If this election follows previous ones then 10m more women will vote than men – politicalbetting.com
One of the features of this election which has been repeatedly observed is how poorly Trump is doing with women voters particularly those with college degrees. Four years ago that segment was mostly for Trump now its switched to Biden.
That's only in person early voting. Add in mail in votes and you have
220K Dems 145K Republicans
Clinton won Miami-Date by 290K votes. If IPEV stays at that ratio, and the Republicans turn out more on the day, then Biden is looking at a lot of lost votes he needs to recapture
One thing that's really weird about the US is how slow the mail service is. I'm testing a print on demand service right now for my business. A postcard was mailed - First Class - from Minneapolis to my home last Wednesday. As of end Thursday (as in end yesterday) it still hadn't arrived.
Isn't one of the GOP's strategies this year for Trump's mate at the head of the postal service to slow down the mail whilst at the same time trying to rule out votes that were posted in time but haven't arrived before election day?
Yes, that was one of his plans. Fortunately the postal service workers revolted against it and judges have ordered all the slowdown measures rolled back. It's not back to where it was but Biden's lead combined with multiple dropboxes and a key victory in Pennsylvania should be enough to overcome it. Pivot to the centre ? Pivot to facsism more like from Trump.
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
I've just checked the Nevada court. 5 - 4 Obama/Clinton (Including the chief justice) to Reagen/Bush appointees. All 4 Reagen/Bush appointees are senior justices. Appeals court above is the 9th circuit which oversees California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona! (Nice one for the Dems), Hawaii and Alaska. Probably the most liberal appeals court in the whole of the USA. So I don't think the Nevada GOP has much chance aside from perhaps a couple of minor concessions in their moves.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
But it's totally decided based on statute, precedent and legal philosphies only...
Edit: I know it has been pointed out, as TSE has below, that who appointed who is not an absolute determinator of outcomes, but the parties clearly value getting to appoint people they consider reliable for a reason, so onthe whole it must surely bear fruit.
FPT - IF any PBers want to observe actually voting and ballot processing for this election, they can check out the webcams at King County Elections headquarters in Renton, Washington
> Election service center (where voters with issues can come in person to register, get ballots and vote)
> Drop box sorting
> Sorting (of all returned ballots, into batches for verification, quality control and eventual tabulation)
> Alternative format ballot processing
> Signature verification
> Envelope review (for ballots that are "challenged" by election workers due mostly to missing or mismatched signatures)
> Opening (where ballots approved from counting are taken out of envelops and inspected)
> Ballot review (where ballots with issues such as voter corrections, stray marks, etc are processed by teams of workers)
> Scanning and tabulation (where approved, processed ballots are scanned into tabulators, with actual votes NOT tabulated until AFTER 8pm on Election Day)
Hillary actually won women overall by a big margin of 54% to 41% in 2016 and also won white women with college degrees by a 7% margin, 51% to 44% for Trump so not actually that big a change really
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
The harm is already quite massive, with the ludicrous judge issue.
Which means, either Congress and the Senate will have to start passing laws again - which requires a serious Democrat majority and will to do so.
Or court packing. Which in turn means end to the fig leaf of Judicial independence and a complete Spoils Systems when the pendulum goes back the other way. As it will....
FPT - IF any PBers want to observe actually voting and ballot processing for this election, they can check out the webcams at King County Elections headquarters in Renton, Washington
> Election service center (where voters with issues can come in person to register, get ballots and vote)
> Drop box sorting
> Sorting (of all returned ballots, into batches for verification, quality control and eventual tabulation)
> Alternative format ballot processing
> Signature verification
> Envelope review (for ballots that are "challenged" by election workers due mostly to missing or mismatched signatures)
> Opening (where ballots approved from counting are taken out of envelops and inspected)
> Ballot review (where ballots with issues such as voter corrections, stray marks, etc are processed by teams of workers)
> Scanning and tabulation (where approved, processed ballots are scanned into tabulators, with actual votes NOT tabulated until AFTER 8pm on Election Day)
Worth being reminded that while we on this side of the pond do in recent times tend to denigrate many aspects of american democratic practice, they can get some things right.
