Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Breakfast TV showed Starmer admitting Labour had no credible policy on Brexit.
Labour going "nah nah nah , not listening" on Brexit is what will be remembered longer term from today.
You've been watching the Tories' fake video.
Seems to me it was a pretty accurate reflection of the laughable confusion that is Labour's Brexit policy.
Not talking about it wont make it go away, you know. You're not 10.....
Bizarrely, Labour's policy, as described by Corbyn this morning, is easy to understand, if only he would accept the inevitable consequence of the process he describes.
Post GE, he will campaign for Remain or his own new deal depending on the vote of a special conference of members. I can't see any way that conference wont vote for a Remain campaign.
Curious to see Boris “Fuck Business” Johnson losing it in the telegraph.
Calling Corbyn a Stalinist is not "losing it". Arguably he is quite a lot worse....
Er, Corbyn worse than Stalin?!
Stalin wasnt an idiot.
Corbyn with nukes anyone? Except he wont use them on anyone except our allies....
I deeply dislike Corbyn (partly because of things people praise him on, like supposedly not changing his views over many decades) and do not understand what about him in particular people get so adoring about, but even though he takes advice from people who said very stupid things about Stalin, he is definitely never ever going to be as bad as Stalin, idiot or no.
Malignant and foolish is worse than just malignant. The difference between Corbyn , Mcdonnell et al and Stalin is one between time and opportunity, not intent or capability.
These are not cuddly social democrats and those who dont understand that understand little...
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Breakfast TV showed Starmer admitting Labour had no credible policy on Brexit.
Labour going "nah nah nah , not listening" on Brexit is what will be remembered longer term from today.
You've been watching the Tories' fake video.
Seems to me it was a pretty accurate reflection of the laughable confusion that is Labour's Brexit policy.
Not talking about it wont make it go away, you know. You're not 10.....
Bizarrely, Labour's policy, as described by Corbyn this morning, is easy to understand, if only he would accept the inevitable consequence of the process he describes.
Post GE, he will campaign for Remain or his own new deal depending on the vote of a special conference of members. I can't see any way that conference wont vote for a Remain campaign.
Corbyn is just can kicking to keep Seamus happy.
Because Corbyn, Milne etc are committed Brexiteers.
Anyone who gives a fuck about what Stormzy thinks isn't going to consider voting Tory anyway. Though the lesson should be noted. Put JRM and the rest of his idiot crew in a box.
No, but this kind of thing might get the youth out to vote. I say 'might'.
Nah, the youth don't give a flying fuck about Grenfell. Green issues, jobs, housing and student debt forgiveness. I hire a lot of 20-28 year olds as juniors and these are the concerns. Grenfell doesn't even break the top 20.
Tories need to lock JRM in a cupboard, and go around the UK brandishing a chequebook PDQ if they want to start clawing it back, they're having a disaster thus far.
"Boris Johnson is on track to win Labour bastions such as Bolsover and Tony Blair's former Sedgefield seat at the election, shock poll analysis shows
Findings come from a seat-by-seat sample of 46,000 Britons for Best for Britain Tories would pick up a swathe of currently Labour-voting seats in the North But they risk losing affluent Remain seats like Cheltenham to the Lib Dems"
If the tories are relying on this to win a majority, they are stuffed...it aint going to happen. Remember last time with all those flat cap working mens club types saying jezza fucking commie, will vote tory for the first time ever, yadda yadda and then....they didn't.
Labour's vote has been in decline for a long, long, time, in urban areas outside of the big cities, in the North and Midlands. I expect that Ashfield and Bishop Auckland will fall.
But that's not saying much. Bolsover and Sedgefield are a different kettle of fish.
Who is opinion new and how did it get the poll? I'm sure there will be a tight poll soon to scare the horses if nothing else and survation seen a likely candidate
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
The hoo ha over the apparently suppressed report on Russian attempts to interfere in UK politics is curious.
1. They been at it for decades as the Soviet Union and now Russia 2. We know Putin's Russia liked Brexit because it upset the odd applecart 3. We know that standard Russian intelligence tradecraft is to cultivate people across the political spectrum. 4. We already know of alleged links with a number of UK politicians or campaigners
Whats new?
The only thing that's going to move any dial is if it names names, proper names.
