can be dialed down a notch nevertheless. He's one of the greatest ever, and that's a story with a lot of angles to cover, but even Liverpool winning had limits.
He's really been tested by fire this year and is probably the most improved Secretary of State. Really grown into the role.
I think everyone - the public, media, and politicians - are pretty bad at figuring out what makes a good Secretary of State. But whatever problems have existed he appears to be at the least competent in presenting and being on top of his brief to the extent he is able.
The ignorance from some here with regards to bullying is making it seem more and more obvious why some people talk to others in the way they do.
I have been bullied throughout my life, by those much taller and those much smaller than me. By all sorts of personalities, by people of all backgrounds.
The idea that Patel couldn't bully somebody because she isn't tall shows a real lack of understanding and really undermines any comments they might make about bullying now or in the future.
As some of you know, I take a hard line on bullying and I am sure that is informed by my post history. I am sure some of you think I overreact - but the comments by some today have really disappointed me, I have to be honest.
I'm going to take another breather away from this site for a while, all the best.
I sorry to hear all of that @CorrectHorseBattery and I know from my own experience how you stand up for others when you see it.
Don’t stay away too long, you make a valuable contribution to the site.
It's beyond ridiculous that Betfair has the Georgia market still up, the result is now certified.
Bang goes my latest theory then - of overall winner settled 23/11 on cert and settlement of PA and MI. They ought to have settled GA today if they were following that logic. If 23/11 goes by without them settling Biden as WINNER I can only think they will wait until the EC meeting on 14/12.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
I'd taken that tale as satire rather than history.
Certainly looks that way, but in the heat of the moment when someone is found to have done wrong people are generally a bit quick to believe anything, even if it is meant to be satire or exagerration. We've all done it with people we dislike, believing a partisan account (even if not meant to be believed) and having to roll it back. I have to be wary of believing Corbyn stories at first glance for that very reason.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
Could be that, I suppose. Although I don't think he needs it. He's a big brand. Worthy Spoty fav but I've had a nibble of Rashford at 3.85. If they put him on the shortlist I think he wins it. But will they?
I was thinking you could back rashford in the win market and lay him in the top 3 market. Reasoning being if he's in the lineup he wins. But the price differences arent that great so I'm guessing plenty of others are thinking along the same lines..
I considered exactly that and I think it just works. But I'm only doing a tenner so it wasn't really worth complicating matters. So fingers crossed they put him on the list.
Absolutely, he should be widely applauded for it. How we regulate social media is key to the survival of western democracy. We are seeing into a potential future here looking at how divided the US has become. Facebook and other companies profit from taking us there. I don't have the answers but the discussion needs to be had and ideas on regulation tested and challenged. Well done Mr Collins.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
I'd taken that tale as satire rather than history.
Certainly looks that way, but in the heat of the moment when someone is found to have done wrong people are generally a bit quick to believe anything, even if it is meant to be satire or exagerration. We've all done it with people we dislike, believing a partisan account (even if not meant to be believed) and having to roll it back. I have to be wary of believing Corbyn stories at first glance for that very reason.
Well said. I was beginning to think everyone was losing their minds on here, with Conservatives pitching milquetoast excuses as to why the proven-bully Patel can't possibly be a bully, and then people getting suckered in by obvious satire, presumably because they are against the Tories and are only too willing to believe that shouting at cleaners is just what Tories do. Relieved to see that people are noticing their mistakes. Well, some people at least.
It's beyond ridiculous that Betfair has the Georgia market still up, the result is now certified.
Bang goes my latest theory then - of overall winner settled 23/11 on cert and settlement of PA and MI. They ought to have settled GA today if they were following that logic. If 23/11 goes by without them settling Biden as WINNER I can only think they will wait until the EC meeting on 14/12.
Please could the US election authorities make their electoral system a little bit more complex, opaque and multi layered for next time. It is far too straightforward for a modern democracy.
Bakers always happier when there is a big tent involved.
Here in Kirklees btw, Labour council has lost majority due to Corbyn resignations.
That is the public explanation and one of the councillors is married to the former Corbynite MP Thelma Walker. However I believe there are also competence arguments about the leadership of the Labour group.
It's beyond ridiculous that Betfair has the Georgia market still up, the result is now certified.
You've got to be kidding me!
There is still £16k at 1.02. Up from £10k a few mins ago. Who is laying this??
