Indeed. Has anything been done about the 6000 Britain First members who claim to have joined the Tories since the election?
Do Britain First even have 6000 memebers?
Apparently 6000 out of 7500 of its members joined the Tories post-election.
That's not an answer to the question of if they even have that number of members to join the Tories. It would be terrible if it is true, but if it is not what action can be taken, yet lack of action would be seen as enabling it?
It won't, first as the DUP are the largest party in Northern Ireland with Unionist Arlene Foster First Minister while the SNP are the largest party in Scotland with Nationalist Nicola Sturgeon First Minister and secondly as Remain voting NI is now little affected by Brexit as it is staying in a soft Brexit in a CU and most of the SM so has less resentment from Remainers than Remain voting Scotland does getting the same hard Brexit as Leave voting England and Wales.
There's these things called "commas". Dead handy they are. Just saying.
Works of the devil never trust them that's what I always say that is a fact.
Highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector
How is that ambiguity comparable to:
"Peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations"?
Why is a second comma necessary to "de-ambiguise" (if that's a word!) the Brexit coin?
Because you can have
"Peace", "Prosperity & Friendship" (2 options)
or you can have
"Peace", "Prosperity" and "Friendship" (3 options)
How are those ambiguous? You are wishing all three items on all nations, no?
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
I was trying to broaden the debate away from the routine anti-left baiting on the issue.
The circumstances under which the Opium Wars started don't show Britain to best advantage but as you and others have said and I cheerfully concede, there's no point judging the actions of the 1840s by the standards and mores of the 2020s.
Equally, I gladly concede every Imperial power is guilty of being as bad if not worse (and I would include American treatment of its native peoples).
Nonetheless, an honest assessment of what we did is a part of the teaching of history and there's a lot of good in there as well. I agree it shouldn't be used as a political football by the Left but nor should it be by the Right dressed up as a uniformly positive experience.
Has Sam been on the blower saying for God's sake please give him a job, he is a total nightmare at home, with that bloody caravan and me having to read all that drivel he keeps writing.
However, it is understood that Mr Cameron turned down the role in recent days, forcing Mr Johnson to lower his ambitions and make a ministerial appointment, which is expected to be announced in the coming days....
53% of British voters were proud of the British Empire to only 19% ashamed in a 2014 Yougov poll. 49% thought it made the colonies better off to only 15% worse off.
34% of voters still wanted Britain to have an Empire, with 45% not wanting the Empire to still exist today.
But, that's a false equivalence. Many were far less brutish than others. It's one reason the East India Company was wound up in the 1850s and control of British India passed to HMG.
In most parts of the Empire the broad policy was to develop responsible self-government. This included India with both legal and educational reforms. Even Ghandi himself was studying law in England in the 1890s, when moves to Indian local government were underway. Responsible Government was given to all of the dominions over the 1920s and 1930s too.
The British Empire was not an empire settled and conquered solely by brute force, as is often characterised. In fact that rarely happened and it was largely acquired by accident, with local colonial officers often having just as much concern for fair administration as people today would in DfID.
These crude judgements applied across history grate my cheese, and it really would help us make better society and better policy if we started to acknowledge the many shades of grey within in and the context of the times.
Perhaps but even that left-winger Michael Portillo has conceded Britain's involvement in the Opium Wars wasn't one of our most honourable actions.
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
This schoolboy debating style of reaching back into history three hundred years to contrive some causal link to the challenges of today is as simplistic as it is nonsensical. Quite aside from being inaccurate it stirs up and reinforces a crude racial divide.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
It is always curious how it is only certain bad stuff in our history that is picked on. So, for instance, those concerned about bigotry and making demands for reparations don’t pick the many years of anti-Catholic laws and prejudices which existed in this country and demand that reparations be paid for that. And, yet, by their own logic, the claim for such reparations is quite as good as that for slavery. Or what about reparations for English actions in Ireland and so on.
To be clear, I don’t support such nonsense. History is what it is. No-one now is responsible for what happened decades or centuries ago. Far better to be taught the history properly and focus on countering evils happening now.
But the selective, self-serving and ignorant understanding of history really annoys me.
Has Sam been on the blower saying for God's sake please give him a job, he is a total nightmare at home, with that bloody caravan and me having to read all that drivel he keeps writing.
I'm told she liked having him home, he's great with the kids, and is keen to make up time lost on the parenting front.
