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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,629

    https://twitter.com/JessieJoeJacobs/status/1293978436919267329

    Keir visits Darlington.

    Target seat 40, majority 3294. 3.79% swing required.

    Yet another in the top 50.

    Keir had a parmo? Respect!
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,816

    Can anyone explain the logic of decisions that now come out of this government?

    Boris governs like Eric Morecambe plays piano.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,009
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    Err. Perhaps they ought to have given it a modicum of thought before going?
    Boris Saves Summer!!! Get your holiday bargains!!!
    What will happen if I need to quarantine?
    This was always a distinct possibility.
    Wait, so it’s their fault for going to France even though it was perfectly legal to do so?
    No. But it ought to have been part of their risk assessment. "Wondering what they are supposed to do now" should have been part of the thinking before leaving.
    It's perfectly legal to jump out of a plane. However I have little sympathy for those who don't use a parachute.
    That’s an absurdly draconian outlook. Either it’s legal to visit France or it isn’t.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,257

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    I mean it worked so well for the EU and all their ERDF and ESF funded schemes and infrastructures.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,257
    Pro_Rata said:

    Can anyone explain the logic of decisions that now come out of this government?

    Boris governs like Eric Morecambe plays piano.
    Does he even know yet that these decisions have been taken this evening?
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    @Ave_it such as those well-known ‘hard lefties’ @MaxPB , @Casino_Royale and @Richard_Tyndall ?

    I would be lying if I didn't admit there is a little bit of me that wold like a Trump win for all the wailing it would produce from all the talking heads in the media and politics around the world - not just on the Left but generally. In theory I love the idea of that sort of shock.

    But in the end I have to recognise that it is a childish attitude and for all it might seem a bit of fun I suspect that in a very short time I would probably be wailing as well just as loudly.

    So I would much rather that we did not have the Golden Haired one as President again come next January.

    Not that I am looking forward to a Biden victory at all. He is a singularly uninspiring establishment figure.

    The colonial types are poorly served by their Presidential choices.
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    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    Err. Perhaps they ought to have given it a modicum of thought before going?
    Boris Saves Summer!!! Get your holiday bargains!!!
    What will happen if I need to quarantine?
    This was always a distinct possibility.
    Wait, so it’s their fault for going to France even though it was perfectly legal to do so?
    No. But it ought to have been part of their risk assessment. "Wondering what they are supposed to do now" should have been part of the thinking before leaving.
    It's perfectly legal to jump out of a plane. However I have little sympathy for those who don't use a parachute.
    That’s an absurdly draconian outlook. Either it’s legal to visit France or it isn’t.
    It is legal to visit France but if you do you quarantine for 14 days on your return
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    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    A friend of mine in France asked if I wanted to go and visit last weekend. One reason I didn’t was I thought there was a high chance of this.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    To be fair it worked wonders with all the "funded by the EU" signs.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Nigelb said:

    Doesn’t sound like the placebo...

    Fever is not an entirely unusual response to vaccines - after all they are intended to provoke an immune response - but the RNA vaccines do appear to have a higher incidence of that side effect than most.

    Depends what the placebo is. In the Oxford trial they used a meningitis vaccine specifically so that the participants would be likely to have a similar level of short-term side-effects irrespective of whether they got the placebo or the new vaccine.
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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    I mean it worked so well for the EU and all their ERDF and ESF funded schemes and infrastructures.
    Yep - what were all those Welsh towns and villages that couldn’t move for an EU flag on every other building!
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,009
    Will be welcomed by my cousin, who is a beautician. Her livelihood has been massively compromised by the ban.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,629
    Are you in need of a threading?
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,009

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    A friend of mine in France asked if I wanted to go and visit last weekend. One reason I didn’t was I thought there was a high chance of this.
    One reason?

    What were the other reasons?
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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    Pro_Rata said:

    Can anyone explain the logic of decisions that now come out of this government?