Someone with £120 spare who thinks they've spotted a future trading opportunity. Sell and 1.02, and when the GOP get a state-wide recount, sell at a slightly higher price.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
Could be that, I suppose. Although I don't think he needs it. He's a big brand. Worthy Spoty fav but I've had a nibble of Rashford at 3.85. If they put him on the shortlist I think he wins it. But will they?
I was thinking you could back rashford in the win market and lay him in the top 3 market. Reasoning being if he's in the lineup he wins. But the price differences arent that great so I'm guessing plenty of others are thinking along the same lines..
I considered exactly that and I think it just works. But I'm only doing a tenner so it wasn't really worth complicating matters. So fingers crossed they put him on the list.
I doubt they will , He hasn't distinguished himself in his sport this year especially. Crazy and not like for like if up up against strong sport candidates like Hamilton (who is woke enough anyway for the woke vote) and even Ronnie O Sullivan (winning the worlds at 45)
Fourth day in a row with a week-to-week fall in cases in England. 17845 v 24540 last Friday (and 20268 the week before).
Decline started 11 days after the start of lockdown, which lines up pretty well with incubation period plus time to get tested.
Or it could be due to half term in schools -- an under-18s lockdown, if you will, consistent with the view that children might not get ill but they can certainly spread the virus.
I think half term was reflected in the plateau of reported cases averaging around 20k per day in England from the end of October up to Nov 11. Then there was a bit of a spike of about five days reflecting back-to-school and pre-lockdown activity, followed now by four days of falls reflecting start of lockdown on Nov 5.
Also, reported cases in Wales look like they're starting to go up again in the last couple of days, corresponding to their lockdown ending on Nov 9. Their recent peak in reported cases was around Nov 2, corresponding to the start of the firebreak on Oct 23.
To me that looks like a pretty consistent picture of around 10 days delay from any change in conditions to reported cases.
It's beyond ridiculous that Betfair has the Georgia market still up, the result is now certified.
Bang goes my latest theory then - of overall winner settled 23/11 on cert and settlement of PA and MI. They ought to have settled GA today if they were following that logic. If 23/11 goes by without them settling Biden as WINNER I can only think they will wait until the EC meeting on 14/12.
Right. Interesting. Maybe 8 Dec then. And if they miss that 14 Dec. I do think they need a distinct and relevant event now. There has to be logic and some compliance with the wording of their rules. They can't just use their free floating subjective judgment.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
My first employer used to say that one of the joys of being the boss was staff telling him to fuck off. Didn't do it often, but it did happen.
A good friend of mine who directed TV commercials-He did 'Levi's laundrette' -among others was so intimidating to his crew that when shooting a Tonka Toy ad in Italy he was walking backwards and though people could see what was happening no one had the courage to warn him that there was a cliff behind him. He fell and died.
The amount matched at Betfair on WH2020 is now £840m - so another £47m has been matched since this morning. Mental!
The £840 million is almost certainly mainly people (or automated bots) trading in and out (and in any case should be cut in half). The matches since this morning will be a mixture of trading and punters cashing out so they can bet elsewhere, or because they are tired of waiting or are afraid Betfair might settle on the "wrong" result: there are at least six people who might plausibly be the next president, even if Betfair rules say they can only settle on two of them.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
My first employer used to say that one of the joys of being the boss was staff telling him to fuck off. Didn't do it often, but it did happen.
A good friend of mine who directed TV commercials-He did 'Levi's laundrette' -among others was so intimidating to his crew that when shooting a Tonka Toy ad in Italy he was walking backwards and though people could see what was happening no one had the courage to warn him that there was a cliff behind him. He fell and died.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
Could be that, I suppose. Although I don't think he needs it. He's a big brand. Worthy Spoty fav but I've had a nibble of Rashford at 3.85. If they put him on the shortlist I think he wins it. But will they?
I was thinking you could back rashford in the win market and lay him in the top 3 market. Reasoning being if he's in the lineup he wins. But the price differences arent that great so I'm guessing plenty of others are thinking along the same lines..
I considered exactly that and I think it just works. But I'm only doing a tenner so it wasn't really worth complicating matters. So fingers crossed they put him on the list.
I doubt they will , He hasn't distinguished himself in his sport this year especially. Crazy and not like for like if up up against strong sport candidates like Hamilton (who is woke enough anyway for the woke vote) and even Ronnie O Sullivan (winning the worlds at 45)
Well he's banged in a few for club and country. But, yes, I take the point and you might be right. They have a bit of a call to make. We'll see.
