Which suggests this will be the closest Presidential re election vote since WW2
Trump is doing slightly better than Truman was at this point. But Truman has a big spike in popularity incoming which I can't see Trump matching.
If it is close, and I suspect you will be right as things tighten dramatically after Labour day, then it seems nearly half of Americans aren't bothered whether they continue to live in a democracy.
Wemyss Bay to Rothesay. Have told him that Furlough has saved our company
So if we find he quotes this random businessman he met on the Wemyss Bay to Rothesay ferry who told him how wonderful furlough was, he’s telling the truth and it was you?
Well, at least you had something nice to say to him. I hope he was duly amiable.
We also talked about the wonders of Teesside!
Short conversation then?
Teesside is an interesting subject.
Isn't it the place with the maddest Mayor in the country?
Least accessible airport by rail despite there being a station with same name?
I would have thought that in the UK, Sumburgh Airport in Shetland has to be the least accessible airport by Rail.
Wemyss Bay to Rothesay. Have told him that Furlough has saved our company
So if we find he quotes this random businessman he met on the Wemyss Bay to Rothesay ferry who told him how wonderful furlough was, he’s telling the truth and it was you?
Well, at least you had something nice to say to him. I hope he was duly amiable.
We also talked about the wonders of Teesside!
Short conversation then?
Teesside is an interesting subject.
Isn't it the place with the maddest Mayor in the country?
Least accessible airport by rail despite there being a station with same name?
I would have thought that in the UK, Sumburgh Airport in Shetland has to be the least accessible airport by Rail.
El Pais: Spain ranks eighth in the world for Covid-19 fatalities, taking into account the official figure of around 28,000 deaths. But the 45,000 calculated by EL PAÍS based on regional and other records would put Spain in fifth place, with similar figures as the United Kingdom.
And the numbers get worse relative to the population: Spain has 61 deaths for every 100,000 people, higher than Italy (58), France (45) or Portugal (16). Within Spain, there have been huge differences between regions like Madrid, Castilla-La Mancha and Cataluña, with over 30,000 fatalities, and other parts of the country with a much lower death count.
Another clown that will come up , hide somewhere for the day, never meet a member of the public or especially the government and run back to England. Wonder if moothie and her new lapdog will be there to lick his butt.
Well, he’s already met @RochdalePioneers. So he’s met at least some members of the public, even if not Scottish ones.
That is a world record for a Tory in Scotland I must admit. Still disgraceful they do not meet Scottish government and pretend they are giving us charity when it is our own money. Still an erchie in my mind if not the worst of them.
You were just complaining that they spend all their time cooped up and not meeting the people, and now you are complaining about the reverse?
Bollox Rob, just because he was cornered on a ferry does not mean meeting the public. These arses waltz up here , ignore the government , swan about like colonial Governors and scurry back to London. Try to make out they are giving us charity rather than returning a fraction of our own money to us. They should stay in London.
Another clown that will come up , hide somewhere for the day, never meet a member of the public or especially the government and run back to England. Wonder if moothie and her new lapdog will be there to lick his butt.
Well, he’s already met @RochdalePioneers. So he’s met at least some members of the public, even if not Scottish ones.
That is a world record for a Tory in Scotland I must admit. Still disgraceful they do not meet Scottish government and pretend they are giving us charity when it is our own money. Still an erchie in my mind if not the worst of them.
You were just complaining that they spend all their time cooped up and not meeting the people, and now you are complaining about the reverse?
Bollox Rob, just because he was cornered on a ferry does not mean meeting the public. These arses waltz up here , ignore the government , swan about like colonial Governors and scurry back to London. Try to make out they are giving us charity rather than returning a fraction of our own money to us. They should stay in London.
Which side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Quite how you can be so utterly cynical is beyond me.
Wemyss Bay to Rothesay. Have told him that Furlough has saved our company
So if we find he quotes this random businessman he met on the Wemyss Bay to Rothesay ferry who told him how wonderful furlough was, he’s telling the truth and it was you?
Well, at least you had something nice to say to him. I hope he was duly amiable.
We also talked about the wonders of Teesside!
Short conversation then?
Teesside is an interesting subject.
Isn't it the place with the maddest Mayor in the country?
Least accessible airport by rail despite there being a station with same name?
I would have thought that in the UK, Sumburgh Airport in Shetland has to be the least accessible airport by Rail.
