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Not really, since those two seem pretty good at winning elections.
Trump 2.04 / 2.06
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/politics/2020-us-presidential-election/usa-presidential-election-2020-betting-28009878
https://twitter.com/FromSteveHowell/status/1299723555291181057
Biden 1.97
Dem 1.91
Trump 2.06
Rep 2.08
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-08/topline-abc-ipsos-poll-aug30.pdf
I believe Labour would have done better with any other leader.
So we got what we got. This.
Plus plenty of press this weekend saying the Trump convention was outrageous and shameless and yet sadly highly effective.
Trump also has a bucket of cash and a better social media operation.
I know you're a sore lower who wants to change the rules and the voting system because you're bitter that our traditional and standard system doesn't give the results you like ... But how did they cheat?
Are there any recent polls of the type "who do you think will win?" rather than "who would you vote for?" ?
Perhaps they would show a different trend.
May got rid of Osborne when she got in and Gordon Brown wasn't exactly shy of getting rid of people he didn't like.
ETA and you can select 2% commission if you give up some bonuses on Sportsbook.
It was pure spite by the PM. Contrast it with how he defends others who break the rules - https://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/07/16/spotting-the-difference-what-really-matters-to-johnson-when-deciding-who-is-in-or-out/.
Trump has literally spent his term in the Oval Office stoking tensions, encouraging violence and responding to atrocities and bloodshed by encouraging them and saying "there's good people on both sides".
Biden is the one calling for de-escalation and an end to the violence.
Saying that the violence Trump has encouraged is awful so therefore people should vote Trump is bizarre to say the least.
Aug 23-25, 2020
B/C
GBAO*
Balter 48%
Katko 46%
Balter +2
B+
Public Opinion Strategies*
400 LV
Balter 40%
Katko 51%
Katko +11
Katko had a 5% majority in 2018 (22% in 2016), so doubt he'll lose it this election.
Safe to say this was not a classic, although interested in certain performances.
How are the Mayors meant to resolve the fact that Federal Forces are abusing their authority and escalating the violence? They can't stop that.
https://twitter.com/DavidMundellDCT/status/1300027477360812032?s=20
Projecting again.
Maybe Trump Derangement Syndrome really is a thing.
Second, is the two terrorist attacks during the campaign, Normally, to be cynical, you'd expect law-and-order to aid the Tories and bombs to remind voters that Corbyn was the terrorists' friend but in this case the blue team was left making the implausible denial that cutting 20,000 police mattered.
When people are protesting Police violence sending in militarised forces to beat people up is hardly going to deescalate the situation is it?
When the protests started many people here reasonably said that there wasn't a need to protest in the UK as we aren't America. They are. There is a need to protest there and it should be met with de-escalation and reform not escalating the violence that was STARTED by the Police in the first place. The BLM protests are a response to Police violence and not causing it and Trump is pouring fuel on the flames.
Nobody is saying they shouldn't be stopped (you ought to try reading what people post and not make up your own interpretation of it).
They should however not be stopped by a bunch of vigilantes as you were proposing on the last thread.
And it would help if the president actually made some conciliatory remarks rather than egging on the vigilantes in a tweet.
Most Americans are of course neither*. Those that want a quiet life will quietly vote for Biden I think.
* Except probably those out in Portland late at night.
As for what caused Brexit, yes it's fun to play that game and I suppose the ultimate, going as deep and as far back as possible, is that it was caused by Ted Heath taking us in in 1973. That was the sine qua non. Nothing lasts forever and so from that point on, Brexit was only a matter of time.
Are you aware of the concept of de-escalation?
Are you against people standing up to an authoritarian and abusive state? Normally that's considered entirely American but all concepts of liberty and states rights go out the window when you mean liberty for black people it seems.
Having so far refused to do that then ordinary people were left with a choice of watching their cities burning to the ground or doing something about it themselves.
Could be Belarus or Hong Kong.
What is your solution? More violence from the Police? Or attempt de-escalation?
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18685989.secret-deal-fergusons-wiped-25m-default-payments-takeover/
Violence, rioting, looting and arson against private businesses and homes is not and needs to be stopped.
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But the whole point is that they didn't. The Tories and Labour are both Unionist parties, it isn't a rude word. Labour had to be the ones to campaign because the Tories are so toxic.
The Uk media love to blow smoke up Sturgeon to highlight the obvious frailties in English politicians. The reality is the SNP are absolutely dreadful and many scottish communities have given themselves away as greedy fantasists, similar to the nice folk in Cornwall who make Billions from overpriced tourism and then thought during COVID they could tell people who owned property there they were not allowed to live there even if they had followed lockdown rules.
These places will find they have rapidly run out of friends when the phantom recession starts really feeding.
And it will all be the fault of middle class English men (yawn)
you are obviously ignorant of Scotland , just anothre arsy unionist on here who imagines they pay for Scotland. Let me burst your bubble, we don't need arsehole friends like you ripping us off and telling us we are stupid.
What is your solution? Just leave them to it?
Federal Forces have already been sent in and they have made matters worse. So what do you want? More violence or de-escalation what exactly do you want?
Federal Forces are already there. They even attacked the Mayor.
How about trying de-escalation tactics? How about a President who appeals for calm from all sides rather than stoking violence? How about an attempt to investigate and reform the concerns about violence?
Trump has used his federal powers and made matters worse. Time for someone else to have a go.
The Feds that are there encouraging violence answer to Trump not the Mayor's Office. Trump has sent the Feds in, made matters worse and is now pointing to the violence he is encouraging.
Either POTUS can't solve this violence, in which case Biden would be no worse than Trump; or the POTUS should solve it in which case Trump has failed miserably.
Either way, it reflects awfully on the man in charge. Which is Trump.
The riots have gone on for several months and local Democrat run cities have tried endless appeasement, which has failed. Are you saying these things haven't happened?
It's time to agree to disagree I think, we can't even agree on basic things that have clearly happened.
Has Trump sending in the Feds made things worse? Here I'm open to be persuaded, but of course at first there will be clashes until the rioters are arrested and dispersed.
They want more spending on high speed rail, not less.
What has Trump done in these months that has made things better?
And what has the President of the United States of America done to deescalate matters?
Which Malcolm 100% knows.
- Can Trump stop the violence?
- Why hasn't he yet?
Either he doesn't want to end it or he can't. Neither is impressive.Perhaps we should set up an award for him? The Margaret Thatcher Award for Contributions to Brexit?
He'd like that.