The “Opinion Bee” link to Survation may well be legit but this is what a fake poll could look like and later in the campaign it could move the market. Troubling.
Edit - if it’s fake they’ve gone to quite a lot of trouble on the “Opinion Bee” website.
The hoo ha over the apparently suppressed report on Russian attempts to interfere in UK politics is curious.
1. They been at it for decades as the Soviet Union and now Russia 2. We know Putin's Russia liked Brexit because it upset the odd applecart 3. We know that standard Russian intelligence tradecraft is to cultivate people across the political spectrum. 4. We already know of alleged links with a number of UK politicians or campaigners
Whats new?
The only thing that's going to move any dial is if it names names, proper names.
Agreed. So why is Boris allowing a story to be created out of it by suppressing publication?
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
Tory vote actually up on that Survation even if it is true, movement almost all LD to Labour
I think people should only really be reporting from tweets / links to the polling companies themselves or the media outlet or britain elects (which we know.are legit).
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
Tory vote actually up on that Survation even if it is true, movement almost all LD to Labour
The hoo ha over the apparently suppressed report on Russian attempts to interfere in UK politics is curious.
1. They been at it for decades as the Soviet Union and now Russia 2. We know Putin's Russia liked Brexit because it upset the odd applecart 3. We know that standard Russian intelligence tradecraft is to cultivate people across the political spectrum. 4. We already know of alleged links with a number of UK politicians or campaigners
Whats new?
The only thing that's going to move any dial is if it names names, proper names.
Agreed. So why is Boris allowing a story to be created out of it by suppressing publication?
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
Tory vote actually up on that Survation even if it is true, movement almost all LD to Labour
It's now been removed from the Wikipedia site...
Fake poll
Could be real, just that someone linked the wrong URL. No sign of it on Survation though...
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
The time for Labour to panic was along time ago...
I think people should only really be reporting from tweets / links to the polling companies themselves or the media outlet or britain elects (which we know.are legit).
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
I'm sure Corbyn's numbers will rise. But, probably not by enough.
Almost the Tories' worse nightmare. LDs too. If it is borne out.
If voters really do return en masse to Labour then Boris will have fallen for the same arrogant presumption as May did, for the same reason, and this time cost Brexit entirely. We shall see whether he can turn things around, momentum wise, once the campaign kicks off.
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
Tory vote actually up on that Survation even if it is true, movement almost all LD to Labour
Bit of a shocker for the Tories if that Survation poll is correct. It doesn't really tally with the YouGov London poll we had earlier which was pretty good for the Conservatives and bad for Labour.
Tory vote actually up on that Survation even if it is true, movement almost all LD to Labour
It's now been removed from the Wikipedia site...
Fake poll
Could be real, just that someone linked the wrong URL. No sign of it on Survation though...
The link on the Opinion Bee website links to the previous Survation poll from late October. So, it might be real. And it might not be real.
The data tables still have the date from the 29-30 Oct Survation poll. Confident it is a fake.
It's depressing if people really are putting fake polls out. Even two years ago no-one tried to do this on any scale. (Apologies if it's correct).
Yes, it is depressing. Of course today we have the Tories putting out a fake video of Keir Starmer not responding to a question he did answer. Fakery abounds. With the fake video technology now becoming possible there is potential for this to get a lot worse if people don't choose to rein it in.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
I'm sure Corbyn's numbers will rise. But, probably not by enough.
I think they won't rise by as much as before, but the Tories will not achieve what they did before either, so the latter may cancel out the former.
"Boris Johnson is on track to win Labour bastions such as Bolsover and Tony Blair's former Sedgefield seat at the election, shock poll analysis shows
Findings come from a seat-by-seat sample of 46,000 Britons for Best for Britain Tories would pick up a swathe of currently Labour-voting seats in the North But they risk losing affluent Remain seats like Cheltenham to the Lib Dems"
If the tories are relying on this to win a majority, they are stuffed...it aint going to happen. Remember last time with all those flat cap working mens club types saying jezza fucking commie, will vote tory for the first time ever, yadda yadda and then....they didn't.
Labour's vote has been in decline for a long, long, time, in urban areas outside of the big cities, in the North and Midlands. I expect that Ashfield and Bishop Auckland will fall.
But that's not saying much. Bolsover and Sedgefield are a different kettle of fish.
