Actually I’ve had a better idea on a new national anthem. Not Bohemian Rapsody (too long, no one normal can sing it) but anothe Queen staple: We Are The Champions.
I like that but it would have been embarrassing having that played to introduce our Cricket team in the 90s.
On the flip side - the IAmAshamedOfBeingBritish brigade would explode like the ending of a Scanners movie...
Actually I’ve had a better idea on a new national anthem. Not Bohemian Rapsody (too long, no one normal can sing it) but anothe Queen staple: We Are The Champions.
I like that but it would have been embarrassing having that played to introduce our Cricket team in the 90s.
Singing the National Anthem at cricket matches, even if they are Test matches, should be abolished.
It would be a good Anthem to have at the Olympics though...
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
I Vow To Thee My Country. A very singable hymn.
A fine tune, but a tad depressing. An anthem should be rousing?
Whatever the merits of demerits of God Save the Queen or its alternatives, we should be happy that anything we choose to sing will always be infinitely better than, Lord help us, "Flower of Scotland"
OMFG lol
As sung by upper class rugger buggers at Murrayfield ...
I quite agree. A man's a man for all that is the one to go for.
It is possibly the worst anthem in the world. No offence.
Scotland has so many good tunes, and you ended up with THAT
The Proclaimers 500 miles would make a good modern anthem! Call and response, very stirring, excellent melody
That's an interesting suggestion!
Scots wha hae is much better than FoS, if you want a stirring battle hymn, and if you want a Flodden lament there's The flooers o the forest are a wede awa, though that's more likely to be encountered at a funeral actually.
It's quite common for nations to pick terrible dirgey anthems when they have brilliant tunes everyone knows
Advance Australia Fair is awful, yet Waltzing Mathilda, sung by 100,000 lusty Aussies can bring a stern man close to tears
That Irish anthem is shite, and yet when they sing Molly Malone, or the Fields of Athenry....
The Londonderry Air is sublime. Is it tarnished by being unacceptable on one side of the religious divide? (And if so, which side; I really don't know.)
One of the greatest tunes ever written. But too sad and yearning for an anthem?
It is possibly Gaelic in origin (no one knows for sure), but it comes from Ulster traditions, and the words are "Protestant" so it is quite unifying. Both sides can claim it
How about Danny Boy for an English anthem? Words written by an Englishman after all.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
Land of Peace and Fairness. Brothers all are we.
No objection to revising the words. Just keep the tune.
All these old hymns have problems imo.
Hold a competition for a new secular anthem.
Change the national anthem to Bohemian Rhapsody, an anthem we all know and love.
That would be an awesome anthem to be played while our athletes walked in at the Olympics.
"Scaramouche Scaramouche will you do the Fandango?"
You want that in the National Anthem?
Yes!
As a line it sure beats "Send her victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us"
Or "O Lord our God arise, Scatter thine enemies, And make them fall!"
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship.
56% of the global population belong to an Abrahamic religion
They may have evolved from a common ancestor but saying that they're the same is like saying that humans and chimpanzees are the same.
Trumpsky is working overtime to bring back that REALLY Old Time Religion - Baal worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
I Vow To Thee My Country. A very singable hymn.
A fine tune, but a tad depressing. An anthem should be rousing?
Whatever the merits of demerits of God Save the Queen or its alternatives, we should be happy that anything we choose to sing will always be infinitely better than, Lord help us, "Flower of Scotland"
OMFG lol
As sung by upper class rugger buggers at Murrayfield ...
I quite agree. A man's a man for all that is the one to go for.
It is possibly the worst anthem in the world. No offence.
Scotland has so many good tunes, and you ended up with THAT
The Proclaimers 500 miles would make a good modern anthem! Call and response, very stirring, excellent melody
That's an interesting suggestion!
Scots wha hae is much better than FoS, if you want a stirring battle hymn, and if you want a Flodden lament there's The flooers o the forest are a wede awa, though that's more likely to be encountered at a funeral actually.
