If the DUP oppose the deal, hopefully Boris will claw back the billion or so that they extorted from TM for preventing Corbyn becoming Prime Minister in 2017. With interest. And surcharges.
Why ? They delivered on the bribe. They have given confidence and have supplied their votes for budgets. They were never paid for Brexit votes.
But isn't the law that does this - I think it was called the What Could Possibly Go Wrong Act (2017) still on the books? Can the government just cough and say "hey look at that brexit deal" and everybody quietly forgets about it or does something need to actually be repealed?
Do I understand this correctly, we can keep any exports in the SM and CU by shipping them via Northern Ireland? I.e. if I want to export to continental Europe, I ship via Belfast and get into the SM and CU by the back door? I’m sure that is wrong, but can someone summarise?
No, except for small personal items, EU duty is to be paid on entry to NI and reclaimed from NI HMRC. Presumably they would want to be certain the goods were not crossing the border. At least that is my understanding.
So NI is effectively remaining in the EU and there’s a duty watershed in the Irish Sea? Wow. That’s a much more EU-friendly deal than I expected.
But, of course, NO DUTIES to be paid if goods were coming into NI from Slovakia !
Do I understand this correctly, we can keep any exports in the SM and CU by shipping them via Northern Ireland? I.e. if I want to export to continental Europe, I ship via Belfast and get into the SM and CU by the back door? I’m sure that is wrong, but can someone summarise?
No, except for small personal items, EU duty is to be paid on entry to NI and reclaimed from NI HMRC. Presumably they would want to be certain the goods were not crossing the border. At least that is my understanding.
So NI is effectively remaining in the EU and there’s a duty watershed in the Irish Sea? Wow. That’s a much more EU-friendly deal than I expected.
The DUP never got any money, it was spent on infrastructure projects in the north to the benefit of all people in Northern Ireland, an area of the UK that is struggling economically
Do I understand this correctly, we can keep any exports in the SM and CU by shipping them via Northern Ireland? I.e. if I want to export to continental Europe, I ship via Belfast and get into the SM and CU by the back door? I’m sure that is wrong, but can someone summarise?
No, except for small personal items, EU duty is to be paid on entry to NI and reclaimed from NI HMRC. Presumably they would want to be certain the goods were not crossing the border. At least that is my understanding.
So NI is effectively remaining in the EU and there’s a duty watershed in the Irish Sea? Wow. That’s a much more EU-friendly deal than I expected.
But, of course, NO DUTIES to be paid if goods were coming into NI from Slovakia !
The tariff mechanism for Northern Ireland is akin to how VAT works for exports, with everyone in the supply chain able to claim it back with the exception of the last seller (in this case if it’s sold into the Republic).
The checks at the GB ports are said to be focused only on goods most likely to be exported on to the republic or where there is regulatory divergence between GB and EU. Since Northern Ireland is still in the UK customs union incoming goods to Britain would only require checks to the extent the UK government was concerned about non compliant goods entering the UK (post regulatory divergence).
In essence the EU is accepting a degree of low level tariff smuggling but that an intelligence led approach is fine (as it is today for VAT). It’s all entirely sensible.
Northern Ireland would NOT be “effectively remaining in the EU”, this is a total mischaracterisation. It retains regulatory alignment for goods but not services, and appears to have less movement to tinker with VAT as GB will have. That’s about it.
Some say this weakens Northern Ireland’s place in the union and will inevitably lead to reunification. There’s a counter argument that economically Northern Ireland will now be in a fairly unique sweet spot that it’s voters will not willingly give up. Full access to the EU Single Market for goods, minimal intrusion in its ability to sell into the UK single market, while simultaneously able to benefit from any new UK trade deals.
If you do the comparison with the council elections in 2019, then the changes are: Labour +1.0 Green -4.6 LibDem +3.2 Conservative +1.6 No Liberal (-1.1%) as previously. Which is a similar sort of picture, but with a smaller rise in the Labour share.
Wow a Tory rise in vote share in Liverpool is huge news. 200+ seat majority nailed on.
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https://twitter.com/TERBreizhGo/status/1185043115377332224?s=20
https://twitter.com/iamb/status/1184958437064527872
But isn't the law that does this - I think it was called the What Could Possibly Go Wrong Act (2017) still on the books? Can the government just cough and say "hey look at that brexit deal" and everybody quietly forgets about it or does something need to actually be repealed?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/uk-lost-gdp-growth-brexit-deal-passed-official-estimates
The DUP never got any money, it was spent on infrastructure projects in the north to the benefit of all people in Northern Ireland, an area of the UK that is struggling economically
The checks at the GB ports are said to be focused only on goods most likely to be exported on to the republic or where there is regulatory divergence between GB and EU. Since Northern Ireland is still in the UK customs union incoming goods to Britain would only require checks to the extent the UK government was concerned about non compliant goods entering the UK (post regulatory divergence).
In essence the EU is accepting a degree of low level tariff smuggling but that an intelligence led approach is fine (as it is today for VAT). It’s all entirely sensible.
Northern Ireland would NOT be “effectively remaining in the EU”, this is a total mischaracterisation. It retains regulatory alignment for goods but not services, and appears to have less movement to tinker with VAT as GB will have. That’s about it.
Some say this weakens Northern Ireland’s place in the union and will inevitably lead to reunification. There’s a counter argument that economically Northern Ireland will now be in a fairly unique sweet spot that it’s voters will not willingly give up. Full access to the EU Single Market for goods, minimal intrusion in its ability to sell into the UK single market, while simultaneously able to benefit from any new UK trade deals.