Not at all, I got there from Bergen last October.
NB Oslo to Bergen is a fantastic train journey.
More worried about the Bergen to Sumburgh rail leg.
Wemyss Bay to Rothesay. Have told him that Furlough has saved our company
So if we find he quotes this random businessman he met on the Wemyss Bay to Rothesay ferry who told him how wonderful furlough was, he’s telling the truth and it was you?
Well, at least you had something nice to say to him. I hope he was duly amiable.
We also talked about the wonders of Teesside!
Short conversation then?
Teesside is an interesting subject.
Isn't it the place with the maddest Mayor in the country?
Least accessible airport by rail despite there being a station with same name?
I would have thought that in the UK, Sumburgh Airport in Shetland has to be the least accessible airport by Rail.
Barra Eoligarry is also in with a shout, although it is closer to the nearest rail station (there's one at Kyle of Lochalsh). Gets extra points from me as probably the most accessible by boat (runways are the beach)
Another clown that will come up , hide somewhere for the day, never meet a member of the public or especially the government and run back to England. Wonder if moothie and her new lapdog will be there to lick his butt.
Well, he’s already met @RochdalePioneers. So he’s met at least some members of the public, even if not Scottish ones.
That is a world record for a Tory in Scotland I must admit. Still disgraceful they do not meet Scottish government and pretend they are giving us charity when it is our own money. Still an erchie in my mind if not the worst of them.
You were just complaining that they spend all their time cooped up and not meeting the people, and now you are complaining about the reverse?
Bollox Rob, just because he was cornered on a ferry does not mean meeting the public. These arses waltz up here , ignore the government , swan about like colonial Governors and scurry back to London. Try to make out they are giving us charity rather than returning a fraction of our own money to us. They should stay in London.
Which side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Quite how you can be so utterly cynical is beyond me.
It is great fun Rob, hate a Tory a day is good for you. Unlimited choice of nasty pieces of work to choose from.
Trunp will sadly be re-elected. Biden is piling up huge votes in the safe Democrat areas California 67- 29, New York, Washington. North East etc, that gives him a large national lead but it is close in the marginal areas that would get Trump home again. I suspect Biden could win the national vote by 4-7% and still lose on the State by State count, it is a bizarre system for a country that prides itself on being the "greatest Democracy in the world"
It's really *not* close in the marginal states, the tipping point on the current polling is PA which is currently at Biden +6. That's not the kind of lead that's impossible to overturn, but it's not close.
Florida or Wisconsin are the tipping points, Michigan and Pennsylvania only get Biden to 268 plus the Hillary states or 269 plus Nebraska 02
The 538 numbers give Biden a slightly bigger lead in Wisconsin than PA (7.4% vs 6%); I can't remember which was closer in 2016 but there wasn't much in it.
But the point remains either way: Biden has a slightly bigger lead nationally than in (whichever of those is) the tipping point state, but it's not a monster gap, and neither is "close" on current polling.
Trafalgar Group has Biden ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania but Trump ahead in Wisconsin and Florida tied.
Trafalgar was most accurate at state level in 2016
Another clown that will come up , hide somewhere for the day, never meet a member of the public or especially the government and run back to England. Wonder if moothie and her new lapdog will be there to lick his butt.
Well, he’s already met @RochdalePioneers. So he’s met at least some members of the public, even if not Scottish ones.
That is a world record for a Tory in Scotland I must admit. Still disgraceful they do not meet Scottish government and pretend they are giving us charity when it is our own money. Still an erchie in my mind if not the worst of them.
You were just complaining that they spend all their time cooped up and not meeting the people, and now you are complaining about the reverse?
Bollox Rob, just because he was cornered on a ferry does not mean meeting the public. These arses waltz up here , ignore the government , swan about like colonial Governors and scurry back to London. Try to make out they are giving us charity rather than returning a fraction of our own money to us. They should stay in London.
Which side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Quite how you can be so utterly cynical is beyond me.
It is great fun Rob, hate a Tory a day is good for you. Unlimited choice of nasty pieces of work to choose from.
I have a great concern for your blood pressure at times.
Which suggests this will be the closest Presidential re election vote since WW2
No it does not. That does not follow.
I strongly expect this will not be as close as 2004. It may not even be as close as 2012.
