So farewell then, Dominic Cummings You wanted to do radical things, apparently And you had your fans But others thought you were a menace who should be fired And now you have been.
I disagree. His achievement was to f**k up a functioning, leading democracy and turn it into a second class country whose reputation for reliability and solidity now lies in shreds.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
I disagree. His achievement was to f**k up a functioning, leading democracy and turn it into a second class country whose reputation for reliability and solidity now lies in shreds.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
I disagree. His achievement was to f**k up a functioning, leading democracy and turn it into a second class country whose reputation for reliability and solidity now lies in shreds.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
It did say "in Government"
He did all that before arriving in Downing Street
To be fair though, he added icing and topping to the cake in government, too. Like one of the final, finger-licking stages of Nigella's recipes.
I’m still amused by the fact that earlier I challenged Topping to name Cummings’ achievements and he couldn’t think of one.
That of course is because Topping (pbuh) does not consider winning the Brexit vote or the last general election to be achievements.
Well, he did say ‘within the last four years.’
However, since one was based on a clearly deliberate lie and the second was based on ratifying a treaty that it was clear he didn’t understand the implications of plus Labour having a leader who has actually been expelled from the party since, I’m agreeing with Topping here.
I disagree. His achievement was to f**k up a functioning, leading democracy and turn it into a second class country whose reputation for reliability and solidity now lies in shreds.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
I’m still amused by the fact that earlier I challenged Topping to name Cummings’ achievements and he couldn’t think of one.
That of course is because Topping (pbuh) does not consider winning the Brexit vote or the last general election to be achievements.
Well, he did say ‘within the last four years.’
However, since one was based on a clearly deliberate lie and the second was based on ratifying a treaty that it was clear he didn’t understand the implications of plus Labour having a leader who has actually been expelled from the party since, I’m agreeing with Topping here.
I suppose he could write some vengeful stuff about Boris being rudderless, out of his depth, etc.
But would any of this really be a surprise to anyone ?
He could write one that says BoZo has caved on Brexit
He could do, but wouldn't that amount to roughly the same thing, too ? Neither his supporters or his critics really expect him to have any fixed views on anything , at this point , and consider his advisers to amount to his opinions. It would have to be something else, I think.
I’m still amused by the fact that earlier I challenged Topping to name Cummings’ achievements and he couldn’t think of one.
That of course is because Topping (pbuh) does not consider winning the Brexit vote or the last general election to be achievements.
Well, he did say ‘within the last four years.’
However, since one was based on a clearly deliberate lie and the second was based on ratifying a treaty that it was clear he didn’t understand the implications of plus Labour having a leader who has actually been expelled from the party since, I’m agreeing with Topping here.
You surprise me.
Well, in fairness I only partially agree with Topping.
I don’t think he had any successes before that either.
It feels a bit as if the narrative is that Johnson is the battered wife finally freed after years of controlling torment by her abuser, hurray! And that is not a narrative that should be allowed to take hold. We should be tough on Cummings, and tough on the causes of Cummings.
And we have had this twice in a row, Nick Timothy was only marginally less gruesome than Cummings. Vote Tory and you are not voting for the party leader but for some utterly creepy rasputin figure in the shadows.
That's such a level of precision it is either made up, or provided directly by Boris, Cummings or Cain. So which one? Like May's parting words to Osborne, we figure that out by determining who is meant to look good from the quotes.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
That's such a level of precision it is either made up, or provided directly by Boris, Cummings or Cain. So which one? Like May's parting words to Osborne, we figure that out by determining who is meant to look good from the quotes.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
Possibly it’s meant to do so.
But given Cummings should have gone long ago, arguably this delayed departure has the opposite effect.
It feels a bit as if the narrative is that Johnson is the battered wife finally freed after years of controlling torment by her abuser, hurray! And that is not a narrative that should be allowed to take hold. We should be tough on Cummings, and tough on the causes of Cummings.
And we have had this twice in a row, Nick Timothy was only marginally less gruesome than Cummings. Vote Tory and you are not voting for the party leader but for some utterly creepy rasputin figure in the shadows.