It's quite common for nations to pick terrible dirgey anthems when they have brilliant tunes everyone knows
Advance Australia Fair is awful, yet Waltzing Mathilda, sung by 100,000 lusty Aussies can bring a stern man close to tears
That Irish anthem is shite, and yet when they sing Molly Malone, or the Fields of Athenry....
The Londonderry Air is sublime. Is it tarnished by being unacceptable on one side of the religious divide? (And if so, which side; I really don't know.)
One of the greatest tunes ever written. But too sad and yearning for an anthem?
It is possibly Gaelic in origin (no one knows for sure), but it comes from Ulster traditions, and the words are "Protestant" so it is quite unifying. Both sides can claim it
The name "Londonderry" is completely unacceptable. So it would have to be referred to as the Derry Air, problematically.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
Land of Peace and Fairness. Brothers all are we.
No objection to revising the words. Just keep the tune.
All these old hymns have problems imo.
Hold a competition for a new secular anthem.
Change the national anthem to Bohemian Rhapsody, an anthem we all know and love.
That would be an awesome anthem to be played while our athletes walked in at the Olympics.
"Scaramouche Scaramouche will you do the Fandango?"
You want that in the National Anthem?
Plus the first word of the Qur’an, Bismillah. Which is a fine word, but the context it is used in is a bit odd to say the least.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
Land of Peace and Fairness. Brothers all are we.
No objection to revising the words. Just keep the tune.
All these old hymns have problems imo.
Hold a competition for a new secular anthem.
Change the national anthem to Bohemian Rhapsody, an anthem we all know and love.
That would be an awesome anthem to be played while our athletes walked in at the Olympics.
"Scaramouche Scaramouche will you do the Fandango?"
You want that in the National Anthem?
Yes!
As a line it sure beats "Send her victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us"
Or "O Lord our God arise, Scatter thine enemies, And make them fall!"
Without getting to the infamous Scottish verse.
We could just rewrite the current one to fit contemporary religious views: "God save the NHS".
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
Quite right. Jerusalem probably fits the bill? Haven’t double checked every lyric!
Still a bit religious, as is Land of Hope and Glory, but not enough to bother me. I'd be happy with either but prefer the latter.
Jerusalem and Land of Hope and Glory are both what an anthem should be - about what you want your country to be. Not sycophantically pandering to an individual.
Land of Peace and Fairness. Brothers all are we.
No objection to revising the words. Just keep the tune.
All these old hymns have problems imo.
Hold a competition for a new secular anthem.
Change the national anthem to Bohemian Rhapsody, an anthem we all know and love.
That would be an awesome anthem to be played while our athletes walked in at the Olympics.
"Scaramouche Scaramouche will you do the Fandango?"
You want that in the National Anthem?
Yes!
As a line it sure beats "Send her victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us"
Or "O Lord our God arise, Scatter thine enemies, And make them fall!"
Without getting to the infamous Scottish verse.
“May she defend our laws And ever give us cause To sing with heart and voice God save the Queen” Is a bit more conditional though. The second verse needs to be sung more.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Pence has apparently cancelled his Friday appointments and is flying back to Washington. He's not tested positive for Coronavirus according to his team.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
There’s the old story of the priest talking to a vicar: “we all worship God in different ways: you in yours and me in his”.
Actually I’ve had a better idea on a new national anthem. Not Bohemian Rapsody (too long, no one normal can sing it) but anothe Queen staple: We Are The Champions.
Fat bottomed girls is my favourite Queen song. Wouldn't support it as our National Anthem though. Not appropriate. Not sure any of their songs are despite the name of the band.
It'd be funny to see how Scots would react if he flagged an English goal off for offside.
Despite the shitey BBC feeling that we Jocks should enjoy the privilege of watching an England friendly rather than a Scottish qualifying match, I doubt many outside the ultra Yoons will be watching.