If that vaccine timetable is accurate the government must know something about the AZ vaccine that we don't. There's no way we have enough doses from Pfizer and Moderna to get everyone a dose by the end of April.
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
My first employer used to say that one of the joys of being the boss was staff telling him to fuck off. Didn't do it often, but it did happen.
A good friend of mine who directed TV commercials-He did 'Levi's laundrette' -among others was so intimidating to his crew that when shooting a Tonka Toy ad in Italy he was walking backwards and though people could see what was happening no one had the courage to warn him that there was a cliff behind him. He fell and died.
Another day, another soft soap article on Lewis Hamilton on the BBC website....Whoever is doing his PR, certainly earning their money.
You have posted before about this. Do you suspect a ramp for Spoty?
Well....I know he just won the F1 championship again and equalled Schumacher, but there really seems to be OTT coverage. It has been literally every single day a new article for the past couple of weeks. BBC News, BBC Sport, and big focus on much wider aspects of his life.
Now is there anything coming up in the near future, where a raised positive media presence would help....
Could be that, I suppose. Although I don't think he needs it. He's a big brand. Worthy Spoty fav but I've had a nibble of Rashford at 3.85. If they put him on the shortlist I think he wins it. But will they?
I was thinking you could back rashford in the win market and lay him in the top 3 market. Reasoning being if he's in the lineup he wins. But the price differences arent that great so I'm guessing plenty of others are thinking along the same lines..
I considered exactly that and I think it just works. But I'm only doing a tenner so it wasn't really worth complicating matters. So fingers crossed they put him on the list.
I doubt they will , He hasn't distinguished himself in his sport this year especially. Crazy and not like for like if up up against strong sport candidates like Hamilton (who is woke enough anyway for the woke vote) and even Ronnie O Sullivan (winning the worlds at 45)
Well he's banged in a few for club and country. But, yes, I take the point and you might be right. They have a bit of a call to make. We'll see.
Two hurdles, I think. First is to be nominated by the BBC. Which other footballers is he up against? Second, the public vote. As it happens, I think the value is in the place market: that he will be nominated but the public might vote for the greater sporting achievements of others. You of course might say he is uncertain to be nominated but certain to win if he is, so use the win market.
If that vaccine timetable is accurate the government must know something about the AZ vaccine that we don't. There's no way we have enough doses from Pfizer and Moderna to get everyone a dose by the end of April.
I would love to think so, but evidence of government planning so far has so often been over promise, under deliver based on far too optimistic estimates of timelines. Remember the millions of antibody tests in a few weeks...
Fourth day in a row with a week-to-week fall in cases in England. 17845 v 24540 last Friday (and 20268 the week before).
Decline started 11 days after the start of lockdown, which lines up pretty well with incubation period plus time to get tested.
Or it could be due to half term in schools -- an under-18s lockdown, if you will, consistent with the view that children might not get ill but they can certainly spread the virus.
I think half term was reflected in the plateau of reported cases averaging around 20k per day in England from the end of October up to Nov 11. Then there was a bit of a spike of about five days reflecting back-to-school and pre-lockdown activity, followed now by four days of falls reflecting start of lockdown on Nov 5.
Also, reported cases in Wales look like they're starting to go up again in the last couple of days, corresponding to their lockdown ending on Nov 9. Their recent peak in reported cases was around Nov 2, corresponding to the start of the firebreak on Oct 23.
To me that looks like a pretty consistent picture of around 10 days delay from any change in conditions to reported cases.
Wales could also be schools though. What about the different regional tiers? Are their timings reflected in the data?
I can honestly say I've never watched a Briefing from the Government during Covid. However, I thought I would give Hancock's Half-Hour a chance to see if it was as good as the original.
It's not really about imparting information - it's part pep talk and part upbeat hopeful message. "We'll all get through this" would be the more apposite maxim for the podium. I didn't learn anything new but I've heard so many briefings, presentations and workshops predicated on wholly unrealistic objectives, timetables and expectations that Hancock's was nothing unusual.
It's difficult to challenge someone cold on these assertions but an hour later and some of his claims sound about as plausible as the notion 40,000 people work for Hampshire County Council.