Going after the adviser rather than the King is a longstanding tactic given the risks in targeting the latter. But as we all know if you hire crap people and do what they say that's still on you. So certainly the idea bad things are down to Cummings and not the guy who listened to him, if pushed, should be dismissed.
That's such a level of precision it is either made up, or provided directly by Boris, Cummings or Cain. So which one? Like May's parting words to Osborne, we figure that out by determining who is meant to look good from the quotes.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
Probably from Allegra Stratton, via a particularly decisive and self-flattering rendering of things that roughly happened, from Boris himself.
That's such a level of precision it is either made up, or provided directly by Boris, Cummings or Cain. So which one? Like May's parting words to Osborne, we figure that out by determining who is meant to look good from the quotes.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
What, waving around text messages to his girlfriend? It makes him look like the loser of a mumsnet spat. And thick as mince with it: employer of complete c--t, whose usp is complete c--tdom, shocked and horrified by revelation that complete c--t is, actually, a complete c--t.
I disagree. His achievement was to f**k up a functioning, leading democracy and turn it into a second class country whose reputation for reliability and solidity now lies in shreds.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
I don't think many of us on this site (including me) understand American conservatism.
All I know is I'd have had no problem supporting Reagan and Bush, but I have no idea what's going on today.
Indeed, there's a fascinating piece when Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush were competing for the Republican nomination in 1980 and they did a Town Hall meeting and someone in the audience asked them both about immigration - the answers they gave then are so far away from what the modern Trump-era Republican would say as to belong to a different party let alone the same party.
That was a form of free-market liberal conservatism that was internationalist in outlook but also recognised the levels of relative poverty in parts of the USA. It was, as you say, a form of conservatism we would recognise.
Now, conservatism is this heady mix of social conservatism and economic populism.
The fascinating part of the argument is that it transcends traditional racial political barriers but only to create new ones whereby the Republicans are the party of the working class and the Democrats the party of the wealthy - it's interesting to look at conservative media coverage of Biden and to see how often they reference Biden's dependency on big business and "Big Tech".
It seems this new form of conservatism isn't anti-business but anti-globalised big business (presumably this also relates to hi-tech firms from liberal California) and the anti-globalisation agenda isn't just a question of "protecting" domestic jobs but it's also about a deeper concern for the preservation of national identity in a global world.
The anti-globalisation banner has passed from the radicals to the populists.
Yes, and this is where I depart from much liberal analysis: for me, whilst I recognise America has a different founding story and political traditions, concern over immigration and preservation of national identity are entirely legitimate concerns. Indeed, I'd argue the Republican Party dismissed and ignored these for far too long - and it needs to learn the lessons of Trump's original election and victory.
What sinks them for me is anti-democratic behaviour, abuse of the constitution, demagoguery, Qanon conspiracy theories and a total myopic obsessions on issues like abortion, gun control, gay therapy and a revering of frankly weird televangelism.
That's such a level of precision it is either made up, or provided directly by Boris, Cummings or Cain. So which one? Like May's parting words to Osborne, we figure that out by determining who is meant to look good from the quotes.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
What, waving around text messages to his girlfriend? It makes him look like the loser of a mumsnet spat. And thick as mince with it: employer of complete c--t, whose usp is complete c--tdom, shocked and horrified by revelation that complete c--t is, actually, a complete c--t.
It shows him as confronting the men on a matter of honour (don't laugh), and brusquely, nay, regally (I said no laughter) dismissing them from his service.
Sure, it may be nonsense, and doesn't say anything about how he employed and relied on these men (particularly Cummings), nor may it even be true, but it's clearly designed to make him look powerful and in command, whether or not it succeeds.
What is this "Dominion Voting System" the Orange Idiot is bleating on about?
I think it's the machine and software that scans the ballots and counts them. Stole millions of votes from Trump. That's right, millions. He cannot even claim there was just enough fraud to deny him victory, it was the biggest fraud ever no doubt.
You should have fired the lawbreaking stuck up lying incompetent lazy tosser when you had the chance Johnson.
Look what you sacrificed your credibility for. Was he worth it?
