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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,205

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    Yeah the post election period could get interesting
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    edited October 2020
    Something for Lady G and all who despair at these dark times. It was written, of course, during the dark days of the Second World War and it's a rather wonderful piece of prose:

    'There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.'
  • I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20
  • Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984
  • glw said:

    Some quite different rates of growth even where the numbers are in the same ballpark.


    Continuing my trends in new cases from yesterday:

    France
    291020 47,637
    221020 41,622
    151020 30,621
    081020 18,129
    2.6 x


    Germany
    291020 18,492
    221020 12,519
    151020 7,074
    081020 4,401
    4.2 x

    Italy
    291020 26,831
    221020 16,079
    151020 8,803
    081020 4,458
    6.0 x

    Poland
    291020 20,156
    221020 12,107
    151020 8,099
    081020 4,280
    4.7 x

    Spain
    291020 23,580
    221020 16,965
    151020 15,441
    081020 12,161
    1.9 x

    UK
    291020 23,065
    221020 21,243
    151020 18,965
    081020 17,540
    1.3 x

    Data from worldometer.

    Down to testing.....
  • glw said:

    Some quite different rates of growth even where the numbers are in the same ballpark.


    Continuing my trends in new cases from yesterday:

    France
    291020 47,637
    221020 41,622
    151020 30,621
    081020 18,129
    2.6 x


    Germany
    291020 18,492
    221020 12,519
    151020 7,074
    081020 4,401
    4.2 x

    Italy
    291020 26,831
    221020 16,079
    151020 8,803
    081020 4,458
    6.0 x

    Poland
    291020 20,156
    221020 12,107
    151020 8,099
    081020 4,280
    4.7 x

    Spain
    291020 23,580
    221020 16,965
    151020 15,441
    081020 12,161
    1.9 x

    UK
    291020 23,065
    221020 21,243
    151020 18,965
    081020 17,540
    1.3 x

    Data from worldometer.

    Things can vary depending on different start points.

    They can also vary depending on the number of tests and how that number of tests changes over the period.

    Or who the positive cases are - the higher the proportion of symptomatic cases the worse it is.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,459

    The history books will look back on the decision by European leaders to encourage a summer season as normal as just unfathomable, after we know wave one was started by exactly the same route albeit ski resorts.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321917528604639233?s=20

    I thought this might be the case. The upsurge in the uk is very reminiscent of the original in feb/March, which was also seeded multiple times.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21
  • glwglw Posts: 9,908

    The history books will look back on the decision by European leaders to encourage a summer season as normal as just unfathomable, after we know wave one was started by exactly the same route albeit ski resorts.

    I get very, very sweary when I hear CEOs from the likes of airlines and airports on the radio.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    HYUFD said:
    There goes COVID.....to all parts of France.
    I never realised Paris had quite so many writers.
  • Unfortunate juxtaposition in the bottom half of this front page.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321935630037901312
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    But I still think Jon Ossoff to win Georgia Senate at 2/1 when he's leading in all the recent polls with real momentum and a fading opponent is a stonking value bet.

    Hi opponent , Perdue has just pulled out from the final debate to attend a Trump rally on Sunday instead . Very risky move , could go either way .
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,129

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
  • Unfortunate juxtaposition in the bottom half of this front page.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321935630037901312

    The Metro must be really struggling at the moment. Who wants to advertise in a free paper when only a tiny percentage of your usual readers (commuters) are looking at it?
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    nico679 said:

    But I still think Jon Ossoff to win Georgia Senate at 2/1 when he's leading in all the recent polls with real momentum and a fading opponent is a stonking value bet.

    Hi opponent , Perdue has just pulled out from the final debate to attend a Trump rally on Sunday instead . Very risky move , could go either way .
    Ossoff absolutely shredded him yesterday so that's probably why. Perdue is facing some serious allegations right now about his profiteering during the pandemic.

    This is savage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25l7WzEVRBI

  • glwglw Posts: 9,908

    Down to testing.....

