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  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    148grss said:

    GOP: How are you going to pay for all these *squints* things that will help average people.

    GOP: War, hoo, haw, what is it good for, lots and lots of money.

    https://twitter.com/ally_harp/status/1194629730814685185

    Not really

    They’ve included interest costs, care costs etc that would have arisen anyway plus all homeland security plus a chunk for “future cost of care”

    Basically made up
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited November 2019
    nichomar said:

    Anorak said:

    Why hasn't JC been doing to the rallies in the parks and conference centres and arenas like in 2017? The tub-thumping speeches were instrumental in energising his base and creating a powerful progressive narrative.

    This time? Crickets & tumbleweed.

    Can't see a surge coming unless footage emerges of Johnson throwing a migrant child into the channel.

    Possibly the weather
    Hah! Well he is getting on a bit, and that old injury from being arrested at the anti-apartheid protest does play up in the damp.

    The real answer, of course, is seem by his miserable popularity ratings, particularly among the 18-25 group.
  • Charles said:

    148grss said:

    GOP: How are you going to pay for all these *squints* things that will help average people.

    GOP: War, hoo, haw, what is it good for, lots and lots of money.

    https://twitter.com/ally_harp/status/1194629730814685185

    Not really

    They’ve included interest costs, care costs etc that would have arisen anyway plus all homeland security plus a chunk for “future cost of care”

    Basically made up
    Still a lot of money for a failed policy.
  • timmotimmo Posts: 1,469

    Brom said:

    anecdote from Labour held marginal Croydon Central

    https://twitter.com/moguloilman/status/1194970977706348544

    Labour voters probably all at work.
    The way the Tories are canvassing though is very targeted so he probably wouldnt have expected to have seen a lab voter anyway
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,627

    Gabs2 said:

    It's all going swimmingly. Not enough Irn Bru and tartan scarves obvs.

    https://twitter.com/wavefmnews/status/1194922168766861313?s=20

    but I thought Jeremy Corbyn was good at these things.

    One of the 50 cent crew told me so just yesterday.
    Did you watch the video? He handled it very well.
    No, he didn't. He cut the guy off time and time again in a patronising manner and appealed to the pro-Corbyn minority in the room to shut him up.
    Let me get this straight, you think the right response to a heckler is not to cut them off?
    Sadly, our political discourse has now descended to the point where dealing with hecklers is something that party leaders and senior politicians are going to have to get used to - and good at.

    It used to be that there would be the occasional newspaper intern in a chicken suit, or perhaps a random member of the public a politician would bump into during a campaign, but it’s now much more organised and, rather like on Question Time, political opponents will make a habit of following them around heckling. Remember it was only nine years ago that the ‘bigoted woman’ on an unexpectedly open mic did for Gordon Brown.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,627

    9 years of Tory NHS management:

    image

    Worst Cancer figures ever since records began too. Every target missed.

    Never trust the Tories with the NHS
    Never trust a centralised and socialist medical system run by politicians, trust the much better systems in place in literally every other country in the developed world*

    * (except the USA, where the system is equally political and equally screwed).
  • NooNoo Posts: 2,380
    Sandpit said:

    9 years of Tory NHS management:

    image

    Worst Cancer figures ever since records began too. Every target missed.

    Never trust the Tories with the NHS
    Never trust a centralised and socialist medical system run by politicians, trust the much better systems in place in literally every other country in the developed world*

    * (except the USA, where the system is equally political and equally screwed).
    What's "socialist" about the NHS, please?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,627
    Noo said:

    Sandpit said:

    9 years of Tory NHS management:

    image

    Worst Cancer figures ever since records began too. Every target missed.

    Never trust the Tories with the NHS
    Never trust a centralised and socialist medical system run by politicians, trust the much better systems in place in literally every other country in the developed world*

    * (except the USA, where the system is equally political and equally screwed).
    What's "socialist" about the NHS, please?
    Everything?
  • NooNoo Posts: 2,380
    Sandpit said:

    Noo said:

    Sandpit said:

    9 years of Tory NHS management:

    image

    Worst Cancer figures ever since records began too. Every target missed.

    Never trust the Tories with the NHS
    Never trust a centralised and socialist medical system run by politicians, trust the much better systems in place in literally every other country in the developed world*

    * (except the USA, where the system is equally political and equally screwed).
    What's "socialist" about the NHS, please?
    Everything?
    So, is it owned by its workers?
  • viewcode said:

    tlg86 said:

    BBC: Prime Minister Boris Johnson tells the BBC the A&E waiting time figures released today- which are the worst since records began -“is basically caused by the huge demand that there is on the NHS".

    So it is our fault for daring to have accidents and encounter medical emergencies.

    If you ever to A&E (I haven't been in one since I was 10, but know other people who have been quite recently), there are plenty of people there who really ought not to be there.
    I have. Last five years. Unpleasant circumstances. It is not easy to say who is malingering and who is not. Top tip: if you need to go, best do it around 3am. It's still staffed and the queues are much shorter.
    I had my second ever visit (when not escorting injured pupils) on Tuesday. I’m still here (not in A&E but on one of the wards).
    Hope you recover and are 100% soon! :smile:
    Thanks! I am getting the full NHS experience.
  • olmolm Posts: 125

    alb1on said:

    Sean_F said:

    Tim Walker exposing divisions within Liberal party about opposing remoaner candidates in Labour party on SKY News

    I agree with Tim.

    Why stand down for Tories Grieve and Soubry who haven't an earthly of winning but not for Duffield.

    Asking for a friend who thinks it's because Swinson is a Tory.
    The Lib Dems don't see themselves as the rural wing of the Labour Party.
    But would stand down in Canterbury if Labour agreed to stand down in, say, Guildford. No? What a surprise.
    When Labour lose the election will they commit to PR (by STV, no party lists thank you) ?
    I hope so, but doubt it.
    Labour alas have a taste for undiluted power it seems, still, maybe you're right that will dissipate. (Brings to mind Trudeau in Canada, his party promised PR, they won the penultimate election and then (perhaps realising they could win and didn't need PR) changed their minds.

    Btw, STV is not very proportional.

    MMP (like the Scottish Parliament uses) is proportional and also allows voters to vote for named candidates, and then tops up seats from lists to make the vote proportional.
    'MMP+' STV for seats with Leveling seats to provide proportionality seems a good way forward (similar to Scotland/London but with STV for the main seats).

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