No
And even now, Dom has been given a final flounce out of the front door of Number Ten, and (if some reports are to be believed) is working out his notice from home.
If Dom's behaviour had been that awful, why not march him out under police guard and change the passwords?
I thought the move to STV would have favored candidates like Akehurst and Pidcock. They are not everyone's cup of tea but they can master first preferences more than middle of road lesser known candidates of their slates. On the other hand they may receive less second, third, fourth, etc preferences than someone like Ann Black who can be among the top 9 of many people.
Luke Akehurst is the interesting one - I wonder if his surname helped (it was a long alphabetical list, and I certainly lost the will to live before getting to the end)? Nevertheless, for the most vehement anti-Corbynite to come top of the poll is quite something. He's spent four year excoriating Corbyn and Corbynism on Labour Uncut, and is despised by the (far) left. But yes, the left has won some seats as well - why shouldn't it? The result is actually a fair reflection of where the party is post-Corbyn. Starmer will be perfectly content with the outcome.
Why? Gove might be a drama queen and untrustworthy but he's very competent.
One of the few who are actually.
Gove is relatively unusual as a minister in that it seems generally acknowledged that he has ideas and works hard to put them into practice, but even leaving aside Ydoethur's view of the downsides of his drive, what Gove clearly is not is particularly sensitive, and even very necessary changes to health would get treated like heresy, so I don't think his personal competence will held him be a success in that area.
What is this "Dominion Voting System" the Orange Idiot is bleating on about?
I think it's the machine and software that scans the ballots and counts them. Stole millions of votes from Trump. That's right, millions. He cannot even claim there was just enough fraud to deny him victory, it was the biggest fraud ever no doubt.
I thought the move to STV would have favored candidates like Akehurst and Pidcock. They are not everyone's cup of tea but they can master first preferences more than middle of road lesser known candidates of their slates. On the other hand they may receive less second, third, fourth, etc preferences than someone like Ann Black who can be among the top 9 of many people.
Luke Akehurst is the interesting one - I wonder if his surname helped (it was a long alphabetical list, and I certainly lost the will to live before getting to the end)? Nevertheless, for the most vehement anti-Corbynite to come top of the poll is quite something. He's spent four year excoriating Corbyn and Corbynism on Labour Uncut, and is despised by the (far) left. But yes, the left has won some seats as well - why shouldn't it? The result is actually a fair reflection of where the party is post-Corbyn. Starmer will be perfectly content with the outcome.
The left slate advised putting Pidcock last of their preferred candidates, presumably on the basis that she would pick up alternative votes from lesser-known people up the list. The centrist slate invited backers to pick any order, so Luke Akehurst as the best-known came top. I agree about the alphabet issue - as it was all online, with dozens of candidates, each with a statement to read, it was really tough to get to the people at the end of the alphabet - we need to have a higher threshold to get nominated next time, I think. But yes, a very reasonable result.
The letter was signed by Assistant U.S. Attorneys in 15 different federal court districts: Western Pennsylvania, Western North Carolina, New Mexico, Maryland, Southern Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, Southern Iowa, Western Arkansas, Southern New York, Eastern New York, Oregon, Kansas, Northern California, the Virgin Islands and the Northern Marianna Islands. Two signers were from Oregon.
Surprised it wasn't more if they are career prosecutors who object to being thrust into partisan politics.
I wonder if US lawyers who aren't in it for the politics look down on those who are, all those DAs and so on who have to milk the party machines and climb the greasy pole, with an eye on future office rather than the law.
Left tried to balance between candidates. The advice was for members from North East and South West to vote Pidcock first and Dar last. Scotland, Wales, and East members were advised to put Henderson first and Rahman last Yorkshire & the Humber, East Midlands, West London had to vote first for Jama and Bolton last North West, N Ireland, and International had to rank Dar top and Rahman last West Midlands, North & East London members had to first preference Rahman with Jama last South East, South London had to go for Bolton first and Pidcock last.
