Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
The problem for Corbyn and labour is heading down the tracks for early next year when the Equality and Human Rights Commission reports
If they find labour guilty of anti semitism the flood gates of anger will break and the compensation claims will be eye watering. The labour party of now will be at an end
Isn't it just a story of tactical voting between LD and Lab (and poss Green) for many of those voters, though? Looking at the below, suggests huge tactical swings possible in remainia:
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
The problem for Corbyn and labour is heading down the tracks for early next year when the Equality and Human Rights Commission reports
If they find labour guilty of anti semitism the flood gates of anger will break and the compensation claims will be eye watering. The labour party of now will be at an end
and a proper working class centrist party can replace them while we dance of the grave of the Labour Party
Verulamius said: "If the Labour vote is not holding up in Great Grimsby, where is it?"
If the Labour Party is thoroughly trounced at this election, what are your views about next Labour leader?
Would conventional wisdom hold - that a replacement left-winger is most likely (e.g. RLB or Pidcock) or would the party lurch towards the middle-ground?
Any idiot Remainer who votes tactically against the Tories and risks this repulsive communist lunacy is a fucking moron who DESERVES to have their nice Home Counties house seized by the Corbynite Wealth Gestapo. Wise up you twats.
Someone or other was predicting an epochal Swinsonian miracle that would see the LDs replace Labour to become the sensible, centre left choice. Is that not happening now?
Clearly not! I noticed a few weeks ago that women, in particular, really dislike her.
I still don’t quite know why. She seems OK to me. I like her accent.
My mum thinks Jo Swinson has the air of a junior office girl
In an over-manned totally inefficient office - the sort who will ask you if you want tea / coffee disappear for 10 mins - and come back with neither.
As opposed to Abbott, who will spill it all over you or Priti Patel, who will charge you rent on the cup, to be paid into a Caymans account?
The cross tabs tell the story in the Great Grimsby poll. Undecideds are disproportionately people who voted Labour in 2017. We've seen this pattern in a number of polls recently.
When they report the headline polls by excluding undecideds, the sample base then becomes one which was more Tory than Labour in 2017.
From a betting perspective, I think that most of those undecideds who voted Labour last time will revert to Labour again, encourged by the Labour/Momentum driven GOTV effort.
Is it enough to flip the seat ?
If they all went Labour it would be very close.
likelihood of that < 1% ?
Of course, but the point remains that while excluding don't knows may tend to make some pollsters more accurate in the final polls, it obviously skews the polling during the campaign. I would expect a significant majority of those undecideds to go back home during the final week.
The problem for Corbyn and labour is heading down the tracks for early next year when the Equality and Human Rights Commission reports
If they find labour guilty of anti semitism the flood gates of anger will break and the compensation claims will be eye watering. The labour party of now will be at an end
Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
When the party that is the most sanctimonious about all the -isms and expects an electoral reward for its moral stance turns out to be full of racists, the political opportunity is served up on a silver platter. It would be a bit like if the Greens were being funded by oil & gas executives, or the SNP membership turned out to be mostly English second-home owners...
Verulamius said: "If the Labour vote is not holding up in Great Grimsby, where is it?"
If the Labour Party is thoroughly trounced at this election, what are your views about next Labour leader?
Would conventional wisdom hold - that a replacement left-winger is most likely (e.g. RLB or Pidcock) or would the party lurch towards the middle-ground?
I still think it's gonna be Thornberry, but that's just me...
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Hi Guys, Anyone knows which online sites or betting shops would accept a cumulative or bankers bet on several constituencies together? I have tried several, but all they allow are single bets, on one Constituency at a time. Thanks
Mel
They are related contingencies so bookies will never offer accumulators on them.
The only exception to this is that occasionally you'll get a special bet on some specific combination, but that will be priced up by the bookie specially.
Richard,
Thanks for the Zero Hours Contract tip for the debate the other day. Paid out very nicely 😎
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Head down to the Coffee Cup and let them know that Corbyn isn't anti-semitic.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
Verulamius said: "If the Labour vote is not holding up in Great Grimsby, where is it?"
If the Labour Party is thoroughly trounced at this election, what are your views about next Labour leader?
