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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,001

    IanB2 said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Yes, I missed out on a slice of profit today by closing some positions too early. At tea time it looked like a wise move, but the markets really tanked towards close and the post-market trading suggests tomorrow won’t be a happy day either. I have added slightly to my sell positions overnight and we’ll see what tomorrow brings....
    Yes I'd like to come back in. Just a question of when. If things pan out as Eadric suggests then we could be a long way from the bottom.
    Longer term, by improving the dependency ratio, one would expect the Corona virus to be good for economic growth - especially on a per capita basis.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,284
    edited February 2020
    eadric said:

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Lol

    I really do think this virus could kill his presidency. Its impact underlines every one of his many faults, and it will have millions of Americans finally thinking: fuckyeah, gimme socialist healthcare

    Edit: even if the tweet is fake
    On the travel forums some Americans seem quite stunned when they find out that testing and treatment in Europe are free. Hardly any wonder that they are not getting very far with testing in the states, after that Miami guy got stung for thousands of $, and he even had insurance.

    Where the states probably will lead the way is with identifying, testing and producing a vaccine. At a price, of course.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    edited February 2020
    glw said:

    Given Trump's twitter history, it is impossible these days to know the true from the fake. It is totally believable he would have tweeted such a thing.
    Some of the stupidest shit I have ever heard has come from Trump's mouth. I genuinely do not personally know anybody as dumb as Trump.
    You may know people who are dumber but hide it better, Trump's main thing is that he's completely oblivious to how dumb he is. But he's also kind of genius about some things, it's an incredibly strange combination, and made for television.
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    eadric said:

    Chameleon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Chameleon said:



    I am concerned about the apparent lack of plans to quarantine towns and cities though.

    Must be odds on to break out in London first with all the public transport used there ?
    Whose up for London being the modern-day Eyam?
    If there's one thing I wouldn't want to be in charge of, it's contact tracing a tube carriage or 10. Once 100 people in London have it, the entire south will have it in a week.
    Surely, once an epidemic is established, we give up tracing contacts? We don’t trace contacts for normal flu. And this is just normal flu with added devilment. The Satan Bug
    I took my girlfriend to Eyam once as a Valentines weekend treat. Nice inn, log fire, walks etc.

    She still goes on about the Valentine's when I took her to a plague village.

    That's nothing, a few years ago I promised my then girlfriend a present no other woman in history had ever received on Valentine's Day.

    I gave her a bottle of toilet duck.
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    Arsenal have well and truly shit the bed here.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125

    eadric said:

    Chameleon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Chameleon said:



    I am concerned about the apparent lack of plans to quarantine towns and cities though.

    Must be odds on to break out in London first with all the public transport used there ?
    Whose up for London being the modern-day Eyam?
    If there's one thing I wouldn't want to be in charge of, it's contact tracing a tube carriage or 10. Once 100 people in London have it, the entire south will have it in a week.
    Surely, once an epidemic is established, we give up tracing contacts? We don’t trace contacts for normal flu. And this is just normal flu with added devilment. The Satan Bug
    I took my girlfriend to Eyam once as a Valentines weekend treat. Nice inn, log fire, walks etc.

    She still goes on about the Valentine's when I took her to a plague village.

    Some women are just immune to romance.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,625

    Sorry, but Storm Jorge. We didn't Brexit for this sort of thing.

    We have to take what the weather gives us. If we had stayed in "Fortress Europe".... :D:D
    I'm content enough to have a storm. But what's with the Jorge?

    Can't we have a solidly British name, like James, Joe or Jaswinder?
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    eadric said:
    They may find it causes problems with people who should be isolated not reporting that they're sick.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,284
    rcs1000 said:

    IanB2 said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Yes, I missed out on a slice of profit today by closing some positions too early. At tea time it looked like a wise move, but the markets really tanked towards close and the post-market trading suggests tomorrow won’t be a happy day either. I have added slightly to my sell positions overnight and we’ll see what tomorrow brings....
    Yes I'd like to come back in. Just a question of when. If things pan out as Eadric suggests then we could be a long way from the bottom.
    Longer term, by improving the dependency ratio, one would expect the Corona virus to be good for economic growth - especially on a per capita basis.
    Certainly worked out that way in the 14th century.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050

    You have to love Burgon...
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125

    Sorry, but Storm Jorge. We didn't Brexit for this sort of thing.

