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  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    why are some PBers proving that Shapps has not eliminated all the tapes they said he had.. stupido
  • Telegraph running a story where Ken Livingstone accuses Brown et al of cowardice in facing up to budget problems and running up debt.

    Add that to Straw going on about spectacular mistakes with immigration and you have to wonder whether it's loose lips week for Labour.
  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391
    Bobajob said:

    Apologies – there now seem to be no fewer than FOUR pictures of Ozzy on this thread!

    Aaaaaaaaargh!

    Oh man, what have you done, the thread's suddenly gone Gidders crazy!

    Surely this breaches some site rules, Moderators, is repeat posting of Ozzy's bubbling mug not against the rules, this is a family site!
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Telegraph running a story where Ken Livingstone accuses Brown et al of cowardice in facing up to budget problems and running up debt.

    Add that to Straw going on about spectacular mistakes with immigration and you have to wonder whether it's loose lips week for Labour.

    Perhaps the Labour press office is too busy measuring the space under a bus and comparing it to the girth of various members of staff..
  • Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/
  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391
    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2EmVGowCk

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
  • tim said:

    Many moons ago I was a member of Thoresby Colliery's junior brass band (I even won a trophy for playing the cornet!) -Do you think George will let me have some coal?

    He might give you his helmet when he's finished down that shaft.

    Already got one of those and a miners lamp from plunder when my dad's pit shut!!
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Plan to measure happiness 'not woolly' - Cameron

    Prime Minister David Cameron has insisted his £2m plan to measure the nation's happiness is not "woolly".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11833241


    Cameron slams fat cat bosses as it is revealed they have awarded themselves a massive 49 per cent pay hike

    City firms to pay out £4.2billion this year in bonuses
    Shell making £4.4billion in three months as oil prices soar
    Average earnings has now hit £2.7million

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054424/Cameron-slams-fat-cat-bosses-revealed-awarded-massive-49-cent-pay-hike.html
    How would the amusing Shapps put it? "He has announced the creation of a ministry of supreme social happiness and stepped up controls on "profiteers"? ;)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Many moons ago I was a member of Thoresby Colliery's junior brass band (I even won a trophy for playing the cornet!) -Do you think George will let me have some coal?

    Maybe, but Ed Davey won't allow you to burn it.
    Just wait till Caroline Flint and Ed Miliband are back in charge of the nation's energy ;) !
  • Actually my Dad did get this coal allowance - It used to get dumped on the driveway and my dad made us bloody shovel it into the boiler room!! Would have preferred the money!!
  • Not sure if this has been mooted before but how about this for a wheeze. ....Lab win a majority, lower the voting age to 16, reintroduce EMA and run future campaigns along tbe lines of

    "Vote for us or the nasty Tories will stop your pocket money?

    Get 'em dependent, get 'em entitled, get ' em young.
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536
    R0berts said:

    Bobajob said:

    Apologies – there now seem to be no fewer than FOUR pictures of Ozzy on this thread!

    Aaaaaaaaargh!

    Oh man, what have you done, the thread's suddenly gone Gidders crazy!

    Surely this breaches some site rules, Moderators, is repeat posting of Ozzy's bubbling mug not against the rules, this is a family site!
    If I should hang my head in shame, have a word with Tim – who has just increased the body count to FIVE.

    Mods!!!!!

  • TGOHF said:

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
    As Len McCluskey's found out the hard way.....and if Len can't trust him - who can?

  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391

    TGOHF said:

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
    As Len McCluskey's found out the hard way.....and if Len can't trust him - who can?

    House!
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536
    Mornington Crescent.
  • @UKELECTION2015 tweets:

    LAST NIGHTS VOTE SHARE

    LAB 27.4% +1.1%
    UKIP 22.8% +15.9%
    CON 19.5% +1.6%
    OTH 15.1% -3.1%
    IND 7.4% -15.1%
    LIBDEM 4.4% +2.4%
    GREEN 3.4% -2.8%

    So good news for UKIP & bad news for Independents.....but otherwise flat....
  • Yes. It's one of five things referred to obliquely (deficit, not debt) on the party's website and Cameron apparently referred to it in his speech (which I can't remember anything about, in which I'm probably not alone). As I say, barely mentioned these days, for reasons we both know - (a) the debt is still going up briskly and (b) the public are not really engaged on the issue.

    But perhaps you can point out speeches on the subject made by leading Tories in the last two weeks, say? Perhaps they're just under-reported?
    Is the Prime Minister this week recent enough and leading enough for you?

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/11/david-cameron-milibands-labour-poses-the-same-old-danger/

    ‘The single biggest threat to the cost of living in this country is if our budget deficit and debts get out of control again. If interest rates and mortgage rates start to soar, the increase in cost of living will far outweigh the impact of any increase in government spending or indeed reduction in taxation.’