Would conventional wisdom hold - that a replacement left-winger is most likely (e.g. RLB or Pidcock) or would the party lurch towards the middle-ground?
If grimsby is accurate, Pidcock wont hold NW Durham
Isn't it just a story of tactical voting between LD and Lab (and poss Green) for many of those voters, though? Looking at the below, suggests huge tactical swings possible in remainia:
Hi Guys, Anyone knows which online sites or betting shops would accept a cumulative or bankers bet on several constituencies together? I have tried several, but all they allow are single bets, on one Constituency at a time. Thanks
Mel
They are related contingencies so bookies will never offer accumulators on them.
The only exception to this is that occasionally you'll get a special bet on some specific combination, but that will be priced up by the bookie specially.
Richard,
Thanks for the Zero Hours Contract tip for the debate the other day. Paid out very nicely 😎
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
Yes belittling the anti apartheid movement like that was a shitty move. I think it's an example of how people on both sides of these high octane Twitter wars lose perspective and end up coming across like a dick. There's a fair amount of it going on here these days too. I'd like to see less hysterical anti-Corbyn guff and more analysis of where we stand on the polling.
It's more horrified by Labour in all its forms. Their racism is just one of many things to attack them on. There are plenty of others, economic incompetence, cosying up to enemies of the country, unpatriotic treachery, inviting terrorists to the HoC, betraying the working class etc etc
That is one full plate, I must say. But to stick to racism. Or more specifically antisemitism, since this is the one being alleged and investigated. Of the above litany of horrors where does that rank for you?
Like, is it a bigger or lesser concern than unpatriotic treachery?
Just watched the IFS assessment of the Labour Manifesto. “Simply not credible” when asked the direct question on whether or not the spending commitments could only be paid for by the top 5%. 80 billion revenue (day to day) spending increases and that doesn’t even include the spending to invest / purchase private industries.
To launch an ambitious programme of such change you need to have the credibility behind it. Does Corbyn and Labour really have that kind of credibility ?
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Great news for our no.3 child who is 18 and recently started working full time after quitting college
Not only will his first vote for labour raise his salary from £12,792 to £20,800, but he will save £1,080 a year with his free under-25s bus travel.
So the advice I seek is, should, we increase his board or would that be taking advantage?
(!)
You may need to increase his board if you have a mortgage as the markets collapse and interest rates rocket taking mortgage rates up with them. You will also need to invest more in your pension as it collapses with the theft of pension fund shares by McDonnell
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
What about the Kipling reading whilst in Myanmar, or his "watermelon smiles" and "piccaninnies" comments?
Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
Using it for less-than-holy purposes does not, however, make it untrue.
All right thinking people do their best to be anti-racist, however imperfect we are at it. But anti -Semitism tends to have a particular place in the thinking of a lot of people for two reasons; the unique nature of the events in Europe as the attempt was seriously made to extinguish Jewish people altogether, and secondly the very high regard which most UK people have for the extraordinary quality of the contribution made to culture, society, media, academia, medicine, commerce and so many other fields by this highly respected and much loved community. I am not Jewish but was brought up in a post war community with many Jewish people in it. Many of us feel this very personally, as we feel the Windrush scandal personally.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
He knew exactly what he was doing - pose as a metropolitan liberal while showing a bit of leg to the armchair racists. Meanwhile in the real world he emboldened thugs and there was an up tick in violence against Muslim women. He refused to apologise. I am surprised you are willing to defend him on this to be honest, it reflects badly on you if I may say so, respectfully.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
twitter.com/toryfibs/status/1148655488529305600
Interesting that he's been so quiet about it in the last three years.
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
Another woman you are happy to bully you cowardly twat.
Still struggling to square the stream of truly dire constituency polls for Labour, when their national numbers are stable and (maybe) dribbling upwards.
Any ideas? [BJO: Yougov is not being controlled by the Tories]
Isn't it just a story of tactical voting between LD and Lab (and poss Green) for many of those voters, though? Looking at the below, suggests huge tactical swings possible in remainia:
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
He knew exactly what he was doing - pose as a metropolitan liberal while showing a bit of leg to the armchair racists. Meanwhile in the real world he emboldened thugs and there was an up tick in violence against Muslim women. He refused to apologise. I am surprised you are willing to defend him on this to be honest, it reflects badly on you if I may say so, respectfully.
