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  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    Scott_xP said:
    'Some of the papers'? Looks like even the media are running out of fucks to give about this non-story.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,217
    Some of the license fee does go to Channel 4.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    "America is determined to sink Huawei

    A new escalation in the tech conflict illustrates the limits of American power" (£)

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/05/23/america-is-determined-to-sink-huawei
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,999
    isam said:

    Who are we going to blame if it turns out lockdown was a waste of a lot of time and even more money?

    BJ & Dom? They were and are in charge aren't they?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    Who are we going to blame if it turns out lockdown was a waste of a lot of time and even more money?

    BJ & Dom? They were and are in charge aren't they?
    Yes, problem is they were the least enthusiastic of the UK politicians. The others seem to think the lockdown was too late and not strict enough.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,563

    HYUFD said:

    Andrew said:

    501 deaths in Mexico today. Don't even want to imagine how high that figure might go.

    Mexico has the 10th highest population in the world and the 9th highest number of Covid deaths so about as expected
    UK has the 21st highest population in the world and the... oh, 2nd highest number of Covid deaths... so about as expected?
    The important factor is population density. And on that score we are in big trouble.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,413
    edited May 2020
    If you're missing your sport the NRL starts tomorrow morning on Sky Sports.
    All 8 games live over the weekend. By far the highest quality domestic rugby competition of either code in the World.
    Mornings only. Bloody Aussies living upside down but nonetheless.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878

    HYUFD said:

    Andrew said:

    501 deaths in Mexico today. Don't even want to imagine how high that figure might go.

    Mexico has the 10th highest population in the world and the 9th highest number of Covid deaths so about as expected
    UK has the 21st highest population in the world and the... oh, 2nd highest number of Covid deaths... so about as expected?
    The important factor is population density. And on that score we are in big trouble.
    Hong Kong is pretty densely populated, they had a handful of deaths.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,413

    HYUFD said:

    Andrew said:

    501 deaths in Mexico today. Don't even want to imagine how high that figure might go.

    Mexico has the 10th highest population in the world and the 9th highest number of Covid deaths so about as expected
    UK has the 21st highest population in the world and the... oh, 2nd highest number of Covid deaths... so about as expected?
    The important factor is population density. And on that score we are in big trouble.
    Hong Kong is pretty densely populated, they had a handful of deaths.
    Taiwan has few. My former stamping ground of Yung Ho was, possibly still is, the most densely populated municipality in the world.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    HYUFD said:

    Andrew said:

    501 deaths in Mexico today. Don't even want to imagine how high that figure might go.

    Mexico has the 10th highest population in the world and the 9th highest number of Covid deaths so about as expected
    UK has the 21st highest population in the world and the... oh, 2nd highest number of Covid deaths... so about as expected?
    The important factor is population density. And on that score we are in big trouble.
    Lots of densely populated places are doing fine. The important factor is government incompetence.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,563

    HYUFD said:

    Andrew said:

    501 deaths in Mexico today. Don't even want to imagine how high that figure might go.

    Mexico has the 10th highest population in the world and the 9th highest number of Covid deaths so about as expected
    UK has the 21st highest population in the world and the... oh, 2nd highest number of Covid deaths... so about as expected?
    The important factor is population density. And on that score we are in big trouble.
    Lots of densely populated places are doing fine. The important factor is government incompetence.
    Rubbish. A few places with extensive previous experience of such viruses are doing fine. Anywhere else - so anywhere outside of the Far East - is basically suffering a similar effect depending on population density.

    I have said all along that the Government have been incompetent in certain areas and there should be criminal prosecutions for those things. But it is absolutely no surprise that it is some of the most densely populated areas of Europe that have suffered worst.

    This is also why the Swedish 'experiment' is so clearly a failure. Their population density meant they should have had a fairly low death rate. But because they decided to go for the herd immunity method they have suffered far higher death rates compared to the much more densely populated Denmark next door.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,999
    isam said:

    Ave_it said:

    isam said:

    Who are we going to blame if it turns out lockdown was a waste of a lot of time and even more money?

    Nicola Sturgeon? As she likes the Stalinist lockdown approach
    Boris obviously didn't want to do it, so we could blame him for not having the courage of his convictions.

    Then again he was a relative sceptic compared to the Hitler youth lockdown zealots
    Since you dropped the H bomb, great leader who was dragged unwittingly into immoral disaster by the fanatics isn't really an hypothesis with a great precedent.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,929
    isam said:
    That is because no-one bothered to read what the BBC said, which was that EM's questions were NOT biased in the context of the whole programme, as she was summarising the questions that would be examined in greater detail BUT were biased if taken out of that context.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,929
    Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick unlawfully approved a housing development, coincidentally saving a Conservative Party donor £40 million.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52826751
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    edited May 2020

    Andy_JS said:
    Sweden was right says Norway?
    Quote from the article:

    "Camilla Stoltenberg, director of Norway’s public health agency, has given an interview where she is candid about the implications of this discovery. ‘Our assessment now, and I find that there is a broad consensus in relation to the reopening, was that one could probably achieve the same effect – and avoid part of the unfortunate repercussions – by not closing. But, instead, staying open with precautions to stop the spread.’ This is important to admit, she says, because if the infection levels rise again – or a second wave hits in the winter – you need to be brutally honest about whether lockdown proved effective."
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,929
    Will Dominic Cummings still be in position on 1st June?

    Ladbrokes has taken the market down overnight. Ladbrokes had been shortest about Cummings going and (unsurprisingly) longest about him staying so it will be interesting to see how they open up in the morning.
    PP/Betfair 11/4 go, 2/9 stay
    Starsports 11/4 go, 1/4 stay
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    edited May 2020
    An interesting new article has appeared on the Unherd website.

    "Why we remember wars but forget plagues
    Pandemics aren't represented in film or literature because they're too boring, too horrific and too depressing
    BY SEAN THOMAS"

    https://unherd.com/2020/05/why-we-remember-wars-but-forget-plagues/
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,708
    rcs1000 said:

    Some of the license fee does go to Channel 4.
    No it doesn't.

    "Unlike the BBC, Channel 4 receives no public funding. It is funded entirely by its own commercial activities."

    https://www.channel4.com/about_c4/information.html
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,002

  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,191
    franklyn said:

    Andy_JS said:

    franklyn said:

    So if you have been in contact with anyone with Covid 19 you must self isolate for 14 days, you must self isolate. So what about all the carers in care homes, and the hospital doctors, nurses, pharmacists, porters, cleaners and dinner ladies on Covid wards. And what about their partners and flat-mates, and the people they travel to work with on the bus. And on it goes

    There has to be an exemption for care home workers. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to function.
    But there are huge numbers of care home workers, probably the highest risk group in the UK, and if we start exempting them and their friends and families we might as well not bother. This is a hopeless farce.
    I assume it means any contact without wearing PPE, otherwise it would indeed be totally unworkable.

    Daily testing of contacts who can't self isolate might also make sense.
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