The left slate advised putting Pidcock last of their preferred candidates, presumably on the basis that she would pick up alternative votes from lesser-known people up the list. The centrist slate invited backers to pick any order, so Luke Akehurst as the best-known came top. I agree about the alphabet issue - as it was all online, with dozens of candidates, each with a statement to read, it was really tough to get to the people at the end of the alphabet - we need to have a higher threshold to get nominated next time, I think. But yes, a very reasonable result.
"We hope their won't be a lockdown... THIS administration will never have a lockdown... We obviously won't know what... whatever happens ... but THIS administration will not have a lockdown...".
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Failed Cummings the radical
Weeps Autumnal tears
Through his unsightly stubble
See above, passim.
Bozo ejects Cum prematurely.
Carrie doesn’t like the taste of Bozo's Cum.
Sorry, but I can't think of anything to do with Dom's departure.
Not many of us get to screw up things on such a massive scale. It is a breathtaking achievement, but not one I would want on my CV
He did all that before arriving in Downing Street
But would any of this really be a surprise to anyone ?
However, since one was based on a clearly deliberate lie and the second was based on ratifying a treaty that it was clear he didn’t understand the implications of plus Labour having a leader who has actually been expelled from the party since, I’m agreeing with Topping here.
Really brought people together. We all united as one to call him a prick.
https://www.teesdalemercury.co.uk/business/opticians-80-years-in-barney-gone-in-the-blink-of-an-eye
I don’t think he had any successes before that either.
Look what you sacrificed your credibility for. Was he worth it?
And we have had this twice in a row, Nick Timothy was only marginally less gruesome than Cummings. Vote Tory and you are not voting for the party leader but for some utterly creepy rasputin figure in the shadows.
It shows Boris as strong and decisive, so must be from him?
But given Cummings should have gone long ago, arguably this delayed departure has the opposite effect.
What sinks them for me is anti-democratic behaviour, abuse of the constitution, demagoguery, Qanon conspiracy theories and a total myopic obsessions on issues like abortion, gun control, gay therapy and a revering of frankly weird televangelism.
Sure, it may be nonsense, and doesn't say anything about how he employed and relied on these men (particularly Cummings), nor may it even be true, but it's clearly designed to make him look powerful and in command, whether or not it succeeds.
What is this "Dominion Voting System" the Orange Idiot is bleating on about?
One of the few who are actually.
Privatisation.
If Dom's behaviour had been that awful, why not march him out under police guard and change the passwords?
No he's not.
The customs omnishambles is testament to that.
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1077579720756211713?s=19
https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/status/1327357918673514499
Had a joke with the lads. Told Carrie he booted them out
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/law-firm-biden-trump-pennsylvania/index.html
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1327357477428600832?s=21
And, if it turned out that the principal purveyor of porkies was the PM, would anyone be that surprised?
Besides which there's only so much he can do given how late he was authorised and appointed to do it.
The letter was signed by Assistant U.S. Attorneys in 15 different federal court districts: Western Pennsylvania, Western North Carolina, New Mexico, Maryland, Southern Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, Southern Iowa, Western Arkansas, Southern New York, Eastern New York, Oregon, Kansas, Northern California, the Virgin Islands and the Northern Marianna Islands. Two signers were from Oregon.
Surprised it wasn't more if they are career prosecutors who object to being thrust into partisan politics.
I wonder if US lawyers who aren't in it for the politics look down on those who are, all those DAs and so on who have to milk the party machines and climb the greasy pole, with an eye on future office rather than the law.
But on the other hand the destruction of a non-partisan civil and judicial service will be off the agenda.
My daughter and family live near to Gwrych Castle and the whole area is bouncing with 'celebrity' fans and the famous
It has been a huge boost to Abergele
By Gove as the anonymous source no doubt.
That has to be bollocks.
The advice was for members from North East and South West to vote Pidcock first and Dar last.
Scotland, Wales, and East members were advised to put Henderson first and Rahman last
Yorkshire & the Humber, East Midlands, West London had to vote first for Jama and Bolton last
North West, N Ireland, and International had to rank Dar top and Rahman last
West Midlands, North & East London members had to first preference Rahman with Jama last
South East, South London had to go for Bolton first and Pidcock last.
Sounds to me like he's given up.