    It's a bit desperate on the part of Labour loyalists to think that this theme is going to be dropped. As the Spectator comment, "David Cameron’s speech at the Lord Mayor’s banquet yesterday evening rehearsed some basic political arguments that will be honed between now and 2015." Get used to it.
  • Cameron surrounded by differing demos in Sri Lanka - those protesting the current Sri Lankan government, those complaining about crimes under Colonial rule. Who were in power when Ceylon got independence?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    R0berts said:

    TGOHF said:

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
    As Len McCluskey's found out the hard way.....and if Len can't trust him - who can?

    House!
    I only got a line - I had tim's Morrison's reference but was a Latvian homophobe away from a full house.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Who were in power when Ceylon got independence?

    Always with the relevant questions.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
  • Neil said:

    R0berts said:

    TGOHF said:

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
    As Len McCluskey's found out the hard way.....and if Len can't trust him - who can?

    House!
    I only got a line - I had tim's Morrison's reference but was a Latvian homophobe away from a full house.
    What has happened to the Latvian homophobes? Do you think they married gays?

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    I cannot believe that the four innocent Marines from the Afghan murder case are going to have their names published... insanity
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited November 2013
    Neil said:

    Who were in power when Ceylon got independence?

    Always with the relevant questions.
    Well, Labour were in power when Sri Lanka got CHOGM....too.....

  • And the theme of the deficit and government debt seems to be acknowledged by some on the left at least. The unlikely figure of Ken Livingstone has raised the subject:

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ken-livingstone-labour-are-just-cowards-for-racking-up-debt-during-boom-years-8941706.html
  • tim said:

    @Carlotta.

    Did someone mention trust?

    " My family is so often in the hands of the NHS.

    So I make this commitment to the NHS and all who work in it.

    No more pointless reorganisations."

    So a reorganisation with a point is perfectly fine then......

    If Len can't trust Ed - who can?

  • I cannot believe that the four innocent Marines from the Afghan murder case are going to have their names published... insanity

    I'm not at all sure what purpose of justice is served by that....

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Neil said:

    R0berts said:

    TGOHF said:

    Miliband should back the Commonwealth's quiet promotion of democracy, not try to wreck it
    Ed Miliband has been determined to act as a wrecker for the Commonwealth Conference in Columbo. At the last moment he demanded that David Cameron should boycott the event, thus leaving Prince Charles to attend without his prime minister.
    There are two problems with the Miliband position. The first is that Gordon Brown backed Sri Lanka as host four years ago – and Labour in opposition did not raise any objections, either, when the location was reconfirmed two years later.


    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100246156/miliband-should-back-the-commonwealths-quiet-promotion-of-democracy-not-try-to-wreck-it/

    Another last minute u-turn by Ed - you just can't trust him..
    As Len McCluskey's found out the hard way.....and if Len can't trust him - who can?

    House!
    I only got a line - I had tim's Morrison's reference but was a Latvian homophobe away from a full house.
    Wait I missed "pb tories always wrong" :(



  • R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Long words, Jessop....long words.....

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983


    If Len can't trust Ed - who can?

    According to the latest MORI poll I can find on the issue more people than trust Cameron.
  • Neil said:


    If Len can't trust Ed - who can?

    According to the latest MORI poll I can find on the issue more people than trust Cameron.
    Why would Len trust Cameron? He didn't put him in his job.....

  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Why would Len trust Cameron?

    Why would anyone, Carlotta?
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Cameron you mean.
    Digital Spy ‏@digitalspy

    Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has branded David Cameron's porn blocking plans as "absolutely ridiculous" http://dspy.me/16iFZpS
    Bodes well for NannyCam's snoopers charter, doesn't it?
  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    Mick_Pork said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Cameron you mean.
    Digital Spy ‏@digitalspy

    Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has branded David Cameron's porn blocking plans as "absolutely ridiculous" http://dspy.me/16iFZpS
    Bodes well for NannyCam's snoopers charter, doesn't it?

    I have my doubts about that particular plan. But it doesn't stop the original point being correct.

    BTW, the SNP's robot.txt can be found at:
    http://www.snp.org/robots.txt

    All looks fair enough, aside from the use of the non-standard crawl-delay directive. This means that someone thinks that the SNP site will be vigorously patrolled by bots. Or, more likely, someone left defaults in. ;-)
  • tim said:

    Neil said:


    If Len can't trust Ed - who can?

    According to the latest MORI poll I can find on the issue more people than trust Cameron.
    Why would Len trust Cameron? He didn't put him in his job.....

    A man who makes promises on his family then breaks them, no wonder Miliband is more trusted
    You think 'family...promises...Miliband' a strong base to bat from?

    It's a view.....

  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    edited November 2013
    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
  • Any posters gone missing recently?