    Oh I know that the testing is misleading, but the implied trajectory for some of those countries is utterly different from others that are meant to be in the same boat. I don't wish anyone ill but I'm fairly sure we are going to see some far worse outbreaks than we saw in the spring.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,671
    edited October 2020
    kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    I suspect if Corbyn doesn't recant today's comment then he's not getting the whip back.
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    nico679 said:

    But I still think Jon Ossoff to win Georgia Senate at 2/1 when he's leading in all the recent polls with real momentum and a fading opponent is a stonking value bet.

    Hi opponent , Perdue has just pulled out from the final debate to attend a Trump rally on Sunday instead . Very risky move , could go either way .
    Very risky, and imho foolish. Republicans from Trump down are finding they've shrunk their base and put off Ind/swing voters. They need to get Lean Rs to stick with the party they are wavering on, not double down on the core vote.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,594
    Probably already noted by someone on here: Ohio and Iowa have switched around on the 538 projection. Ohio is now blue and Iowa red.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,594

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
  • kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    I suspect if Corbyn doesn't recant today's comment then he's not getting the whip back.
    Even if he does (which by todays reaction seems unlikely), if he is let back in, doesn't that look really bad and lead to suggestion that Starmer only did to for the headline on the day.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,671
    edited October 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    I suspect if Corbyn doesn't recant today's comment then he's not getting the whip back.
    Even if he does (which by todays reaction seems unlikely), if he is let back in, doesn't that look really bad and lead to suggestion that Starmer only did to for the headline on the day.
    Well the Tories got away with letting that guy back in who is now in prison.
  • The history books will look back on the decision by European leaders to encourage a summer season as normal as just unfathomable, after we know wave one was started by exactly the same route albeit ski resorts.

    Some countries at least had the excuse it would benefit their economy.

    Those which encouraged their people to go and spend their money in other countries were at an even higher level of imbecility.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    Betting update. I'm afraid the 2/1 has disappeared in the last few minutes. Ossoff is now 11/10 in Georgia.

    People on here taking up the tip? Or Betfair spies on this site? :wink:

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    Alistair said:

    I am truly astonished that pollsters are producing state polls that don't ask if you have already voted. It makes interpreting the numbers little more than guess work.

    I was expecting the polls to get provably more and more accurate but without knowing who in the sample has voted early it makes it more and more confusing.

    Agreed. The CitizenData poll of Texas which splits out the have voted from the intend to vote in the crosstabs is an exception.

  • Roy_G_BivRoy_G_Biv Posts: 998
    Scott_xP said:

    The one thing that Harrismen and Lewismen (& Harriswomen & Lewiswomen) agree on is that they're separate entities!

    Lewis is fabulous. Harris looks like the moon.
    Harris has Losgaintir. Harris wins.
  • Scott_xP said:

    twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321937654095745026

    Uncle Thickie is so dense he can't even wear a mask properly.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,594
    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Maybe this is what a "super-spreader event" looks like.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    The Rasmussen Texas poll has two additional turnout results . High Dem or GOP turnout . The former levels the poll up at 48 each , the latter puts Trump in safe territory .
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    TOPPING said:

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
    Big on calibre, Lidl on price?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,594

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
  • Site is loading like dogshit tonight...again... and this is on a top of the range laptop, fast internet etc.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    If they did, can you imagine the headlines? Or an appeal panel hearing the dismissal?
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    Roy_G_Biv said:
    Or the Germans are at the Arc de Triomphe
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,103
    edited October 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    IanB2 said:

    kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    I suspect if Corbyn doesn't recant today's comment then he's not getting the whip back.
    Even if he does (which by todays reaction seems unlikely), if he is let back in, doesn't that look really bad and lead to suggestion that Starmer only did to for the headline on the day.
    Well the Tories got away with letting that guy back in who is now in prison.
    I guess former LibDem Leaders resign from the party ... before they are pushed off the cliff.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410

    Site is loading like dogshit tonight...again... and this is on a top of the range laptop, fast internet etc.