Don't you think if they really have 7000 members when they do their racist rallies they might just get more than a coach load of people?
What they did have for a while was a lot of people sharing their Facebook content, most of which wasn't explicitly Britain First and initially people didn't really know who the group was.
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
Nonetheless, an honest assessment of what we did is a part of the teaching of history and there's a lot of good in there as well. I agree it shouldn't be used as a political football by the Left but nor should it be by the Right dressed up as a uniformly positive experience.
Indeed so. It's messy, and people need to know it's messy. They also need to be more cautious about mythologising things, negatively and positively. We do enough of that with recent history, let alone older stuff.
Has Sam been on the blower saying for God's sake please give him a job, he is a total nightmare at home, with that bloody caravan and me having to read all that drivel he keeps writing.
I'm told she liked having him home, he's great with the kids, and is keen to make up time lost on the parenting front.
Well according to the Telegraph he will be continuing to do so.
Don't you think if they really have 7000 members when they do their racist rallies they might just get more than a coach load of people?
In any event membership of the Tory party goes through a filter of a list of known extremists provided by the police. All parties that I am aware of at least *used* to do this. Hell, when I was helping run a student union, there was help to avoid scumbags of all shapes, sizes and denominations turning up at demos etc.
However, it is understood that Mr Cameron turned down the role in recent days, forcing Mr Johnson to lower his ambitions and make a ministerial appointment, which is expected to be announced in the coming days....
But, that's a false equivalence. Many were far less brutish than others.
It wasn't a false equivalence because I would not dispute the point that some empires were less brutal than others, and that I agree that is something that needs taking into account more along with historical context generally when people try to make assessments. I was merely noting that the attempt at a pun was silly because empire is inherently a brutal process, but I made no equivalence that all empires are the same.
Don't you think if they really have 7000 members when they do their racist rallies they might just get more than a coach load of people?
In any event membership of the Tory party goes through a filter of a list of known extremists provided by the police. All parties that I am aware of at least *used* to do this. Hell, when I was helping run a student union, there was help to avoid scumbags of all shapes, sizes and denominations turning up at demos etc.
Well and as the link I posted said, their leader was rejected. Will some random Joe's that have slipped through, probably.
What are the chances of the China situation causing a world recession?
It will definitely hit the world economy, but based on the proper definition of recession (two consecutive quarters) I really hope that's unlikely. We'll probably see a drop for one quarter due to this but if anything a boost the following quarter after China reopens as businesses try and catch up on backlogs.
That's not to say there won't be a serious impact.
We’ve got a shitload of deals now stacking up out there. All trips cancelled. All our clients are working from home permanently which means they haven’t set eyes on each other for more than a fortnight, never mind their suppliers.
I don't recall celebrating the brutality of the past in any way, nor endorsing any brutality that might exist in the present. But if the past is to be debated, good and bad, and however flawed as no one is an expert on all of history, then it requires more than the written equivalent of soundbites. Individual events can be simply judged, in or out of context. A period, institution or state cannot, but that's what most politicians want when they start this sort of thing.
However, it is understood that Mr Cameron turned down the role in recent days, forcing Mr Johnson to lower his ambitions and make a ministerial appointment, which is expected to be announced in the coming days....
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
Padding "membership" is standard in all such groups - remember the issue with the leaked BNP membership list? Turned out to be more a list of details of people they had scrapped together, many of whom had nothing do with the BNP.
However, it is understood that Mr Cameron turned down the role in recent days, forcing Mr Johnson to lower his ambitions and make a ministerial appointment, which is expected to be announced in the coming days....
Sack Raab and make Dave Foreign Secretary.
I think it is a great idea for former leaders to serve officially in other capacities later, but I think that appointment would be less than optimal.
Don't you think if they really have 7000 members when they do their racist rallies they might just get more than a coach load of people?
In any event membership of the Tory party goes through a filter of a list of known extremists provided by the police. All parties that I am aware of at least *used* to do this. Hell, when I was helping run a student union, there was help to avoid scumbags of all shapes, sizes and denominations turning up at demos etc.
Well and as the link I posted said, their leader was rejected. Will some random Joe's that have slipped through, probably.
The police have very good lists of all types of extremist. We had excellent help from them in my Uni days - various nutters seemed to have a thing for trying to start innocuous sounding groups and societies.
Perhaps but even that left-winger Michael Portillo has conceded Britain's involvement in the Opium Wars wasn't one of our most honourable actions.