Absolutely, he should be widely applauded for it. How we regulate social media is key to the survival of western democracy. We are seeing into a potential future here looking at how divided the US has become. Facebook and other companies profit from taking us there. I don't have the answers but the discussion needs to be had and ideas on regulation tested and challenged. Well done Mr Collins.
He absolutely should not be applauded for it what he in effect wants is social media which only says things he approves of. If you think he should be applauded I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you havent read much of what he proposes
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
I'd taken that tale as satire rather than history.
Certainly looks that way, but in the heat of the moment when someone is found to have done wrong people are generally a bit quick to believe anything, even if it is meant to be satire or exagerration. We've all done it with people we dislike, believing a partisan account (even if not meant to be believed) and having to roll it back. I have to be wary of believing Corbyn stories at first glance for that very reason.
Well said. I was beginning to think everyone was losing their minds on here, with Conservatives pitching milquetoast excuses as to why the proven-bully Patel can't possibly be a bully, and then people getting suckered in by obvious satire, presumably because they are against the Tories and are only too willing to believe that shouting at cleaners is just what Tories do. Relieved to see that people are noticing their mistakes. Well, some people at least.
Which is why normal politicians don't take the risk; if X's image is even slightly dented, they have to go, lest the stain damages the party brand. Whatever happens now, a slice of the public will hear the word "Priti" and think "bully". It may be harsh on the individual, but it's not that harsh, and them's the rules. Exhibit A is Dom in Durham. It seems Boris is too dim to learn the lesson.
Meanwhile, it might be that PP shouldn't have been unaware of the effect of her actions;
Anyway, while there's certifying, there's still counting continuing in the US elections a mere seventeen days after polling.
Currently, according to CBS News, Biden has 79,662,486 and Trump has 73,681.959 so it's about a 5,980,000 lead for Biden (51.0%-47.2%).
Some states are now calling 100% counted so presumably that makes it a final result. Those states not at 99 or 100% in terms of votes counted are:
Washington DC (95%) Illinois (98%) Iowa (98%) Maine (92%) Maryland (95%) Massachusetts (95%) New York (84%) Ohio (97%)
I don't know why New York is so slow - Westchester County is only 56% counted and Manhattan is barely 60% counted. Both are strong Biden areas and in theory there could be another 200,000 Biden votes in Manhattan alone.
I'm confident now Biden will cross 80 million votes and may end up as much as 6.25 million votes ahead of Trump - we'll see.
the BBC currently have an headline on their webite saying (no lie) "who is Priti Patel" then on the adjacent headline go on about two WAGS dispute in the high court about essentially a social media spat with the assumed knowledge that everyone will know who they are. Rather depressing
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
My first employer used to say that one of the joys of being the boss was staff telling him to fuck off. Didn't do it often, but it did happen.
A good friend of mine who directed TV commercials-He did 'Levi's laundrette' -among others was so intimidating to his crew that when shooting a Tonka Toy ad in Italy he was walking backwards and though people could see what was happening no one had the courage to warn him that there was a cliff behind him. He fell and died.
Anyway, while there's certifying, there's still counting continuing in the US elections a mere seventeen days after polling.
Currently, according to CBS News, Biden has 79,662,486 and Trump has 73,681.959 so it's about a 5,980,000 lead for Biden (51.0%-47.2%).
Some states are now calling 100% counted so presumably that makes it a final result. Those states not at 99 or 100% in terms of votes counted are:
Washington DC (95%) Illinois (98%) Iowa (98%) Maine (92%) Maryland (95%) Massachusetts (95%) New York (84%) Ohio (97%)
I don't know why New York is so slow - Westchester County is only 56% counted and Manhattan is barely 60% counted. Both are strong Biden areas and in theory there could be another 200,000 Biden votes in Manhattan alone.
I'm confident now Biden will cross 80 million votes and may end up as much as 6.25 million votes ahead of Trump - we'll see.
As I've said before NYS is slow because historically we didn't have early voting until last year, and normally absentee ballots are only issued if you have a valid reason to request one such as illness or planned absence from the county. (in practice the reasons weren't verified). We have had a huge extra number of absentee ballots as fear of contracting Covid by attending the polling place in person is allowed this year as "illness". By law the absentee ballots can't begin to be counted until after polls have closed. The county boards of elections simply aren't set up to handle the amount.
I gather from certain posts on the last thread that today is all about John Bercow and Diane Abbott. I hadn't heard much about either of them recently, any clues on why everyone's talking about them?