Trump's approval is below Bush's in 2004 or Obama's in 2012 who both won but above Bush Snr' s in 1992 or Carter's in 1980 who both lost which suggests it could still be very close
No that's a logical fallacy.
Bush 2004 was a very narrow victory for Bush - and he's less popular than that.
Carter 1980 was a massive landslide for Reagan, while Bush Snr 1992 was an electoral vote landslide for Clinton.
So he's less popular than a narrowly elected President, but more popular than landslide defeats. The idea that means it will be close therefore is a logical fallacy - its entirely possible it will be a heavy but not landslide defeat.
Bush Snr got 168 electoral votes, Dubya Bush got 286 electoral votes.
More than 168 but less thanJohmson 286 is a wide range of possibilities which does not automatically mean it will be close. In fact its hard to be close if he's getting less than 286.
If Trump holds all his 2016 states bar Michigan and Pennsylvania he is re elected by the narrowest of margins, that is still a possibility though it would be an even closer EC vote than Bush v Gore 2000 with Florida again likely decisive
I agree I can still see Biden winning comfortably by up to 6% nationally including narrowly winning Florida, Arizona and North Carolina but I'm still cautious about those 3 states.
I see Trump winning 45% or so nationally not much down on the 46.1% he got last time but people may be more motivated to vote against him.
I have the likely order of 'swing states' as something like MI>PA>WI>FL>AZ>NC>OH>GA>IA>TX
I think Trump's national vote share will be up on 2016. But Biden's will be up more.
If Trump's vote share is down on 2016 it is GOP apocalypse scenario time.
I'm not sure how Trump gets a higher vote share, he's lost a lot of suburban white women voters and not picked up any others. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with 43%.
Johnson got 3% in 2016, some Libertarian voters could go Trump as Jorgensen is left of Johnson
The most important news to come out of America today, this is seismic.
Eurovision Sets Sail for U.S. Shores as ‘American Song Contest’
The “Eurovision Song Contest,” Europe’s popular music competition, one of the world’s biggest televised events and the platform that helped launch ABBA, is coming to America. “The American Song Contest” is set to debut during the 2021 holiday season.
Hoping to siphon off some of the magic of the beloved six-decade-old show, which draws over 200 million viewers to its grand finale, the premise for “The American Song Contest” will remain similar to the European version. Professional musical artists — solo singers, duos or groups up to six members — from each of the 50 states and across every musical genre will perform all original songs on the live televised event.
Another clown that will come up , hide somewhere for the day, never meet a member of the public or especially the government and run back to England. Wonder if moothie and her new lapdog will be there to lick his butt.
Well, he’s already met @RochdalePioneers. So he’s met at least some members of the public, even if not Scottish ones.
That is a world record for a Tory in Scotland I must admit. Still disgraceful they do not meet Scottish government and pretend they are giving us charity when it is our own money. Still an erchie in my mind if not the worst of them.
You were just complaining that they spend all their time cooped up and not meeting the people, and now you are complaining about the reverse?
Bollox Rob, just because he was cornered on a ferry does not mean meeting the public. These arses waltz up here , ignore the government , swan about like colonial Governors and scurry back to London. Try to make out they are giving us charity rather than returning a fraction of our own money to us. They should stay in London.
Which side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Quite how you can be so utterly cynical is beyond me.
It is great fun Rob, hate a Tory a day is good for you. Unlimited choice of nasty pieces of work to choose from.
I have a great concern for your blood pressure at times.
Don't worry Rob , I am on the statins and my recent MOT said my heart was working a treat. I keep it all well oiled.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
The most important news to come out of America today, this is seismic.
Eurovision Sets Sail for U.S. Shores as ‘American Song Contest’
The “Eurovision Song Contest,” Europe’s popular music competition, one of the world’s biggest televised events and the platform that helped launch ABBA, is coming to America. “The American Song Contest” is set to debut during the 2021 holiday season.
Hoping to siphon off some of the magic of the beloved six-decade-old show, which draws over 200 million viewers to its grand finale, the premise for “The American Song Contest” will remain similar to the European version. Professional musical artists — solo singers, duos or groups up to six members — from each of the 50 states and across every musical genre will perform all original songs on the live televised event.
The most important news to come out of America today, this is seismic.
Eurovision Sets Sail for U.S. Shores as ‘American Song Contest’
The “Eurovision Song Contest,” Europe’s popular music competition, one of the world’s biggest televised events and the platform that helped launch ABBA, is coming to America. “The American Song Contest” is set to debut during the 2021 holiday season.