He has expressed apolgises over his letter box comments but Boris is farvmore liberal and pro immigration than many think and if he gets his deal passed I expect to see a more generous immigration policy than Theresa May
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
Corbyn must be hoping that by 2040 Brexit and The Tories will have failed, and that his sons and friends' sons and daughters can try again to bring Labour back into power.
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
What else?
Commissions, lots of commissions.
don't mention that word to an IFA please..... we are allergic to those these days...
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
Using it for less-than-holy purposes does not, however, make it untrue.
Of course not. Only the facts of each case are relevant to its truth or otherwise. But you will agree, I'm sure, that the partisan political aspect probably leads to a degree of exaggeration and/or unjustified accusations. That is only to be expected. Ditto if it were the other way, e.g. the Cons being attacked for islamophobia. The politics is a factor and given this is a politics forum I think it's good to acknowledge this.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
He knew exactly what he was doing - pose as a metropolitan liberal while showing a bit of leg to the armchair racists. Meanwhile in the real world he emboldened thugs and there was an up tick in violence against Muslim women. He refused to apologise. I am surprised you are willing to defend him on this to be honest, it reflects badly on you if I may say so, respectfully.
He has expressed apolgises over his letter box comments but Boris is far more liberal and pro immigration than many think and if he gets his deal passed I expect to see a more generous immigration policy than Theresa May
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
What else?
Look at any page at random. My latest random choice landed on page 24, where I found:
Labour will introduce A Right to Food [what the hell is that?]. We will end ‘food bank Britain’. We will ensure everyone has access to healthy, nutritious, sustainably produced food. We will halve food bank usage within a year and remove the need for them altogether in three years. We will establish a National Food Commission and review the Allotments Act. We will make food security a reason to intervene in the economy and work with local councils to minimise food waste.
Food banks wiped out in three years. I wonder if the Trussell Trust know about that?
Those aren't the only humdingers on just that one page.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
What about the Kipling reading whilst in Myanmar, or his "watermelon smiles" and "piccaninnies" comments?
Isn't it just a story of tactical voting between LD and Lab (and poss Green) for many of those voters, though? Looking at the below, suggests huge tactical swings possible in remainia:
Precisely why the LDs will win seats like Guildford and (possibly) Wimbledon. Seats which would not be on the list without tactical voting.
After that labour manifesto, I would say that was more doubtful. That rushing sound you can hear is the sharp intake of breath from tory remainers.
Not here in Guildford. The Tories are split into factions, with many members disgusted by Milton's treatment and the voters (as opposed to members) focused on Surrey Conservative plans to build new towns next to their favourite villages.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
He knew exactly what he was doing - pose as a metropolitan liberal while showing a bit of leg to the armchair racists. Meanwhile in the real world he emboldened thugs and there was an up tick in violence against Muslim women. He refused to apologise. I am surprised you are willing to defend him on this to be honest, it reflects badly on you if I may say so, respectfully.
He has expressed apolgises over his letter box comments but Boris is farvmore liberal and pro immigration than many think and if he gets his deal passed I expect to see a more generous immigration policy than Theresa May
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
Do you think he would make racist comments if he knew it would increase his chances of election? I have little doubt he would.
I think he deliberately tries to get racists think he is racist or at least sympathises with them, whilst also trying to reassure the general population he is not racist.
Different to Corbyn, tolerating leftist anti semites even if he is not directly anti semitic himself, but both are on a similar scale of racism imo.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
As always an interesting read, but I fear the opportunity from those who feel betrayed by the Tory promises this time goes to Corbynism rather than the LD centrists. I agree the new Tory tent is completely unsustainable.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
Why not rebut the story rather than attack the journalist?
Because he supports Corbyn?
Riley is a troll
She isnt a journalist btw
She is a British television presenter and mathematician
You are acting as the troll BJO
She is a toxic and self-indulgent right-wing troll who has erased the suffering of black people in apartheid South Africa to smear Jeremy Corbyn as a racist
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
He is not racist
No he just likes saying racist things.