Aren't you impressed with the offerings of BBC Scotland this evening ?
19:00 Island Medics 19:30 Beechgrove 20:00 Landward 20:30 The Scandals That Shocked Scotland 21:00 The Nine 22:00 The Karen Dubar Show
Shitey BBC covers all the bases. The Scotch branch is particularly poop themed.
I notice that we're now running at tests >250k per day and a gap has re-opened between tests processed and capacity.
Haven't noticed anyone complaining recently that they can't get a test. Have the capacity issues been resolved for now or still ongoing?
I can't imagine the Roche issues will be helping.
Have been thinking the same myself.
FWIW I know half a dozen people who have had tests in the past few weeks, none had problems getting them and all received results within a day or so (all negative).
I wonder how much the testing problems were from parents wanting tests for their kids after they came back from school with a start of term cough.
The reason for the problems in getting a test were quite simple. Demand suddenly rose to around 100% of capacity. In fact on 19th Sept and 26th September tests processed *exceeded* theoretical capacity.
Test capacity then increased to over 300k and the gap between capacity and demand opened up again. It is entirely unsurprising that with excess capacity in the system again, that problems getting a test have apparently subsided.
Certainly supply and demand are the two determinants.
But I wonder if the demand for tests on school pupils was higher in September than it is now.
Like for many things the data isn't available.
Stories about schools sending whole years home do seem to have gone quiet. Whether that just means the media have lost interest or not can't tell.
I wouldn't be surprised if we look back on the last couple of weeks in a month and realise that everyone's got massively spooked by universities and the numbers drop dramatically again.
I don't think the steady rise in hospitalisations and deaths since early September is due to people being spooked by the university numbers.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
Yep, the strategy is entirely dependent now on a vaccine arriving in the new year. Some will say what choice is there. Others will say we have to learn to live with it and work as if there is no vaccine (Swedish view).
Actually I’ve had a better idea on a new national anthem. Not Bohemian Rapsody (too long, no one normal can sing it) but anothe Queen staple: We Are The Champions.
Fat bottomed girls is my favourite Queen song. Wouldn't support it as our National Anthem though. Not appropriate. Not sure any of their songs are despite the name of the band.
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Pence has apparently cancelled his Friday appointments and is flying back to Washington. He's not tested positive for Coronavirus according to his team.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
No, there are many ways we can reduce our risks while still enjoying life.
Vulnerable people obviously would mostly take more precautions, and less vulnerable people need to ensure that while exercising their own freedoms, they do not impinge on others. After all, the fundamental thing about good manners is not making other people feel uncomfortable.
"House speaker Nancy Pelosi and representative Jamie Raskin, a Democrat from Maryland, are tomorrow morning introducing a bill to create a commission to evaluate the president’s fitness for office under the 25th amendment."
Why now? Seems like terrible timing to me. Biden should have a quiet word with Pelosi.
It certainly doesn't look like a move from a Party that's confident their man is going to be President in under one month's time.
Are the Democrats sniffing yet another polling disaster incoming...
One thing is absolutely sure. In one month's time Biden will not be president. Hopefully he will be in 3 months 12 days though.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What part of bonkers is the idea in government that you can rerun the harrying of the North from next week but still trumpet allowing half-term holiday breaks in Greek islands.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
It'd be funny to see how Scots would react if he flagged an English goal off for offside.
Despite the shitey BBC feeling that we Jocks should enjoy the privilege of watching an England friendly rather than a Scottish qualifying match, I doubt many outside the ultra Yoons will be watching.
Aren't you impressed with the offerings of BBC Scotland this evening ?
19:00 Island Medics 19:30 Beechgrove 20:00 Landward 20:30 The Scandals That Shocked Scotland 21:00 The Nine 22:00 The Karen Dubar Show
Shitey BBC covers all the bases. The Scotch branch is particularly poop themed.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
God I just saw the Royal Ballet rehearsing for an actual show on BBC Ten (highly restricted performance, their first since March) and I nearly burst into tears.