    Boris governs like Eric Morecambe plays piano.
    Does he even know yet that these decisions have been taken this evening?
    Who knows. Earlier today the Government were briefing heavily that decisions on France were being delayed on Johnson’s instructions with decisions to be announced tomorrow.
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    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    Maybe the principle is borrowed from the EU, which stamps its logo on EU-funded projects. There is a certain amount of irony there, not least in light of Brexit suggesting the tactic was not quite 100 per cent successful. That said, I'm not sure nationalists can complain too loudly about flags.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,257
    alex_ said:

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    I mean it worked so well for the EU and all their ERDF and ESF funded schemes and infrastructures.
    Yep - what were all those Welsh towns and villages that couldn’t move for an EU flag on every other building!
    There was that classic TV news clip during the referendum where some youngsters were voxed outside their college or training centre which had a massive great 'funded by EU' sign and they said Europe had "never done anything for them around here".
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,816

    Pro_Rata said:

    So, I've not got hard cash on the line or an array of spreadsheets, but looked over the numerology for WH20 the other day and my simplistic take is thus.

    So, on Electoral college Biden needs to swing 38 votes from 2016. If we consider MO & NV in the mix as Dem ECV defences, he needs to take 54 swing state votes.

    Swing states are not forming a continuum in the polling, so there are two blocks, those where Biden has a 5-8 point lead, and then some genuine toss ups.

    Biden leaning: NE2 (1, +8), MI (16, +7), WI (10, +7), PA (20, +6), FL (29, +5), MO (10, +5), AZ (11, +4), NV (6, +4) (ECVs, Biden lead)

    So, 103 available from the Biden leaning states, and the ordered polling averages suggest he currently has a 5-6% cushion over Trump on the state which would deliver his ECV majority, with a few different ways of cutting out his majority from these.

    Toss ups: NC (15, +1), OH (18, +1), ME 2 (1, -), GA (16, -1), TX (36, -1), IA (6, -1)

    I think the, generally cautious, working assumption on PB is that Trump will sweep these, even where Biden edges the polling now. As such, these are best seen as wildcards, states where Bidens surprise can sooth any troubles and ease any troubles and sooth the way on the main scorecard, or else can waymark a coming landslide.

    If Biden loses all: ECV= 216-322, if wins all Biden leaning: 319-219, If wins all: 411-127.

    Great. Thanks. useful summary.

    Not sure PB assumption is Biden sweeping TX. Maybe that's not what you meant?
    No, I did say Trump sweeping these as the PB base assumption.
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    Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 8,844
    glw said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think Biden will be an appalling President. But Trump is a threat to the US Constitution and to democracy.

    I'd rather have someone I disagreed with on every substantive issue who respected the ballot box than a leader who I agreed with on everything who did not.

    Democracies work because you can throw out people who perform poorly.

    I think Biden would be alright, but Trump is on the cusp of causing permanent damage to the political system in the US*, and the US reputation abroad. I'd like to see Trump jailed but will settle for him being booted out of the Whitehouse.

    * Which is now clearly in a shocking mess with safeguards that are mostly effective only in theory rather than in practice.
    Maybe not a popular thought but one to ponder. I personally regard the politicial system in the us as highly damaged already. By both sides so not picking a target. Maybe causing such permanent damage that people call for a reset and revamp is not such a bad thing. Only so many times you can repair a shed before its so ramshackle its best pulling it down and starting again
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    Err. Perhaps they ought to have given it a modicum of thought before going?
    Boris Saves Summer!!! Get your holiday bargains!!!
    What will happen if I need to quarantine?
    This was always a distinct possibility.
    Wait, so it’s their fault for going to France even though it was perfectly legal to do so?
    No. But it ought to have been part of their risk assessment. "Wondering what they are supposed to do now" should have been part of the thinking before leaving.
    It's perfectly legal to jump out of a plane. However I have little sympathy for those who don't use a parachute.
    That’s an absurdly draconian outlook. Either it’s legal to visit France or it isn’t.
    In what way draconian? It's legal to do lots of things. You assess the risks and take your chances.
    Whinging about quarantine being imposed is like being shocked to discover hang gliding is a bit risky.
    No one's saying they shouldn't have gone. Well I'm not.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419
    Strange day with the mask - had to wear the god damn thing for 1 minute to walk through the entrance to a outside trail at Cheddar Gorge because the selling of souvenirs is deemed so toxic that it necessitates the covering of the face but spent the evening in a pub and restaurant where the non selling of fridge magnets makes the virus non infectious according to the government.
    How much longer are we going to pretend the wearing of a mask in a shop is logical or doing anything other than making everyone look like they are in a Monty Python sketch?
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,629
    Someone I know brought forward their family holiday in France so that they would be able to complete any potential quarantine before the schools go back.