    It's actually improved for me on my substandard old phone.
    Still not swift, mind.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381
    The Daily Mail, the conscience of the nation..
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    I suspect if Corbyn doesn't recant today's comment then he's not getting the whip back.
    Even if he does (which by todays reaction seems unlikely), if he is let back in, doesn't that look really bad and lead to suggestion that Starmer only did to for the headline on the day.
    It shows that Starmer is not afraid to crack the whip. The important thing is the message. If he lets Corbyn back then it has to be on Starmer's terms, further undermining Corbyn and his acolytes.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766
    kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    Note the coded message in the tweet.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    I have to say that having driven in Paris including on the extraordinary peripherique I can't see an awful lot different to a normal Parisian rush hour.
  • Roy_G_BivRoy_G_Biv Posts: 998
    Andy_JS said:

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Maybe this is what a "super-spreader event" looks like.
    I'm not 100% sure why if it's an exodus it's busy in both directions. But if it's on Twitter, it's probably true.
  • kle4 said:

    Corbyn's going to be reinstated very soon, maybe tomorrow because a Cambridge educated solicitor is on the case.

    Be afraid Sir Keir, be very afraid.

    https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1321918862544297984

    You may jest, but what's the end game here? Is Corbyn never getting back in? That seems unlikely.
    Note the coded message in the tweet.
    Can never get through these statements without whataboutism.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,129
    Scott_xP said:
    He's not even been suspended for anything he's said and done in the past. It's just that he's such a vain drama queen that he could not comment on the report without seeking to not simply downplay his impact, but whinge about how unfair it was his leadership was being questioned, and so publicly be in opposition to his leader on accepting it.

    But Corbyn never gave loyalty to the party leader, he could not realistically ask for it while he was leader, and can hardly credibly complain that he has never been given a fair shake when it comes to rebelling.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163
    edited October 2020

    twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1321933031196811264

    He appears to be 180° wrong on so many things that perhaps we should just call him Mr Opposite...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,717
    IanB2 said:

    TOPPING said:

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
    Big on calibre, Lidl on price?
    More bang for your buck.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,717
    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
  • Roy_G_BivRoy_G_Biv Posts: 998
    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    Unless they're white poppies
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    twitter.com/davesgould/status/1321938919664033797

    The Daily Mail, the conscience emergency loo roll of the nation..
    I have corrected your error....

    :D:D
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,222

    nico679 said:

    But I still think Jon Ossoff to win Georgia Senate at 2/1 when he's leading in all the recent polls with real momentum and a fading opponent is a stonking value bet.

    Hi opponent , Perdue has just pulled out from the final debate to attend a Trump rally on Sunday instead . Very risky move , could go either way .
    Ossoff absolutely shredded him yesterday so that's probably why. Perdue is facing some serious allegations right now about his profiteering during the pandemic.

    This is savage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25l7WzEVRBI

    Jeez, if you go to the youtube link you get an ad with Farage before the video.
    Aversion therapy ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,717
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    Unless they're white poppies
    Of course, refusing a poppy could be construed as virtue signaling...
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163
    edited October 2020
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    It is the weirdest looking posture I have seen in years. The last time I saw someone walking like that, they had some sort of back-brace.

    [Edit: Either all those coppers are about 7ft tall or .... ]
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    TOPPING said:

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
    Big on calibre, Lidl on price?
    More bang for your buck.
    and magazines.
  • Roy_G_BivRoy_G_Biv Posts: 998
    Foxy said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    Unless they're white poppies
    Of course, refusing a poppy could be construed as virtue signaling...
    If you don't have a poppy the size of a dinner plate on the front of your van, you're basically a terrorist
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,103
    edited October 2020
    Nigelb said:

    twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1321931208708771840

    Apparently the "explosive" documents have now been located by UPS....probably just 1000 pages of photocopies of the same thing.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,036
    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    White ones excepted.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    What was your name last time Roy?
  • Roy_G_BivRoy_G_Biv Posts: 998

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    It is the weirdest looking posture I have seen in years. The last time I saw someone walking like that, they had some sort of back-brace.