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Very bad. I'd caution against the appointed by X President means = Y.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
The Federal Society production line was set up to address that regrettable tendency towards unreliability. I don’t think we’ll see their like again for a very long time indeed.
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
In polling I've seen over decades, very typical for women to be more undecided than men, whatever the jurisdiction or the election.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
What really scares me more than that is if you're an accused and the person who makes the call to prosecute you is an (ambitious) state attorney up for election and your trial is being supervised by a judge up for election.
That's only in person early voting. Add in mail in votes and you have
220K Dems 145K Republicans
Clinton won Miami-Date by 290K votes. If IPEV stays at that ratio, and the Republicans turn out more on the day, then Biden is looking at a lot of lost votes he needs to recapture
One thing that's really weird about the US is how slow the mail service is. I'm testing a print on demand service right now for my business. A postcard was mailed - First Class - from Minneapolis to my home last Wednesday. As of end Thursday (as in end yesterday) it still hadn't arrived.
Isn't one of the GOP's strategies this year for Trump's mate at the head of the postal service to slow down the mail whilst at the same time trying to rule out votes that were posted in time but haven't arrived before election day?
Yes, that was one of his plans. Fortunately the postal service workers revolted against it and judges have ordered all the slowdown measures rolled back. It's not back to where it was but Biden's lead combined with multiple dropboxes and a key victory in Pennsylvania should be enough to overcome it. Pivot to the centre ? Pivot to facsism more like from Trump.
Quite a few sorting machines got junked before the court orders went through.
I think a chunk of the early turnout is based on stories of this happening, plus various voter suppression methods - mainly reducing voting places in Democrat areas. So people reacted to the possibility of having to vote in person and big queues on the day by voting early.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
I would guess well over half the world’s population is fairly well acquainted with the concept. I think you might mean anyone in a liberal democracy outside of the US ?
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
What really scares me more than that is if you're an accused and the person who makes the call to prosecute you is an (ambitious) state attorney up for election and your trial is being supervised by a judge up for election.
Then wait for that next great horror film, "The Rudy Giuliani Story" starring (one hopes) Danny Devito.
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Very bad. I'd caution against the appointed by X President means = Y.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
Aiui hyperpartisan judges is a very recent phenomenon due to Republicans and not matched by the Democrats. President Trump alluded to this earlier in the campaign, that (Obama and) Sleepy Joe had left more than a hundred judicial vacancies for Trump to fill. There was also something about it in one of the never-Trump Republican books from 2017 or thereabouts.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
What really scares me more than that is if you're an accused and the person who makes the call to prosecute you is an (ambitious) state attorney up for election and your trial is being supervised by a judge up for election.
TBH that's not the real scandal about the US judicial system. What really stinks is that 94% of state, and 97% of federal, cases don't go to full trial but are settled by plea bargain.
The usual MO of the prosecution is to begin by throwing the book at the accused and charging them with everything they can possibly think of meaning the accused is facing often quite literally the rest of their life in jail, if all the charges are proved. Then they offer a plea bargain to a much, much reduced set of charges with a relatively small penalty.
Most defendants take the bargain: to not to, you'd have to be supremely confident that the DA's case won't stand up, and that your lawyer can make that so. If you're too poor to afford a lawyer good enough to give you that confidence, which the vast majority of those accused are, then it becomes a no-brainer.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
What really scares me more than that is if you're an accused and the person who makes the call to prosecute you is an (ambitious) state attorney up for election and your trial is being supervised by a judge up for election.
TBH that's not the real scandal about the US judicial system. What really stinks is that 94% of state, and 97% of federal cases don't go to full trial but are settled by plea bargain.
The usual MO of the prosecution is to begin by throwing the book at the accused and charging them with everything they can possibly think of meaning the accused is facing often quite literally the rest of their life in jail, if all the charges are proved. Then they offer a plea bargain to a much, much reduced set of charges with a relatively small penalty.
