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One of the undoubted weaknesses of the Democrats as we go into the next phase of the White House Race is the age of Joe Biden and that he can often appear to be old. If he won he’d be 78 on Inauguration Day.
Given Pelosi has said "let's have no debates" and the focus on Kamala Harris, it gives an insight into how worried Dem strategists must be about Biden crashing and burning at some point in the next 60-odd days.
I will not be putting money on the winner of this contest. Biden SHOULD win. However....
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
USA President betting -- the Biden premium continues (a higher price for Biden than for the Democrats, reflecting the risk he will be replaced before the election), as does the reverse for Trump (and I still have no explanation for that).
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Perhaps, but why didn't that happen pre-COVID-19?
Offshoring was already happening for IT workers and some industrial production.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
What's wrong with dementia? Who wouldn't rather have a President who wants to stay home and watch Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving at all.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
That depends on what level of infrequent personal attendance or contact or travel is residual when everything settles down.
Our property market on the island is also hot at the moment with stories of some properties selling unseen.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
Meanwhile in other news... Forecasters predict this bank holiday Monday could be the coldest on record for some parts of the UK as temperatures are expected to be well below average for the time of year.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Perhaps, but why didn't that happen pre-COVID-19?
Offshoring was already happening for IT workers and some industrial production.
And it will doubtless continue to happen, but warnings of large chunks of remote office work being offshored to India are (probably) overdone. It's self-evidently not going to work for any role where an employee's physical presence in the office is deemed necessary for even a small fraction of the time, and offshoring hasn't always worked when it has been tried in the past, notably with some call centres.
Offshoring is only going to be attractive for roles where not only the cost of employing somebody overseas is lower, but also the quality of service provided is as good as that which can be offered by a UK-based employee and their physical presence is never required. You'd have thought that WFH would make it easier to identify such roles, but that we'd probably be talking about thousands or tens of thousands rather than millions.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
Equitable Life investors would disagree. Incompetence can lose you everything.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
That was not my point. Government functions as an institution, Trump has and is sabotaging that; Biden would not.
In the imperfect analogy, Trump is the equivalent of Bernie Madoff.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
II understand that as well. But fall is coming and face masks, while important, aren't magical. You get too many crowded trains, crowded offices, and we're back to square one.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Meanwhile in other news... Forecasters predict this bank holiday Monday could be the coldest on record for some parts of the UK as temperatures are expected to be well below average for the time of year.
It should never have been moved from the first Monday in August. Wilson and Heath have a lot to answer for.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Which is all perfectly fair, and a large part of the reason why the end state of the WFH revolution probably does not entail nearly all office workers being at home the whole time and tumbleweeds rolling through the Square Mile. However, by the same token, it doesn't do to underplay the benefits either. Commuting is a time-wasting, unpleasant and ruinously expensive chore, the detestation of which is far from confined to greying introverts who inhabit mansions.
Some businesses are going to use WFH as an excuse to jettison expensive office space altogether, but in most cases what we're most likely going to end up with is a part office-based, part home-working hybrid model with a great deal more flexibility built in. That should be to the overwhelming net benefit of employees.
Meanwhile in other news... Forecasters predict this bank holiday Monday could be the coldest on record for some parts of the UK as temperatures are expected to be well below average for the time of year.
It should never have been moved from the first Monday in August. Wilson and Heath have a lot to answer for.
I'm surprised that Boris Johnson didn't move it back. He seems to have adopted a "copy Scotland" policy for just about everything else.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
II understand that as well. But fall is coming and face masks, while important, aren't magical. You get too many crowded trains, crowded offices, and we're back to square one.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Also it avoids feeding the covid uplift which is on its way forcing people back into offices could well be yet another serious mistake by HMG in the fight against the disease.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
Equitable Life investors would disagree. Incompetence can lose you everything.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
It would be nice to think so (and that business activity e.g. in the hospitality sector will be displaced out to the places where people live from the city centres, rather than simply disappearing as people spend all that extra time sat at home in front of Netflix.) But time will tell.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
That was not my point. Government functions as an institution, Trump has and is sabotaging that; Biden would not.