Bercow being refused his Peerage by Boris as a result of allegations of bullying and Priti, er, not being a bully.
Diane Abbot? Who cares?
But the enquiry said she was a bully beyond the bounds of ministerial conduct the man who did the enquiry has resigned, or have I got it all wrong.
But Johnson who is the ultimate arbiter disagreed. I should have perhaps added "according to Johnson" to my statement. It says as much about Johnson as it does Ms. Patel.
Johnson's exonoration of Priti seems to have gone down well on this board and on the backbenches, so job done!
the BBC currently have an headline on their webite saying (no lie) "who is Priti Patel" then on the adjacent headline go on about two WAGS dispute in the high court about essentially a social media spat with the assumed knowledge that everyone will know who they are. Rather depressing
Why should politicians be the most interesting or well known?
Anyway, while there's certifying, there's still counting continuing in the US elections a mere seventeen days after polling.
Currently, according to CBS News, Biden has 79,662,486 and Trump has 73,681.959 so it's about a 5,980,000 lead for Biden (51.0%-47.2%).
Some states are now calling 100% counted so presumably that makes it a final result. Those states not at 99 or 100% in terms of votes counted are:
Washington DC (95%) Illinois (98%) Iowa (98%) Maine (92%) Maryland (95%) Massachusetts (95%) New York (84%) Ohio (97%)
I don't know why New York is so slow - Westchester County is only 56% counted and Manhattan is barely 60% counted. Both are strong Biden areas and in theory there could be another 200,000 Biden votes in Manhattan alone.
I'm confident now Biden will cross 80 million votes and may end up as much as 6.25 million votes ahead of Trump - we'll see.
the BBC currently have an headline on their webite saying (no lie) "who is Priti Patel" then on the adjacent headline go on about two WAGS dispute in the high court about essentially a social media spat with the assumed knowledge that everyone will know who they are. Rather depressing
Why should politicians be the most interesting or well known?
Well she is the Home Secretary and part of a small group of people taking extraordinary decisions over life and how we live it in this year especially. The BBC could try and get the nation to point where it does not need headlines like that especially given the unique way they are funded
Absolutely, he should be widely applauded for it. How we regulate social media is key to the survival of western democracy. We are seeing into a potential future here looking at how divided the US has become. Facebook and other companies profit from taking us there. I don't have the answers but the discussion needs to be had and ideas on regulation tested and challenged. Well done Mr Collins.
He absolutely should not be applauded for it what he in effect wants is social media which only says things he approves of. If you think he should be applauded I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you havent read much of what he proposes
Absolutely, he should be widely applauded for it. How we regulate social media is key to the survival of western democracy. We are seeing into a potential future here looking at how divided the US has become. Facebook and other companies profit from taking us there. I don't have the answers but the discussion needs to be had and ideas on regulation tested and challenged. Well done Mr Collins.
He absolutely should not be applauded for it what he in effect wants is social media which only says things he approves of. If you think he should be applauded I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you havent read much of what he proposes
He has a point, but no solution. It is, at least, a start.
Don't get me wrong I don't like disinformation either but given a choice between as we are and politicians being control of what can be said I say where we are is the lesser of two evils. The latter is just a step closer to the china situation. Plus lets face it our conventional media on all sides put out there fair share of disinformation....I won't even mention lib dem election leaflets or every word that comes out of a politicians mouth
Whether that's bullying or not, that's pretty poor behaviour.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
You think Priti went on a rant about her 'little legs'?? I'd want a lip reader on the CCTV footage before I accepted that.
Sounds implausible. It sounds like she is a bad person to work for, and the defences of being an inadvertent bully are pretty darn weak, but best to stick to more credible stuff unless that can be verified.
I'd taken that tale as satire rather than history.
Certainly looks that way, but in the heat of the moment when someone is found to have done wrong people are generally a bit quick to believe anything, even if it is meant to be satire or exagerration. We've all done it with people we dislike, believing a partisan account (even if not meant to be believed) and having to roll it back. I have to be wary of believing Corbyn stories at first glance for that very reason.
Well said. I was beginning to think everyone was losing their minds on here, with Conservatives pitching milquetoast excuses as to why the proven-bully Patel can't possibly be a bully, and then people getting suckered in by obvious satire, presumably because they are against the Tories and are only too willing to believe that shouting at cleaners is just what Tories do. Relieved to see that people are noticing their mistakes. Well, some people at least.
