Clever slogan. "Get Ready". Makes it sound exciting. A blockbuster movie you can't wait to see. The start of the Ashes. The ETA of the A list celeb to the party. And subliminally a feelgood motown song. Nice one by Gove.
Clever slogan. "Get Ready". Makes it sound exciting. A blockbuster movie you can't wait to see. The start of the Ashes. The ETA of the A list celeb to the party. And subliminally a feelgood motown song. Nice one by Gove.
Get Ready for that root canal you've been putting off.
I seem to be in a minority. People are overreacting.
I agree. I think Boris was stupid and wrong to do this but to equate it with fascism is equally stupid and wrong. I wonder if those making these claims think Atlee and Major were also fascists?
For the record they were equally stupid and wrong but agsin they weren't fascists.
Corbyn supported disruptive protests? Angry mobs shouting at the Leader of the House’s kids? Remainers still talking about process? Cummings must think it’s Christmas.
This. About x100 likes.
Allotment Man has walked straight into the trap. Unbelievable.
Depends if we are one of those tipping point moments. If there truly is a level of outrage at recent events that is crossing beyond just the usual suspects, then people crossing the line a bit in reaction to those events will get more of a pass, particularly if enough people truly believe that the path Boris has set us on is genuinely damaging and must be stopped.
He suffers delusion if he thinks by encouraging violence and disruption it will win him anything. Indeed it is very likely to lose him support from those he is appealing to
He suffers delusion if he thinks by encouraging violence and disruption it will win him anything. Indeed it is very likely to lose him support from those he is appealing to
I seem to be in a minority. People are overreacting.
I agree. I think Boris was stupid and wrong to do this but to equate it with fascism is equally stupid and wrong. I wonder if those making these claims think Atlee and Major were also fascists?
For the record they were equally stupid and wrong but agsin they weren't fascists.
Can you take a tweet from a man who did this seriously?
He suffers delusion if he thinks by encouraging violence and disruption it will win him anything. Indeed it is very likely to lose him support from those he is appealing to
I seem to be in a minority. People are overreacting.
I agree. I think Boris was stupid and wrong to do this but to equate it with fascism is equally stupid and wrong. I wonder if those making these claims think Atlee and Major were also fascists?
For the record they were equally stupid and wrong but agsin they weren't fascists.
Neither believed in "Creative Destruction" and that wrecking the UK was a laudable goal.
He suffers delusion if he thinks by encouraging violence and disruption it will win him anything. Indeed it is very likely to lose him support from those he is appealing to
Creative Destruction?!! Now there's a slogan to go into a General Election with - but for the Conservative Party?!
Eat your heart out, Anarchists. Take a hike, Commie Bastards. You want creative destruction, join the Conservatives!!!
I mean this is the sort of stuff we joked about as a parody of the leavers. Extraordinary. How will it go down on the doorstep? God only knows surely we Brits are more sensible than that.
They said the same in Thatcher's day too.
Creative destruction is a very Conservative belief, not like command and control statists in other parties.
What fantasy planet are you on? I remember Mrs Thatcher and, whilst I disliked her, she was at least reliable and honest. She believed in reform and enabling ownership. Destruction to rebuild would be nearer to Michael Foot and Militant Tendancy.
What are you talking about?
Creative destruction is the central plank of a free market economy. That companies, even industries, even major names can go bust and out of the ashes will arise newer and better roles. The end of jobs for life replaced with evolution and a dynamic survival of the fittest.
Thatcher's day saw three million unemployed, a deep manufactoring recession, taking on the vested interests of the mining industry, privatisations, the death or divestment of the "picked winners" and instead allowing private competitors to flourish.
Expect to be around a bit more after Brexit when the same old arguments have disappeared.
After Brexit? We might all be dead by then...
I remain confident that Brexit will be concluded this year. There won’t be a Tory party left otherwise...
You're missing the point though. There are two scenarios here 1) in the unlikely event we remain, the tories will be an avowedly exit party. there will be more of the same over and over and over again. 2) we exit, in some form, and there will then be another 3 years negotiating the 'future relationship' after which the tories will say it's still not good enough and we end up back here. on top of that you'll have the remain labour people and the lib dems fighting a guerilla war against exit in the same manner that the likes of IDS did in the 90's and 00's
You're missing the point. When the sky comprehensively fails to fall in after October 31, the jig will be up for remainerism, and the more sensible ones know it, which is why they're trying so desperately to stop it now.
After an exit, especially if it causes a crisis in confidence in the economy and thus a recession, there will still be a significant number of people who will want back in. there will be a similar guerrilla warfare to get us back in. that is what I said.
there will be no such thing as 'remainer' once we've actually left but there will be a rejoin movement. This is the folly of the Leavers in charge, they think that an exit will make the other side go away. it won't.
I also suspect that following a no-deal exit the EU will be consistent with the red lines that they've already set out and as such the leavers won't like or vote for any continuing relationship treaty because it's not a 'real exit'.
If I cannot be a "Remainer" then I shall certainly become a "Rejoiner" and push for Schengen and the Euro.
IMO, Boris and his coterie of Nationalists and wreckers are fast pushing the UK towards "Failed state" status. He is already taking the first steps towards dictatorship by avoiding public scrutiny as much as possible (no interviews!!) and closing down Parliament for as long as he can.
I winder when he will get around to abolishing it?
Bozo failing to do interviews, and not putting up ministers to defend his suspension of democracy shows the contempt that he has for the voting public.
Democracy and mass peaceful protests haven't worked.