    You just ASSUMED the sunlit uplands wouldn't be surrounded by oceans of water.....
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,001
    eadric said:

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Lol

    I really do think this virus could kill his presidency. Its impact underlines every one of his many faults, and it will have millions of Americans finally thinking: fuckyeah, gimme socialist healthcare

    Edit: even if the tweet is fake
    I agree.

    Two things:

    1. He (and his surrogates) have made a big thing about Coronavirus being fake. You might like his protectionism and his America first rhetoric; but if you got sick and he might have been able to prevent it, you'll be mad as hell.

    2. Trump has to stay away from healthcare. (And the Dems should talk about nothing else).
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,981
    tyson said:

    Foxy said:

    tyson said:

    Foxy said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Surely not. Donald reassured everyone just yesterday...

    One of the most satisfying results of the Virus is seeing all those NHS Consultants who have become preoccupied of late with obsessively monitoring their huge pension funds..now seeing those funds getting decimated...
    Nah, mine is in cash.

    I wasn't kidding about extra life insurance the other day. Actuaries haven't caught up yet!

    We've been hit by well over 100k this week on our investments...probably a lot more capital loss if house prices start tumbling which they will do....

    That said...I'm not about to sell the Big Issue just yet....

    You will get it back pdq, once the woosies realise it is just a chimera they will pile back in and take markets higher than ever.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125
    eadric said:
    "And how is everyone in Pyongyang today? No sniffles? No sore throats? Nobody needing a ventilator today? Good....."
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,477
    edited February 2020
    What a miss by Aubameyang, no wonder he's not spoken in the same class as Salah.

    Aubameyang is a shit Jason Lee.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,284
    edited February 2020
    IshmaelZ said:

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Yes, I missed out on a slice of profit today by closing some positions too early. At tea time it looked like a wise move, but the markets really tanked towards close and the post-market trading suggests tomorrow won’t be a happy day either. I have added slightly to my sell positions overnight and we’ll see what tomorrow brings....
    Yes I'd like to come back in. Just a question of when. If things pan out as Eadric suggests then we could be a long way from the bottom.
    My default case is that this slide will be relatively short lived, but there won’t be a bounce back - either a flat spring or a modest recovery as the virus fades in the sun. Then a torrid autumn when we really do test new lows.

    For the Dow I am sticking by the figure of 24,000-ish for the short term low that I offered up on Tuesday, reflecting the level it held for 2016-17.
    I'd like to think that was right, but I think it highly optimistic. 20,000 in the next fortnight looks on the cards to me.
    Certainly I have 20,000 in view for later in the year. But I detect early signs of panic slowly being replaced with a bit level headedness, and we should remember that markets usually run ahead of events. Plus the weather is our friend. The question is how much damage another week or two of abject panic might do, before sense starts to win through.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    BigRich said:

    This element of the virus obviously makes it even worse...

    A woman in Japan who recovered from coronavirus and was released from hospital has tested positive again. The 40-year-old woman, who was initially infected after working on a tour bus with sightseers from Wuhan, tested positive for a second time yesterday.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8050519/Japanese-tour-bus-worker-recovered-coronavirus-tests-positive-AGAIN.html

    14 PER CENT of coronavirus patients tested positive a SECOND time in one Chinese region, health official admits

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052173/14-CENT-coronavirus-patients-tested-positive-SECOND-time-one-Chinese-region.html

    I have no medical knowledge so please correct me about this.

    As I understand it, vaccines work by giving a very small does of a weekend virus to a person so that the persons immune system gets used to fighting that virus, as a result when the person is attacked by the real virus the immune system has a head start.