This is the problem with the JRM `Etonian elite' label that dogs the Tories.... the image of posh southerners lording it up (remember the photo in HoC) will swing those BREXIT minded voters straight to BXP and not to the Conservatives in precisely those seats
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
The time for Labour to panic was along time ago...
Perhaps, but they could justifiably hope that the campaign would see them rise, as it did last time. If that does not happen in the first few weeks, at least showing they are moving in the right direction, then even some true believers may start to doubt. In a few polls it has happened already, though not to the degree of this apparently fake one.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
When was the last time the Tories actually had a good GE electioneering day? Probably in 2015 when Ed Miliband said on national TV that he didn't think Labour 97-2010 had overspent.
Edstone Day was a good one. Well, a good laugh anyway.
The Cairns story actually looks more serious than the Moggster.
If I understand it right, the man convicted of rape appealed, and only recently was his appeal rejected, so the details can now be reported. This is why the story has suddenly come out at Election time, although it all happened some time ago.
Again, if I understand right, the judge seems to have written to Cairns to state that his protege Ross England collapsed the rape trial to try and protect his friend. Nonetheless, Cairns supported Ross England's application to be a Welsh Assembly candidate.
If my understanding is right, it looks as though Cairns may actually be in some trouble. Ross has fallen on his sword, but it may not be enough.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
I'm sure Corbyn's numbers will rise. But, probably not by enough.
I think they won't rise by as much as before, but the Tories will not achieve what they did before either, so the latter may cancel out the former.
I think this time round, the Tory/Brexit Party vote is very sticky, in the mid to high forties.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
When was the last time the Tories actually had a good GE electioneering day? Probably in 2015 when Ed Miliband said on national TV that he didn't think Labour 97-2010 had overspent.
Edstone Day was a good one. Well, a good laugh anyway.
We shall never see its like again. Oh, what hilarity it was, and the knowledge that so many people cleared it too.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
I'm sure Corbyn's numbers will rise. But, probably not by enough.
I think they won't rise by as much as before, but the Tories will not achieve what they did before either, so the latter may cancel out the former.
I think this time round, the Tory/Brexit Party vote is very sticky, in the mid to high forties.
I actually agree, broadly speaking. But fortunately for Labour and the LDs that vote cannot be counted together!
The data tables still have the date from the 29-30 Oct Survation poll. Confident it is a fake.
It's depressing if people really are putting fake polls out. Even two years ago no-one tried to do this on any scale. (Apologies if it's correct).
Yes, it is depressing. Of course today we have the Tories putting out a fake video of Keir Starmer not responding to a question he did answer. Fakery abounds. With the fake video technology now becoming possible there is potential for this to get a lot worse if people don't choose to rein it in.
The hoo ha over the apparently suppressed report on Russian attempts to interfere in UK politics is curious.
1. They been at it for decades as the Soviet Union and now Russia 2. We know Putin's Russia liked Brexit because it upset the odd applecart 3. We know that standard Russian intelligence tradecraft is to cultivate people across the political spectrum. 4. We already know of alleged links with a number of UK politicians or campaigners
Whats new?
The only thing that's going to move any dial is if it names names, proper names.
Agreed. So why is Boris allowing a story to be created out of it by suppressing publication?
We do not know, unless it names names
They didn’t give a very good reason, so it must be more damaging to their campaign than the fun their opponents will have asking why it’s suppressed , also more damaging released now than leaked half way through because possibility of that will have to have been considered.
That’s really disappointing. I’d tend to trust Wikipedia in “boring, geeky, results aggregator” mode, albeit I would check for the primary source If I was going to bet, on the basis that no one would bother to ruin it. I now have to ignore it.
Hmm. Sounds like BS to me. I wonder if someone did this in order to gain a few (thousand) quid on the betting markets? Might be worth seeing if there were any large bets/trades in the half-hour that Opinion Bee put that fake poll up.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
When was the last time the Tories actually had a good GE electioneering day? Probably in 2015 when Ed Miliband said on national TV that he didn't think Labour 97-2010 had overspent.
Edstone Day was a good one. Well, a good laugh anyway.
We shall never see its like again. Oh, what hilarity it was, and the knowledge that so many people cleared it too.