Which is why normal politicians don't take the risk; if X's image is even slightly dented, they have to go, lest the stain damages the party brand. Whatever happens now, a slice of the public will hear the word "Priti" and think "bully". It may be harsh on the individual, but it's not that harsh, and them's the rules. Exhibit A is Dom in Durham. It seems Boris is too dim to learn the lesson.
Meanwhile, it might be that PP shouldn't have been unaware of the effect of her actions;
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Here in Kirklees btw, Labour council has lost majority due to Corbyn resignations.
You know, I might tell my CFO that something he did was "crap".
But I'd never say that to a junior employee.
https://twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1329841313144070144
https://order-order.com/2020/11/20/exclusive-goves-scorching-letter-demands-answers-on-labours-ppe-hypocrisy/
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5DdBBnrBnQt6vD2pVjZFs1Z/is-it-still-ok-to-read-harry-potter
As it happens, Betfair has settled most of the states as projected with just six left open, so they are not even consistent. Probably Betfair dashed off some rules for each market without stopping to think what might happen on the night, settled most of them in good faith and only then realised that Trump was not planning to go quietly into the night.
https://twitter.com/DamianCollins/status/1329795853096280065
We’ve Tracked Extremist Content on Facebook for Years: It Doesn’t Get Removed for Long
https://morningconsult.com/opinions/weve-tracked-extremist-content-on-facebook-for-years-it-doesnt-get-removed-for-long/
Decline started 11 days after the start of lockdown, which lines up pretty well with incubation period plus time to get tested.
From case data
From hospital admission data
I apologise.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641
I was beginning to think everyone was losing their minds on here, with Conservatives pitching milquetoast excuses as to why the proven-bully Patel can't possibly be a bully, and then people getting suckered in by obvious satire, presumably because they are against the Tories and are only too willing to believe that shouting at cleaners is just what Tories do.
Relieved to see that people are noticing their mistakes. Well, some people at least.
Half mental, at least. Half those bets are going to win.
Also, reported cases in Wales look like they're starting to go up again in the last couple of days, corresponding to their lockdown ending on Nov 9. Their recent peak in reported cases was around Nov 2, corresponding to the start of the firebreak on Oct 23.
To me that looks like a pretty consistent picture of around 10 days delay from any change in conditions to reported cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d484OpO06M
I can honestly say I've never watched a Briefing from the Government during Covid. However, I thought I would give Hancock's Half-Hour a chance to see if it was as good as the original.
It's not really about imparting information - it's part pep talk and part upbeat hopeful message. "We'll all get through this" would be the more apposite maxim for the podium. I didn't learn anything new but I've heard so many briefings, presentations and workshops predicated on wholly unrealistic objectives, timetables and expectations that Hancock's was nothing unusual.
It's difficult to challenge someone cold on these assertions but an hour later and some of his claims sound about as plausible as the notion 40,000 people work for Hampshire County Council.
https://documents.hants.gov.uk/corporate/Annual-Workforce-Report.pdf
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201116/02212745712/uk-politician-demands-impossible-social-media-companies-must-not-take-down-political-speech-must-block-disinformation.shtml
Meanwhile, it might be that PP shouldn't have been unaware of the effect of her actions;
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1329846891203457026?s=19
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O/T but a nice Friday afternoon diversion - a plant that has evolved to hide from flower-pickers.
Currently, according to CBS News, Biden has 79,662,486 and Trump has 73,681.959 so it's about a 5,980,000 lead for Biden (51.0%-47.2%).
Some states are now calling 100% counted so presumably that makes it a final result. Those states not at 99 or 100% in terms of votes counted are:
Washington DC (95%)
Illinois (98%)
Iowa (98%)
Maine (92%)
Maryland (95%)
Massachusetts (95%)
New York (84%)
Ohio (97%)
I don't know why New York is so slow - Westchester County is only 56% counted and Manhattan is barely 60% counted. Both are strong Biden areas and in theory there could be another 200,000 Biden votes in Manhattan alone.
I'm confident now Biden will cross 80 million votes and may end up as much as 6.25 million votes ahead of Trump - we'll see.
Their version of Witty predicting 60k cases a day in a few weeks.
Johnson's exonoration of Priti seems to have gone down well on this board and on the backbenches, so job done!
It is, at least, a start.
The case won’t be heard until next autumn,