Most defendants take the bargain: you'd have to be supremely confident that the DA's case won't stand up, and that your lawyer can make that so. If you're too poor to afford a lawyer good enough to give you that confidence, which the vast majority of those accused are, then it becomes a no-brainer.
That's a scandal too.
There's also the scandal of bail in America.
John Oliver once did a segment on it, and it seemed disproportionately favour the wealthy, and discriminate against the poor and ethnic minorities.
The prison service in America seems to employ people who think prison rape is just one of those things that happen to bad people, and anyone in prison is a bad person.
Add the undecideds (or shy Trumps depending on your perspective) on the Siena poll to Trump and you get a national popular vote total of Biden 50% and Trump 47% so not that different to Rasmussen or IBID/TIPP after all
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
I don’t the Foxy was referring to the size of its economy, so much as the democratic experiment of the last two and a half centuries.
FPT - IF any PBers want to observe actually voting and ballot processing for this election, they can check out the webcams at King County Elections headquarters in Renton, Washington
> Election service center (where voters with issues can come in person to register, get ballots and vote)
> Drop box sorting
> Sorting (of all returned ballots, into batches for verification, quality control and eventual tabulation)
> Alternative format ballot processing
> Signature verification
> Envelope review (for ballots that are "challenged" by election workers due mostly to missing or mismatched signatures)
> Opening (where ballots approved from counting are taken out of envelops and inspected)
> Ballot review (where ballots with issues such as voter corrections, stray marks, etc are processed by teams of workers)
> Scanning and tabulation (where approved, processed ballots are scanned into tabulators, with actual votes NOT tabulated until AFTER 8pm on Election Day)
Worth being reminded that while we on this side of the pond do in recent times tend to denigrate many aspects of american democratic practice, they can get some things right.
The real difference is that America is much larger, and much, much more decentralized than the UK. There will always be some jurisdictions here that could give the likes of the Liberian election authorities of 1927 (the one won by a vote of 16x the registered electorate) a run for its money, and others that make Switzerland look a bit slapdash.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
Boris Johnson, posing as a populist. Would a populist really want to starve northern kids so they'll fit up chimneys? (To be fair to Boris, this reeks of Gove & Cummings who have form taking on Jamie Oliver 10 years ago over school dinners.)
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
I don’t the Foxy was referring to the size of its economy, so much as the democratic experiment of the last two and a half centuries.
Not sure that follows either, unless democracy only works if it produces results that appease educated liberals
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Very bad. I'd caution against the appointed by X President means = Y.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
Aiui hyperpartisan judges is a very recent phenomenon due to Republicans and not matched by the Democrats. President Trump alluded to this earlier in the campaign, that (Obama and) Sleepy Joe had left more than a hundred judicial vacancies for Trump to fill. There was also something about it in one of the never-Trump Republican books from 2017 or thereabouts.
Perhaps fact that GOPers running US Senate during final two years of Obama presidency had something to do with this situation?
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Very bad. I'd caution against the appointed by X President means = Y.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
Aiui hyperpartisan judges is a very recent phenomenon due to Republicans and not matched by the Democrats. President Trump alluded to this earlier in the campaign, that (Obama and) Sleepy Joe had left more than a hundred judicial vacancies for Trump to fill. There was also something about it in one of the never-Trump Republican books from 2017 or thereabouts.
The vacancies were create of a dedicated filibustering campaign against any and all Obama administration appointments by the Republicans.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
Boris Johnson, posing as a populist. Would a populist really want to starve northern kids so they'll fit up chimneys? (To be fair to Boris, this reeks of Gove & Cummings who have form taking on Jamie Oliver 10 years ago over school dinners.)
On that you maybe right, even Farage has had a go at Boris over free school meals
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
20% of females vs 12% of men were "don't knows" in voting intention, but equal on certainty to vote, and females were more likely to break for SKS to BJ.
Women are basically less dogmatic in their views IMO.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
"Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations . . ."