    Man Caught With Stun Gun Plotted To Kill PM

    http://news.sky.com/story/1169239/man-caught-with-stun-gun-plotted-to-kill-pm
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    why would anyone trust Len or Milliband...only fools would tread that path
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    The Con party vault purge is the ultimate saddo lefty 3 tissue fantasy:

    1) Involves a matter of low importance
    2) Does not involve any policy
    3) Allows them to cryw*nk out all their petty class frustrations - a toff boy beat me up at school...
  • R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    Or indeed Miliband over Falkirk/Unite/Grangemouth/McCluskey/Watson/McNichol/Oldknow/Yearly.....to mention a few....

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    Hideaway Ed and Tough guy Len..The juicesome twosome.
    The power behind New Labour..or is that Old Labour or maybe even just Labour..no one seems to know .. not even the party members..the ones who were signed up legimately of course.
  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    In the particularly trivial case of the botched Tory Internet Purge, not much!

    I'd post some more classics, Cameron's emoting / lies over Sure Start or cuts to frontline services, but there's enough massive pictures of clueless flab-faced Tory fops on this thread already. And it's boring.
  • R0bertsR0berts Posts: 391

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    Or indeed Miliband over Falkirk/Unite/Grangemouth/McCluskey/Watson/McNichol/Oldknow/Yearly.....to mention a few....

    Leverage!
  • Hideaway Ed

    Cameron: Sri Lanka
    Hague: Sri Lanka
    Osborne: Down a mine
    Balls: New York
    Chuka: Palestine (tho what's that go to do with his business brief, goodness knows...)

    Where's Ed?

  • R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    Or indeed Miliband over Falkirk/Unite/Grangemouth/McCluskey/Watson/McNichol/Oldknow/Yearly.....to mention a few....

    Leverage!
    I missed one!

    Rats!

    Preferably big inflatable ones, all the better to intimidate the neighbours....

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Hideaway Ed.. probably at home regretting having to sign his childrens birth certificate and actually ..due to public pressure ..urgh.. marry their mother.
  • Hideaway Ed.. probably at home regretting having to sign his childrens birth certificate and actually ..due to public pressure ..urgh.. marry their mother.

    Its all about 'family'.....and 'trust'......

  • SeanT said:

    Mick_Pork said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Cameron you mean.
    Digital Spy ‏@digitalspy

    Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has branded David Cameron's porn blocking plans as "absolutely ridiculous" http://dspy.me/16iFZpS
    Bodes well for NannyCam's snoopers charter, doesn't it?
    Porn is very effectively blocked in Thailand..Have you tried googling alternatives to 'Siamese Cat'?

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    The Porn in Thailand is live..you dont need to have it on the TV.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    In the particularly trivial case of the botched Tory Internet Purge, not much!

    I'd post some more classics, Cameron's emoting / lies over Sure Start or cuts to frontline services, but there's enough massive pictures of clueless flab-faced Tory fops on this thread already. And it's boring.
    Ah, so you can smear away, because it does not matter. Yet if someone from Labour is subjected to similar behaviour, it matters terribly.

    That explains a great deal.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    I think Labour's chickens may well come home to roost in Falkirk - or should that be their goats will be ripe for scaping:

    DAN HODGES (Who would have thought it - of all the people, surely not Miliband loyalist Dan) argues the case: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100246077/labour-is-lining-up-scapegoats-for-the-falkirk-scandal/ !"!!
  • R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    In the particularly trivial case of the botched Tory Internet Purge, not much!

    I'd post some more classics, Cameron's emoting / lies over Sure Start or cuts to frontline services, but there's enough massive pictures of clueless flab-faced Tory fops on this thread already. And it's boring.
    Ah, so you can smear away, because it does not matter. Yet if someone from Labour is subjected to similar behaviour, it matters terribly.

    That explains a great deal.
    Latest rant:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2013/11/internet-wont-forget-camerons-lies-and-neither-will-british-people
  • I wonder how long the Tory Party can hold back against the Falkirk surge before the ferrets in a sack scenario appears?
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    USA
    Interesting Sean Trende article

    "...presidential job approval is still the most important variable for how his party fares in midterm elections, explaining about half of the variance. The relationship is highly statistically significant: For every point in job approval the president loses, his party loses 0.6 percent of its caucus."

    Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/15/why_obamas_job_approval_will_matter_in_2014_120676.html
  • tim said:

    Neil said:


    If Len can't trust Ed - who can?

    According to the latest MORI poll I can find on the issue more people than trust Cameron.
    Why would Len trust Cameron? He didn't put him in his job.....