    I still think that the smarter option would have been to stay at home but at least he was ready for it.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,127

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    I mean it worked so well for the EU and all their ERDF and ESF funded schemes and infrastructures.
    It wouldn't surprise me if one of Dom's weirdo misfits had decided that it was EU branding in Scotland that swung it for the EU north of the border and they just need to reproduce this. Perhaps it was the great man himself.
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    Can anyone explain the logic of decisions that now come out of this government?

    Does the government want to move the news agenda on from exam results?

    Does the government think that moving the news agenda on makes a problem go away?
    Someone does. Can't think who that might be.
    I predicted this this morning and it will be big news tomorrow
    Two flaws with that (not in your reading of the situation, but in the thinking of whichever Bright Young Dom dreamt this up).

    1 In general, problems don't go away when you throw a dead cat on the table. They just have to share the table with a cat corpse, to go with all the other decaying remains of cats on the table already. It's smart campaigning, but foolish government. (Which is the general problem we have in the UK right now).

    2 In this particular case, the exam problem won't go away because there's another round of exam results hitting schools in 6 days time...
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    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    A friend of mine in France asked if I wanted to go and visit last weekend. One reason I didn’t was I thought there was a high chance of this.
    One reason?

    What were the other reasons?
    A combination of the weather forecast and the fact that my car’s air conditioning doesn’t work.

    Also finding a cat sitter at short notice.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    Err. Perhaps they ought to have given it a modicum of thought before going?
    Boris Saves Summer!!! Get your holiday bargains!!!
    What will happen if I need to quarantine?
    This was always a distinct possibility.
    Wait, so it’s their fault for going to France even though it was perfectly legal to do so?
    No. But it ought to have been part of their risk assessment. "Wondering what they are supposed to do now" should have been part of the thinking before leaving.
    It's perfectly legal to jump out of a plane. However I have little sympathy for those who don't use a parachute.
    That’s an absurdly draconian outlook. Either it’s legal to visit France or it isn’t.
    In what way draconian? It's legal to do lots of things. You assess the risks and take your chances.
    Whinging about quarantine being imposed is like being shocked to discover hang gliding is a bit risky.
    No one's saying they shouldn't have gone. Well I'm not.
    I can just about get the logic to quarantine from a place that has the virus to one that does not .Given the Uk has enough cases at the moment the action of ruining peoples summer holiday in France seems like a government that will do anything to appear like they can control the virus (king canute like) but of course cannot.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977
    Pagan2 said:

    glw said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think Biden will be an appalling President. But Trump is a threat to the US Constitution and to democracy.

    I'd rather have someone I disagreed with on every substantive issue who respected the ballot box than a leader who I agreed with on everything who did not.

    Democracies work because you can throw out people who perform poorly.

    I think Biden would be alright, but Trump is on the cusp of causing permanent damage to the political system in the US*, and the US reputation abroad. I'd like to see Trump jailed but will settle for him being booted out of the Whitehouse.

    * Which is now clearly in a shocking mess with safeguards that are mostly effective only in theory rather than in practice.
    Maybe not a popular thought but one to ponder. I personally regard the politicial system in the us as highly damaged already. By both sides so not picking a target. Maybe causing such permanent damage that people call for a reset and revamp is not such a bad thing. Only so many times you can repair a shed before its so ramshackle its best pulling it down and starting again
    Reverence for the Constitution.
    That it may be a little out of date is such an extraordinary, radical concept to both Left and Right in the US, that there seems little prospect in the short term.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,629

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    You'd think that they could manage some modern halls of residence.

    Night all.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    Err. Perhaps they ought to have given it a modicum of thought before going?
    Boris Saves Summer!!! Get your holiday bargains!!!
    What will happen if I need to quarantine?
    This was always a distinct possibility.
    Wait, so it’s their fault for going to France even though it was perfectly legal to do so?
    No. But it ought to have been part of their risk assessment. "Wondering what they are supposed to do now" should have been part of the thinking before leaving.
    It's perfectly legal to jump out of a plane. However I have little sympathy for those who don't use a parachute.
    That’s an absurdly draconian outlook. Either it’s legal to visit France or it isn’t.
    In what way draconian? It's legal to do lots of things. You assess the risks and take your chances.
    Whinging about quarantine being imposed is like being shocked to discover hang gliding is a bit risky.
    No one's saying they shouldn't have gone. Well I'm not.
    I can just about get the logic to quarantine from a place that has the virus to one that does not .Given the Uk has enough cases at the moment the action of ruining peoples summer holiday in France seems like a government that will do anything to appear like they can control the virus (king canute like) but of course cannot.
    Bad news on the exam front part 2.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,009
    Some very judgemental comments this evening re: French holidaymakers.
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    Someone I know brought forward their family holiday in France so that they would be able to complete any potential quarantine before the schools go back.