Sorry, but THAT is a total crock of shit.
Because America is NOT like other nations. And NOT just because it "is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth".
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
In polling I've seen over decades, very typical for women to be more undecided than men, whatever the jurisdiction or the election.
The tendency to see parties akin to sports teams that you support come what may is perhaps one with a gender bias to it.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Political judges is something anyone not from the US finds it very difficult to get their head around.
What really scares me more than that is if you're an accused and the person who makes the call to prosecute you is an (ambitious) state attorney up for election and your trial is being supervised by a judge up for election.
TBH that's not the real scandal about the US judicial system. What really stinks is that 94% of state, and 97% of federal cases don't go to full trial but are settled by plea bargain.
The usual MO of the prosecution is to begin by throwing the book at the accused and charging them with everything they can possibly think of meaning the accused is facing often quite literally the rest of their life in jail, if all the charges are proved. Then they offer a plea bargain to a much, much reduced set of charges with a relatively small penalty.
Most defendants take the bargain: you'd have to be supremely confident that the DA's case won't stand up, and that your lawyer can make that so. If you're too poor to afford a lawyer good enough to give you that confidence, which the vast majority of those accused are, then it becomes a no-brainer.
That's a scandal too.
There's also the scandal of bail in America.
John Oliver once did a segment on it, and it seemed disproportionately favour the wealthy, and discriminate against the poor and ethnic minorities.
The prison service in America seems to employ people who think prison rape is just one of those things that happen to bad people, and anyone in prison is a bad person.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
Boris Johnson, posing as a populist. Would a populist really want to starve northern kids so they'll fit up chimneys? (To be fair to Boris, this reeks of Gove & Cummings who have form taking on Jamie Oliver 10 years ago over school dinners.)
On that you maybe right, even Farage has had a go at Boris over free school meals
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
I don’t the Foxy was referring to the size of its economy, so much as the democratic experiment of the last two and a half centuries.
Not sure that follows either, unless democracy only works if it produces results that appease educated liberals
I don’t think that was his point, either. If you believe a re-elected Trump would pose no threat to the constitution in his second term of office, then we’ll have to agree to differ.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
"Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations . . ."
Sorry, but THAT is a total crock of shit.
Because America is NOT like other nations. And NOT just because it "is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth".
It is, America is no longer some sort of utopia to which the rest of the democratic and free world looks for leadership, in fact arguably over recent years Merkel's Germany has ironically taken over that role
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
I don’t the Foxy was referring to the size of its economy, so much as the democratic experiment of the last two and a half centuries.
Yes. Abuse of process on a Zimbabwean scale winning an election (though almost certainly losing the Popular Vote) is not something that can revert to normal speedily.
It is not a matter of right vs left. I don't think Romney would have done so much damage.
How bad is it that you need to check who appointed a state judiciary to work out a plaintiff's chances of success ?
Very bad. I'd caution against the appointed by X President means = Y.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
Aiui hyperpartisan judges is a very recent phenomenon due to Republicans and not matched by the Democrats. President Trump alluded to this earlier in the campaign, that (Obama and) Sleepy Joe had left more than a hundred judicial vacancies for Trump to fill. There was also something about it in one of the never-Trump Republican books from 2017 or thereabouts.
Perhaps fact that GOPers running US Senate during final two years of Obama presidency had something to do with this situation?
I'm sure President Trump would not seek to mislead anyone but in any case, the point is clear about appointing partisans to the bench.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
I don’t the Foxy was referring to the size of its economy, so much as the democratic experiment of the last two and a half centuries.
Not sure that follows either, unless democracy only works if it produces results that appease educated liberals
I don’t think that was his point, either. If you believe a re-elected Trump would pose no threat to the constitution in his second term of office, then we’ll have to agree to differ.
The separation of powers by the very nature of the US constitution gives the US President even with a big election win fewer powers than a UK PM with a big majority in the Commons
With that latest Siena College/NYT Montana Poll the Nightmare scenario becomes ever more plausible.