Hoping to siphon off some of the magic of the beloved six-decade-old show, which draws over 200 million viewers to its grand finale, the premise for “The American Song Contest” will remain similar to the European version. Professional musical artists — solo singers, duos or groups up to six members — from each of the 50 states and across every musical genre will perform all original songs on the live televised event.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
Well they should say no then. The problem is they haven’t said yes or no.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Trafalgar Group has Biden ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania but Trump ahead in Wisconsin and Florida tied.
Trafalgar was most accurate at state level in 2016
Yes, you keep saying that and it's anecdotally helpful but meaningless today.
Neither of us know the changes in methodology and sampling other pollsters have instigated since 2016 just as the bulk of UK pollsters who got the 1992 GE result wrong made significant changes and were (generally) better in 1997.
I recall big debates on here about the reliability of telephone vs online polling back in the day.
Anyway, the EPIC/MRA poll for Michigan out today gives Biden an 11-point advantage (51-40).
England into full Reluctant Turkish Conscript Mode here. Anything above 180 will be a bonus.
Stuart Broad once hit 169 against this lot, we'll be fine.
Why? Is the News of World going to bribe Pakistan to lose again?
Oh no, it can't, it's been shut down for hacking phones.
But if Woakes is going to get out like that...
I thought that was spot fixing not matching fixing.
It was all fixing.
I still can't believe the Fake Sheikh got away with that. They should have put the useless twat in the dock, where he belonged, rather than waiting all that time before doing him.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
The most important news to come out of America today, this is seismic.
Eurovision Sets Sail for U.S. Shores as ‘American Song Contest’
The “Eurovision Song Contest,” Europe’s popular music competition, one of the world’s biggest televised events and the platform that helped launch ABBA, is coming to America. “The American Song Contest” is set to debut during the 2021 holiday season.
Hoping to siphon off some of the magic of the beloved six-decade-old show, which draws over 200 million viewers to its grand finale, the premise for “The American Song Contest” will remain similar to the European version. Professional musical artists — solo singers, duos or groups up to six members — from each of the 50 states and across every musical genre will perform all original songs on the live televised event.
Looking forward to Alabama and Mississippi block voting for each other like Greece and Cyprus do here.
Does this mean it's departing from Europe, so I don't have to put up with people wibbling about it any more?
YAY !
"Beloved"? ROFL
There's nothing better than a continental wine tasting on Eurovision night. You're trollied by the voting so it doesn't even matter that the BBC's choice for Britain (announced with much fanfare and with the evergreen promise of "this year it'll be different!") comes a miserable 22nd out of 26th.
OT I've had this new phone less than a week and have just received my first phishing text (purporting to be from HMRC).
Damn: I've just doxxed myself as being not-Liam Fox.
The Government have set up a department to try and make some headway into the scams and phishing emails (not sure about tests).
If you get an obvious phishing email then you forward it to
report@phishing.gov.uk
You get a the following reply:
"Thank you for sending on your suspicious message.
Timely alerts from people like you help us to act quickly and protect many more people from being affected.
As of 30/06/20 the number of reports received stand at more than 1,173,000 with the removal of 4,590 scams and 11,543 URLs.
Thank you for your continued support
Our investigations may take some time. Whilst the NCSC is unable to inform you of the outcome of its review, we can confirm that we do act upon every message received.
We’ll analyse the content of the suspect email and any websites it links to where appropriate.
If we discover activity that we believe is malicious, we may: • seek to block the address the email came from, so it can no longer send emails • work with website hosting companies to remove links to malicious websites • raise awareness of commonly reported suspicious emails and methods used (via partners)"
For the sake of about 5 seconds to forward the email to them it seems like a worthwhile thing to me.
Is that only for phishing emails claiming to be from HMRC or does it apply to eg phishing emails claiming to be from RBS etc?
Any phishing. TV licencing is the big one at the moment. Nut they are happy to get banks etc as well.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
I'm sure the dead children of Yemmen will appreciate it.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
I'm sure the dead children of Yemmen will appreciate it.
You do realise the UAE was also bombing Yemen, yet the Premier League didn’t seem to have any problem with their ownership of Manchester City.
The O&D test is supposed to applied retrospectively every year. We all know who really controls Manchester City.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
I'm sure the dead children of Yemmen will appreciate it.