You only realise what you've lost, perhaps, when it returns, however tentatively. And I can't abide ballet
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Pence has apparently cancelled his Friday appointments and is flying back to Washington. He's not tested positive for Coronavirus according to his team.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
The terminally stupid don't realise if we go for a 'let it rip' strategy is that the country will go into a de facto lockdown as they don't want to catch it, it is kinda what happened in Sweden.
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Pence has apparently cancelled his Friday appointments and is flying back to Washington. He's not tested positive for Coronavirus according to his team.
But not a chance he would this close to the election.
I was being a bit mischievous but...
If Trump goes down in flames, as things stand Pence crashes with him. Maybe his (Pence's) long terms prospect would be better served by invoking the 25th now, citing Covid.
"House speaker Nancy Pelosi and representative Jamie Raskin, a Democrat from Maryland, are tomorrow morning introducing a bill to create a commission to evaluate the president’s fitness for office under the 25th amendment."
Why now? Seems like terrible timing to me. Biden should have a quiet word with Pelosi.
It certainly doesn't look like a move from a Party that's confident their man is going to be President in under one month's time.
Are the Democrats sniffing yet another polling disaster incoming...
One thing is absolutely sure. In one month's time Biden will not be president. Hopefully he will be in 3 months 12 days though.
Trump is going off the deep end fast. Pence might decide enough is enough if they lose, invoke the 25th. Then he could retire, Pelosi becomes President, appoints Biden as Veep, then Pelosi steps down.
I have received a party email asking if I fancy being mayor of West Yorkshire.
Perhaps next time.
You'd be great. You'd appear a couple of times a day with a pithy one liner then bugger off back into lockdown. Thus achieving more than any other UK politician at the moment.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
It does.
It does not
It does.
It does not
This is not a question which can be decided either way by rational debate I fear.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
It is. June next year. Great news. But not a silver bullet. A tool in the box. A big tool yes. A powerful tool. But not a silver bullet.
God I just saw the Royal Ballet rehearsing for an actual show on BBC Ten (highly restricted performance, their first since March) and I nearly burst into tears.
You only realise what you've lost, perhaps, when it returns, however tentatively. And I can't abide ballet
BBC Ten! We struggle to get BBC Four down in Dorset
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
It does.
“My perception of our God is exactly right and your perception of our God is completely wrong”
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Distribution is the most overlooked aspect, especially the Oxford one as it has to be at -70c the whole time.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
It does.
It does not
It does.
It does not
This is not a question which can be decided either way by rational debate I fear.
The Pelosi commission is to make sure there are no issues in how the 25th amendment is discharged and has to be bi-partisan so won’t happen without GOP input . Not sure what the big deal is . People aren’t voting on Pelosi and given Trumps recent behaviour not sure the GOP screaming and shouting about this and highlighting this would do much good for them as it just focuses people on whether Trump is becoming even more unstable than normal !
How is a commission meant to make the 25th bipartisan?
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Pence has apparently cancelled his Friday appointments and is flying back to Washington. He's not tested positive for Coronavirus according to his team.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
The terminally stupid don't realise if we go for a 'let it rip' strategy is that the country will go into a de facto lockdown as they don't want to catch it, it is kinda what happened in Sweden.
Well, exactly, And Sweden's GDP is expected to decline by 3-4% this year.
Unlike the 5-10% or more in UK, France, Italy, Spain. And the accompanying debt, deficit, unemployment, illness, education issues, etc etc etc
There is almost no doubt now. A medium touch voluntary CONSISTENT keep-the-schools open policy was the way to go, from the start. The Swedes were right.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Distribution is the most overlooked aspect, especially the Oxford one as it has to be at -70c the whole time.
I have faith in Matt Hancock and Dido Harding to sort it out, ah yes, I see the cause for concern.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
It does.
It does not
It does.
It does not
This is not a question which can be decided either way by rational debate I fear.