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
This schoolboy debating style of reaching back into history three hundred years to contrive some causal link to the challenges of today is as simplistic as it is nonsensical. Quite aside from being inaccurate it stirs up and reinforces a crude racial divide.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
It is always curious how it is only certain bad stuff in our history that is picked on. So, for instance, those concerned about bigotry and making demands for reparations don’t pick the many years of anti-Catholic laws and prejudices which existed in this country and demand that reparations be paid for that. And, yet, by their own logic, the claim for such reparations is quite as good as that for slavery. Or what about reparations for English actions in Ireland and so on.
To be clear, I don’t support such nonsense. History is what it is. No-one now is responsible for what happened decades or centuries ago. Far better to be taught the history properly and focus on countering evils happening now.
But the selective, self-serving and ignorant understanding of history really annoys me.
What about reparations for the Barbary pirates? At one point the US government was paying 1/5th of the national budget in bribes to them (among others).
Doing the usual ignore-proper-comparisons that seem to be the style in such circumstances - they should be getting several Trillion dollars back....
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
Nonetheless, an honest assessment of what we did is a part of the teaching of history and there's a lot of good in there as well. I agree it shouldn't be used as a political football by the Left but nor should it be by the Right dressed up as a uniformly positive experience.
Indeed so. It's messy, and people need to know it's messy. They also need to be more cautious about mythologising things, negatively and positively. We do enough of that with recent history, let alone older stuff.
The police have very good lists of all types of extremist. We had excellent help from them in my Uni days - various nutters seemed to have a thing for trying to start innocuous sounding groups and societies.
I remember listening to an interview with an academic last year, who studies this and said despite the media equivalence of far right / Islamist extremism, in the UK we are talking in the range of 10s of individuals on the radar of authorities as potential violent far right extremists and 100s who are consistently highly active in these extremist online groups that morph from one name to another.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
That's not the debate here though, is it? And, if it was, by the same token, this lady would surely be arguing to pay reparations to China for - err - having the audacity to swipe Hong Kong and handing it back as the one of the wealthiest parts of the world (and free-est part of China) on our departure.
We can find all sorts of events in our history that don't measure up to today's standards. Some were isolated events. Others were not. In many areas there is a positive legacy. In other areas the legacy is decidedly mixed. We can find many more examples in other nations in their past, many (indeed most) far worse and more barbaric.
It's notable that such arguments are always made in generalities: heavy on rhetoric and light on evidence. In this instance she's just lifted some bog standard shibboleths of the marxist Left, added precisely no new thinking of her own (or any thinking at all) and has simply repeated them here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
I was trying to broaden the debate away from the routine anti-left baiting on the issue.
The circumstances under which the Opium Wars started don't show Britain to best advantage but as you and others have said and I cheerfully concede, there's no point judging the actions of the 1840s by the standards and mores of the 2020s.
Equally, I gladly concede every Imperial power is guilty of being as bad if not worse (and I would include American treatment of its native peoples).
Nonetheless, an honest assessment of what we did is a part of the teaching of history and there's a lot of good in there as well. I agree it shouldn't be used as a political football by the Left but nor should it be by the Right dressed up as a uniformly positive experience.
What are the chances of the China situation causing a world recession?
It will definitely hit the world economy, but based on the proper definition of recession (two consecutive quarters) I really hope that's unlikely. We'll probably see a drop for one quarter due to this but if anything a boost the following quarter after China reopens as businesses try and catch up on backlogs.
That's not to say there won't be a serious impact.
We’ve got a shitload of deals now stacking up out there. All trips cancelled. All our clients are working from home permanently which means they haven’t set eyes on each other for more than a fortnight, never mind their suppliers.
Longer term effects should be interesting. The Russia/Ukraine war killed dead alot of near-shoring of IT work to Russia. I was involved in a project where (against my advice, on security grounds), the development was in Russia and the QA was in the Ukraine!
The QAs announced that the code would never, ever pass the tests.
Perhaps diversification of supply chains might be looked at?
53% of British voters were proud of the British Empire to only 19% ashamed in a 2014 Yougov poll. 49% thought it made the colonies better off to only 15% worse off.
34% of voters still wanted Britain to have an Empire, with 45% not wanting the Empire to still exist today.
The old cliche about FF and FG is that their politics are indistinguishable, and voters chose them based only on which side their grandas fought in the Irish Civil War.