    [Edit: Either all those coppers are about 7ft tall or .... ]
    Why are so many politicians such fucking weirdos? Patel, Gove, Corbyn, Farron, Brown. There's barely one that can walk like a human. And when they try to smile they either look like a hostage in a ransom video or like they've shat in your box of cornflakes and they know that you don't know yet.
    I mean, what will it take to get a fucking normal person in charge, just for once?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,717
    isam said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    What was your name last time Roy?
    🌈
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,036
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    Unless they're white poppies
    Of course, refusing a poppy could be construed as virtue signaling...
    If you don't have a poppy the size of a dinner plate on the front of your van, you're basically a terrorist
    They were stringing them up from the lampposts round our way at the weekend.

    Giant poppies that is, not terrorists.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,129
    dr_spyn said:
    Honestly it's not so much the height (and in Hollande's case he's as tall is me) it's her very odd posture in that photo.
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    It is the weirdest looking posture I have seen in years. The last time I saw someone walking like that, they had some sort of back-brace.

    [Edit: Either all those coppers are about 7ft tall or .... ]
    Why are so many politicians such fucking weirdos? Patel, Gove, Corbyn, Farron, Brown. There's barely one that can walk like a human. And when they try to smile they either look like a hostage in a ransom video or like they've shat in your box of cornflakes and they know that you don't know yet.
    I mean, what will it take to get a fucking normal person in charge, just for once?
    Well, I don't know that we want completely normal people in charge, as it is a very weird job most people are probably not temperamentally suited for and we want as exceptional people as we can convince to stand to boot, but Cameron, Starmer, Blair for example all seem or seemed pretty normal at the time.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Foxy said:

    Alistair said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    I have a feeling this stupid set of guidelines aren't going to last long...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321922255509725185?s=20

    What's the problem with the guidelines?
    It is virtue signalling by Tim Davie.

    What happens if a LGBT BBC employee goes to a pride event, are they going to get sacked?
    What they do in their spare time is their business, I didn't realise it covered that.
    I can't work out if it is deliberately a totally ridiculous policy, with cunning plan to roll it back a bit (and still sell it to the public as taking on Woke agenda etc) or the man behind is a total idiot.

    It surely can't be legal to ban your employees from going to such an event. And it does nothing to address suggestions of bias. Even banning people tweeting certain things, what does that achieve? If they are unable to put their own bias aside when reporting, they will do that regardless if they tw@tter it or not.
    It's been clarified as Pride is totally okay but if "the trans issue" is involved then its political/protest and news and current affairs can't attend.

    So it's just some good old fashioned transphobia
    Apparently poppies don't count as virtue signaling., because it is the right sort of virtue signalling.
    Unless they're white poppies
    Of course, refusing a poppy could be construed as virtue signaling...
    If you don't have a poppy the size of a dinner plate on the front of your van, you're basically a terrorist
    They were stringing them up from the lampposts round our way at the weekend.

    Giant poppies that is, not terrorists.
    They were lining em up against the wall.

    Giant Poppies not Tories
  • One of the minor characters of 2016 has a view on Jeremy Corbyn:

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1321897520096825344

    I always thought the Intercept was Glenn.
    Jill Stein = leftwing Putinist dupe = Jeremy Corbin

    Same with others, unless they are conscious Vladimirians.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,205
    edited October 2020
    If you consider an end of first term presidential election to be a referendum on the presidency...

    https://civiqs.com/results/approve_president_trump?annotations=true&uncertainty=true&zoomIn=true&map=true

    Michigan 14% underwater
    Pennsylvania 12% underwater
    Wisconsin 9% underwater

    Along with the erroneous WI 17% poll that's probably the ballgame.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/approval-ratings-and-re-election-odds/

    Still, the approval rating at which an incumbent candidate goes from being an underdog to a favorite for re-election is somewhere in the high 40s. He's at 45 in plenty of states...