It's a bit History Today.
Fun though. I was wondering how long it could go on for.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
The terminally stupid don't realise if we go for a 'let it rip' strategy is that the country will go into a de facto lockdown as they don't want to catch it, it is kinda what happened in Sweden.
Some would and some wouldn't.
A 90% asymptomatic rate isn't going to worry many of the young.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Also, it may well be not be 100% effective: might reduce symptoms for example rather than stop someone developing any at all. The ill and frail may still succumb. We just don't know at this point.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
There is a vaccine now, in China, from a reputable pharmaceutical firm - China National Biotec. They have what is effectively an open Phase 3 trial. And lots of people, particularly the urban wealthy, are already paying to get it.
How effective it is, we don't know. But there will be millions of people vaccinated with it by the end of the year.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
It is. June next year. Great news. But not a silver bullet. A tool in the box. A big tool yes. A powerful tool. But not a silver bullet.
June next year for it to be fully rolled out I thought.
A lot of reports that it could be started to be rolled out to frontline care workers and residents (the most vulnerable demographic) before Christmas, then the vulnerable over 65s and so on in the New Year.
Once the most vulnerable are vaccinated it will matter less if others haven't been yet.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Highly possible. Cementing Chinese supremacy and the decline of the West, especially America. This would be my narrative twist if I were scripting Covid The Movie
Actually I’ve had a better idea on a new national anthem. Not Bohemian Rapsody (too long, no one normal can sing it) but anothe Queen staple: We Are The Champions.
Fat bottomed girls is my favourite Queen song. Wouldn't support it as our National Anthem though. Not appropriate. Not sure any of their songs are despite the name of the band.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Highly possible. Cementing Chinese supremacy and the decline of the West, especially America. This would be my narrative twist if I were scripting Covid The Movie
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they already have it. Look at their stats! And they sequenced the RNA in a jiffy back in February.
The commission looking into the 25th amendment doesn’t name Trump . Pelosi’s argument is basically given recent events there needs to be more clarity on this for the future .
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Highly possible. Cementing Chinese supremacy and the decline of the West, especially America. This would be my narrative twist if I were scripting Covid The Movie
Why would you trust a Chinese vaccine given it was China who allowed the virus to spread in the first place?
So why is Exeter university a centre of infection and not Bath university or Brighton (Sussex) or Guildford (Surrey) or Canterbury (Kent) ?
Likewise Nottingham but not Leicester and so on.
Is it simply because some universities have widespread testing and others don't ?
It's growing rapidly at Bath. Number of cases each day since the start of October: 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 18, 33
Could be differences in start of term dates. Could be random chance. Could relate to how well/badly they university is encouraging students to follow advice. Design of accommodation. Quantity of face-to-face teaching.
I'm sure there's a lot of good epidemiology to be done working it out.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
There is a vaccine now, in China, from a reputable pharmaceutical firm - China National Biotec. They have what is effectively an open Phase 3 trial. And lots of people, particularly the urban wealthy, are already paying to get it.
How effective it is, we don't know. But there will be millions of people vaccinated with it by the end of the year.
It'd be funny to see how Scots would react if he flagged an English goal off for offside.
Despite the shitey BBC feeling that we Jocks should enjoy the privilege of watching an England friendly rather than a Scottish qualifying match, I doubt many outside the ultra Yoons will be watching.
Aren't you impressed with the offerings of BBC Scotland this evening ?
19:00 Island Medics 19:30 Beechgrove 20:00 Landward 20:30 The Scandals That Shocked Scotland 21:00 The Nine 22:00 The Karen Dubar Show
Shitey BBC covers all the bases. The Scotch branch is particularly poop themed.
The Beechgrove Garden is well appreciated here.
Fair enough, I'll put that in 'the not my cup of tea' column rather than the jobby one (and I'll except a good deal of BBC radio).
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Distribution is the most overlooked aspect, especially the Oxford one as it has to be at -70c the whole time.