Trump won Montana by 21 points. The Siena poll puts Biden with 6. On UNS Biden should only be within 12.
If Trump wins it will be with Biden coming pointlessly close in numerous Deep Red states.
Combined with landslide Biden wins in California and New York and a closer result in Texas while Trump scrapes home in Michigan, Florida, Iowa and Arizona and North Carolina to narrowly win the EC even despite being 3-4% behind Biden in the national popular vote.
Add the 'undecideds' with Siena to Trump and he would indeed be just 3% behind Biden nationally, within range of a narrow EC victory
PB Tories no comment at all, I wonder how quick they would be on it if it was a Labour MP
First, I don't think there are any PB Tories any more. Secondly, nobody knows what this is about and you are not allowed to tell us. Thirdly, what the story is truly about is the pompous idiocy of the jury system. OT1H the randomers on the jury are supposed to have the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to convict defendants, or not, on charges which can lead to life imprisonment. OTO, if we have an instance of Priti being a twat on twitter, the option of saying "You probably never saw this but if you did it's just Priti being a twat on twitter, ignore it and carry on" is not available, because it seems jurors lack the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to understand and follow that advice. So which is it?
PB Tories no comment at all, I wonder how quick they would be on it if it was a Labour MP
First, I don't think there are any PB Tories any more. Secondly, nobody knows what this is about and you are not allowed to tell us. Thirdly, what the story is truly about is the pompous idiocy of the jury system. OT1H the randomers on the jury are supposed to have the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to convict defendants, or not, on charges which can lead to life imprisonment. OTO, if we have an instance of Priti being a twat on twitter, the option of saying "You probably never saw this but if you did it's just Priti being a twat on twitter, ignore it and carry on" is not available, because it seems jurors lack the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to understand and follow that advice. So which is it?
Imagine Dianne Abbott had said the same thing. Would you be saying the same thing, of course not.
No, there is a narrow route for Trump. If he wins though, America is done. 4 more years of the egotistical crook will do irrevocable harm.
No it isn't, America is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth, Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations at present, from Bolsonaro in Brazil to Modi in India, to Netanyahu in Israel to Duda in Poland and Putin in Russia or Duherte in the Philippinnes and maybe in a few years Salvini in Italy.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
"Trump's win would be no more different than other populist nationalists who have been elected to lead their nations . . ."
Sorry, but THAT is a total crock of shit.
Because America is NOT like other nations. And NOT just because it "is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth".
It is, America is no longer some sort of utopia to which the rest of the democratic and free world looks for leadership, in fact arguably over recent years Merkel's Germany has ironically taken over that role
Marvellous to see such a magnificent example of Britsplaining the US to an American in the wild!
With that latest Siena College/NYT Montana Poll the Nightmare scenario becomes ever more plausible.
Trump won Montana by 21 points. The Siena poll puts Biden with 6. On UNS Biden should only be within 12.
If Trump wins it will be with Biden coming pointlessly close in numerous Deep Red states.
This is my main concern in regards the National Vote vs the State Voting. That Biden is getting closer in states that dont matter and hence the high National Poll lead. Getting closer in Texas, Georgia, Montana and even Alaska isnt going to help him much.
I also noticed a couple of new polls on 538 from either low rated or non rated pollsters but all the same very favourable to Trump
Basswood Research (rated B/C) have Arizona a tie (though the poll is from early Oct) Zia Poll (rated C/D but much more recent polling) have Trump +4 in Michigan
So though the trend's the friend rather than odd polls thats now two more polling companies adding to the narrative being built by Trafalgar and Rasmussen. (and IBD to a lesser extent)
PB Tories no comment at all, I wonder how quick they would be on it if it was a Labour MP
First, I don't think there are any PB Tories any more. Secondly, nobody knows what this is about and you are not allowed to tell us. Thirdly, what the story is truly about is the pompous idiocy of the jury system. OT1H the randomers on the jury are supposed to have the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to convict defendants, or not, on charges which can lead to life imprisonment. OTO, if we have an instance of Priti being a twat on twitter, the option of saying "You probably never saw this but if you did it's just Priti being a twat on twitter, ignore it and carry on" is not available, because it seems jurors lack the intelligence, integrity, independence and soundness of judgment to understand and follow that advice. So which is it?