    The same principal as not been able to get chicken-pocks or other viruses twice, the immune system has 'learnt' how to fight them'

    If that understanding is correct, but for this virus you can catch it twice, does that mean that a vaccine will not be possible or at least will be a lot harder?

    Don't what to start any panic, just asking.
    I haven’t looked at the data but I suspect we are seeing a latent reservoir effect

    By this I mean the treatment or natural immunity depresses the viral load below the level at which it can be detected. But it’s not cured.

    So we are not seeing reinfections but resurgence in viral load
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    rcs1000 said:

    eadric said:

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Lol

    I really do think this virus could kill his presidency. Its impact underlines every one of his many faults, and it will have millions of Americans finally thinking: fuckyeah, gimme socialist healthcare

    Edit: even if the tweet is fake
    I agree.

    Two things:

    1. He (and his surrogates) have made a big thing about Coronavirus being fake. You might like his protectionism and his America first rhetoric; but if you got sick and he might have been able to prevent it, you'll be mad as hell.

    2. Trump has to stay away from healthcare. (And the Dems should talk about nothing else).
    Or, he will use the virus to engineer a massive anti-china nationalist america first backlash and somehow manage to blame elite lefties like Sanders who let all them brown people in in the first place etc etc.

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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125
    Chameleon said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Chameleon said:



    I am concerned about the apparent lack of plans to quarantine towns and cities though.

    Must be odds on to break out in London first with all the public transport used there ?
    Whose up for London being the modern-day Eyam?
    If there's one thing I wouldn't want to be in charge of, it's contact tracing a tube carriage or 10. Once 100 people in London have it, the entire south will have it in a week.
    Bad for the Tube.

    Decent time for taxis.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    glw said:

    Given Trump's twitter history, it is impossible these days to know the true from the fake. It is totally believable he would have tweeted such a thing.
    Some of the stupidest shit I have ever heard has come from Trump's mouth. I genuinely do not personally know anybody as dumb as Trump.
    You obviously haven't been introduced to Richard Burgon...
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,050
    rcs1000 said:

    eadric said:

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Lol

    I really do think this virus could kill his presidency. Its impact underlines every one of his many faults, and it will have millions of Americans finally thinking: fuckyeah, gimme socialist healthcare

    Edit: even if the tweet is fake
    I agree.

    Two things:

    1. He (and his surrogates) have made a big thing about Coronavirus being fake. You might like his protectionism and his America first rhetoric; but if you got sick and he might have been able to prevent it, you'll be mad as hell.

    2. Trump has do to stay away from healthcare. (And the Dems should talk about nothing else).
    If Conavirus hits the west...the kind of socialist state advocated by Bernie would seem absolutely tame by what the government is actually required to do....
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    CatMan said:
    See. Already Trump is building the its the dem east coast elite's fault.
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    rcs1000 said:

    eadric said:

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Lol

    I really do think this virus could kill his presidency. Its impact underlines every one of his many faults, and it will have millions of Americans finally thinking: fuckyeah, gimme socialist healthcare

    Edit: even if the tweet is fake
    I agree.

    Two things:

    1. He (and his surrogates) have made a big thing about Coronavirus being fake. You might like his protectionism and his America first rhetoric; but if you got sick and he might have been able to prevent it, you'll be mad as hell.

    2. Trump has to stay away from healthcare. (And the Dems should talk about nothing else).
    Agreed. And there could be a second wind come November time, so it’s high risk for him.

    Trump could get on the front foot now with an alternative plan though, and indeed should, but that might require a bit of humility and strategic foresight.
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    tyson said:


    You have to love Burgon...
    He's heading towards National Treasure status at this rate.
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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    eadric said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Yes, I missed out on a slice of profit today by closing some positions too early. At tea time it looked like a wise move, but the markets really tanked towards close and the post-market trading suggests tomorrow won’t be a happy day either. I have added slightly to my sell positions overnight and we’ll see what tomorrow brings....
    Yes I'd like to come back in. Just a question of when. If things pan out as Eadric suggests then we could be a long way from the bottom.
    My default case is that this slide will be relatively short lived, but there won’t be a bounce back - either a flat spring or a modest recovery as the virus fades in the sun. Then a torrid autumn when we really do test new lows.