In the imperfect analogy, Trump is the equivalent of Bernie Madoff.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
II understand that as well. But fall is coming and face masks, while important, aren't magical. You get too many crowded trains, crowded offices, and we're back to square one.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Also it avoids feeding the covid uplift which is on its way forcing people back into offices could well be yet another serious mistake by HMG in the fight against the disease.
Fortunately, as was discussed at some length yesterday, Government has no ability to force people to go back to offices. So long as WFH remains mutually convenient for employers and employees, there is absolutely no reason for it to end.
I think it may have been the BBC just yesterday that released a survey of 50 leading UK employers with large cohorts of office based staff, none of which expressed an intention to get everyone back to the office. I seem to recall that nearly half of those had no plans to call any workers back at all.
This Government is barely capable of putting one foot in front of another without tripping over its own legs. It certainly can't reverse the flow of time and put us all back to the start of the year. That is, of course, impossible.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
Church halls are closed down and community centres are out of action. Insurance for social clubs may exclude claims related to COVID 19. Clubs and societies that have been running for decades are shut. This is not a good time to be an officer of a community group, when you cannot even hold a face to face meeting of your organisation's executive committee. Some local councils are making it more difficult for groups by keeping community centres and libraries closed. Also, local organisations have little economic clout, unlike restaurants say. There is no one in the government to speak for them.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
It would be nice to think so (and that business activity e.g. in the hospitality sector will be displaced out to the places where people live from the city centres, rather than simply disappearing as people spend all that extra time sat at home in front of Netflix.) But time will tell.
It will indeed, but it will take time! Change is rarely immediate.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
II understand that as well. But fall is coming and face masks, while important, aren't magical. You get too many crowded trains, crowded offices, and we're back to square one.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Also it avoids feeding the covid uplift which is on its way forcing people back into offices could well be yet another serious mistake by HMG in the fight against the disease.
Fortunately, as was discussed at some length yesterday, Government has no ability to force people to go back to offices. So long as WFH remains mutually convenient for employers and employees, there is absolutely no reason for it to end.
I think it may have been the BBC just yesterday that released a survey of 50 leading UK employers with large cohorts of office based staff, none of which expressed an intention to get everyone back to the office. I seem to recall that nearly half of those had no plans to call any workers back at all.
This Government is barely capable of putting one foot in front of another without tripping over its own legs. It certainly can't reverse the flow of time and put us all back to the start of the year. That is, of course, impossible.
Government has a few strings to its bow if it wants people to work in offices. Subsidise commutes, reduce business rates on offices, impose them on wfh homes...
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
All this hand-wringing to save the central London property market. Which is going to rebound naturally anyway and doesn't need saving anyway.
More to do with jobs and the tax base than whether foreign squillionaires pay small fortunes for Mayfair boltholes. No commuters means lost support jobs and a smaller tax base to pay for more benefit claimants and subsidies for empty trains.
II understand that as well. But fall is coming and face masks, while important, aren't magical. You get too many crowded trains, crowded offices, and we're back to square one.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Also it avoids feeding the covid uplift which is on its way forcing people back into offices could well be yet another serious mistake by HMG in the fight against the disease.
Fortunately, as was discussed at some length yesterday, Government has no ability to force people to go back to offices. So long as WFH remains mutually convenient for employers and employees, there is absolutely no reason for it to end.
I think it may have been the BBC just yesterday that released a survey of 50 leading UK employers with large cohorts of office based staff, none of which expressed an intention to get everyone back to the office. I seem to recall that nearly half of those had no plans to call any workers back at all.
This Government is barely capable of putting one foot in front of another without tripping over its own legs. It certainly can't reverse the flow of time and put us all back to the start of the year. That is, of course, impossible.
Government has a few strings to its bow if it wants people to work in offices. Subsidise commutes, reduce business rates on offices, impose them on wfh homes...