    I still think that the smarter option would have been to stay at home but at least he was ready for it.

    At least here they can quarantine at home. I was talking to a colleague today who lives in Oz and when he flies back he will have to quarantine under strict conditions for 14 days in a designated hotel paid for by himself.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    I did my punting in William Hill and Corals rather than the Cam!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,677
    edited August 2020
    rcs1000 said:

    I think Biden will be an appalling President. But Trump is a threat to the US Constitution and to democracy.

    I'd rather have someone I disagreed with on every substantive issue who respected the ballot box than a leader who I agreed with on everything who did not.

    Democracies work because you can throw out people who perform poorly.

    On a purely technical point, I don't understand how a Donald Trump who's just won two elections in a row, (with no more to face in the future), would be a threat to democracy. The only election ahead of him at that point would be the 2022 mid-terms.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    You are far more intelligent than I will ever be :)
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,677

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    +1
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Considering "everyone knew" it would be Kamala Harris, the Trump team seemed oddly unprepared for her nomination.

    Martin Kettle reckons it's because they can't think of anything really to throw at her.
    In California are leading on her refusal to apply the snitch laws to the law enforcement community. The widower of a women shot dead who was prevented from suing the police by her is all over the radio
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,127
    edited August 2020

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    Maybe the principle is borrowed from the EU, which stamps its logo on EU-funded projects. There is a certain amount of irony there, not least in light of Brexit suggesting the tactic was not quite 100 per cent successful. That said, I'm not sure nationalists can complain too loudly about flags.
    I guess the milder nationalists just point and laugh at the real nut jobs.

    https://twitter.com/jack_capener/status/1293225664804466692?s=20
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,009

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Indeed. Utterly ridiculous and there are now presumably hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers in France wondering WTF they are supposed to do now.
    A friend of mine in France asked if I wanted to go and visit last weekend. One reason I didn’t was I thought there was a high chance of this.
    One reason?

    What were the other reasons?
    A combination of the weather forecast and the fact that my car’s air conditioning doesn’t work.

    Also finding a cat sitter at short notice.
    I dare say the quarantine threat was subordinate to the other three concerns!
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    I hope nobody took my post as being an attack on Oxford or anywhere else, I've just re-read it and I can see how it might come across that way.

    I just am genuinely curious as I have had a different experience to many of my peers in terms of educational achievement and so on. I think as with many things, you find what works for you :)
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    You'd think that they could manage some modern halls of residence.

    Night all.
    That was the newest part of the college...
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    alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Andy_JS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think Biden will be an appalling President. But Trump is a threat to the US Constitution and to democracy.

    I'd rather have someone I disagreed with on every substantive issue who respected the ballot box than a leader who I agreed with on everything who did not.

    Democracies work because you can throw out people who perform poorly.

    On a purely technical point, I don't understand how a Donald Trump who's just won two elections in a row, (with no more to face in the future), would be a threat to democracy. The only election ahead of him at that point would be the 2022 mid-terms.
    Nothing to see here. Move on...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53772526
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    I did my punting in William Hill and Corals rather than the Cam!
    You don’t want to punt on the Cam. They use the wrong end of the punt.
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    Some very judgemental comments this evening re: French holidaymakers.

    Comments that overlook the impact of quarantine on French tourists hoping to come to Britain. They can't.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977

    Someone I know brought forward their family holiday in France so that they would be able to complete any potential quarantine before the schools go back.

    I still think that the smarter option would have been to stay at home but at least he was ready for it.

    At least here they can quarantine at home. I was talking to a colleague today who lives in Oz and when he flies back he will have to quarantine under strict conditions for 14 days in a designated hotel paid for by himself.
    Thailand. Foreigners pay for a designated hotel. Thais get free 2 weeks on retreat in a monastery to build merit.
    Foreign Buddhists aren't eligible.
    Not sure about Thai non-Buddhists.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419
    edited August 2020
    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    yes but they both had to go at least initially because if you had the opportunity and never went you could die wondering. I always think nobody gets every opportunity in life so when you do (get one)you don't want to die wondering
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    You are far more intelligent than I will ever be :)
    I just know different things: you showed on a thread a day or two ago that you know far more about Wi-fi than I do which is probably a more useful skill than my now rusty understanding of how galaxies form.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Stringent? Surely Oxford's boast is that it has the best teaching in the world, which if you think about it makes it easiest for students. Not to mention it scatters Firsts around like confetti. 95 per cent Firsts or Upper Seconds!
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683
    Charles said:

    Considering "everyone knew" it would be Kamala Harris, the Trump team seemed oddly unprepared for her nomination.