Are you sure? I thought the Oxford vaccine was one that only needed the same levels of refrigeration as flu vaccines.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Want to bet?
I bet that the UK government will have started a mass vaccination programme by the end of next April, with a non-Chinese vaccine.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
The terminally stupid don't realise if we go for a 'let it rip' strategy is that the country will go into a de facto lockdown as they don't want to catch it, it is kinda what happened in Sweden.
Well, exactly, And Sweden's GDP is expected to decline by 3-4% this year.
Unlike the 5-10% or more in UK, France, Italy, Spain. And the accompanying debt, deficit, unemployment, illness, education issues, etc etc etc
There is almost no doubt now. A medium touch voluntary CONSISTENT keep-the-schools open policy was the way to go, from the start. The Swedes were right.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
The terminally stupid don't realise if we go for a 'let it rip' strategy is that the country will go into a de facto lockdown as they don't want to catch it, it is kinda what happened in Sweden.
Some would and some wouldn't.
A 90% asymptomatic rate isn't going to worry many of the young.
A lot of them don't want dead grandparents though.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Want to bet?
I bet that the UK government will have started a mass vaccination programme by the end of next April, with a non-Chinese vaccine.
£20?
Hey, I should have added an emoji, but thought that would be too blatant.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
The only viable vaccine will be the Chinese one. In 2022.
Highly possible. Cementing Chinese supremacy and the decline of the West, especially America. This would be my narrative twist if I were scripting Covid The Movie
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they already have it. Look at their stats! And they sequenced the RNA in a jiffy back in February.
I've long had this theory, and I have espoused it on here.
The Chinese discovered this new bat coronavirus, in that famous Wuhan lab, and realised its bioweapon potential pretty soon: the way it would attack western economies and their crucial liberties, while barely touching Asian societies with high conformity and surveillance.
They kept it in reserve. The idea was to threaten it - or even release it - when America was about to throw nukes over Taiwan. But the Chinese plan was only to release it when China already had a vaccine, a vaccine they could then swiftly offer to the world, thereby being seen as a saviour, while fucking the West and America, economically.
The virus escaped by accident too early, maybe it leaked at that market, via a bat in a stew. So the Chinese have had to accelerate the plan and develop a virus very very fast.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
Part of our Head of State's coronation oath as Head of the Church of England as well as Head of State is to 'maintaine the Laws of God the true profession of the Gospell and the Protestant reformed religion established by law', the monarch is also crowned and anointed by the Archbishop of Canterbury
But she doesn't maintain the laws of God.
Otherwise she would have punished her fornicating and adulterous eldest son, the son that is likely to succeed her.
Absolutely which is yet another reason its long past time to get rid of these religious fripperies.
If LadyG and HYUFD want to believe in religious babble then I have no qualms with them going to whatever Temple, Church, Mosque or whatever else floats their boat any day they want to. Just don't expect everyone else to share your fantasies.
Well, tough shit, because the chances of changing the national anthem are about 0.3%, or less, and if we did it would likely be replaced by Jerusalem, which is even more religious. And, of course, the chances of us becoming a republic are significantly lower
The chances of becoming a republic in HMQs liftetime is 0% The chances of becoming a republic in my lifetime is much higher than that.
But the post you replied to spoke about religion not the monarchy, though I can see why you'd mix up those two medieval absurdities. Disestablishment of the Church in my lifetime, removing the Bishops from Parliament etc in my lifetime I expect to be well, well over 50%.
Your religion is medieval bollocks and not shared by everyone in this country. Get over it. Pray in your Churches but leave the rest of us out of it.
A religion is like a penis, it is fine to have one, it is fine to be proud of it, but please don't wave it about in public and please don't shove it uninvited down the throat of others.
Let me get this straight: @LadyG is shoving her penis uninvited down your throat?
"House speaker Nancy Pelosi and representative Jamie Raskin, a Democrat from Maryland, are tomorrow morning introducing a bill to create a commission to evaluate the president’s fitness for office under the 25th amendment."