Yes, there will have to be all sorts of consequences which fall from a large-scale move to working from home for office workers. We have to remember of course that it's very difficult, ATM at least, to work remotely on a widget production line. It's perhaps interesting that there's an advert at the moment with what appears to be a call centre worker working from home. On the other side, younger son, has reached a stage in negotiations over a 'significant' contract where he really feels he ought to be talking around issues with his customer, in a face-to-face environment, and he can't.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
They need to embrace it rather than accept it.
There’s a huge opportunity here to reverse the decline in the average High Street, as people move to wanting services close to where they live.
The other point about WFH is it is the most socially regressive development since WW1. An office is a level playing field; the entry requirements are a Primark suit and a season ticket loan. The entry requirement for wfh is a h. Tarquin gets the white collar job every bloody time because mummy and daddy tarquin can afford to set him up in a 1 bed flat of his own, with a workstation.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Perhaps, but why didn't that happen pre-COVID-19?
All change needs a catalyst.
The difference now is that employees, mistakenly, believe that home-working is in their own interest.
They're both tying themselves in knots, trying to refight 2016. You can't run on Keep America Great while saying the other side has spent the last 4 years bollocksing it up, and you definitely can't run on Make America Great Again Again, that's just getting ridiculous.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Indeed, there was a chap who told anyone who bet on No winning in September 2014 were clueless wonders who were in a for a shock.
Some businesses are going to use WFH as an excuse to jettison expensive office space altogether, but in most cases what we're most likely going to end up with is a part office-based, part home-working hybrid model with a great deal more flexibility built in. That should be to the overwhelming net benefit of employees.
The thing about a hybrid model is it only saves the employer a pile of cash if they can have a physically smaller office space. That means either your hybrid is "half the staff are 100% wfh and the other half always in the office", or you're in the world of hot-desking, which I think is generally rather disliked. Everybody's desk/chair/computer must be interchangeable. For me at least (desk usually a profusion of random papers and notes, computer a desktop with big monitors) hotdesking seems wildly impractical.
How much of a veiled threat did the return to work call contain? All this "Your employer might not want you if you WfH" business. Is that simply a "employers have some discretion who they let go, so you never know" type threat or is it a "you know we've a commitment to maintaining employment standards but, you know, extraordinary times, extraordinary measures" type threat.
Given the idea mooted a couple of weeks ago that all over 50s should shield until proven fit, a bit of rolling back age discrimination laws might also be helpful to HMGs cause here? Imagine.
Just leave it Boris. In time, if it is advantageous, the offices will repopulate, maybe not in the exact same way, but they will. Just like people eventually repopulate the fertile soil at the base after a volcano has gone off.
A re-organisation of city centre sectors that have outlived their purpose? Come on, you're Tories - just substitute the word mines into the above and ask what you would do then? If things haven't changed, those sectors will come back and perhaps some further help is in order, if they have - well, you are adopting the look of Corbyn talking about automation.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
That depends on what level of infrequent personal attendance or contact or travel is residual when everything settles down.
Our property market on the island is also hot at the moment with stories of some properties selling unseen.
Doesn’t surprise me. One of my in-laws is a car dealer and says that folk (pre-Covid) would buy cars totally unseen every week, clearly trusting the dealer’s description and disclosure.
In fact, now I come to think of it, we bought our last holiday apartment unseen, in that it hadn’t been built yet. We knew where the piece of ground was approximately, and saw the map and description, but it was really only the name of the well-respected architect that was the persuasive selling point. Turned out to be a terrific investment (another feather in the cap).
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
What's wrong with dementia? Who wouldn't rather have a President who wants to stay home and watch Real Housewives of Atlanta.
I believe that to be a safer option than a President who one day wakes up and decides he might like to try out his nuclear weapons. Why? Because he can and he hasn't tried them yet.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
She makes for a balanced ticket, so I think as along as old Joe sticks to his script and Trump sticks to his I agree with MarqueeMark's sentiment. Biden's age means that even if he does win, his second term is questionable....