His 'letter boxes' was stupid but if you read the whole speech you would see his appeal was for tolerance and of course France has much stricter rules
He knew exactly what he was doing - pose as a metropolitan liberal while showing a bit of leg to the armchair racists. Meanwhile in the real world he emboldened thugs and there was an up tick in violence against Muslim women. He refused to apologise. I am surprised you are willing to defend him on this to be honest, it reflects badly on you if I may say so, respectfully.
He has expressed apolgises over his letter box comments but Boris is farvmore liberal and pro immigration than many think and if he gets his deal passed I expect to see a more generous immigration policy than Theresa May
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
Do you think he would make racist comments if he knew it would increase his chances of election? I have little doubt he would.
I think he deliberately tries to get racists think he is racist or at least sympathises with them, whilst also trying to reassure the general population he is not racist.
Different to Corbyn, tolerating leftist anti semites even if he is not directly anti semitic himself, but both are on a similar scale of racism imo.
I do not accept that but am content to wait the report from the EHRC in the new year
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
What else?
Look at any page at random. My latest random choice landed on page 24, where I found:
Labour will introduce A Right to Food [what the hell is that?]. We will end ‘food bank Britain’. We will ensure everyone has access to healthy, nutritious, sustainably produced food. We will halve food bank usage within a year and remove the need for them altogether in three years. We will establish a National Food Commission and review the Allotments Act. We will make food security a reason to intervene in the economy and work with local councils to minimise food waste.
Food banks wiped out in three years. I wonder if the Trussell Trust know about that?
Those aren't the only humdingers on just that one page.
This manifesto is going to receive a worse reception than Theresa's IMO.
Corbyn and McDonnell were given the benefit of doubt in 2017. People looked at them and just refused to believe what they had heard: 'Magic Grandpa and his mate are communists? Nah, look at their little faces. Fake news.'
They will look at them now and go: 'y'know what, they actually are bonkers, racist and in all likelihood, a bit evil too.'
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
As always an interesting read, but I fear the opportunity from those who feel betrayed by the Tory promises this time goes to Corbynism rather than the LD centrists. I agree the new Tory tent is completely unsustainable.
On the other hand the new Labour tent of far-left cranks and antisemites looks totally sustainable...
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
The Conservative manifesto is due out soon (Friday or Saturday??), so hard to be factual about the content as yet.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
The Conservative manifesto is due out soon (Friday or Saturday??), so hard to be factual about the content as yet.
This manifesto is going to receive a worse reception than Theresa's IMO.
Corbyn and McDonnell were given the benefit of doubt in 2017. People looked at them and just refused to believe what they had heard: 'Magic Grandpa and his mate are communists? Nah, look at their little faces. Fake news.'
They will look at them now and go: 'y'know what, they actually are bonkers, racist and in all likelihood, a bit evil too.'
From your lips to God's ears. Labour just couldn't resist pushing the boat out even farther this time - hopefully it will earn them the sinking they deserve.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
So exclude the vast majority on the basis that most antisemitism is from the right wing and therefore opposing it doesn't count for some reason, and say nothing at all to explain the "fine" EDMs like trying to help Yemeni Jews which would make no sense at all for an antisemite to sponsor.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
The Conservative manifesto is due out soon (Friday or Saturday??), so hard to be factual about the content as yet.
Suggested by Sky due on Sunday
Likely to dominate the coverage on Sunday/Monday with postal ballots hitting doorsteps on Monday. Do you think somebody wargamed this?
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
The Conservative manifesto is due out soon (Friday or Saturday??), so hard to be factual about the content as yet.
Suggested by Sky due on Sunday
Likely to dominate the coverage on Sunday/Monday with postal ballots hitting doorsteps on Monday. Do you think somebody wargamed this?
Must say I am very impressed with the Labour manifesto stuff on DWP.
And end to cruel sanctions and an end to the crazy utterly failing system of work assessments. Carers Allowance raised. ESA for those who have been penalised for not being in the long term support group raised.