You do realise the UAE was also bombing Yemen, yet the Premier League didn’t seem to have any problem with their ownership of Manchester City.
The O&D test is supposed to applied retrospectively every year. We all know who really controls Manchester City.
Tbf, I wouldn't have allowed them in either and I'd love to see them forced out.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
Well when the Abu Dhabi/UAE government is behind the pirating of sports rights you might have a point.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
Well when the Abu Dhabi/UAE government is behind the pirating of sports rights you might have a point.
Is it about piracy, or is it about who really is in control, or is it about human rights?
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
Well when the Abu Dhabi/UAE government is behind the pirating of sports rights you might have a point.
Is it about piracy, or is it about who really is in control, or is it about human rights?
You’re all over the place.
Morally it's human rights, but for the PL it's piracy. If a dodgy outfit like the Saudis bought Spurs I'd be done with the club. So glad that they were advised against it because of our fanbase potentially not agreeing with it.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
Well when the Abu Dhabi/UAE government is behind the pirating of sports rights you might have a point.
Is it about piracy, or is it about who really is in control, or is it about human rights?
You’re all over the place.
Morally it's human rights, but for the PL it's piracy. If a dodgy outfit like the Saudis bought Spurs I'd be done with the club. So glad that they were advised against it because of our fanbase potentially not agreeing with it.
Talking about City, do we expect Guardiola's goal difference trophy champions to go through tonight or will Real Madrid expose him as the chequebook fraud that he is?
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
The UAE are bad, but they're nowhere in the league of the Saudis. The Saudis are far, far worse.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
If only you had the same level of contempt for the state behind the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
That’s of no relevance to the O&D test. You know, I know it, and the Premier League knows it. That’s why they haven’t rejected it because they know they can’t. They are simply delaying so they don’t have to.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
Actually it is, one of the reasons for the delay was to see just how connected to the Saudi state the potential new owners would have been, something the new potential answers refused to answer properly.
You mean just how Sheikh Mansour really controls Manchester City?
The UAE are bad, but they're nowhere in the league of the Saudis. The Saudis are far, far worse.
That’s your opinion. And you’re entitled to it, but opinions should have no relevance in the current O&D test.
The fact is that the Premier League has no real grounds to block the takeover so they are stalling to try and kill the deal, and they may well have succeeded. However the deal is still on the table and we are in limbo until the Premier League either accepts or rejects it.
The ridiculous part of this whole thing is that if we got relegated, got took over by PIF, then got promoted, the Premier League could do nothing about it.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
Because the Saudi regime has yet to answer the charges, they're dragging it out to try and force the PL to agree and make them look unpopular.
I see that Boris Johnson (along with 28 other MPs) has backed the 100k signatures Newcastle United petition calling for an investigation into why the Premier League O&D test has taken 17 weeks and counting.
Well it really shouldn't have. Once Saudi started approving copyright infringement the answer should have been a straight NO.
It was the Saudi response to the WTO ruling, they pretty much screenshotted the WTO logo and put out press releases saying the exact of the WTO report.
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Well then they should reject it so it can be appealed.
The deal is still on the table.
But not to the PL's satisfaction, they are still awaiting the group's responses to their questions about ultimate control and corporate governance.
Delaying tactics. The Premier League is a disgrace and me and all other Newcastle fans have nothing but contempt for them.
Could be worse, my partner's dad is a Sunderland fan.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
Because the Saudi regime has yet to answer the charges, they're dragging it out to try and force the PL to agree and make them look unpopular.
With all due respect you have no idea what is going on.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That is the bit Gallowgate is missing the Saudi's backed out because the PL didn't want to make an unpopular decision (and either result is going to be unpopular).
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
Because the Saudi regime has yet to answer the charges, they're dragging it out to try and force the PL to agree and make them look unpopular.
With all due respect you have no idea what is going on.
No, you don't. You're blinded by the oil billions and can't see what you've become.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That is the bit Gallowgate is missing the Saudi's backed out because the PL didn't want to make an unpopular decision (and either result is going to be unpopular).
The Saudi’s haven’t backed out. The other parties in the consortium - Amanda Staveley and the Reuben brothers - have confirmed that the deal has not been oficially pulled. It’s still with the Premier League.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
Because the Saudi regime has yet to answer the charges, they're dragging it out to try and force the PL to agree and make them look unpopular.
