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  • fitalass said:

    Surely not all in one day, no way would he be able to hold his balance, never mind a conversation or a cheery disposition?!

    SeanT said:

    Researching a blog:

    Fact: Franz Liszt downed 2-3 bottles of wine a day, 1-2 bottles cognac, + several tumblers of absinthe.

    Friends noted Liszt “had a cheerful disposition".

    Brahms and ...

    I read somewhere that Lord Palmerston had a similarly spectacular intake. But wasn't booze much weaker back then? Even in my drinking lifetime there was a time when 4% for beer and 13% for wine was considered strong.

    The same thought crossed my mind - however the "1-2 bottles cognac, + several tumblers of absinthe" would still have been considerably potent stuff. -

    True. It does seem as if there were a lot more pissed people back in the day. What with all the alcohol and the layers of heavy clothing great Empires were built by visionaries who were permanently dehydrated.

    Don't forget some of them were also prodigious user of opiates and other drugs.

    Makes the achievement of the British Empire even more important.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2013
    Luke Hall has been selected by Conservatives in Thornbury & Yate:

    twitter.com/chrisskidmoremp/status/410174101576486912
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2013
    Dominic Raab reselected by Conservatives in Esher & Walton:

    twitter.com/LewistoryMary/status/410149253382946816
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2013
  • R0berts said:

    rcs1000 said:

    SeanT said:

    R0berts said:

    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Danny Blanchflower ‏@D_Blanchflower 16m
    Much appreciated the support I am getting from those who realise the tory trolls & commentariat dont like the message I have been delivering

    Alastair Stewart ‏@alstewitn 11m
    @D_Blanchflower I think a little less sullying of those who disagree with your 'message' would achieve a better response, Danny.

    Danny Blanchflower ‏@D_Blanchflower 10m
    @alstewitn if they give it then i will give it right back - scurrilous attacks need to be defended - I am sick of the lies

    Alastair Stewart ‏@alstewitn 6m
    @D_Blanchflower but 'stick to O level wood-work' and 'buffoons' ? Is that how you'd correct an erring student? Just asking.

    Danny Blanchflower ‏@D_Blanchflower 17m
    @alstewitn maybe if the Labour Party was doing more of it I wouldnt have to...!

    Alastair Stewart ‏@alstewitn 13m
    @D_Blanchflower that is a different point but @edballsmp's response to Autumn Statement & treatment there-after may be instructive to you..!

    Can't believe for a second that Tories religiously follow and troll people they don't like. As if.

    On which note, you seem to be following Danny Blanchflower's tweets, fitalass?
    Blanchflower is an ass. A bloated pig's bladder: punctured. He should go and become a hermit in Anglesey in something. Seldom has a man been proved so wrong so consistently yet been so determined we should still hear his flatulent opinion (Will Hutton excepted, of course).
    Only Paul Krugman had been as consistently wrong as Mr Blanchflower.

    George Osborne tops the lot.
    What's up ? you seem uptight tonight.

    The realisation that Osborne has done a brilliant job and The faith they had in Blanchflower, Krugman and the other idiots was misplaced has finally hit home.
  • SeanT said:

    fitalass said:

    Surely not all in one day, no way would he be able to hold his balance, never mind a conversation or a cheery disposition?!

    SeanT said:

    Researching a blog:

    Fact: Franz Liszt downed 2-3 bottles of wine a day, 1-2 bottles cognac, + several tumblers of absinthe.

    Friends noted Liszt “had a cheerful disposition".

    Supposedly true. Of course the human body habituates to a level of intoxication. I can remember, by the end of my addiction, happily smoking vast quantities of heroin - grams a day - that would probably have killed me, briskly, ten years earlier.

    Likewise, I can now drink a bottle or two of red in a night, and neither feel particularly drunk nor suffer any hangover. If my mum did that her head would fall off, or she'd dance naked along Carbis Bay.

    I'm glad she's virtually teetotal.
    Carbis Bay-what a beautiful place.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Only Paul Krugman had been as consistently wrong as Mr Blanchflower.

    .. which gives rise to a question: Is being lambasted by lefty economists a sufficient, as well as a necessary, condition for being shown to be spot-on in economic policy?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3623669/How-364-economists-got-it-totally-wrong.html
    The disturbing thing about that is, one of the 364, went onto become The Governor of the Bank of England during the credit crunch, I hope that's not an omen for Blanchflower.
    Maurice Peston, father of that renowned BBC economist who also gets everything wrong.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790

    Patrick said:

    And Kim Jong-un is the president of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    No he isn't. Kim Il-sung is.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    There is a lot riding on the strength and speed of this recovery politically, but surely rising employment and the increased job security that comes with this is already starting to feed into the polls?

    The Economist - No time for complacency

    Telegraph - George Osborne's claim that households are better off is 'inconceivable'
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2013
    As I pointed out earlier, the Economist's World In 2014 magazine has put the risk of social unrest in Britain and Thailand in the same "medium" category, which I find a bit bizarre. See page 88.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    edited December 2013
    @Carola
    He needs to get rid of that jumper. I wore something very similar at High School.
    Carola said:
  • SeanT said:



    Likewise, I can now drink a bottle or two of red in a night, and neither feel particularly drunk nor suffer any hangover. If my mum did that her head would fall off, or she'd dance naked along Carbis Bay.

    bet you can't play the piano like ode franz tho! amazing he could keep up the virtuosity with that intake. on the other hand, maybe his hands would be shaking without a couple of bottles pre-recital!

    can you work and drink tho? my tolerance for booze used to be quite high, but even then, as soon as I sipped a drink any hope of effective (academic) work was immediately gone. nowadays I fall asleep after 1 glass. which is boring, but good for my liver
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited December 2013
    Brahms and Liszt?

    Only in Liverpool, in the Philharmonic Dining Rooms (Grade II*), possibly the most ornate pub in the country...
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/92568426@N00/6136139946/in/photostream/

    Liszt visited the 'Pool twice. We have the oldest orchestra in the country (1840), older actually than the Vienna Philharmonic...
  • fitalass said:

    There is a lot riding on the strength and speed of this recovery politically, but surely rising employment and the increased job security that comes with this is already starting to feed into the polls?

    Emeperors New Clothes time.

    They would. If they existed outside the bubble in the real world. Here what employment there is feels frail, and "rising employment" is a joke. Count the numbers underemployed in part time jobs when they need more hours or full time, or no official stats cover them as they're economically inactive but not entitled to anything. I would post you links but I suspect you aren't interested.

    Personally I feel shame when I read how many people are now reliant on food banks, or that most people in poverty are working. Out in the real world the country is broken and people are afraid. No amount of official statistics will take that away, especially when the IFS savaging of Osbornes numbers shows the reality of the lie.

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