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Shows the People's Vote marchers are increasingly out of touch
If the deal fell and 2nd ref was announced do you think that polling would stay same or flip in big way?
However, this poll confirms no deal would have to be on the ballot. You cannot forget 19% of the electorate and the support for deal - no deal - remain referendum would be interesting
If it won, we’d be in the exact same position as we are now with no idea of what version of no deal the people want.
Think rationally.
The point with a referendum isn't that it's a lot of people's preferred option in itself. What it does is deal with the fact that the two most popular options are remain (38%) and exit with this deal (30%) but neither are close to a majority in the country, and both are challenging with the Parliamentary arithmetic. So it's a pragmatic way out.
At 9.13am on the 21st October 1966, 116 children and 28 perished at the school and homes at Aberfan
And just 8 days later our first son was born and it was such an emotional time across the Nation
Unicorn No Deal should not be on the ballot.
Indeed Farage would be in the Supreme Court immediately if his party was so disenfranchised
This is just another example of remain trying to influence the ballot for their own cause
It was very upsetting with us celebrating our first born with a whole community grieving the loss of their children.
It is Dominic Grieves policy and he will have a big input if it happens
Indeed he said in a recent interview 'it has to be on the ballot'
I am warming to the idea of Boris deal v a CU brexit on the ballot. Does it not honour 2016, point us in clear achievable direction out the impasse, but also leave all to play for and in touching of all directions people would wish to argue and take us?
A judicial view would be launched preventing the implementation
How do you feel about it being Dominic Grieve policy
Is watering down pay and conditions in order to be competitive post brexit really secured never to happen by being in the WA, therefore issue moving it out WA to PD?
Or is there always potential for us to diverge post brexit to low tax low regulation libertarian pirate island regardless what is in the WA and PD too?
How much of a lock on future post brexit government is the WA?
All he cares about is his stupid deadline . Of course if he thinks that won’t happen he’ll ditch the bill and play the martyr.
I can think of no one, that has the status and the trust that Boris's side have in him (do not believe in the trust thing look at the above 51% think we will leave on 31st Oct).
I suppose Femi will put his hand up to take the beating.
"Hell yeah I'm Tory. If Jeremy Corbyn becomes Prime Minister, I'm leaving the country...."
You can never tell what is waiting behind that front door. One reason I love canvassing.....
He would not say it if he did not believe it
All loathe Corbyn. Some will vote LD as a result: others will hold their noses and vote Labour anyway.
Why? Because, viewed objectively, he's a Tory plant. Totally out of touch with ordinary people, he's just another attitudinising posho. Only far more malevolent
Then again, people have been able to determine the worthiness, or not, of the much long WA, within minutes, or sometimes even in advance!
The Boris Deal is clearly the acceptable compromise for most voters
https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1185485189914464256?s=20
I am not surprised the remain camp are kicking off as it does give a referendum a whole new meaning and no doubt a headache for the electoral commission
As with all things Brexit nothing is as simple as it seems
Any option will be very unpopular with millions upon millions of people. We can argue with which one will be the most popular, but quibbling 'viability' seems like another con trick about how things will be easy with picking another option. Easier, I believe that. But all options will provoke fury.
The reason Gina Miller succeeded was because there was a claim that rights granted to UK citizens via an Act of Parliament could not be taken away other than by another Act of Parliament. The Supreme Court agreed with that. Nigel Farage saying "Oi! My preferred option should be on the ballot." does not create a legal claim as far as I can see. Happy to be told how I may be wrong on this.
You are I think confusing politics with law. There may be a good reason politically to have this option on the ballot. (I disagree but that's by the by.) There is no legal reason for having it on the ballot if Parliament decides otherwise.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/epib6jirg7/YouGov - Brexit deals Results.pdf
As below showing total and % including DK(with previous poll from 14/15 October in brackets: total with % both including and excluding DK/Non-Voters):
i.e.
Con: 439 26.0% (430, 26.5%, 37%)
Lab: 264 15.6% (259, 15.9%, 22%)
LD: 227 13.4% (213, 13.1%, 18%)
BXP: 127 7.5% (131, 8.1%, 11%)
Total 1689 100% (1625, 100%)
Depending on how much of the balance is other parties as opposed to DK/NV, I judge that the headline VI will (if it is ever published) be something like Con 36, Lab 21.5, LD 18.5, BXP 10, Green 6
However, the panic from remainers is not surprising and when having a go at me, they need to listen to Dominic Grieve. He is the one who said it
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Withdrawing the extension request increases the chance of No Deal if the WAB overruns as it probably will. Hence Letwin's amendment.
Gove is pretending there is still a risk of No Deal. There isn't. An extension will be offered and accepted. Gove is playing games with our money. £millions.
I said:
I think that a sense of perspective is required. The cost of an extension is in excess of £200m a week. That's quite a lot of money so some pontificating liars can run their fantasies just one more time. I mean its not as if what is laughably called a debate is going to change a single mind or vote is it? No one is even pretending that.
The concern on the Labour side, as I understand it, is any level playing field requirements are only in the PD and therefore will depend on what might be agreed in future. They are not guaranteed, as they were in May's WA. So once out a British government could change any of the rules on workers' rights, environmental standards etc if so minded. They could change them by watering them down or increasing them of course. What would happen would be in the control of the British Parliament.
Labour's concern is really that they fear Tory policies and it shows that they think that the Tories would win any election.
What neither have fully grasped is that both parties will be constrained by what may be necessary to achieve those fabled trade deals. But that is another story that no-one is much focusing on at the moment.
Not one of @SeanT's best frankly.
I'd like to identify these people so I don't accidentally hire them.
Committee stage will be rushed through tomorrow! This could backfire spectacularly.