With all due respect you have no idea what is going on.
No, you don't. You're blinded by the oil billions and can't see what you've become.
My city is missing out on millions of pounds of sorely needed investment because the big six don’t want to be challenged. This is not just about the club.
With all due respect I don’t care what you think morally.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
Stop pretending you know what’s going on.
You mean I've been right all along?
Not at all. The deal has not been rejected due to piracy issues - it’s not been rejected at all. It’s in limbo because the Premier League are a bunch of wet tissues.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
Stop pretending you know what’s going on.
It's likely the answers received got a follow up in the form of "Are you sure that is what you are saying as it doesn't match your actions"
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
Stop pretending you know what’s going on.
It's likely the answers received got a fully up in the form of "Are you sure that is what you are saying as it doesn't match your actions"
Allegedly the Premier League is saying that PIF is not independent as MBS is chairman, and therefore want the Saudi State or MBS listed as an actual director.
This is hypocrisy, because we all know who really controls Manchester City and yet Sheikh Mansour is not listed as a director and thus not subject to the O&D test.
The whole thing stinks, and your opinion on Saudi Arabia should have no relevance on whether the test passes or not.
The test is designed to protect the club being bought, not to protect the Premier League.
Broad really should be coming in ahead of Archer, at least on pitches not particularly suited to chin music. Indeed I remain of the view that Anderson and Archer is a pretty close shout.
But this team is at least 1 batsman short, arguably 4.
Anyone else remember when MBS was set forth to shine enlightenment upon the whole Gulf?
It’s quite something he can’t even get the green light to buy a premier league footie club, given the roll call of disgusting crooks who have been waved through the process post 92. If you ask me, he’s shown himself to be a total amateur.
It's kind of amusing to see a Lefty like @Gallowgate morph into an apologist for the Saudi regime
I’m more than happy for the Premier League to reject them. Then their hypocrisy can be exposed.
Given that the rejection would be because of piracy it's not exactly hypocrisy. You seem to think that it's because they want to by Newcastle that makes this an issue, it would be an issue if they wanted to buy any club. Your victimhood does you no favours and has turned you into a apologist for an evil regime that murders children.
Then why doesn’t the Premier League reject the deal?
We are limbo until they make a decision.
They can't make a decision as the purchasing party has pulled out of the deal.
That shows that you don’t really understand what is going on.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
Trust me, I do know a lot.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Questions they already have the answers to. The whole thing stinks and you don’t care because you’re a Liverpool fan and couldn’t give two sh*ts what happens to Newcastle.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
Stop pretending you know what’s going on.
It's likely the answers received got a fully up in the form of "Are you sure that is what you are saying as it doesn't match your actions"
Allegedly the Premier League is saying that PIF is not independent as MBS is chairman, and therefore want the Saudi State or MBS listed as an actual director.
This is hypocrisy, because we all know who really controls Manchester City and yet Sheikh Mansour is not listed as a director and thus not subject to the O&D test.
The whole thing stinks, and your opinion on Saudi Arabia should have no relevance on whether the test passes or not.
The test is designed to protect the club being bought, not to protect the Premier League.
You are aware that I'm a Toon supporter and have probably been to more matches than you have..
Broad really should be coming in ahead of Archer, at least on pitches not particularly suited to chin music. Indeed I remain of the view that Anderson and Archer is a pretty close shout.
But this team is at least 1 batsman short, arguably 4.
If he's going to bat like that, Broad should be coming in ahead of Root.
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Very sad.
NB Oslo to Bergen is a fantastic train journey.
Spain ranks eighth in the world for Covid-19 fatalities, taking into account the official figure of around 28,000 deaths. But the 45,000 calculated by EL PAÍS based on regional and other records would put Spain in fifth place, with similar figures as the United Kingdom.
And the numbers get worse relative to the population: Spain has 61 deaths for every 100,000 people, higher than Italy (58), France (45) or Portugal (16). Within Spain, there have been huge differences between regions like Madrid, Castilla-La Mancha and Cataluña, with over 30,000 fatalities, and other parts of the country with a much lower death count.
Rob , get your trousers on man, we know you are a Tory but that is too far, chasing Cameron's old girlfriend from Uni.
Was he wild?
Fucking livid...