I don't recall celebrating the brutality of the past in any way, nor endorsing any brutality that might exist in the present. But if the past is to be debated, good and bad, and however flawed as no one is an expert on all of history, then it requires more than the written equivalent of soundbites. Individual events can be simply judged, in or out of context. A period, institution or state cannot, but that's what most politicians want when they start this sort of thing.
Is there something wrong with modern society when twice as many people are currently watching a bloke play racing simulators from his shed as are watching RLB interview Novara media on the YouTube?
The police have very good lists of all types of extremist. We had excellent help from them in my Uni days - various nutters seemed to have a thing for trying to start innocuous sounding groups and societies.
I remember listening to an interview with an academic last year, who studies this and said despite the media equivalence of far right / Islamist extremism, in the UK we are talking in the range of 10s of individuals on the radar of authorities as potential violent far right extremists and 100s who are consistently highly active in these extremist online groups that morph from one name to another.
The problem with Islamic extremism as opposed to the far-right stuff is fashionability. It is much easier to see the real, dangerous nazi types, since the crowd they run in is much smaller. The problem is that wearing an ISIS supporting tshirt, or making comments in a chat room etc is seen as a bit of rebellion by a number of young people. If you locked all of them up we would have a prison population like the US. Bigger haystack etc...
Is there something wrong with modern society when twice as many people are currently watching a bloke play racing simulators from his shed as are watching RLB interview Novara media on the YouTube?
Yes - they should all be watching a man building a scale model steam engine in his shed.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
The old cliche about FF and FG is that their politics are indistinguishable, and voters chose them based only on which side their grandas fought in the Irish Civil War.
That’s what I thought. Sad, isn’t it! Must be getting past the great-Grandas now, too. I’ve got grandchildren who have the vote.
If people are interesting RLB is doing a long form interview with Novara Media this evening.
When you say, ‘If people are interesting,’ is it a plea for them to go on Novara instead of the third rate retards Sarkar, Peters and Wrong Daily who are usually on it?
I'm sure you’ve all noticed the almighty apocalypse by now? The grounded planes, the chaos in the streets, the unpaid workers, the crippling strikes, the violence, a society in total collapse when stripped of wiser guidance, the faltering economy, the upper class buffoon in charge, the petrol bombs, the riot police, the snipers on rooftops, the tanks on the streets?
I don't recall celebrating the brutality of the past in any way, nor endorsing any brutality that might exist in the present. But if the past is to be debated, good and bad, and however flawed as no one is an expert on all of history, then it requires more than the written equivalent of soundbites. Individual events can be simply judged, in or out of context. A period, institution or state cannot, but that's what most politicians want when they start this sort of thing.
Order of the British Empire?
Purple monkey dishwasher. I can do non-sequiters too.
I don't care if the order is renamed, my only comment on the proposal was that it was gimmicky to raise in a leadership contest. And whether it is or not has nothing to do with my celebration or not.
I don't recall celebrating the brutality of the past in any way, nor endorsing any brutality that might exist in the present. But if the past is to be debated, good and bad, and however flawed as no one is an expert on all of history, then it requires more than the written equivalent of soundbites. Individual events can be simply judged, in or out of context. A period, institution or state cannot, but that's what most politicians want when they start this sort of thing.
Order of the British Empire?
Purple monkey dishwasher. I can do non-sequiters too.
I don't care if the order is renamed, my only comment on the proposal was that it was gimmicky to raise in a leadership contest. And whether it is or not has nothing to do with my celebration or not.
By "celebrate", I didn't mean you personally, I meant officially!
Bloomberg isn’t far off moving into second favourite position.
I’m struggling to see the justification for that, other than he’s not tarnished by Iowa.
Currently he looks like he could beat Trump.
Not a snowball's chance in hell of beating Trump
Why wouldn't Bloomberg have a good chance? I would have a thought that moderate Republians find it much easier to stay at home if it was Bloomberg vs Trump than if it was Sanders vs Trump.
Might struggle to motivate the Democrat base and black voters. Unionised workers may resent his republican past.
In addition to the Democrat base, he would actively repel the New Left (Sanders supporters etc).
Bloomberg would do much better in the general than he'll do in the primaries. In the latter, being the poster child for income inequality as mayor of New York will doom him, if nothing else. As Cory Booker and Kamala Harris have shown, these days it's hard to reinvent your political persona on the fly.