Imagine Dianne Abbott had said the same thing. Would you be saying the same thing, of course not.
And no more PB Tories? Hahahahaha
I don't know what "the same thing" is, you absolute beneficiary of my unwavering policy of never in any circumstances calling other people morons on the internet.
Have just seen what Patel tweeted. Hahahahahaha - she really is an utter moron.
PB Tories already ignored it. Imagine if Dianne Abbott had tweeted the same
It's not ignoring it, it's more out of respect for Mike, PBers as a general rule err on the side of caution when it comes to something that might get Mike into trouble.
See how PB as a general rule avoided the Alex Salmond stuff from the moment he was charged until the actual trial.
A really striking difference in voting numbers. Is it something that happens here?
Back in 2012-14 there was a bit of a gender gap when it came to Scottish independence.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
One thing that I have noticed in UK polling is that Women are twice as likely as men to be undecided, but do turn out on the day, breaking more for Labour.
In polling I've seen over decades, very typical for women to be more undecided than men, whatever the jurisdiction or the election.
The tendency to see parties akin to sports teams that you support come what may is perhaps one with a gender bias to it.
Interesting point, though do NOT think that is real X factor in this particular gender gap, as it also occurs in less- or totally non-partisan elections.
AND based on my own observations, think increasing numbers of women (at least in US) are sports fans AND loyal to their favorite teams.
One small point of evidence: check out King Co Elections webcam for their Election Services Center, which directly assists voters in person. One of the workers helping voters is wearing her Seattle Seahawks jersey.
For today is Blue Friday for "the 12s" before this Sunday's NFL game between Seattle (5-0) and Arizona Cardinals (4-2)
Comments
Possibly...
https://twitter.com/DPMcBride/status/1319683559993581574
Pivot to the centre ? Pivot to facsism more like from Trump.
Women were much more reticent to back independence than men.
Educated women in strongly Red areas.
Appeals court above is the 9th circuit which oversees California, Oregon, Washington, Arizona! (Nice one for the Dems), Hawaii and Alaska. Probably the most liberal appeals court in the whole of the USA.
So I don't think the Nevada GOP has much chance aside from perhaps a couple of minor concessions in their moves.
Edit: I know it has been pointed out, as TSE has below, that who appointed who is not an absolute determinator of outcomes, but the parties clearly value getting to appoint people they consider reliable for a reason, so onthe whole it must surely bear fruit.
John Paul Stevens and David Souter were appointed by Republican Presidents but were the most reliably liberal votes in SCOTUS.
The only question is how significant the numbers.
https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
Activities viewable via live cam include:
> Election service center (where voters with issues can come in person to register, get ballots and vote)
> Drop box sorting
> Sorting (of all returned ballots, into batches for verification, quality control and eventual tabulation)
> Alternative format ballot processing
> Signature verification
> Envelope review (for ballots that are "challenged" by election workers due mostly to missing or mismatched signatures)
> Opening (where ballots approved from counting are taken out of envelops and inspected)
> Ballot review (where ballots with issues such as voter corrections, stray marks, etc are processed by teams of workers)
> Scanning and tabulation (where approved, processed ballots are scanned into tabulators, with actual votes NOT tabulated until AFTER 8pm on Election Day)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1319711102977134594?s=20
Which means, either Congress and the Senate will have to start passing laws again - which requires a serious Democrat majority and will to do so.
Or court packing. Which in turn means end to the fig leaf of Judicial independence and a complete Spoils Systems when the pendulum goes back the other way. As it will....
I think a chunk of the early turnout is based on stories of this happening, plus various voter suppression methods - mainly reducing voting places in Democrat areas. So people reacted to the possibility of having to vote in person and big queues on the day by voting early.
I think you might mean anyone in a liberal democracy outside of the US ?