BJO really has turned into the left version of PlatoSays. The fake news Canary and the dodgy doctor twitter (who has been served more cease and desist notices over his lies than I have had Lib Dem propaganda leaflets) to prove Jezza is the man.
so my executive summary catching up on Lab's launch today is lots of tax for company's and their owners (including self employed Ltd businesses) and that Mcdonnell lied about a windfall tax on Oil companies last week....
What else?
Look at any page at random. My latest random choice landed on page 24, where I found:
Labour will introduce A Right to Food [what the hell is that?]. We will end ‘food bank Britain’. We will ensure everyone has access to healthy, nutritious, sustainably produced food. We will halve food bank usage within a year and remove the need for them altogether in three years. We will establish a National Food Commission and review the Allotments Act. We will make food security a reason to intervene in the economy and work with local councils to minimise food waste.
Food banks wiped out in three years. I wonder if the Trussell Trust know about that?
Those aren't the only humdingers on just that one page.
And as for the stuff on employment...
I am the fundraiser for a Trussell Trust foodbank (we need money as well as food!) Our mission statement is to end poverty in the UK and Trussell Trust does a lot of research in this area. Much as I would love to see Labour achieve its aim I fear their Magic Money Tree is getting as tall as Everest. Apart from that I do believe there will always be short term needs (redundancy, marriage break ups etc). However if someone reforms universal credit that would be a start.
It will be interesting to see how big the Tory magic money tree is. A dose of realistic hope would be good.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
The Conservative manifesto is due out soon (Friday or Saturday??), so hard to be factual about the content as yet.
Suggested by Sky due on Sunday
Likely to dominate the coverage on Sunday/Monday with postal ballots hitting doorsteps on Monday. Do you think somebody wargamed this?
Depends if it's crap or not.
I have a feeling/hope they will have stress tested the manifesto. They should do.
They need a team of people playing devils advocate looking at it before the press/opposition do.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Corbyn isn't a racist, he is simply expedient about racism. Right now, anti-semitism suits his political purposes, and so he tolerates it.
Apologies in advance for this because it's such an obvious comment, but I do think it ought to be made, so why not by me.
Here goes -
And many of Corbyn's biggest critics on this are not truly horrified by racism in all its forms, they are simply being opportunistic. Right now, the charge of antisemitism suits their political purposes and hence they push it for all they are worth.
There will be people doing that. But a problem in the party - and he acknowledges that just not the scale- does not last this long, escalate this much to point of him now being targeted (it was not until last year that many people started saying he personally was anti semitic) on the strength of opponent opportunism alone.
This isn't a no smoke without fire situation, it's an argument about who started the fire, stokes it and how big it is. Opponents will make hay with that, but their cynical commentary on that doesnt render the overall point moot.
Rachel Riley: Corbyn is racist, here’s a photo of him (protesting racism) which I doctored in awful taste to fit my right wing agenda
People: that’s shit Rachel
Rachel: omg I’m being cyber bullied this is digusting can’t believe it I’m a poor white blonde girl leave me alone
This is very unpleasant from you. Riley has been the target of far worse than this, and what really annoys you is she has had the courage to tell the truth about it.
No she changed an image of Corbyn actually opposing Racist Apartheid to one changing the words on the banner to Corbyn is a Racist
She is a troll
Struggling to see what's wrong with that?
Corbyn is a life long anti racist.
Corrected
So when he's not saying that Jews purchase influence and that Jews don't get irony when has he ever without prompting by others been against antisemitism?
Cable street and dozens of EDMs signed suggest otherwise
Johnson on the other hand
Go on lets see some EDMs where he's defended Jews from antisemitism please.
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Comments
If they find labour guilty of anti semitism the flood gates of anger will break and the compensation claims will be eye watering. The labour party of now will be at an end
BTW you are the one supporting a man as PM you know is a racist
"If the Labour vote is not holding up in Great Grimsby, where is it?"
If the Labour Party is thoroughly trounced at this election, what are your views about next Labour leader?
Would conventional wisdom hold - that a replacement left-winger is most likely (e.g. RLB or Pidcock) or would the party lurch towards the middle-ground?