But in the general, he'd have the appeal of an independent while running on a major party ticket.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
FF is also historically the party closest to the Catholic church, for example opposing the divorce amendment FG introduced in the 1980s and also its TDs were more opposed to abortion and gay marriage on the whole than FG TDs.
It only joined the ALDE as FG had already joined the EPP, FG is the more socially liberal party, though FG is more fiscally conservative than FF is
The Dildo Brothers really are sensitive to criticism, nearly as much as Boris Johnson.
A West Ham supporter who wore an anti-board T-shirt while volunteering as a pitchside flag-waver before last week’s game against Liverpool at the London Stadium has been banned by the club from attending any of their matches for the rest of the season.
Cameron Robson took the opportunity to protest against West Ham’s beleaguered board when he volunteered to wave a giant club flag before Liverpool’s 2-0 win. Robson, a season-ticket holder, unzipped his jacket to reveal a T-shirt with the message “GSB OUT” – a reference to the club’s co-owners, David Gold and David Sullivan, and the vice-chair, Karren Brady. He had passed through stadium security while wearing the top under his jacket.
I'm sure you’ve all noticed the almighty apocalypse by now? The grounded planes, the chaos in the streets, the unpaid workers, the crippling strikes, the violence, a society in total collapse when stripped of wiser guidance, the faltering economy, the upper class buffoon in charge, the petrol bombs, the riot police, the snipers on rooftops, the tanks on the streets?
But enough about France.......
[Shamelessly stolen from Facebook]
Only Day 3 and Boris has already played his Joker. If he can't break 50% in the polls with Sir David Attenborough, then the letters will be going in to Sir Graham.....
Boris must think it is a sprint, not a Mini-marathon.....
Am I reading this correct, he not only was involved in the Iowa shit show app, he was also involved in the Obamacare website that was also a disaster at launch? He has also misspelt healthcare.gov as HEATHcare.gov
Am I reading this correct, he not only was involved in the Iowa shit show app, he was also involved in the Obamacare website that was also a disaster at launch?
Am I reading this correct, he not only was involved in the Iowa shit show app, he was also involved in the Obamacare website that was also a disaster at launch?
It's a joke.
And there was me going to give him a call about a developer job ;-)
I didn't initially twig with the reference to Fyre fest or Theranos for some reason. Time for more coffee.
The Dildo Brothers really are sensitive to criticism, nearly as much as Boris Johnson.
A West Ham supporter who wore an anti-board T-shirt while volunteering as a pitchside flag-waver before last week’s game against Liverpool at the London Stadium has been banned by the club from attending any of their matches for the rest of the season.
Cameron Robson took the opportunity to protest against West Ham’s beleaguered board when he volunteered to wave a giant club flag before Liverpool’s 2-0 win. Robson, a season-ticket holder, unzipped his jacket to reveal a T-shirt with the message “GSB OUT” – a reference to the club’s co-owners, David Gold and David Sullivan, and the vice-chair, Karren Brady. He had passed through stadium security while wearing the top under his jacket.
Am I reading this correct, he not only was involved in the Iowa shit show app, he was also involved in the Obamacare website that was also a disaster at launch?
It's a joke.
And there was me going to give him a call about a developer job ;-)
I didn't initially twig with the reference to Fyre fest or Theranos for some reason. Time for more coffee.
Am I reading this correct, he not only was involved in the Iowa shit show app, he was also involved in the Obamacare website that was also a disaster at launch? He has also misspelt healthcare.gov as HEATHcare.gov
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
Good move by Boris as was joining with David Attenborough to announce the end of diesel, petrol and hybrid cars by 2035
Eat your heart out Claire Perry
Obviously Boris has no intention of still being PM in 2035.
As a commitment it is really doesn't come with much risk. Loads of other countries are saying the same, manufacturers have a long lead time and are going this way already and if it gets to 2030 and the infrastructure isn't there to support it, it is dead easy to kick it down the road until 2040 / fudge it slightly.
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
1. Power price is midway between wind and nuclear. Even building in the surf zone.
2. Planning is done for Swansea, largely done for Cardiff. They are but a fraction of the time for a nuclear plant. With good reason. It's mostly building a wall in the surf zone.
3. It is mostly building a wall in the surf zone. Hard to hide the 300% uplift there. (Oil and gas projects required us to build small towns on stilts in the North Sea to survive the 100 year wave. They had a 10% contingency. Exceed that - and you got the role as operator taken off you. This is private sector money we are talking.)
