Brady will amend the covid regs renewal coming next week:
"The move will effectively impose a “Parliamentary lock” on any future restrictions, amid widespread fury among senior MPs and peers that restrictions have been imposed on Britons without a vote."
Telegraph.
At last. Parliament starting to do its job wrt the executive.
Brady will amend the covid regs renewal coming next week:
"The move will effectively impose a “Parliamentary lock” on any future restrictions, amid widespread fury among senior MPs and peers that restrictions have been imposed on Britons without a vote."
Telegraph.
At last. Parliament starting to do its job wrt the executive.
I guess we must now be at the point in the covid response cycle when Johnson goes to a office on Monday and exhorts everyone to get back to work and the office immediately to save the great british economy.
Brady will amend the covid regs renewal coming next week:
"The move will effectively impose a “Parliamentary lock” on any future restrictions, amid widespread fury among senior MPs and peers that restrictions have been imposed on Britons without a vote."
Telegraph.
At last. Parliament starting to do its job wrt the executive.
Good for Brady.
There is clearly real disquiet on the back benches over this.
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
When we come out Lockdown 2.0 will there be a Eat Out to Help Out 2.0 in order to persuade us it is safe to go back to eating out and visiting the pub?
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
What punishment do you think is appropriate for that idiot from Bolton that seems to be the source of most of that town's problems because he failed to self isolate. A slap on the wrist maybe?
Is Sean T around in one of his many forms? In the "Telegraph" magazine today Martin Amis is quoted as saying: "There are no other examples of a writer child from a writer parent. It makes me feel freakish". Any thoughts?.
Mary Shelley and Mary Wollstonecraft say hi.
Jules and Michel Verne.
Alexandre Dumas pere and fils.
Martin Amis obviously meant people in his league: the Shakespeares, the Goethes, the Tolstoys...
☺ - although Money is better than anything by those 3.
I guess we must now be at the point in the covid response cycle when Johnson goes to a office on Monday and exhorts everyone to get back to work and the office immediately to save the great british economy.
With fabulous added incentive, of being entered in lottery for available COVID testing schedule slot in Penzance, Wick OR Rockall!
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
I would expect anyone trying to register as Mickey Mouse will be turned away
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity now is an act of economic stupidity. Last thing you want to do is pull down aggregate demand as we head into a massive recession or even depression.
Another lockdown as Johnson is now clearly planning for the end of the month will kill any green shoots dead. And the furlough is ending.
How many massive mistakes can one PM make in a parliament?
Is Sean T around in one of his many forms? In the "Telegraph" magazine today Martin Amis is quoted as saying: "There are no other examples of a writer child from a writer parent. It makes me feel freakish". Any thoughts?.
Mary Shelley and Mary Wollstonecraft say hi.
Jules and Michel Verne.
Alexandre Dumas pere and fils.
Martin Amis obviously meant people in his league: the Shakespeares, the Goethes, the Tolstoys...
☺ - although Money is better than anything by those 3.
Well, that a view I guess. I'm inclined to think though that Money will be a little-known curiosity in 400 years, while Hamlet, Macbeth, Romeo & Juliet etc. will still be playing to live audiences. And with good reason.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity now is an act of economic stupidity. Last thing you want to do is pull down aggregate demand as we head into a massive recession or even depression.
Another lockdown as Johnson is now clearly planning for the end of the month will kill any green shoots dead. And the furlough is ending.
How many massive mistakes can one PM make in a parliament?
He reminds me of a rather acid remark I was obliged to make to Mr Kevin O’Connor of the SLC during a dispute where his staff proved incapable of reading calendars, simple forms or writing declarative sentences.
‘You bear responsibility for the stupidity, dishonesty and incompetence of your staff. You have been head of repayments since 1992. In that time, not only is it impossible to think of a year where everything has gone right, it is exceedingly difficult to think of a time when anything has gone right.’
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
What punishment do you think is appropriate for that idiot from Bolton that seems to be the source of most of that town's problems because he failed to self isolate. A slap on the wrist maybe?
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
I would expect anyone trying to register as Mickey Mouse will be turned away
Which is presumably precisely what they were hoping for.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
With all due respect, planning on the basis that "there's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future" is remarkably complacent. If 2020 has taught us anything it's that the foreseeable future is not foreseeable at all.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
What do you forecast inflation is going to be over the next couple of years?
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
With all due respect, planning on the basis that "there's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future" is remarkably complacent. If 2020 has taught us anything it's that the foreseeable future is not foreseeable at all.
But squeezing the economy dry by austerity for fear of potential inflation at some unforeseeable point in the future is worse than complacent - it's insane.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
What do you forecast inflation is going to be over the next couple of years?