His first term is questionable. If he does get elected President, I think there is a very material chance that he will be replaced by his Veep as acting President during his term. Perhaps very early in his term.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Actually, were he chairman of a pension company, probably yes. The point is the belief in institutions, which simply doesn’t exist under Trump. I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Yes, that's probably true. Incompetence loses you a lot less than manovelence.
The problem with Boris Johnson’s New UKIP Party is that it is both incompetent and malevolent.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
I've worked as both a barista and a sandwich maker, and I'm currently unemployed, so I guess everybody should listen to me.
Impressively, astute journalists managed to diagnose Abe's health problems two weeks ago by timing how long it took him to walk past them and plotting it on a graph.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
I will be surprised if Harris is not President by 2023. The Democrats choice this time around is truly bizarre. A man who was not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any stage who is clearly fading. What on earth were they thinking? This is one of the most demanding jobs in the world, it ages and exhausts much younger and fitter men. I just don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Biden is capable of fulfilling such a role.
If I was an American I would vote for Biden because Trump is malevolent and malignant, apparently indifferent to the damage he has done to US institutions and institutional structures but I would do so with a heavy heart and very much reliant upon the fact that Harris seems competent and capable if not particularly sociable. An enhanced role for her has to be a part of the deal from the beginning leading to her taking over completely mid term.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
I've worked as both a barista and a sandwich maker, and I'm currently unemployed, so I guess everybody should listen to me.
I'm sure people do listen but you're a tiny minority in terms of occupation and circumstance.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
I'm sorry, and don't take this personally, but the people claiming they are going to enjoy "the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in" come across as arseholes.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Perhaps, but why didn't that happen pre-COVID-19?
Offshoring was already happening for IT workers and some industrial production.
And it will doubtless continue to happen, but warnings of large chunks of remote office work being offshored to India are (probably) overdone. It's self-evidently not going to work for any role where an employee's physical presence in the office is deemed necessary for even a small fraction of the time, and offshoring hasn't always worked when it has been tried in the past, notably with some call centres.
Offshoring is only going to be attractive for roles where not only the cost of employing somebody overseas is lower, but also the quality of service provided is as good as that which can be offered by a UK-based employee and their physical presence is never required. You'd have thought that WFH would make it easier to identify such roles, but that we'd probably be talking about thousands or tens of thousands rather than millions.
Offshoring to offices in places like India and Philippines already happens at scale. WFH allows businesses to search wider for their staff at the individual level who are as likely to be in places 50 miles away as 5000.
The fundamental job requirement for any office working is that the candidate lives within commuting distance of the office. This requirement trumps whether the candidate is any good at the job.
Staff already in place have established their credentials so should be safe. When they look for their next job both they and prospective employers will be casting their nets wider. The net effect will be that talented people in awkward places will see their prospects improve while mediocre people in employment hotspots will be in a weaker position. Wages in those hotspots will also reduce.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
A lot of it manifests as fear, leading to desired separation.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
Welcome to my life!
36 hour week (theoretically); over eight weeks paid leave and up to 13 weeks unpaid leave available if I choose; an 18 minute commute (maybe 25 minutes if I travel at rush-hour, which is maybe 10 times a year); often home by 2 o’clock in the afternoon; cycling distance to at least five great bathing spots; free-time coming out my ears.
Although forced to work in a big office building (home working is impossible with my job), I spend a small proportion of my life in the world of work.
Why anyone chooses the London rat race has always been a mystery to me. Yes, London can be a fantastic place, but only if you have the time, money and energy to fully appreciate it.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
I'm sorry, and don't take this personally, but the people claiming they are going to enjoy "the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in" come across as arseholes.
I neither take it personally or care tbh. The BBC is there to report the news in an unbiased way (haha) with regard to Trump that simply doesn't happen.
How much of a veiled threat did the return to work call contain? All this "Your employer might not want you if you WfH" business. Is that simply a "employers have some discretion who they let go, so you never know" type threat or is it a "you know we've a commitment to maintaining employment standards but, you know, extraordinary times, extraordinary measures" type threat.