Why are Liverpool playing the U11s team? I know last time it was because all the first team squad were on a different continent, why aren't they just rotating?
Why are Liverpool playing the U11s team? I know last time it was because all the first team squad were on a different continent, why aren't they just rotating?
The FA and PL screwed up the winter break and Klopp's making a point/stand.
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
On the plus side, they're built out at sea where there are very few back gardens, listed buildings and rare species of orchid. The structures seem quite simple, with relatively few pitfalls (compared with nuclear for example). So there's every chance they could come in on budget.
On the previous comment, I think Osborne is still contentious in a way that Cameron is not (perhaps unfairly). Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling might be ok alternatives.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
I imagine in 30 years time someone will discover a LibDem MEP still hiding in a Brussels broom cupboard.
Perhaps but even that left-winger Michael Portillo has conceded Britain's involvement in the Opium Wars wasn't one of our most honourable actions.
hem here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
It is always curious how it is only certain bad stuff in our history that is picked on. So, for instance, those concerned about bigotry and making demands for reparations don’t pick the many years of anti-Catholic laws and prejudices which existed in this country and demand that reparations be paid for that. And, yet, by their own logic, the claim for such reparations is quite as good as that for slavery. Or what about reparations for English actions in Ireland and so on.
To be clear, I don’t support such nonsense. History is what it is. No-one now is responsible for what happened decades or centuries ago. Far better to be taught the history properly and focus on countering evils happening now.
But the selective, self-serving and ignorant understanding of history really annoys me.
What about reparations for the Barbary pirates? At one point the US government was paying 1/5th of the national budget in bribes to them (among others).
Doing the usual ignore-proper-comparisons that seem to be the style in such circumstances - they should be getting several Trillion dollars back....
My take on this is that if you look at Israel or Singapore, they each took an area of poverty with no resources and achieved world leading status in 20 years. So you can blame colonialism for your plight for about two decades. After that you are responsible for your own situation.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
I imagine in 30 years time someone will discover a LibDem MEP still hiding in a Brussels broom cupboard.
I thought non-EU parties like Turkey were part of the European party groups?
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
On the plus side, they're built out at sea where there are very few back gardens, listed buildings and rare species of orchid. The structures seem quite simple, with relatively few pitfalls (compared with nuclear for example). So there's every chance they could come in on budget.
On the previous comment, I think Osborne is still contentious in a way that Cameron is not (perhaps unfairly). Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling might be ok alternatives.
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
1. Power price is midway between wind and nuclear. Even building in the surf zone.
2. Planning is done for Swansea, largely done for Cardiff. They are but a fraction of the time for a nuclear plant. With good reason. It's mostly building a wall in the surf zone.
3. It is mostly building a wall in the surf zone. Hard to hide the 300% uplift there. (Oil and gas projects required us to build small towns on stilts in the North Sea to survive the 100 year wave. They had a 10% contingency. Exceed that - and you got the role as operator taken off you. This is private sector money we are talking.)
Perhaps but even that left-winger Michael Portillo has conceded Britain's involvement in the Opium Wars wasn't one of our most honourable actions.
hem here in a hope to score some easy points and make a name for herself.
I find the motive selfish and the behaviour reprehensible.
It is always curious how it is only certain bad stuff in our history that is picked on. So, for instance, those concerned about bigotry and making demands for reparations don’t pick the many years of anti-Catholic laws and prejudices which existed in this country and demand that reparations be paid for that. And, yet, by their own logic, the claim for such reparations is quite as good as that for slavery. Or what about reparations for English actions in Ireland and so on.
To be clear, I don’t support such nonsense. History is what it is. No-one now is responsible for what happened decades or centuries ago. Far better to be taught the history properly and focus on countering evils happening now.
But the selective, self-serving and ignorant understanding of history really annoys me.
What about reparations for the Barbary pirates? At one point the US government was paying 1/5th of the national budget in bribes to them (among others).
Doing the usual ignore-proper-comparisons that seem to be the style in such circumstances - they should be getting several Trillion dollars back....
My take on this is that if you look at Israel or Singapore, they each took an area of poverty with no resources and achieved world leading status in 20 years. So you can blame colonialism for your plight for about two decades. After that you are responsible for your own situation.
Don't you think those are rather atypical states? Mauritius would be a further example.
There are plenty of other states languishing in poverty, often with deep seated economic injustices from the colonial period.