Creative Destruction?!! Now there's a slogan to go into a General Election with - but for the Conservative Party?!
Eat your heart out, Anarchists. Take a hike, Commie Bastards. You want creative destruction, join the Conservatives!!!
I mean this is the sort of stuff we joked about as a parody of the leavers. Extraordinary. How will it go down on the doorstep? God only knows surely we Brits are more sensible than that.
They said the same in Thatcher's day too.
Creative destruction is a very Conservative belief, not like command and control statists in other parties.
What fantasy planet are you on? I remember Mrs Thatcher and, whilst I disliked her, she was at least reliable and honest. She believed in reform and enabling ownership. Destruction to rebuild would be nearer to Michael Foot and Militant Tendancy.
What are you talking about?
Creative destruction is the central plank of a free market economy. That companies, even industries, even major names can go bust and out of the ashes will arise newer and better roles. The end of jobs for life replaced with evolution and a dynamic survival of the fittest.
Thatcher's day saw three million unemployed, a deep manufactoring recession, taking on the vested interests of the mining industry, privatisations, the death or divestment of the "picked winners" and instead allowing private competitors to flourish.
What is that if not creative destruction?
"...Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,..."
Point 1: The pathetic inaction of Hancock, Javid and Rudd speaks volumes about their integrity - they deserve humiliation for their arse licking. Along with many other Tory MPs for backing a known liar. As a wise man once wrote "Million-to-one chances...crop up nine times out of ten."
Point 2: I voted remain and was prepared to accept a sensible Brexit, but there have been zero attempts made to compromise with remain voters by the leave side. There have been no sensible arguments presented for Brexit beyond magical trade deals (that will be massively disadvantageous to us due to desperation), sovereignty (that we still had many vetoes over), and "the will of the people" (which polls at the time regularly showed both a lack of understanding of the consequences of Brexit, and a lack of favour for the nuclear option).
Point 3: I've never been particularly politically excitable until recently, people with grand visions scare me. It is noticeable that Brexit has morphed from something that will make us richer by escaping EU protectionism into something "that must be done" simply because Farage and the English nationalists in the Tory party wish it to be so. I refuse to "believe in Britain" as if we're somehow special simply because some fat, lying sack of shit ex-journo who threatened to get someone beaten up tells us to. We aren't special, and haven't been for at least 75 years.
I almost want the Brexit cult to get their wish for a dystopian no deal so that we can see them become a laughing stock and be put on trial (in as high a profile way as possible) for being lying scumbags more interested in their hedge funds than the wellbeing of the nation. The only things that stop me are that I don't want Scotland and NI to leave the UK and the likely significant economic damage, both short and long-term.
Expect to be around a bit more after Brexit when the same old arguments have disappeared.
After Brexit? We might all be dead by then...
I remain confident that Brexit will be concluded this year. There won’t be a Tory party left otherwise...
You're missing the point though. There are two scenarios here 1) in the unlikely event we remain, the tories will be an avowedly exit party. there will be more of the same over and over and over again. 2) we exit, in some form, and there will then be another 3 years negotiating the 'future relationship' after which the tories will say it's still not good enough and we end up back here. on top of that you'll have the remain labour people and the lib dems fighting a guerilla war against exit in the same manner that the likes of IDS did in the 90's and 00's
You're missing the point. When the sky comprehensively fails to fall in after October 31, the jig will be up for remainerism, and the more sensible ones know it, which is why they're trying so desperately to stop it now.
Afterit'.
If I cannot be a "Remainer" then I shall certainly become a "Rejoiner" and push for Schengen and the Euro.
IMO, Boris and his coterie of Nationalists and wreckers are fast pushing the UK towards "Failed state" status. He is already taking the first steps towards dictatorship by avoiding public scrutiny as much as possible (no interviews!!) and closing down Parliament for as long as he can.
I winder when he will get around to abolishing it?
Bozo failing to do interviews, and not putting up ministers to defend his suspension of democracy shows the contempt that he has for the voting public.
Democracy and mass peaceful protests haven't worked.
Parliament can still stop him. Your tilting toward violent protest is beginnging to look downright eager and is quite worrying.
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For the record they were equally stupid and wrong but agsin they weren't fascists.
He suffers delusion if he thinks by encouraging violence and disruption it will win him anything. Indeed it is very likely to lose him support from those he is appealing to
I do not like the word but boy is he thick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6i-gYRAwM0
Of course not
However, suggestions are that it is looking close, and Alex Cole Hamilton has been getting his excuses in early on Twitter.
I'd expect LD hold with a greatly reduced majority. An SNP win here would be hilarious.
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1167194546469507072
Creative destruction is the central plank of a free market economy. That companies, even industries, even major names can go bust and out of the ashes will arise newer and better roles. The end of jobs for life replaced with evolution and a dynamic survival of the fittest.
Thatcher's day saw three million unemployed, a deep manufactoring recession, taking on the vested interests of the mining industry, privatisations, the death or divestment of the "picked winners" and instead allowing private competitors to flourish.
What is that if not creative destruction?
Monarchy = Socialism!
Despite the stirring a non Tory, anti Brexit, unconservative republican like you may do
Democracy and mass peaceful protests haven't worked.
https://twitter.com/BarbaraTasch/status/877476950541033472
If Johnson ennobles a hundred peers to filibuster stuff in the Lords will that venerable institution also suffer the same fate as Her Majesty ?
The Holy Bible, NIV, Book of Malachi 4.1-4.3