    Martin Kettle reckons it's because they can't think of anything really to throw at her.
    In California are leading on her refusal to apply the snitch laws to the law enforcement community. The widower of a women shot dead who was prevented from suing the police by her is all over the radio
    Trumpers gonna Trump, and Bernibots gonna too. I thought this was an interesting perspective:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/give-kamala-harris-break/615127/

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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,589
    edited August 2020

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    I did my punting in William Hill and Corals rather than the Cam!
    You don’t want to punt on the Cam. They use the wrong end of the punt.
    Sad Cantabrigians can NOT find better things to do with their poles than pushing boats.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,409
    edited August 2020
    Oh FFS.

    Does Boris even know what he is saying? He seems to be making pledges because he likes the way they sound, without regard to meaning.
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977
    Is that the same body that will lie in front of the Heathrow bulldozer?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683

    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    yes but they both had to go at least initially because if you had the opportunity and never went you could die wondering. I always think nobody gets every opportunity in life so when you do (get one)you don't want to die wondering
    I was offered a place at Oxford to do chemistry, but decided to do Medicine in London instead. I have never regretted not going to Oxford.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683
    He really didn't understand his own Oven Ready Deal, did he?
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419

    Are you in need of a threading?
    I am handsome enough but do appreciate a night in the theatre for instance. The loss of live performance is a great shame of this general overreaction to covid 19
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,127
    Is 'over my dead body' more or less definitive than 'dead in a ditch'?
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    EEA! :)
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    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    The medics worked harder than anyone else when I was there, to the point that they didn’t really have time for the extra curricular stuff that most of the rest of us got up to.


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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,002
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    yes but they both had to go at least initially because if you had the opportunity and never went you could die wondering. I always think nobody gets every opportunity in life so when you do (get one)you don't want to die wondering
    I was offered a place at Oxford to do chemistry, but decided to do Medicine in London instead. I have never regretted not going to Oxford.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuHYO9TM5A
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,419
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    yes but they both had to go at least initially because if you had the opportunity and never went you could die wondering. I always think nobody gets every opportunity in life so when you do (get one)you don't want to die wondering
    I was offered a place at Oxford to do chemistry, but decided to do Medicine in London instead. I have never regretted not going to Oxford.
    Well for medicine London is without equal I believe . Generally though why wouldn't a young person take such a chance if they get the opportunity.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,002

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Completely over reaction. Again.

    The trouble is this administration seems increasingly to be trying to operate a zero cases policy which will involve the total cratering of our economy and way of life.


    Watch Ivor Cummins short video casedemic to see what is really happening in Europe. The number of positive cases is irrelevant . It’s hospital admissions,ICU and deaths that are the most important thing. Like here cases may be going up in Europe but hospitals are empty and deaths are a tiny fraction of what they were.
    That's right. There's massively more testing, and therefore instead of us seeing 20% of the cases, we're seeing 75% of them. And we're also seeing them earlier. And because people are following social distancing behaviour, the viral loads people are recieving are typically lower, and therefore infections less severe.
    Yet still a 1000 deaths per day on average in the US.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
    1499 today. Highest for 3 months.
    Look at New York and New Jersey deaths. Hardly any. They are at the same stage as Western Europe.
    That doesn't make sense, as New York has mandated mask wearing in shops.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683
    rcs1000 said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Well I never went to Oxbridge either but would of thought the experience of doing so would never be a regret . You only live once so if you have the opportunity you surely have to take it
    A medical friend of mine got into Cambridge and hated it, but managed to transfer to Sheffield Uni for the Clinical years. He was much happier in Sheffield, after what he described as a toxic paranoid few years in Cambridge.

    On the other hand my brother had a great time there. It is horses for courses.
    yes but they both had to go at least initially because if you had the opportunity and never went you could die wondering. I always think nobody gets every opportunity in life so when you do (get one)you don't want to die wondering
    I was offered a place at Oxford to do chemistry, but decided to do Medicine in London instead. I have never regretted not going to Oxford.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuHYO9TM5A
    I didn't want to do Chemistry was the thing, and had applied for Medicine there. I think I must have scored very highly on the Chemistry paper of the entrance exam.