    For the Dow I am sticking by the figure of 24,000-ish for the short term low that I offered up on Tuesday, reflecting the level it held for 2016-17.
    I'd like to think that was right, but I think it highly optimistic. 20,000 in the next fortnight looks on the cards to me.
    Sick joke deleted. So hard to judge.
    I will spend the rest of my life wondering what the joke was.
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,771
    edited February 2020
    I know talking about Brexit now is a bit pointless, but hey, it's as least funny:

    "Border red tape will mean 50,000 new form-fillers after Brexit"
    https://www.ft.com/content/6cf7bba6-598f-11ea-abe5-8e03987b7b20

    "By the time Britain exits the transition period, the private sector may have hired four times more people to fill in customs forms than the 12,000 people working as fishermen in the UK — the industry that is supposedly one of the big beneficiaries of Brexit."
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,071

    CatMan said:
    See. Already Trump is building the its the dem east coast elite's fault.
    And also the open borders narrative.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,284
    IshmaelZ said:

    eadric said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    In fact, the Dow Jones has just recorded its biggest one-day points fall in history. Down 1,191 points (4.4%) on the day.

    Gobsmacking stuff.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-stock-markets-taken-sick-again-on-speed-of-spread-11944193

    Yes, I missed out on a slice of profit today by closing some positions too early. At tea time it looked like a wise move, but the markets really tanked towards close and the post-market trading suggests tomorrow won’t be a happy day either. I have added slightly to my sell positions overnight and we’ll see what tomorrow brings....
    Yes I'd like to come back in. Just a question of when. If things pan out as Eadric suggests then we could be a long way from the bottom.
    My default case is that this slide will be relatively short lived, but there won’t be a bounce back - either a flat spring or a modest recovery as the virus fades in the sun. Then a torrid autumn when we really do test new lows.

    For the Dow I am sticking by the figure of 24,000-ish for the short term low that I offered up on Tuesday, reflecting the level it held for 2016-17.
    I'd like to think that was right, but I think it highly optimistic. 20,000 in the next fortnight looks on the cards to me.
    Sick joke deleted. So hard to judge.
    I will spend the rest of my life wondering what the joke was.
    It’s the first thing he’s said that has me wondering whether he isn’t SeanT after all....
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,125
    I've lost track. Say Liverpool win the Champions League and Manchester United win the Europa League (bear with me) and Manchester City cannot compete in Europe next year - in that instance, how far down the league could get European football next year?
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    NEW THREAD

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    SeanT is moonlighting as editor of the Daily Mirror?
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,814
    CatMan said:

    I know talking about Brexit now is a bit pointless, but hey, it's as least funny:

    "Border red tape will mean 50,000 new form-fillers after Brexit"
    https://www.ft.com/content/6cf7bba6-598f-11ea-abe5-8e03987b7b20

    "By the time Britain exits the transition period, the private sector may have hired four times more people to fill in customs forms than the 12,000 people working as fishermen in the UK — the industry that is supposedly one of the big beneficiaries of Brexit."

    That's light work for the economically inactive going into Priti's barmy army.

    A few thousand IR35 refugees to put them right and jobs a good 'un.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,999
    glw said:

    Given Trump's twitter history, it is impossible these days to know the true from the fake. It is totally believable he would have tweeted such a thing.
    Some of the stupidest shit I have ever heard has come from Trump's mouth. I genuinely do not personally know anybody as dumb as Trump.
    Indeed his spoof tweets are often more rational than his real ones.
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    sarissasarissa Posts: 1,783

    Foxy said:
    Whatever happens, there is always a Trump tweet for it...
    Nostradonaldus?
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    sarissasarissa Posts: 1,783

    I've lost track. Say Liverpool win the Champions League and Manchester United win the Europa League (bear with me) and Manchester City cannot compete in Europe next year - in that instance, how far down the league could get European football next year?

    AFAIK, an association is limited to one extra place, so down to ninth (unless Villa win on Sunday?)
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