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
On the plus side, they're built out at sea where there are very few back gardens, listed buildings and rare species of orchid. The structures seem quite simple, with relatively few pitfalls (compared with nuclear for example). So there's every chance they could come in on budget.
On the previous comment, I think Osborne is still contentious in a way that Cameron is not (perhaps unfairly). Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling might be ok alternatives.
Jeremy Corbyn could start in April......
He could. But old Scottish Labour is a good choice.
If not Dave, then Osborne might take it. He was a big supporter of tidal lagoons and instigated the Hendry Review into them.
The problem with tidal lagoons is that
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun 2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that 3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
I imagine in 30 years time someone will discover a LibDem MEP still hiding in a Brussels broom cupboard.
I thought non-EU parties like Turkey were part of the European party groups?
The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe is both a European Political Party under EU regulations, and a wider umbrella group for European Liberals. It was also the name of the Liberal group in the European Parliament until last year when that was renamed "Renew Europe". It's effectively an "international", like the global Liberal International. The LDs and APNI remain members of both the Liberal International and the ALDE. The ALDE has other member parties in the non-EU Balkans, Eastern Europe and Norden.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
The Dildo Brothers really are sensitive to criticism, nearly as much as Boris Johnson.
A West Ham supporter who wore an anti-board T-shirt while volunteering as a pitchside flag-waver before last week’s game against Liverpool at the London Stadium has been banned by the club from attending any of their matches for the rest of the season.
Cameron Robson took the opportunity to protest against West Ham’s beleaguered board when he volunteered to wave a giant club flag before Liverpool’s 2-0 win. Robson, a season-ticket holder, unzipped his jacket to reveal a T-shirt with the message “GSB OUT” – a reference to the club’s co-owners, David Gold and David Sullivan, and the vice-chair, Karren Brady. He had passed through stadium security while wearing the top under his jacket.
So what both Fine Gael and Fianna Fail leaders have said they will refuse to go into Government with Sinn Fein, unlike ironically the DUP in NI have
That's a really short term fix, it leads to a shite coalition that no one wants which will be extremely unpopular and push more votes to SF. It's literally what's happening in Germany with both the CDU and SPD getting hollowed out for the Greens, AfD and Linke.
TBH I’m not sure I can see much difference between FG and FF. Both seem centre-right to me. I suspect that’s another reason SF are doing well. In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
FG is slightly more fiscally conservative than FF but FF is slightly more socially conservative than FG but otherwise little difference between them policy wise.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
FG are the nearest thing to the Tories in the Republic. They are members of the European People's Party in Brussels. FF are actually in the same grouping as our LibDems and Alliance, the ALDE.
We left the European Parliament last week, Sunil. The LibDems have zero MEPs in any group.
I imagine in 30 years time someone will discover a LibDem MEP still hiding in a Brussels broom cupboard.
I thought non-EU parties like Turkey were part of the European party groups?
ALDE is a pan European party, not restricted to the EU.
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The circumstances under which the Opium Wars started don't show Britain to best advantage but as you and others have said and I cheerfully concede, there's no point judging the actions of the 1840s by the standards and mores of the 2020s.
Equally, I gladly concede every Imperial power is guilty of being as bad if not worse (and I would include American treatment of its native peoples).
Nonetheless, an honest assessment of what we did is a part of the teaching of history and there's a lot of good in there as well. I agree it shouldn't be used as a political football by the Left but nor should it be by the Right dressed up as a uniformly positive experience.
https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1224785353015545870
However, it is understood that Mr Cameron turned down the role in recent days, forcing Mr Johnson to lower his ambitions and make a ministerial appointment, which is expected to be announced in the coming days....
In most parts of the Empire the broad policy was to develop responsible self-government. This included India with both legal and educational reforms. Even Ghandi himself was studying law in England in the 1890s, when moves to Indian local government were underway. Responsible Government was given to all of the dominions over the 1920s and 1930s too.
The British Empire was not an empire settled and conquered solely by brute force, as is often characterised. In fact that rarely happened and it was largely acquired by accident, with local colonial officers often having just as much concern for fair administration as people today would in DfID.
These crude judgements applied across history grate my cheese, and it really would help us make better society and better policy if we started to acknowledge the many shades of grey within in and the context of the times.
To be clear, I don’t support such nonsense. History is what it is. No-one now is responsible for what happened decades or centuries ago. Far better to be taught the history properly and focus on countering evils happening now.