    Trump's approval weirdly high in New Mexico though if you want to look for a state he might outperform.

    Arkansas, West Virginia and Wyoming looking good for the Donald.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163
    edited October 2020

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    While I remember...

    @Cyclefree - I am looking for sartorial comments rather than legal stuff, even though there are lots of coppers and a Home Sec in the piccie

    :D
  • One of the minor characters of 2016 has a view on Jeremy Corbyn:

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1321897520096825344

    I always thought the Intercept was Glenn.
    Jill Stein = leftwing Putinist dupe = Jeremy Corbin

    Same with others, unless they are conscious Vladimirians.
    I thought Glenn was an owner of the Intercept. I didn't know (until I looked) that it is all funded by a guy who founded ebay.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798
    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,129

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    Hmm, there may not be an exact opposite I suppose. Influx or ingress don't feel quite right.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,798
    Roy_G_Biv said:

    Roy_G_Biv said:

    That episode of Dr Who where the home secretary is in fact a merciless, short arsed golem from Alpha Centauri.

    https://twitter.com/StefanRousseau/status/1321838262818930689?s=20

    That is two children in a coat trying to pass themselves off as an adult.
    It is the weirdest looking posture I have seen in years. The last time I saw someone walking like that, they had some sort of back-brace.

    [Edit: Either all those coppers are about 7ft tall or .... ]
    Why are so many politicians such fucking weirdos? Patel, Gove, Corbyn, Farron, Brown. There's barely one that can walk like a human. And when they try to smile they either look like a hostage in a ransom video or like they've shat in your box of cornflakes and they know that you don't know yet.
    I mean, what will it take to get a fucking normal person in charge, just for once?
    No normal person would want to do it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,222
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    TOPPING said:

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
    Big on calibre, Lidl on price?
    More bang for your buck.
    The “270 Win” branding on boxes of ammo is a bit disturbing, if you think about it.
  • isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    Well, I don't know if this shows exodus, but it definitely shows the roads are much busier than normal,

    TomTom real-time data shows a massive spike in Traffic Thursday night, the highest congestion so far this week, as lockdowns are only a few hours away.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/massive-traffic-jams-across-paris-people-flee-ahead-second-covid-lockdown
  • Plenty of Blue Checkmark journalists who live in Paris seem to think there is an exodus of people.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,851
    BBC ban on virtue signalling? Can't help but feel they'll lurch from one extreme to another.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,851
    And the issue is not virtue signalling per se but seeing it as a substitute for proper analysis or policy.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    The opposite of Exodus is illegal immigration.
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    Well, I don't know if this shows exodus, but it definitely shows the roads are much busier than normal,

    TomTom real-time data shows a massive spike in Traffic Thursday night, the highest congestion so far this week, as lockdowns are only a few hours away.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/massive-traffic-jams-across-paris-people-flee-ahead-second-covid-lockdown
    Of course they are leaving Paris. It is an exodus. Not an inodus.

    Paris is a beautiful but rather rainy, chilly city, which contains lots of rich people, who stay in Paris - especially in winter - solely because it has wonderful museums, theatres, restaurants, galleries, parties, bars, social life, and lucrative work. These make up for the congestion, crime, noise, graffiti, ugly suburbs, etc

    Take away ALL of those upsides - as Macron has done - and you are left with a desiccated, picturesque hellscape. And this in the gloomy months of November-February

    The rich are fleeing. I really do wonder if they will ever return, in a generation, to Paris. Or london. Or New York.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,103
    edited October 2020

    And the issue is not virtue signalling per se but seeing it as a substitute for proper analysis or policy.

    The only real bit of the guidance that I agree with is reaffirming that twitter isn't what Britain thinks. It is a problem with a lot of current journalism. A small very interconnected world, where they all follow one another on twitter and take their stories from that. You can see a particular story spread really quickly, as it is retweeted and copy / pasted, with few checks if it has come from their network, let alone if that is actually want the wider public think.
  • rpjs said:

    rpjs said:

    FPT

    "the Uniondivvie"

    "Thanks for condolences SeaShanty, ydoethur and others.