Why now? Seems like terrible timing to me. Biden should have a quiet word with Pelosi.
That's fucking insane. What are they doing?
Perhaps... They can do this now, when Democrats will see it being aimed at Trump, but then they can use it to choose when Biden steps down.
So a power-play by Congress to assert power over the President, and manage the transition from old Biden to Harris (or someone else, if they decide to use leverage over timing to give them control of identity).
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
There is a vaccine now, in China, from a reputable pharmaceutical firm - China National Biotec. They have what is effectively an open Phase 3 trial. And lots of people, particularly the urban wealthy, are already paying to get it.
How effective it is, we don't know. But there will be millions of people vaccinated with it by the end of the year.
JFC they are just praying for a vaccine. What if we don't get one, for years, or forever?
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
What if we do get one in a month's time?
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
Remember the LadyG Covid rule:
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
Distribution is the most overlooked aspect, especially the Oxford one as it has to be at -70c the whole time.
Just give it to the most vulnerable first, whatever it takes. And make healthy under 50s realise they are going to be at the back of the queue.
I don’t see any other option given the distribution of it is so tricky.
Can we please also finally change the English national anthem to Land of Hope and Glory or Jerusalem? It is ridiculous and in my view disrespectful to Wales to have God Save the Queen as our anthem when she is their Queen too and the same goes for when England plays Scotland or Northern Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or Canada.
Just play God Save the Queen when a royal is in attendance at an England game alongside the English anthem or for Team GB at the Olympics
How about we sing a national anthem that is about the country and not asking a sky fairy to save a wealthy individual "born to rule over us"?
The Queen is our Head of State and anointed by God at her coronation and the royal anthem reflects that, however that does not prevent having an English national anthem as well
"Anointed by God" 😂
We're a country with people and voters, not a theocracy.
If you want to pray to a God on Sundays or any other day then that's fine, do whatever you please. Don't shove it down the rest of our throats though.
But she is literally anointed "by God". There is a special anointing oil used during the Coronation of an English Sovereign, a sacred and holy recipe dating back to Moses and Mesopotamia
I believe royal babies are also baptised with Jordan water. So take yer boring, colourless republican atheism and shove it
So, the Anglican God is *the* God, is it? Have you told the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Quakers, the Jews, the Muslims and the Sikhs yet?
There is only 1 God if you belong to an Abrahamic religion, which includes all Christians, Muslims and Jews, just different methods of worshipping him. It is still the same God who revealed himself to Abraham that you worship
No it isn't.
Yes it is, see the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron which is a sacred site for Christians, Muslims and Jews
While there are certain common traditions and even some common theology, the reasons that there are 3 different Abrahamic religions* is because that there are fundamental and irreconcilable differences in how God is conceived.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
That does not change the fact it is still the same God they worship
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It would be a good Anthem to have at the Olympics though...
As a line it sure beats "Send her victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us"
Or "O Lord our God arise, Scatter thine enemies, And make them fall!"
Without getting to the infamous Scottish verse.
The area has improved markedly since.
* and umpteen different sects of each.
The 25th is very detailed on its rules. The Veep and a majority of the Cabinet voting to invoke it won't be bipartisan, while the supermajority required in Congress if it comes to a vote almost certainly must be.
Which is a fine word, but the context it is used in is a bit odd to say the least.
Winner hands down though is Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. I trust no one here needs a translation?
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen”
Is a bit more conditional though. The second verse needs to be sung more.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54465174
https://eu.indystar.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/08/mike-pence-cancels-appearance-vote-friday-indy/5911905002/
Could Pence be about to invoke the 25th?
Perhaps next time.
Does every vulnerable person stay indoors and alone until they die of madness, anyway?
In the end we simply have to brave the virus, and take the risks
I think only the Torygraph has been on the anti-lockdown bandwagon from the beginning.