Not worth the effort of trying. Too many possible variables.
But for a number of reasons it’s improbable that it will stay low.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
What do you forecast inflation is going to be over the next couple of years?
Not worth the effort of trying. Too many possible variables.
But for a number of reasons it’s improbable that it will stay low.
I think it'll be low for next couple of years, in fact could well be very low. After that, who knows. Pretty sure at some point the covid debt will be inflated away.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
What do you forecast inflation is going to be over the next couple of years?
Not worth the effort of trying. Too many possible variables.
But for a number of reasons it’s improbable that it will stay low.
In the absence of a prediction from you I'll go with this one from Tradingeconomics.
"Inflation Rate in the United Kingdom is expected to be 0.20 percent by the end of this quarter, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. Looking forward, we estimate Inflation Rate in the United Kingdom to stand at 1.80 in 12 months time. In the long-term, the United Kingdom Inflation Rate is projected to trend around 2.00 percent in 2021 and 1.70 percent in 2022, according to our econometric models."
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
I would expect anyone trying to register as Mickey Mouse will be turned away
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
Yes you are correct. They are in your imagination.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
No it isn't BigG. Printing money and taxing wealth are both viable approaches.
Freezing benefits and public-sector pay just means less money going into the economy to drive the recovery.
With millions of private sector jobs on the line freezing public sector pay and selective benefits like annual 2.5% pension increases is inevitable
How does freezing public sector pay and selective benefits save any private sector jobs? Quite the opposite - a lot of those private sector jobs rely on money being spent. You can guarantee that virtually every penny of benefits will go straight back into the economy to support those private sector jobs. (The only exception being housing benefit much of which ends up subsidising private landlords - freeze that by all means.)
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
With all due respect, planning on the basis that "there's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future" is remarkably complacent. If 2020 has taught us anything it's that the foreseeable future is not foreseeable at all.
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
I would expect anyone trying to register as Mickey Mouse will be turned away
That £10k fine for failing to self isolate is ridiculous and will lead to more people refusing to comply with the tracking system altogether and leaving their name as Mickey Mouse.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
I would expect anyone trying to register as Mickey Mouse will be turned away
What if someone’s name was Michael Mouse?
Harsh to turn him away.
I wouldn't put it past this micky mouse government.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
It’s good to know the steep increases in food prices, and the impending rise in fuel prices, are all in our imagination.
What do you forecast inflation is going to be over the next couple of years?
Not worth the effort of trying. Too many possible variables.
But for a number of reasons it’s improbable that it will stay low.
For a number of reasons it's probable it will stay low.
The problem is that perhaps in 2010-2015 world public sector freezes and so on were popular with the Tory base but I can't think that's the same situation in the new Red Wall.
I did say all of this a while ago, fundamentally Johnson successfully united Tory and Labour voters over a very limited issue which he went on about. Outside of that, they have different outlooks on life that aren't compatible. It was called the Red Wall for a reason.
Right now they're still with the Tories as Labour hasn't sorted itself out. But Labour has got rid of Corbyn, that was step one. Let's see what the next steps are.
Thanks Nurses and Doctors for your help, BTW here's a pay freeze, you're welcome
When the country is in a recession and has no money would you rather a pay freeze or job losses?
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
Thanks Nurses and Doctors for your help, BTW here's a pay freeze, you're welcome
When the country is in a recession and has no money would you rather a pay freeze or job losses?
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
Thanks Nurses and Doctors for your help, BTW here's a pay freeze, you're welcome
When the country is in a recession and has no money would you rather a pay freeze or job losses?
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
Let's see how your choice of policy goes down in the Red Wall.
The idea we need to freeze the pay of doctors and nurses to sort this out is for the birds. That money will come nowhere close to getting us out of this hole.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
No it isn't BigG. Printing money and taxing wealth are both viable approaches.
Freezing benefits and public-sector pay just means less money going into the economy to drive the recovery.
With millions of private sector jobs on the line freezing public sector pay and selective benefits like annual 2.5% pension increases is inevitable
How does freezing public sector pay and selective benefits save any private sector jobs? Quite the opposite - a lot of those private sector jobs rely on money being spent. You can guarantee that virtually every penny of benefits will go straight back into the economy to support those private sector jobs. (The only exception being housing benefit much of which ends up subsidising private landlords - freeze that by all means.)
The more lost jobs in the private sector the less tax and less to pay the public sector
Thanks Nurses and Doctors for your help, BTW here's a pay freeze, you're welcome
When the country is in a recession and has no money would you rather a pay freeze or job losses?