Lets not forget the Elvis impersonator at that Labour event
That’s really disappointing. I’d tend to trust Wikipedia in “boring, geeky, results aggregator” mode, albeit I would check for the primary source If I was going to bet, on the basis that no one would bother to ruin it. I now have to ignore it.
No need to over-react. It's pretty reliable on the whole, we just need to do a sense check if any new poll seems to be indicating a shift.
That’s really disappointing. I’d tend to trust Wikipedia in “boring, geeky, results aggregator” mode, albeit I would check for the primary source If I was going to bet, on the basis that no one would bother to ruin it. I now have to ignore it.
No need to over-react.
Not to overreact would be a violation of PB byelaws I'm afraid.
Pleasant dreams to all, of Tory landslides, of Corbyn miracles and everything in between.
Almost the Tories' worse nightmare. LDs too. If it is borne out.
If voters really do return en masse to Labour then Boris will have fallen for the same arrogant presumption as May did, for the same reason, and this time cost Brexit entirely. We shall see whether he can turn things around, momentum wise, once the campaign kicks off.
"Boris Johnson is on track to win Labour bastions such as Bolsover and Tony Blair's former Sedgefield seat at the election, shock poll analysis shows
Findings come from a seat-by-seat sample of 46,000 Britons for Best for Britain Tories would pick up a swathe of currently Labour-voting seats in the North But they risk losing affluent Remain seats like Cheltenham to the Lib Dems"
As usual, it's best to read Mail articles from the bottom up, because that's where they put the bits they want to downplay. Here the final lines are:
"Prof Hanretty, who is known for producing constituency-level estimates of the Leave vote in the 2016 referendum, cautioned that it was 'hard to evaluate the accuracy of the estimates without knowing a lot more about the model'.
But analysis of a large poll sample using a similar technique gave a prediction that closely matched the 2017 election result."
Which would be interesting. But I'm not clear if they're just talking about last week's findings (Summary: tactical voting will stop Johnson, lack of it will fail) or new findings.
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
When was the last time the Tories actually had a good GE electioneering day? Probably in 2015 when Ed Miliband said on national TV that he didn't think Labour 97-2010 had overspent.
Edstone Day was a good one. Well, a good laugh anyway.
We shall never see its like again. Oh, what hilarity it was, and the knowledge that so many people cleared it too.
For those who want to know what a bad day REALLY looks like....
Tories telling Nick Watt that they have had a "truly dreadful day".
Well, they have.
They need less of these in the coming weeks. The Tory battleship is looking a bit leaky this evening.
I don't think they have had anything but crap days since the campaign started.
The public has already made up their mind about Corbyn.
In 2017 he gained voters he never had, now he has to gain voters he has previously lost. Rarely do voters leave and then return to a PM. His work is cut out.
Corbyn is no longer a blank canvass though, is he. The public has made up its mind.
Voters arent going back to him in any numbers,
How do we know? We're a few days in at best. He's starting, personal numbers wise, from lower than last time, there's reasoning to suggest he cannot turn things around, but I'd want to see a week or so and if he cannot raise the Lab share in that time at all, then Labour can start to panic.
I'm sure Corbyn's numbers will rise. But, probably not by enough.
I think they won't rise by as much as before, but the Tories will not achieve what they did before either, so the latter may cancel out the former.
I think this time round, the Tory/Brexit Party vote is very sticky, in the mid to high forties.
I actually agree, broadly speaking. But fortunately for Labour and the LDs that vote cannot be counted together!
No, if TBP are in the 15-20% range, Labour could easily win. If they're kept down at 10% or so, it's hard to see anything other than a Tory win.
It would be useful if each of the pollsters could let people know when their next poll is due out, but I suppose they sometimes like to keep the fact that they have another poll in the pipeline a secret for various reasons.
The data tables still have the date from the 29-30 Oct Survation poll. Confident it is a fake.
It's depressing if people really are putting fake polls out. Even two years ago no-one tried to do this on any scale. (Apologies if it's correct).
Yes, it is depressing. Of course today we have the Tories putting out a fake video of Keir Starmer not responding to a question he did answer. Fakery abounds. With the fake video technology now becoming possible there is potential for this to get a lot worse if people don't choose to rein it in.
Big mistake by the Tories to manipulate the video IMO.