Don't knows
Male 94 (12% of the male sample)
Female 191 (23% of the female sample.
https://www.opinium.com/resource-center/voting-intention-8th-october-2020/
I've always got a few if Trump were to win.
In fact some on here would also put Boris in that bracket in the UK too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwvdsM3zrM&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2IkdwfttKhhfDOkgvbWpDZMXccaUZ7Z9k5ynfsa6mXwIoziDcG692rw1Y
The usual MO of the prosecution is to begin by throwing the book at the accused and charging them with everything they can possibly think of meaning the accused is facing often quite literally the rest of their life in jail, if all the charges are proved. Then they offer a plea bargain to a much, much reduced set of charges with a relatively small penalty.
Most defendants take the bargain: to not to, you'd have to be supremely confident that the DA's case won't stand up, and that your lawyer can make that so. If you're too poor to afford a lawyer good enough to give you that confidence, which the vast majority of those accused are, then it becomes a no-brainer.
There's also the scandal of bail in America.
John Oliver once did a segment on it, and it seemed disproportionately favour the wealthy, and discriminate against the poor and ethnic minorities.
The prison service in America seems to employ people who think prison rape is just one of those things that happen to bad people, and anyone in prison is a bad person.
PB Tories, any comment?
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1319172209403961346?s=20
For example:
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/10/16/voting-intention-con-39-lab-38-14-15-oct
20% of females vs 12% of men were "don't knows" in voting intention, but equal on certainty to vote, and females were more likely to break for SKS to BJ.
Women are basically less dogmatic in their views IMO.
Sorry, but THAT is a total crock of shit.
Because America is NOT like other nations. And NOT just because it "is still the largest economy with the largest military on earth".
https://www.salon.com/2020/10/16/watchdog-group-accuses-amy-coney-barrett-of-unconscionable-cruelty-in-teen-rape-case/
No, for once I am not joking.
Presumably Tories won’t ask for Ben to apologise?
It’s generally believed in academia that he hasn’t written anything since his PhD as he forces his research assistants to write under his name.
If you believe a re-elected Trump would pose no threat to the constitution in his second term of office, then we’ll have to agree to differ.
It is not a matter of right vs left. I don't think Romney would have done so much damage.
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1319723241636855808
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1319705156938829826?s=09
And the community facebook page is something Drakeford should avoid
Trump won Montana by 21 points. The Siena poll puts Biden with 6. On UNS Biden should only be within 12.
If Trump wins it will be with Biden coming pointlessly close in numerous Deep Red states.
Add the 'undecideds' with Siena to Trump and he would indeed be just 3% behind Biden nationally, within range of a narrow EC victory
Dave was right, too many tweets do make a twat.
And no more PB Tories? Hahahahaha
I also noticed a couple of new polls on 538 from either low rated or non rated pollsters but all the same very favourable to Trump
Basswood Research (rated B/C) have Arizona a tie (though the poll is from early Oct)
Zia Poll (rated C/D but much more recent polling) have Trump +4 in Michigan
So though the trend's the friend rather than odd polls thats now two more polling companies adding to the narrative being built by Trafalgar and Rasmussen. (and IBD to a lesser extent)
See how PB as a general rule avoided the Alex Salmond stuff from the moment he was charged until the actual trial.
Sung by Wolves supporters to Shrewsbury Town supporters in the FA Cup last season.
Turns out they really are.
I'm not talking about lean R respectable pollsters such as St Pete, HarrisX, IBD and even Rasmussen.
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1319725703584251904
(Highly likely biased) fieldwork 3 fucking weeks ago !
AND based on my own observations, think increasing numbers of women (at least in US) are sports fans AND loyal to their favorite teams.
One small point of evidence: check out King Co Elections webcam for their Election Services Center, which directly assists voters in person. One of the workers helping voters is wearing her Seattle Seahawks jersey.
For today is Blue Friday for "the 12s" before this Sunday's NFL game between Seattle (5-0) and Arizona Cardinals (4-2)
Go Hawks!