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
You need to get up with the programme. Modern Monetary Theory. [I know I'm risking a terrier like exchange with Philip but I'll resist]
Thanks Nurses and Doctors for your help, BTW here's a pay freeze, you're welcome
When the country is in a recession and has no money would you rather a pay freeze or job losses?
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
You need to get up with the programme. Modern Monetary Theory. [I know I'm risking a terrier like exchange with Philip but I'll resist]
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
Quite so. Even Starmer says tax rises now are off the agenda so the deficit needs to be tackled somehow.
It doesn't. We can live with it. The Bank of England can create the money to fill the gap. There's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future - the reverse in fact.
With all due respect, planning on the basis that "there's no risk of inflation in the foreseeable future" is remarkably complacent. If 2020 has taught us anything it's that the foreseeable future is not foreseeable at all.
I do think austerity 2.0 is inevitable with the Tories but who it falls on, well that's for them to decide
Austerity is inevitable under any party of government
No it isn't BigG. Printing money and taxing wealth are both viable approaches.
Freezing benefits and public-sector pay just means less money going into the economy to drive the recovery.
With millions of private sector jobs on the line freezing public sector pay and selective benefits like annual 2.5% pension increases is inevitable
How does freezing public sector pay and selective benefits save any private sector jobs? Quite the opposite - a lot of those private sector jobs rely on money being spent. You can guarantee that virtually every penny of benefits will go straight back into the economy to support those private sector jobs. (The only exception being housing benefit much of which ends up subsidising private landlords - freeze that by all means.)
The more lost jobs in the private sector the less tax and less to pay the public sector
The BoE prints the money and lends it to the government. It remits the interest on the debt back to the Treasury. MMT.
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"The move will effectively impose a “Parliamentary lock” on any future restrictions, amid widespread fury among senior MPs and peers that restrictions have been imposed on Britons without a vote."
Telegraph.
At last. Parliament starting to do its job wrt the executive.
Good for Brady.
Thought not.
I’ve just self isolated for the third time since January. Every time out of a sense of good citizenship, rather than because I was ordered to because it was the sensible thing to do. The first time when most here were only vaguely aware of what was happening out in Asia.
Something worth bearing in mind for those here that think anyone who thinks the government‘s response to covid is bullshit automatically means they don’t care about spreading the virus to others. Was the analogy of smokers causing passive smokers cancer? Give me strength.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/19/dem-donors-smash-record-ginsburgs-death-418355
Not the most convincing evidence that the SC is an issue which energises disproportionately the Republican electorate.
Another lockdown as Johnson is now clearly planning for the end of the month will kill any green shoots dead. And the furlough is ending.
How many massive mistakes can one PM make in a parliament?
‘You bear responsibility for the stupidity, dishonesty and incompetence of your staff. You have been head of repayments since 1992. In that time, not only is it impossible to think of a year where everything has gone right, it is exceedingly difficult to think of a time when anything has gone right.’
Which seems like madness from here.
One rule for us
Freezing benefits and public-sector pay just means less money going into the economy to drive the recovery.
But for a number of reasons it’s improbable that it will stay low.
"Inflation Rate in the United Kingdom is expected to be 0.20 percent by the end of this quarter, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations. Looking forward, we estimate Inflation Rate in the United Kingdom to stand at 1.80 in 12 months time. In the long-term, the United Kingdom Inflation Rate is projected to trend around 2.00 percent in 2021 and 1.70 percent in 2022, according to our econometric models."
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi
Harsh to turn him away.
His backbenchers are something else
Inflation last month was at a near five year low.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-inflation/uk-diner-discounts-push-inflation-to-near-five-year-low-idUKKBN2670OO
I did say all of this a while ago, fundamentally Johnson successfully united Tory and Labour voters over a very limited issue which he went on about. Outside of that, they have different outlooks on life that aren't compatible. It was called the Red Wall for a reason.
Right now they're still with the Tories as Labour hasn't sorted itself out. But Labour has got rid of Corbyn, that was step one. Let's see what the next steps are.
This is the opportunity to show if you really have "got it" or if you still think Corbyn-style money-tree spending is possible indefinitely and not just during an emergency.
Investment in infrastructure, housing, FTTP.
Johnson articulated this kind of before he became leader and then forgot about it all. I am disappointed Keir has not yet done so either.
The idea we need to freeze the pay of doctors and nurses to sort this out is for the birds. That money will come nowhere close to getting us out of this hole.
Invest first.
You cannot cut your way out of a hole. It has never worked and it will never work.
[I know I'm risking a terrier like exchange with Philip but I'll resist]
You don't cut yourself out of a hole.
It's about the world post this crash, interest rates are at a historic low, invest properly.
Renewables.
Why is nobody in the political mainstream arguing for this?