Currently rising by about a million a day.
Massive policy decision.
Where is the debate in the House of Commons?
But not a chance he would this close to the election.
Vulnerable people obviously would mostly take more precautions, and less vulnerable people need to ensure that while exercising their own freedoms, they do not impinge on others. After all, the fundamental thing about good manners is not making other people feel uncomfortable.
Any excuse to be angry, that is the Mail's demographic.
Belgrade with no fans is better than Belgrade with 53,000 flare-shooting ultras.
It seems mad to go through all we've gone through, be in the final stages of vaccine trials - only to then let it rip just weeks before the vaccine trials are scheduled to end.
If we were going to let it just go naturally, we should have made that decision back in February/March when Eadric, Bryonic and co were shitting the bed.
I suspect they know a vaccine is coming soon.
You only realise what you've lost, perhaps, when it returns, however tentatively. And I can't abide ballet
And why not? If Trump runs, he loses bigly. Ditch Trump, and who knows?
If Trump goes down in flames, as things stand Pence crashes with him. Maybe his (Pence's) long terms prospect would be better served by invoking the 25th now, citing Covid.
Not saying it will happen, but a fun thought.
Thus achieving more than any other UK politician at the moment.
Imagine your reasonable worst case scenario, because that is what will happen
So far, quite effective.
There won't be a vaccine until well into 2021, and it will come with many problems with resistance and manufacture: is my guess. I hope I am wrong.
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1314294811395006465?s=21
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Unlike the 5-10% or more in UK, France, Italy, Spain. And the accompanying debt, deficit, unemployment, illness, education issues, etc etc etc
There is almost no doubt now. A medium touch voluntary CONSISTENT keep-the-schools open policy was the way to go, from the start. The Swedes were right.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/10/06/swedish-economy-dodges-covid-bullet-says-danske-bank/
A 90% asymptomatic rate isn't going to worry many of the young.
How effective it is, we don't know. But there will be millions of people vaccinated with it by the end of the year.
A lot of reports that it could be started to be rolled out to frontline care workers and residents (the most vulnerable demographic) before Christmas, then the vulnerable over 65s and so on in the New Year.
Once the most vulnerable are vaccinated it will matter less if others haven't been yet.
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1314264646921068545
He's at his greatest with barnstorming optimism and that would have been highly inappropriate at this occasion. So he rose to this occasion instead.
p.s. confirmed by rcs100 I see.
Could be differences in start of term dates. Could be random chance. Could relate to how well/badly they university is encouraging students to follow advice. Design of accommodation. Quantity of face-to-face teaching.
I'm sure there's a lot of good epidemiology to be done working it out.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-race-turns-deep-freezers-into-a-hot-commodity-11599217201
I bet that the UK government will have started a mass vaccination programme by the end of next April, with a non-Chinese vaccine.
£20?
The Chinese discovered this new bat coronavirus, in that famous Wuhan lab, and realised its bioweapon potential pretty soon: the way it would attack western economies and their crucial liberties, while barely touching Asian societies with high conformity and surveillance.
They kept it in reserve. The idea was to threaten it - or even release it - when America was about to throw nukes over Taiwan. But the Chinese plan was only to release it when China already had a vaccine, a vaccine they could then swiftly offer to the world, thereby being seen as a saviour, while fucking the West and America, economically.
The virus escaped by accident too early, maybe it leaked at that market, via a bat in a stew. So the Chinese have had to accelerate the plan and develop a virus very very fast.
I believe this is quite plausible.
So a power-play by Congress to assert power over the President, and manage the transition from old Biden to Harris (or someone else, if they decide to use leverage over timing to give them control of identity).
https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/1-in-2-russian-doctors-say-they-wont-get-vaccinated-as-moscow-gets-ready-to-roll-out-covid-19-vaccine-poll/638043
I don’t see any other option given the distribution of it is so tricky.
Harry doing anti-racism. William doing climate change.
William winning on class and points, so far.