Johnson on the other hand
Thanks for the Zero Hours Contract tip for the debate the other day. Paid out very nicely 😎
Great news for our no.3 child who is 18 and recently started working full time after quitting college
Not only will his first vote for labour raise his salary from £12,792 to £20,800, but he will save £1,080 a year with his free under-25s bus travel.
So the advice I seek is, should, we increase his board or would that be taking advantage?
(!)
Not sure what you mean about Cable Street. The Battle of Cable Street was in 1936 - I know Corbyn is old but I didn't think he was that old.
Like, is it a bigger or lesser concern than unpatriotic treachery?
To launch an ambitious programme of such change you need to have the credibility behind it. Does Corbyn and Labour really have that kind of credibility ?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/23/africa/boris-johnson-africa-intl/index.html
What else?
Get the banks (nudge nudge, wink wink) to pay for it too - win win
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
And economic disaster as a given.
Off to Cinema
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2019/02/25/heres-the-concrete-evidence-to-prove-jeremy-corbyn-is-not-antisemitic/
I do not condone racist comments from anywhere or anyone
Lib Dem:7
Con:5 + canvassing
Lab:0
2017 Con maj 1,657 over Lab
Labour will introduce A Right to Food [what the hell is that?]. We will end ‘food bank Britain’. We will ensure everyone has access to healthy, nutritious, sustainably produced food. We will halve food bank usage within a year and remove the need for them altogether in three years. We will establish a National Food Commission and review the Allotments Act. We will make food security a reason to intervene in the economy and work with local councils to minimise food waste.
Food banks wiped out in three years. I wonder if the Trussell Trust know about that?
Those aren't the only humdingers on just that one page.
And as for the stuff on employment...
A busy few days so little chance to comment.
This election ceased to be a contest when Farage effectively handed it to Johnson and the terms of his "sacrifice" will no doubt emerge in due course. With over 70% of the LEAVE vote safely trousered, the Conservatives have a base of 35% and can watch the REMAIN vote split.
As we know, the Conservative vote is generally the firmest and the LD vote the weakest so the latest MORI numbers came as no surprise to anyone who knows even the slightest thing about politics and elections. Both Labour and LD always struggle to get the vote out where the Conservatives seem to have fewer problems.
As I've said, I don't look forward to the triumphalism on here or the prospect of five years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister. Those who tell me he will govern as a "liberal" are deluding themselves - the manifesto seems all about promising everything to everyone (they all are to be honest).
The new coalition of Brexiteers and anti-Corbynites will get Boris over the line on 12/12 but once the former has happened and the latter is gone it will be interesting just how "loyal" they are to Johnson once he has to deal with the reality of day-to-day Government.
The opportunity for the centrists will be increased by the size of the Conservative majority and the new Tory tent which will eventually collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.
Lefties: This is Very Bad.
Also Lefties: Let us repeat the word 50 million squillion times at every available opportunity. This is Very Good.
I think he deliberately tries to get racists think he is racist or at least sympathises with them, whilst also trying to reassure the general population he is not racist.
Different to Corbyn, tolerating leftist anti semites even if he is not directly anti semitic himself, but both are on a similar scale of racism imo.
Corbyn and McDonnell were given the benefit of doubt in 2017. People looked at them and just refused to believe what they had heard: 'Magic Grandpa and his mate are communists? Nah, look at their little faces. Fake news.'
They will look at them now and go: 'y'know what, they actually are bonkers, racist and in all likelihood, a bit evil too.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50501807
And end to cruel sanctions and an end to the crazy utterly failing system of work assessments. Carers Allowance raised. ESA for those who have been penalised for not being in the long term support group raised.
DWP is broken. Time for change.
Which I'm afraid from the perspective of all people of sound mind and good character is unambiguously Very Bad.
It will be interesting to see how big the Tory magic money tree is. A dose of realistic hope would be good.
They need a team of people playing devils advocate looking at it before the press/opposition do.
Every small company would shut down overnight as it would no longer be profitable to run. Cheaper to operate as a sole trader.
You really think an AS would go to all this trouble condemning AS on 50 different occasions
This isn't a no smoke without fire situation, it's an argument about who started the fire, stokes it and how big it is. Opponents will make hay with that, but their cynical commentary on that doesnt render the overall point moot.