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David Cameron once said Dominic Cummings was a 'career psychopath', here's further proof for David Cameron's assertion. This is the sort of thing that could destroy the Tory party forever. https://t.co/c2eoGtqZ0u
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Plus even yesterday Matthew Parris was advising herd immunity for everyone bar the elderly and vulnerable in the Times and Parris is as wet a Remainer as they come and far from Cummings' ideology
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crashing-the-economy-will-also-cost-lives-l9kz50dqb
It’s a piece of evidence capable of varying interpretation. No doubt more will emerge in the fullness of time; until then, it’s pure speculation.
If it is true, you can understand why someone would want to leak it.
Over the past few days images have been shared of chaotic scenes at supermarkets as long queues form for groceries, while a number of branches have introduced restrictions to prevent panic buying during the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.
Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore said his club’s stewards were on hand to help manage the situation.
“Message to supermarket managers here on Merseyside. Our stadium stewards here LFC are offering their time and expertise in volunteering to help with crowd control, queue management, parking control, assisting the elderly and infirm taking their groceries to their cars, etc,” Moore wrote on Twitter.
“They are truly the best in the business and would be delighted to help in whatever way you would deem appropriate (and safe) on your premises. Please DM me so that I can put you in contact. YNWA”
It is the latest gesture from football clubs, a number of whom have already donated food, pledged help with food banks, or donated the use of facilities to healthcare services in recent days.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/22/liverpool-fc-ceo-offers-club-stewards-assist-crowds-supermarkets-coronavirus
As soon as you start leaking internal advice from officials then you cramp their ability to express their views. Additionally the quote is deliberately designed to damage Cummings.
Nipped out in the "over 70s hour" at Sainsbury this morning, and it was well-stocked. Friends in Broxtowe say the same of their branch. So apart from one or two items (paracetamol still seems scarce), maybe the "don'r panic buy" message has got through.
It is the person-who-planted-the-story's claim/interpretation of what Cummings allegedly said
My reading is that at a private engagement (i.e. not govt business) Cummings is alleged to have said this by several people present ["those present"].
I think it's highly plausible that in his quest to be a misunderstood science genius, he would have said something that sounded a lot like that.
I'm glad I'm not in government because it means I don't have to make decisions like risking the nation's economy, social stability and potentially even food and fuel security, versus allowing 3.4% of the population to die. But that is the nature of the job. For now, we have chosen. I hope it is the right choice.
Is there any evidence that Boris wasn't following the advice of the CMO? I seem to remember him standing next to him when the "herd immunity" plan was announced.
If he can share his misunderstandings with journalists then he is likely to be giving the PM incorrect advice, and I'm someone who has gone out of his way to largely praise Boris Johnson for his handling of the crisis.
Given that the alleged quote is out there, discussing and putting it in some sort of context is entirely reasonable.
And as kyf_100 points out, it’s not as though the hard choices government has been faced with haven’t been an active topic of discussion since the beginning of the pandemic.
People who fall into the high-risk categories should avoid any face-to-face contact for at least 12 weeks, the government said.
Many would say that his falling victim to a simplistic but factually dubious storyline is the very definition of karma.
https://twitter.com/Samtrickett1/status/1241718298850537475?s=20
The kryptonite that will destroy the Tory Party will be (if it occurs) systemic socio-economic collapse, brought on by an excessively lengthy and Draconian clampdown on the Plague. Hence the special emphasis on expanding testing capacity, recommissioning retired NHS staff (who will presumably be supplemented by vets and volunteers with rudimentary training if necessary,) and the production of masses and masses of ventilators. The more people they can afford to allow to get critically ill without causing the collapse of the healthcare system, the quicker they can let more people get back to work and the lower the likelihood of this recession escalating into something very much worse.
Cameron: +108
Johnson: +48
David Cameron did all the heavy lifting.
If you can't interpret log scales, look away now.
We are looking for signs of a reduced gradient (i.e. a slowing in the rate of growth)
The feeling being that when the dusts settles they aren't going to be that much better off than many other countries. In fact, it states German's are thought to be more unhealthy than the Italian (I was surprised to find out just how high the smoking rate was there).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/germany-low-coronavirus-mortality-rate-puzzles-experts
If you don't think this isn't a story then I can't help you.
Read my opening again
'In the world of politics perceptions occasionally matter more than reality'
This story is out there in the wild.
Deaths up by 22%
Confirmed cases up 13%
We are told the next week or so are critical with the health service close to buckling under the strain. This is why I find threads like this so frustrating.
(1) everybody who lives with said vulnerable persons is also instructed to do the same thing, which the authorities aren't doing (all they get is the parroting of the standard hygiene advice, which does next-to-no good if they're required to go out to work and to join the bunfight in the shops, bringing them into contact with a load of Plague vectors so that they just end up taking the disease home with them)
AND
(2) the most vulnerable people get absolute priority straight away (not in about six weeks' or three months' time) for home grocery deliveries, by whatever means can be found. There's absolutely no sign of this so, unless said persons are lucky enough to have friends or relatives close by who can do it for them, they or members of their household have to go out and join all the Plague vectors fighting over the last bag of pasta in the supermarket
If the support isn't in place for people who are meant to avoid all contact, then giving the advice in the first place is completely pointless. The NHS might as well save itself the cost (both monetary and in terms of finite working time) of sending all those letters and text messages.
Primark closes stores as UK high street shuts doors.
Retailer also cancels all new orders from suppliers as demand shrinks.
https://www.ft.com/content/06d8b780-6c31-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
If it doesn’t we’re all fucked anyway so it’s time to reopen the bars and party.
https://twitter.com/thelonevirologi/status/1241722701292634112
https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1241698669771911169?s=20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic
Go to right-hand side, click country, scroll down a bit, there's a bar chart on the right with daily +cases/deaths and %s. Quite useful to have it to a standardised form, because sometimes timezones confuse things (you don't know if you're talking about 1.5 days worth vs a part day etc).
Also good other data there like per country testing, if it's published.
https://twitter.com/jack_sommers/status/1241723051181555712
https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1241717349436268546?s=20
Unfortunately, all of the above are signs of DKE-19, a highly contagious illness threatening the response against COVID-19. We must act today to flatten the curve of armchair epidemiology, or we will all be in peril.
https://medium.com/@noahhaber/flatten-the-curve-of-armchair-epidemiology-9aa8cf92d652
We need to be doing so much more, people have proven they are very selfish and won't do the right things unless forced to.
https://twitter.com/SamiZayn/status/1241016024490803208
If those hurdles can be surmounted then the grocers should be able to supply those 1.5m very vulnerable people and every NHS and care home worker with room to spare.
https://twitter.com/JamesTCobbler/status/1241693538523496448?s=20
Either way it is good news, and hopefully all the fast fashion retailers close their doors soon due to failing sales.
It's NOT a quote from Cummings.
It's a summary of what he is alleged to have said. No doubt couched in inflammatory terms to serve an agenda.
Millions unemployed, receiving government handouts. The rest paying 90% of their salary in a super tax. People unable to pay mortgages, homes repossessed, people living in their cars, children without a roof over their head. Food rationing. Violent crime up. Civil unrest.
Because that is where we will be in six months time if we don't get a handle on this.
That starts to scare me more than the headline mortality rate for this thing.