Given the idea mooted a couple of weeks ago that all over 50s should shield until proven fit, a bit of rolling back age discrimination laws might also be helpful to HMGs cause here? Imagine.
Just leave it Boris. In time, if it is advantageous, the offices will repopulate, maybe not in the exact same way, but they will. Just like people eventually repopulate the fertile soil at the base after a volcano has gone off.
A re-organisation of city centre sectors that have outlived their purpose? Come on, you're Tories - just substitute the word mines into the above and ask what you would do then? ....
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
I'm sorry, and don't take this personally, but the people claiming they are going to enjoy "the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in" come across as arseholes.
I neither take it personally or care tbh. The BBC is there to report the news in an unbiased way (haha) with regard to Trump that simply doesn't happen.
The BBC has never been afraid to take bit of a view on foreign leaders. It isn't afraid to be critical of Bolsonaro, Orban or Erdogan either. I am old enough to remember the reporting on Soviet leaders back in the day, which I am sure the stalinists complained was biased.
Meanwhile in other news... Forecasters predict this bank holiday Monday could be the coldest on record for some parts of the UK as temperatures are expected to be well below average for the time of year.
"On record" not as impressive as people might assume given that the Bank Holiday was moved to the colder end of August only about 50 years ago, and only existed at all since 1871.
In terms of records we're still currently on track to set a new record for warmest year in the Central England Temperature, which runs from 1659.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
On the contrary, BBC reporting is usually very generous to the Republicans. And as far as Trump's chances go, tend to be long the lines of 'it's a close race, don't write him off'.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
A lot of it manifests as fear, leading to desired separation.
Indeed, the great Evangelical political awakening was not due to Roe vs Wade (the Southern Baptist Council welcomed the decision) but due to the federal government stripping their Whites only colleges of charity status (started by Nixon ironically enough).
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
I've only been once, to NY so I can't comment, but you make my point about the mainstream media here as opposed to tens of millions of Americans.
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
I'm sorry, and don't take this personally, but the people claiming they are going to enjoy "the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in" come across as arseholes.
I neither take it personally or care tbh. The BBC is there to report the news in an unbiased way (haha) with regard to Trump that simply doesn't happen.
The BBC has never been afraid to take bit of a view on foreign leaders. It isn't afraid to be critical of Bolsonaro, Orban or Erdogan either. I am old enough to remember the reporting on Soviet leaders back in the day, which I am sure the stalinists complained was biased.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
I’m both in that before I go to work I make a flask of coffee and a sandwich to take with me, which is why Pret stand to gain nothing from any return to the office by me.
I wonder whether one effect of office workers being able and willing to work from home will be an upturn in clubs and societies and life in general in commuter towns. Until lockdown people in London officeswere finishing work at around 5 o'clock, spending 90-120 minutes getting home and being able, if unwilling, to be 'about' until 8 or so.. Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
Welcome to my life!
36 hour week (theoretically); over eight weeks paid leave and up to 13 weeks unpaid leave available if I choose; an 18 minute commute (maybe 25 minutes if I travel at rush-hour, which is maybe 10 times a year); often home by 2 o’clock in the afternoon; cycling distance to at least five great bathing spots; free-time coming out my ears.
Although forced to work in a big office building (home working is impossible with my job), I spend a small proportion of my life in the world of work.
Why anyone chooses the London rat race has always been a mystery to me. Yes, London can be a fantastic place, but only if you have the time, money and energy to fully appreciate it.
What does appear to be emerging is that a lot of people who extol the virtues of London living do so because they know they are stuck there and are putting a brave face on it. Now that - it would seem - other choices are available, a lot of them are moving away, or at least thinking of doing so.
How much of a veiled threat did the return to work call contain? All this "Your employer might not want you if you WfH" business. Is that simply a "employers have some discretion who they let go, so you never know" type threat or is it a "you know we've a commitment to maintaining employment standards but, you know, extraordinary times, extraordinary measures" type threat.