Objectively, it’s been a terrible day for the Tories.
Alan Cairns, possibly a resigning matter. No Deal back on the table. Fake videos of opponents. Grenfell victim-blaming. Suppression of the Russian interference report. A former Chancellor finally throws the towel in.
The media haven’t picked up the narrative though. I think people are so depressed by Corbyn and so unimpressed by Swinson that the Tories win by default.
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Post GE, he will campaign for Remain or his own new deal depending on the vote of a special conference of members. I can't see any way that conference wont vote for a Remain campaign.
Corbyn is just can kicking to keep Seamus happy.
These are not cuddly social democrats and those who dont understand that understand little...
*have been owned by
Tories need to lock JRM in a cupboard, and go around the UK brandishing a chequebook PDQ if they want to start clawing it back, they're having a disaster thus far.
Fair to say that the Tories have a large number of Labour seats within range - it's certain that they'll pick up at least twenty of them. Because of differential swing it could be many more. http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/conservative
https://twitter.com/AndyFoxWAVY/status/1191848066552385536?s=19
1. They been at it for decades as the Soviet Union and now Russia
2. We know Putin's Russia liked Brexit because it upset the odd applecart
3. We know that standard Russian intelligence tradecraft is to cultivate people across the political spectrum.
4. We already know of alleged links with a number of UK politicians or campaigners
Whats new?
The only thing that's going to move any dial is if it names names, proper names.
Edit - if it’s fake they’ve gone to quite a lot of trouble on the “Opinion Bee” website.
https://twitter.com/OpinionBee/status/1191850959640641543?s=20
It's pretty quiet.
https://www.survation.com/archive/2019-2/
Edit: no different numbers.
Fake poll
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I'm going Tories 6, LDs 5, Labour zero, SNP 48
What's your thinking this time round?
I am thinking around 50 - 51
Apologies, they normally tweet reliable stuff. I'll stick to Britain Elects from now on.
If voters really do return en masse to Labour then Boris will have fallen for the same arrogant presumption as May did, for the same reason, and this time cost Brexit entirely. We shall see whether he can turn things around, momentum wise, once the campaign kicks off.
Don’t want to be the source of anyone being misled and I can’t alter it now.
I don't have enough information to make a call.
is it safe to come out from behind the sofa yet ?If it becomes building state sector and social services post austerity election they could actually lose the election?
Why did they vacate the battleground today? They’ve been pushing for the GE, where have they been?
Jacob Rees Mogg
The bloke that runs the Opinion Bee Twitter feed
A Welsh Tory
The Cairns story actually looks more serious than the Moggster.
If I understand it right, the man convicted of rape appealed, and only recently was his appeal rejected, so the details can now be reported. This is why the story has suddenly come out at Election time, although it all happened some time ago.
Again, if I understand right, the judge seems to have written to Cairns to state that his protege Ross England collapsed the rape trial to try and protect his friend. Nonetheless, Cairns supported Ross England's application to be a Welsh Assembly candidate.
If my understanding is right, it looks as though Cairns may actually be in some trouble. Ross has fallen on his sword, but it may not be enough.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/05/tories-unrepentant-about-doctored-video-of-keir-starmer-tv-appearance
Almost as delicious as the squirming Swinson interview when she was called on it.
Another golden moment
Pleasant dreams to all, of Tory landslides, of Corbyn miracles and everything in between.
"Prof Hanretty, who is known for producing constituency-level estimates of the Leave vote in the 2016 referendum, cautioned that it was 'hard to evaluate the accuracy of the estimates without knowing a lot more about the model'.
But analysis of a large poll sample using a similar technique gave a prediction that closely matched the 2017 election result."
Which would be interesting. But I'm not clear if they're just talking about last week's findings (Summary: tactical voting will stop Johnson, lack of it will fail) or new findings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39880463/edstone-is-spotted-in-an-outdoor-seating-area-at-a-restaurant-in-london
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's the Boris Johnson influence.
Alan Cairns, possibly a resigning matter.
No Deal back on the table.
Fake videos of opponents.
Grenfell victim-blaming.
Suppression of the Russian interference report.
A former Chancellor finally throws the towel in.
The media haven’t picked up the narrative though.
I think people are so depressed by Corbyn and so unimpressed by Swinson that the Tories win by default.