    I think I would still have gone to London if I had been offered a place. London in the Eighties was simply more fun.
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    Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,060
    edited August 2020

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Stringent? Surely Oxford's boast is that it has the best teaching in the world, which if you think about it makes it easiest for students. Not to mention it scatters Firsts around like confetti. 95 per cent Firsts or Upper Seconds!
    The tutorial system means one or two of you with a tutor, for an hour, twice a week, going through your work in detail with nowhere to hide. That is the stringent bit, and is in addition to the lectures and lab sessions.

    On grade inflation you have a point: a two-one put you in the top half of the year when I was there.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683
    Perhaps it is so they can quarantine illicit dinghy arrivals.
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    Hull! :)
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,631

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    It’s a difficult question to answer as I don’t know what would have happened if I had gone to Imperial instead. I would have had a different set of friends and probably never learned to punt, but beyond that, who knows?
    You are far more intelligent than I will ever be :)
    I just know different things: you showed on a thread a day or two ago that you know far more about Wi-fi than I do which is probably a more useful skill than my now rusty understanding of how galaxies form.
    Speaking of which, did you see this story on a novel type of supernova (which we will never witness):

    https://phys.org/news/2020-08-physicists-supernova.html
    ...He calls his theoretical explosions "black dwarf supernova" and calculates that the first one will occur in about 10 to the 1100th years...

    ...Caplan calculates that the most massive black dwarfs will explode first, followed by progressively less massive stars, until there are no more left to go off after about 10^32000 years. At that point, the universe may truly be dead and silent. "It's hard to imagine anything coming after that, black dwarf supernova might be the last interesting thing to happen in the universe. They may be the last supernova ever." By the time the first black dwarfs explode, the universe will already be unrecognizable. "Galaxies will have dispersed, black holes will have evaporated, and the expansion of the universe will have pulled all remaining objects so far apart that none will ever see any of the others explode. It won't even be physically possible for light to travel that far."...
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,677
    Looking forward to reading Lord Sumption's response to the education fiasco.
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    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    A friend of mine went to Oxford, I wonder if all these years later they think it was worth it or not.
    Without of course knowing your friend I would have said of course it was worth it 1 Not many get the opportunity or reward for hard work to study at one of the best places in the world
    We've ended up in similar places and I've probably had a much easier time education wise than he has. Not saying I didn't work as hard as him, just Oxford is a lot more stringent and tough than anything I had to experience, is my understanding.

    I hope he does feel it was worth it. I was never clever enough to go - but I don't look back on my quite poor A-Levels as having impacted my life much at all :)
    Stringent? Surely Oxford's boast is that it has the best teaching in the world, which if you think about it makes it easiest for students. Not to mention it scatters Firsts around like confetti. 95 per cent Firsts or Upper Seconds!
    The tutorial system means one or two of you with a tutor, for an hour, twice a week, going through you work in detail with nowhere to hide. That is the stringent bit, and is in addition to the lectures and lab sessions.

    On grade inflation you have a point: a two-one put you in the top half of the year when I was there.
    The other way of looking at the tutorial system is that students get far more staff contact than anywhere else, with almost individual teaching to get you over any hurdles. It might make more sense to send the dimmer students there, the ones who need the extra help!
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    Hull! :)

    Isn't Hull where they invented LCDs, so important in the last few decades? General Melchett knew!
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977
    When I told my tutor, during our once a term contact that I needed advice on an essay, he pointed out the window.
    "There is one of the world's largest collection of works on the social sciences. Your answer is there. I don't provide answers."
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,891
    edited August 2020

    That’s because there are a strictly limited number of places, so if they are full you have to wait til next year. I’ve seen it happen in normally years with mistakes made by exam boards.

    Oh, and the first floor windows on the left of that building as you look at them? My room in my first year!
    Staircase 14? Not a bad lottery result.

    Now, about that statue....
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,797
    edited August 2020

    I very much applaud the idea that where Unionism has been going wrong is not displaying enough Union flags.

    https://twitter.com/markdiffley1/status/1294015753969172480?s=20

    I mean it worked so well for the EU and all their ERDF and ESF funded schemes and infrastructures.
    It wouldn't surprise me if one of Dom's weirdo misfits had decided that it was EU branding in Scotland that swung it for the EU north of the border and they just need to reproduce this. Perhaps it was the great man himself.
    People of all stripes believe every election that things get swung by stupid posters and memes, so it's about the same level of plausibility.