Given the idea mooted a couple of weeks ago that all over 50s should shield until proven fit, a bit of rolling back age discrimination laws might also be helpful to HMGs cause here? Imagine.
Just leave it Boris. In time, if it is advantageous, the offices will repopulate, maybe not in the exact same way, but they will. Just like people eventually repopulate the fertile soil at the base after a volcano has gone off.
A re-organisation of city centre sectors that have outlived their purpose? Come on, you're Tories - just substitute the word mines into the above and ask what you would do then? If things haven't changed, those sectors will come back and perhaps some further help is in order, if they have - well, you are adopting the look of Corbyn talking about automation.
I think this and the implied threat miss the dynamics of WFH. WFH will be embedded in a business if management value being able to recruit better and cheaper over the desire to keep everyone under their watchful gaze. It won't be the same answer for all employers and all employees. We are not seeing the instant death of all offices. But as employers have got used to remote management, Covid has instigated a significant shift.
I will be surprised if Harris is not President by 2023. The Democrats choice this time around is truly bizarre. A man who was not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any stage who is clearly fading. What on earth were they thinking? This is one of the most demanding jobs in the world, it ages and exhausts much younger and fitter men. I just don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Biden is capable of fulfilling such a role.
If I was an American I would vote for Biden because Trump is malevolent and malignant, apparently indifferent to the damage he has done to US institutions and institutional structures but I would do so with a heavy heart and very much reliant upon the fact that Harris seems competent and capable if not particularly sociable. An enhanced role for her has to be a part of the deal from the beginning leading to her taking over completely mid term.
Agreed, which is why I think his VP pick sealed the deal for Biden.
In old money Biden is 10/11 with Trump 11/10, I'm genuinely amazed. I really thought a year ago the Democrats would have walked in with any candidate.
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
It isn't a massive secret. A lot of American are incredibly racist in a way you simply don't see here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
A lot of it manifests as fear, leading to desired separation.
Indeed, the great Evangelical political awakening was not due to Roe vs Wade (the Southern Baptist Council welcomed the decision) but due to the federal government stripping their Whites only colleges of charity status (started by Nixon ironically enough).
I've told the story here before of how I walked to the dog park in Buffalo through a perfectly decent, indeed friendly, 'black neighbourhood' and was then taken aside by successive white dog owners warning me that I had put my life at risk by arriving from that direction. I also remember a discussion with my Kentucky friend about people from the other side of her town and how they should stay in their neighbourhood and not come into her part of town, when I was a little slow in realising what she was talking about. And Americans visiting Europe ask lots of questions about where it is and isnt safe to walk in places where no European would even give this a thought. The first thing a white American does in a strange city appears to be finding out where the 'black neighbourhood' is so that they dont go there.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
WFH not for me, all those sick folk hanging around in my front yard...
I came across this this morning. Oxford vaccine out November 3rd if phase 3 trials supportive. Only €3 a dose too.
Will Black Lives Matter end up helping Donald Trump?
Amid the radicalism of BLM – with its absurd demand to “defund” the police - Mr Trump’s strong message on law and order may win wider appeal
Right now, Joe Biden is ahead in the polls, but not by a landslide – and, as in 2016, voters could be hiding their true intentions, particularly given the sensitivity of the issues under discussion.
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
When (not if) most workplaces are adapted for home-working, the main problem for employees is that it doesn’t really matter for owners and managers if personnel are at home in London, Glasgow, Frankfurt, Naples, Zurich, Nairobi, Mumbai, Jakarta, Toronto or Santiago.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
The problems entailed by the move to wfh are routinely not just understated but entirely ignored on this site. There is a huge skew on the site to people with nice houses with room to work in (Are there more bedrooms than residents? is a good test), and who are naturally ungregarious to the point that their idea of/substitute for social interaction is wibbling on an Internet politics site, and who are at a late enough stage in their careers that hustling for self-promotion (a notably face to face activity) is no longer a necessity. A hostile government is another spoke in the wheel of the idea, and the point the government makes that wfhers are vulnerable to sacking may be nasty but it is also correct.