But the selective, self-serving and ignorant understanding of history really annoys me.
What they did have for a while was a lot of people sharing their Facebook content, most of which wasn't explicitly Britain First and initially people didn't really know who the group was.
In the North it was Arlene et al refusing to co-operate that caused the log-jam.
Is anyone on the top one?
Doing the usual ignore-proper-comparisons that seem to be the style in such circumstances - they should be getting several Trillion dollars back....
Similarly with the Gaelic.
SF is the main left of centre party in the Republic of Ireland now yes
Eat your heart out Claire Perry
The QAs announced that the code would never, ever pass the tests.
Perhaps diversification of supply chains might be looked at?
The old cliche about FF and FG is that their politics are indistinguishable, and voters chose them based only on which side their grandas fought in the Irish Civil War.
I'm sure you’ve all noticed the almighty apocalypse by now? The grounded planes, the chaos in the streets, the unpaid workers, the crippling strikes, the violence, a society in total collapse when stripped of wiser guidance, the faltering economy, the upper class buffoon in charge, the petrol bombs, the riot police, the snipers on rooftops, the tanks on the streets?
But enough about France.......
[Shamelessly stolen from Facebook]
I don't care if the order is renamed, my only comment on the proposal was that it was gimmicky to raise in a leadership contest. And whether it is or not has nothing to do with my celebration or not.
But in the general, he'd have the appeal of an independent while running on a major party ticket.
It only joined the ALDE as FG had already joined the EPP, FG is the more socially liberal party, though FG is more fiscally conservative than FF is
A West Ham supporter who wore an anti-board T-shirt while volunteering as a pitchside flag-waver before last week’s game against Liverpool at the London Stadium has been banned by the club from attending any of their matches for the rest of the season.
Cameron Robson took the opportunity to protest against West Ham’s beleaguered board when he volunteered to wave a giant club flag before Liverpool’s 2-0 win. Robson, a season-ticket holder, unzipped his jacket to reveal a T-shirt with the message “GSB OUT” – a reference to the club’s co-owners, David Gold and David Sullivan, and the vice-chair, Karren Brady. He had passed through stadium security while wearing the top under his jacket.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/04/west-ham-ban-fan-for-wearing-anti-board-t-shirt-at-pitchside
https://twitter.com/TylerDinucci/status/1224793942190780416
Boris must think it is a sprint, not a Mini-marathon.....
I didn't initially twig with the reference to Fyre fest or Theranos for some reason. Time for more coffee.
1) They cost alot - building in the surf zone is er.... fun
2) You can have a lovely decade long planning enquiry. Lots and lots of lovely people employed in that
3) It's Big Infrastructure. So it would be unfair not to employ one of the firms that will get it done for only 300% of the original estimate.
By contrast Tesla Megapacks are below $300K per MWh and falling. Since they basically a shipping container, you might not even need planning permission to stack them next to your power plant....
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VpPjgfoH-n7Ie8OmIa2eHoP88IvIkBR9wwkUL7bO1Y4/edit#gid=0
First vote
Sanders 27%
Warren 23%
Buttigieg 19%
Klobuchar 13%
Biden 11%
Second vote
Sanders 30%
Warren 26%
Buttigieg 22%
Klobuchar 13%
Biden 8%
At some point during the next 5 years the right will realise it. Probably soon and then frequently.
2. Planning is done for Swansea, largely done for Cardiff. They are but a fraction of the time for a nuclear plant. With good reason. It's mostly building a wall in the surf zone.
3. It is mostly building a wall in the surf zone. Hard to hide the 300% uplift there. (Oil and gas projects required us to build small towns on stilts in the North Sea to survive the 100 year wave. They had a 10% contingency. Exceed that - and you got the role as operator taken off you. This is private sector money we are talking.)
https://twitter.com/mikandynothem/status/1224722621381537793?s=20
Edit - Hurrah for VAR.
On the previous comment, I think Osborne is still contentious in a way that Cameron is not (perhaps unfairly). Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling might be ok alternatives.
https://ww2.sig-ge.ch/sites/default/files/2020-01/20200129_jet_eau_orange_915x545.jpg
There are plenty of other states languishing in poverty, often with deep seated economic injustices from the colonial period.
Tidal lagoons: rare earth metals required 0
https://www.aldeparty.eu/members/member-parties
EDIT Note that countries like Ukraine, Kosovo and Armenia are repesented
https://www.aldeparty.eu/