    Strangely Trump came up independently of the family revelation (that was at the funeral meats). My uncle was a Liberal Unionist who loathed Brexit and Trump, and his son, my cousin, in his tribute brought up Trump as the polar opposite of of the person that was my uncle. Weird how politics crops up.

    The Isle Lewis has it's own sort of rascals who are not really brashly Trumpian, more Odysseus the Trickster types. This is a good example, an interesting story even if you're not a Lewisman I think."

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Soolivan-Recollections-Traveller-Raconteur/dp/1841583286

    Looking at the map, I see that the "Isle" of Lewis is NOT an island - sounds pretty Trumpian to me!

    The one thing that Harrismen and Lewismen (& Harriswomen & Lewiswomen) agree on is that they're separate entities!
    Am NOT challenging that (says proud owner of a Harris Tweed hacking jacket manufactured in 1984).

    But calling yerself an island when you clearly ain't - THAT's pure Trumpsky!
    Ahem, Rhode Island, ahem.
    NOTE that there IS in fact a Rhode Island in the State of Rhode Island AND Providence Plantations!

    So, sir or madam or who knows (as the case may be) please withdraw your aspersions upon the good folk of the Ocean State!! Or risk meeting the ghost of Roger Williams on some dark and stormy night!!!

    OR even worse, some gnarled old Sicilian lady from Pawtucket will mutter an ancient curse AND give you her evil eye!!!!
    No sir, there is not, or at least not an island you can point to or stand on and say "this is the original Rhode Island". Aquidneck Island, the island where Newport is located, was certainly called that after settlement began, but it is by no means certain that it is the original island with that epithet. It's not even certain who coined the name, let alone which island was meant. It was either Verrazzano in 1524 who saw an island he felt looked like Rhodes in the Mediterranean, or Block in 1614 who passed a "reddish island" (Dutch Rood eiland) but any Rhode Island native like my wife will tell you that it's only likely to have been Aquidneck. It could have been Block Island, or even (whisper it) Long Island itself.

    BTW, any PBers who can find a bookie stupid enough to offer odds that Rhode Islanders will vote on Tuesday to remove the "and Providence Plantations" part of the state's name should take that bet. The only real question is by how high a margin it will be defeated (at least 70/30 my wife reckons). RI does not do "woke". For instance it's the only state that still commemorates VJ-Day as a state holiday.
    I sit partially corrected. Especially as you have your very own native guide!

    WHY would they want to do away with the Plantations? It's so cool!

    One thing I do know about RI, is that folks think they are taking a LONG trip if they drive 30 miles to the beach. And an outing to Block Island is a expedition.

    Please tell you good wife that yours truly has not one, not two, but THREE models of Rhode Island lighthouses:

    > Block Island Southest
    > Point Judith
    > Pomham Island/Rocks
  • LadyG said:

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    Well, I don't know if this shows exodus, but it definitely shows the roads are much busier than normal,

    TomTom real-time data shows a massive spike in Traffic Thursday night, the highest congestion so far this week, as lockdowns are only a few hours away.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/massive-traffic-jams-across-paris-people-flee-ahead-second-covid-lockdown
    Of course they are leaving Paris. It is an exodus. Not an inodus.

    Paris is a beautiful but rather rainy, chilly city, which contains lots of rich people, who stay in Paris - especially in winter - solely because it has wonderful museums, theatres, restaurants, galleries, parties, bars, social life, and lucrative work. These make up for the congestion, crime, noise, graffiti, ugly suburbs, etc

    Take away ALL of those upsides - as Macron has done - and you are left with a desiccated, picturesque hellscape. And this in the gloomy months of November-February

    The rich are fleeing. I really do wonder if they will ever return, in a generation, to Paris. Or london. Or New York.
    Relocating permanently to the French countryside, especially more southern, it has to be massive attractive. A much bigger "improvement" than say relocating out of London to the still very rainy SW.
  • Well this BBC employee isn't a happy bunny...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1321947891829800960?s=20
  • One of the minor characters of 2016 has a view on Jeremy Corbyn:

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1321897520096825344

    I always thought the Intercept was Glenn.
    Jill Stein = leftwing Putinist dupe = Jeremy Corbin

    Same with others, unless they are conscious Vladimirians.
    I thought Glenn was an owner of the Intercept. I didn't know (until I looked) that it is all funded by a guy who founded ebay.
    Sorry, didn't even notice GG, as yours truly has no clue who he is - meant A & S.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,425
    dodrade said:

    FPT:

    ***** BETTING POST *****

    Ohio simply has to be the ultimate bellwether state, evidenced by the fact that in the 31 General Elections since 1896, it has only twice (in 1944 and 1960) failed to vote for the winning candidate, meaning that it has backed the winner unerringly over the past 56 years! Furthermore, no Republican has ever won the Presidency without winning Ohio. Against such a background, it is interesting to note that despite the betting markets having Trump as the clear favourite to win this state with Betfair Exchange at current net odds of 1.40, Biden, shown in the most recent polls as having a clear lead, has to be the value bet at 3.09 not only to land the state but to continue its startling record of correctly backing the winner over a consecutive period of 60 years.
    Show me a better U.S. Election bet offering odds of better than 2/1!
    As ever, DYOR.

    All bellwethers crack eventually, we hear little about Missouri these days as it has now become reliably Republican.
    The thing about Texas trending Democrat is that somewhere else has to trend Republican to compensate. Ohio seems like one of those places.
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221

    LadyG said:

    isam said:

    “Movement of le people” - Bob Marlèt

    https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1321924848575197185?s=21

    Hmm traffic looks jammed in both directions so if one side of the road is the exodus what is the other side? Is inodus a word?
    Well, I don't know if this shows exodus, but it definitely shows the roads are much busier than normal,

    TomTom real-time data shows a massive spike in Traffic Thursday night, the highest congestion so far this week, as lockdowns are only a few hours away.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/massive-traffic-jams-across-paris-people-flee-ahead-second-covid-lockdown
    Of course they are leaving Paris. It is an exodus. Not an inodus.

    Paris is a beautiful but rather rainy, chilly city, which contains lots of rich people, who stay in Paris - especially in winter - solely because it has wonderful museums, theatres, restaurants, galleries, parties, bars, social life, and lucrative work. These make up for the congestion, crime, noise, graffiti, ugly suburbs, etc

    Take away ALL of those upsides - as Macron has done - and you are left with a desiccated, picturesque hellscape. And this in the gloomy months of November-February

    The rich are fleeing. I really do wonder if they will ever return, in a generation, to Paris. Or london. Or New York.
    Relocating permanently to the French countryside, especially more southern, it has to be massive attractive. A much bigger "improvement" than say relocating out of London to the still very rainy SW.
    Yes. In an odd way, crap British weather might save london.

    If you’re going to live in the UK, London has just about the best weather (along with equally pricey bits of Sussex, Bucks, Surrey, etc)

    If you’re going to live in France, you could live in Languedoc for a third of the price of Paris, and have much much lovelier weather. And still be able to TGV to the capital if necessary
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,717
    edited October 2020
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    TOPPING said:

    It's more shocking that Walmart stocks guns and ammunition in the first place.

    https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

    I'm sure I've seen some heavy weaponry in the middle at Lidl.
    Big on calibre, Lidl on price?
    More bang for your buck.
    The “270 Win” branding on boxes of ammo is a bit disturbing, if you think about it.
    One of the most popular calibres:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.270

    And yes, it is ironic.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    El Paso - shutting down all non essential services for 2 weeks from tonight
  • Floater said:

    El Paso - shutting down all non essential services for 2 weeks from tonight

    Are Mariachi bands and taco restaurants essential services for old El Paso?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Going to be a long hard winter
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Floater said:

    El Paso - shutting down all non essential services for 2 weeks from tonight

    Election services considered essential
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