Good post and good points. PBers are generally speaking hopelessy disconnected from ordinary voters and how normal people live and think. A lot of folk around here even wear that as a badge of pride (Charles springs to mind).
Ain't that true, I'm quite new here and anticipated a political betting site with impartial analysis. Its actually 90% white collar liberals with little interest in or understanding of betting.
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
WFH not for me, all those sick folk hanging around in my front yard...
I came across this this morning. Oxford vaccine out November 3rd if phase 3 trials supportive. Only €3 a dose too.
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I will not be putting money on the winner of this contest. Biden SHOULD win. However....
Boris Johnson will launch a major drive to get Britain back to the office as ministers warn working from home will make people more “vulnerable” to being sacked.
A publicity campaign to begin next week will extol the virtues of returning to the workplace, making the “emotional case” for mixing with colleagues and highlighting the benefits to mental health.
We've been told that those informal chats whilst making tea/coffee are very much banned when the office reopens.
I get that the government can see serious trouble coming, but they need to accept it rather than fight it.
The guy has dementia. Ask yourself this: would you trust him with your pension? If the answer to that is no...then scale up to the nuclear codes. I just think that is the ultimate answer Americans may well give in November. Hell, they don't want Trump. But the Dems have given them a truly unpalatable choice.
For the Dems to lose the election in 2016 was unforgivable. To lose it in 2020 would be unfathomable.
Many people have romantic ideas of moving to nice places like Devon, the Cotswolds, the Hebrides or rural France, and working from home there. While this is certainly going to happen in the short term (the Scottish rural property market is red-hot), in the long-term most are gonna be screwed by more productive foreign workers.
Biden 1.91
Dem 1.86
Trump 2.12
Rep 2.14
You must be confusing me with someone else.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53524486
I certainly would trust a pension company with any of that family of grifters, liars and sociopaths on the board.
Our property market on the island is also hot at the moment with stories of some properties selling unseen.
Offshoring is only going to be attractive for roles where not only the cost of employing somebody overseas is lower, but also the quality of service provided is as good as that which can be offered by a UK-based employee and their physical presence is never required. You'd have thought that WFH would make it easier to identify such roles, but that we'd probably be talking about thousands or tens of thousands rather than millions.
Now they're still finishing work at 5, but only spending 5 minutes in getting back to the bosom of their families! And by 7 or so they're ready to be active outside the house.
Government functions as an institution, Trump has and is sabotaging that; Biden would not.
In the imperfect analogy, Trump is the equivalent of Bernie Madoff.
Letting folks naturally drift back at a slower rate seems better economically to me.
Some businesses are going to use WFH as an excuse to jettison expensive office space altogether, but in most cases what we're most likely going to end up with is a part office-based, part home-working hybrid model with a great deal more flexibility built in. That should be to the overwhelming net benefit of employees.
"can"
Not
"will"
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1299222952190369792?s=20
I think it may have been the BBC just yesterday that released a survey of 50 leading UK employers with large cohorts of office based staff, none of which expressed an intention to get everyone back to the office. I seem to recall that nearly half of those had no plans to call any workers back at all.
This Government is barely capable of putting one foot in front of another without tripping over its own legs. It certainly can't reverse the flow of time and put us all back to the start of the year. That is, of course, impossible.
It's an interesting one. We're happy for our incumbent PM to use Downing Street for political speeches. Perhaps we should ban them.
It's perhaps interesting that there's an advert at the moment with what appears to be a call centre worker working from home.
On the other side, younger son, has reached a stage in negotiations over a 'significant' contract where he really feels he ought to be talking around issues with his customer, in a face-to-face environment, and he can't.
https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1299174942882365441?s=19
There’s a huge opportunity here to reverse the decline in the average High Street, as people move to wanting services close to where they live.
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1299172865896525824
That might still be the case but despite every media outlet painting Trump in such a bad light (over here) the Americans clearly see it differently. I don't follow the US enough to make a judgement, my point is the view where it counts is nowhere near as negative as the view from here.