    Is 'over my dead body' more or less definitive than 'dead in a ditch'?
    More. It's easier to ignore a body in a ditch, that's why they get, er, ditched there. Being forced to do something over a dead body is far more awkward at most social and professional gatherings.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,028
    Irish PM says Boris told him he was committed to getting a comprehensive trade deal with the EU, if so that means regulatory alignment and cue uproar from the likes of Francois, Redwood, Baker and Cash
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,797
    dixiedean said:

    When I told my tutor, during our once a term contact that I needed advice on an essay, he pointed out the window.
    "There is one of the world's largest collection of works on the social sciences. Your answer is there. I don't provide answers."

    Sounds like a skiver to me.
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    As proud LSU graduate, will say that ANY college that does NOT have a live tiger as mascot is NOT really trying,

    Our proud boast is, we are the dumbest students - and alumni - in the world! Except of course for the Aggies of Texas A&M, home (naturally) of the George W. Bush Presidential Library.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,797

    Some very judgemental comments this evening re: French holidaymakers.

    Well it's more specific than the general judgemental comments about the french at least.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,028

    Can anyone explain the logic of decisions that now come out of this government?

    Does the government want to move the news agenda on from exam results?

    Does the government think that moving the news agenda on makes a problem go away?
    Someone does. Can't think who that might be.
    I predicted this this morning and it will be big news tomorrow
    Two flaws with that (not in your reading of the situation, but in the thinking of whichever Bright Young Dom dreamt this up).

    1 In general, problems don't go away when you throw a dead cat on the table. They just have to share the table with a cat corpse, to go with all the other decaying remains of cats on the table already. It's smart campaigning, but foolish government. (Which is the general problem we have in the UK right now).

    2 In this particular case, the exam problem won't go away because there's another round of exam results hitting schools in 6 days time...
    Universities just did students exams online this year, so should schools, grades by algorithm are absurd
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,683
    HYUFD said:

    Irish PM says Boris told him he was committed to getting a comprehensive trade deal with the EU, if so that means regulatory alignment and cue uproar from the likes of Francois, Redwood, Baker and Cash
    Francois? Who he?
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    Regulatory alignment, abandonment of our Japanese and USA trade deals, EEA yes!
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 27,977
    kle4 said:

    dixiedean said:

    When I told my tutor, during our once a term contact that I needed advice on an essay, he pointed out the window.
    "There is one of the world's largest collection of works on the social sciences. Your answer is there. I don't provide answers."

    Sounds like a skiver to me.
    kle4 said:

    dixiedean said:

    When I told my tutor, during our once a term contact that I needed advice on an essay, he pointed out the window.
    "There is one of the world's largest collection of works on the social sciences. Your answer is there. I don't provide answers."

    Sounds like a skiver to me.
    kle4 said:

    dixiedean said:

    When I told my tutor, during our once a term contact that I needed advice on an essay, he pointed out the window.
    "There is one of the world's largest collection of works on the social sciences. Your answer is there. I don't provide answers."

    Sounds like a skiver to me.
    We, erm, had an instinctive understanding on a basic level...
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    Johnson will become Mr Johnson if he pulls that off, genius!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,028

    Regulatory alignment, abandonment of our Japanese and USA trade deals, EEA yes!

    We can still do our own trade deals and end free movement despite regulatory alignment with an EU FTA as long as we are outside the EEA and Customs Union
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Foxy said:

    Perhaps it is so they can quarantine illicit dinghy arrivals.
    People knew the risks before heading off to France.
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    HYUFD said:

    Regulatory alignment, abandonment of our Japanese and USA trade deals, EEA yes!

    We can still do our own trade deals and end free movement despite regulatory alignment with an EU FTA as long as we are outside the EEA and Customs Union
    We should go EEA for sure. By far the best Brexit result.
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    YokesYokes Posts: 1,202
    Belarus

    72 hours for President Big Hat to stay put and by doing so putting a lid on the situation. This is a very finely balanced situation.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,074
    Yokes said:

    Belarus

    72 hours for President Big Hat to stay put and by doing so putting a lid on the situation. This is a very finely balanced situation.

    It looks like he's losing more and more support from within the state apparatus. It's a question of when and how he goes, not if.
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