Trafalgar was most accurate at state level in 2016
Headline - 10
7 days - 6
Yesterday - 1
A good example as to why headline "reporting date" numbers are misleading,
As ever, 3-5 days... lawyer, baseball bat, kimono....
Eurovision Sets Sail for U.S. Shores as ‘American Song Contest’
The “Eurovision Song Contest,” Europe’s popular music competition, one of the world’s biggest televised events and the platform that helped launch ABBA, is coming to America. “The American Song Contest” is set to debut during the 2021 holiday season.
Hoping to siphon off some of the magic of the beloved six-decade-old show, which draws over 200 million viewers to its grand finale, the premise for “The American Song Contest” will remain similar to the European version. Professional musical artists — solo singers, duos or groups up to six members — from each of the 50 states and across every musical genre will perform all original songs on the live televised event.
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/eurovision-song-contest-american-song-contest-1234726887/
YAY !
"Beloved"? ROFL
Oh no, it can't, it's been shut down for hacking phones.
But if Woakes is going to get out like that...
I've been banging on for months on here saying the PL cannot afford to piss off their rights holders at the best of times, and certainly not during a pandemic.
Neither of us know the changes in methodology and sampling other pollsters have instigated since 2016 just as the bulk of UK pollsters who got the 1992 GE result wrong made significant changes and were (generally) better in 1997.
I recall big debates on here about the reliability of telephone vs online polling back in the day.
Anyway, the EPIC/MRA poll for Michigan out today gives Biden an 11-point advantage (51-40).
https://www.woodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2020/08/JULY-2020_EPIC-MRA-SURVEY.pdf
Once again within the 4-6% swing window given Trump won this by a whisker last time.
Utah doesn't get polled very often - in 2016 Trump got 45.5%, Clinton 27.5% and Evan McMullin running as an Independent got 21.5%/
Today's Deseret News/Hinckley Institute poll gives Trump a 19-point lead (50-31) so a fractional swing to the President.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/8/6/21357209/donald-trump-holding-onto-lead-over-joe-biden-in-utah-deseret-news-hinckley-institute-poll
To be fair, the last Democrat to win Utah was Lyndon Johnson in 1964 so I suspect Joe Biden isn't expecting its 6 EC votes to be heading his way.
I still can't believe the Fake Sheikh got away with that. They should have put the useless twat in the dock, where he belonged, rather than waiting all that time before doing him.
The deal is still on the table.
"England need a Jack Russell behind the wicket".
I'm not sure if it would help but the barking might put off the incoming batsman.
To the extent most people don't realise that wasn't his name.
Although at the time there were many who thought Duckworth was the better pure keeper.
And just a pair of balls and my auntie will become my uncle.
It’s a disgrace, and the 100k+ football fans asking for transparency in the process are right.
We are a club in limbo - we need an acceptance or a rejection.
The O&D test is supposed to applied retrospectively every year. We all know who really controls Manchester City.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=767252717054388
You’re all over the place.
The fact is that the Premier League has no real grounds to block the takeover so they are stalling to try and kill the deal, and they may well have succeeded. However the deal is still on the table and we are in limbo until the Premier League either accepts or rejects it.
The ridiculous part of this whole thing is that if we got relegated, got took over by PIF, then got promoted, the Premier League could do nothing about it.
We are limbo until they make a decision.
The purchasing party has not officially pulled out, regardless of their statement - the deal is still on the table, and has not been formally withdrawn. Conversations with the Premier League still continue.
With all due respect I don’t care what you think morally.
Remember when I told you several months ago that the deal is likely to founder over piracy issues and you said I was wrong?
The Premier League and their lawyers are still waiting for answers to a plethora of questions they have asked.
Regardless you’re flip-flopping all over the place. One minute you say “oh but the deal has been pulled so that’s it” and then the next its “well they are waiting for answers”.
Stop pretending you know what’s going on.
This is hypocrisy, because we all know who really controls Manchester City and yet Sheikh Mansour is not listed as a director and thus not subject to the O&D test.
The whole thing stinks, and your opinion on Saudi Arabia should have no relevance on whether the test passes or not.
The test is designed to protect the club being bought, not to protect the Premier League.
But Pakistan hold the cricketing equivalent of four aces.
But this team is at least 1 batsman short, arguably 4.
It’s quite something he can’t even get the green light to buy a premier league footie club, given the roll call of disgusting crooks who have been waved through the process post 92. If you ask me, he’s shown himself to be a total amateur.