And who can forget this rather odd speech on 21 June 2016 (i.e. very much in purdah):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU9Wg3AUKXw
Now they have seen the reaction
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1299234405945401344
Government by press release. Twats.
The difference now is that employees, mistakenly, believe that home-working is in their own interest.
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1299180668400869377?s=20
Given the idea mooted a couple of weeks ago that all over 50s should shield until proven fit, a bit of rolling back age discrimination laws might also be helpful to HMGs cause here? Imagine.
Just leave it Boris. In time, if it is advantageous, the offices will repopulate, maybe not in the exact same way, but they will. Just like people eventually repopulate the fertile soil at the base after a volcano has gone off.
A re-organisation of city centre sectors that have outlived their purpose? Come on, you're Tories - just substitute the word mines into the above and ask what you would do then? If things haven't changed, those sectors will come back and perhaps some further help is in order, if they have - well, you are adopting the look of Corbyn talking about automation.
In fact, now I come to think of it, we bought our last holiday apartment unseen, in that it hadn’t been built yet. We knew where the piece of ground was approximately, and saw the map and description, but it was really only the name of the well-respected architect that was the persuasive selling point. Turned out to be a terrific investment (another feather in the cap).
That's not a problem, I like white collar liberals, but they're completely unaware of what goes on in the lives of ordinary working people. Pret, among others, are shedding 1000s of jobs, I don't suppose there's too many baristas or sandwich makers on here.
Yeah, yeah clutch your pearls at my terribleness but the research is abundantly clear.
A huge section of poor rural white Americans will repeatedly choose options that are economically bad for them as long as it ensures equally bad if not worse outcomes for Black people.
White supremicism is a mainstream political viewpoint in America.
Betting on American politics without understanding how deeply ingrained their racism is is a sure fire way to the poor house.
https://twitter.com/GearoidReidy/status/1294138471703961603
With absolutely no financial gain on my part, the BBC meltdown should Trump get back in will be sumptuous. And further confirmation of how detached they are.
If I was an American I would vote for Biden because Trump is malevolent and malignant, apparently indifferent to the damage he has done to US institutions and institutional structures but I would do so with a heavy heart and very much reliant upon the fact that Harris seems competent and capable if not particularly sociable. An enhanced role for her has to be a part of the deal from the beginning leading to her taking over completely mid term.
The fundamental job requirement for any office working is that the candidate lives within commuting distance of the office. This requirement trumps whether the candidate is any good at the job.
Staff already in place have established their credentials so should be safe. When they look for their next job both they and prospective employers will be casting their nets wider. The net effect will be that talented people in awkward places will see their prospects improve while mediocre people in employment hotspots will be in a weaker position. Wages in those hotspots will also reduce.
36 hour week (theoretically); over eight weeks paid leave and up to 13 weeks unpaid leave available if I choose; an 18 minute commute (maybe 25 minutes if I travel at rush-hour, which is maybe 10 times a year); often home by 2 o’clock in the afternoon; cycling distance to at least five great bathing spots; free-time coming out my ears.
Although forced to work in a big office building (home working is impossible with my job), I spend a small proportion of my life in the world of work.
Why anyone chooses the London rat race has always been a mystery to me. Yes, London can be a fantastic place, but only if you have the time, money and energy to fully appreciate it.
In terms of records we're still currently on track to set a new record for warmest year in the Central England Temperature, which runs from 1659.
Including this piece of quite astonishing hypocrisy:
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1299094372718465025
I came across this this morning. Oxford vaccine out November 3rd if phase 3 trials supportive. Only €3 a dose too.
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/2020/08/23/5f427b6e46163ff7878b45d6.html
Amid the radicalism of BLM – with its absurd demand to “defund” the police - Mr Trump’s strong message on law and order may win wider appeal
Right now, Joe Biden is ahead in the polls, but not by a landslide – and, as in 2016, voters could be hiding their true intentions, particularly given the sensitivity of the issues under discussion.
(Telegraph leader)