    A man who makes promises on his family then breaks them, no wonder Miliband is more trusted
    Spoof?
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    Hideaway Ed ... shamed into marrying the mother of his children... says it all really.. Is this man of no principle really PM material..only to fools
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    Hideaway Ed ... shamed into marrying the mother of his children... says it all really.. Is this man of no principle really PM material..only to fools

    There's nothing immoral about not being married to the mother of your children.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    In the particularly trivial case of the botched Tory Internet Purge, not much!

    I'd post some more classics, Cameron's emoting / lies over Sure Start or cuts to frontline services, but there's enough massive pictures of clueless flab-faced Tory fops on this thread already. And it's boring.
    Ah, so you can smear away, because it does not matter. Yet if someone from Labour is subjected to similar behaviour, it matters terribly.

    That explains a great deal.
    Latest rant:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2013/11/internet-wont-forget-camerons-lies-and-neither-will-british-people
    A classically clueless article. There's too much to say, but just one thing (actually a quote from the original CW article):

    "Conservatives posted a robot blocker on their website, which told search engines and the Internet Archive they were no longer permitted to keep a record of the Conservative Party web archive."

    The robots.txt file says nothing of the sort. Some (and not all) archives use the robots.txt for that purpose, but they do not have to (they do it out of choice), and it is nowhere in the spec. Basically, the archives are misusing robots.txt if they think it means that.

    If this is the level the left has to descend to, then God help us if they ever get back in.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    corporeal said:

    Hideaway Ed ... shamed into marrying the mother of his children... says it all really.. Is this man of no principle really PM material..only to fools

    There's nothing immoral about not being married to the mother of your children.
    No just selfish.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Jon Snow getting mobbed by crowds of Tamils on Channel 4 News.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited November 2013

    The Porn in Thailand is live..you dont need to have it on the TV.

    I'm thinking of going to Thailand for the first time in the next couple of months.

    Any tips? Thanks.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    If the 66,000 figure for FGM is correct, that means about 1 in 500 females in the UK, which is pretty shocking.

    Here's Leyla's e-petition again:

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/52740
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    ANdy JS..just walk down the street.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    Corporeal.. Maybe to you.. but I wonder what his children will think of him..and it also depends on your own consideration with regard to your relationship with your children. He apparently thinks his principles are uppermost.. sod the kids..
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Moderators I HAVE JUST BEEN REFFERRED TO BY SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WARNED NOT TO MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO ME..Does that ruling still stand
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    R0berts said:

    On the hopeless Shapps Purge, here's a Classic.

    (snip)

    You mean the purge that exists only in the minds of techno-illiterate conspiracy theorists?
    Ach come on, don't waste your time. The hapless Shapps Purge was a great story, a chuckler that will last, and got some of Cameron's Greatest Hits on the news (sledging with huskies on Newsnight I particularly enjoyed)

    As to the dull debatable facts of the matter, who cares?
    I daresay the policemen involved with the Mitchell affair had exactly the same view.

    Facts? What do they matter?

    :-)
    In the particularly trivial case of the botched Tory Internet Purge, not much!

    I'd post some more classics, Cameron's emoting / lies over Sure Start or cuts to frontline services, but there's enough massive pictures of clueless flab-faced Tory fops on this thread already. And it's boring.
    Ah, so you can smear away, because it does not matter. Yet if someone from Labour is subjected to similar behaviour, it matters terribly.

    That explains a great deal.
    Latest rant:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2013/11/internet-wont-forget-camerons-lies-and-neither-will-british-people
    A classically clueless article. There's too much to say, but just one thing (actually a quote from the original CW article):

    "Conservatives posted a robot blocker on their website, which told search engines and the Internet Archive they were no longer permitted to keep a record of the Conservative Party web archive."

    The robots.txt file says nothing of the sort. Some (and not all) archives use the robots.txt for that purpose, but they do not have to (they do it out of choice), and it is nowhere in the spec. Basically, the archives are misusing robots.txt if they think it means that.

    If this is the level the left has to descend to, then God help us if they ever get back in.
    Come on! Let's face it - the story is hilarious. Tories erase their history. Superb fun.
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536

    Hideaway Ed

    Cameron: Sri Lanka
    Hague: Sri Lanka
    Osborne: Down a mine
    Balls: New York
    Chuka: Palestine (tho what's that go to do with his business brief, goodness knows...)

    Where's Ed?

    Grangemouth.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Great picture and headline. :)
    Guido Fawkes - Friday Caption Contest (Stranglehold on the Free Press Edition)
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Hideaway Ed is in Grangemouth.. trying to get a real job.. his first.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    Corporeal.. Maybe to you.. but I wonder what his children will think of him..and it also depends on your own consideration with regard to your relationship with your children. He apparently thinks his principles are uppermost.. sod the kids..

    As a kid who was born years before his parents were married, and having a number of friends in similar situations, as far as I'm aware none of us were bothered by it (at least not that they ever told me).

    To think of that as "sod your kids" is well, a very strange idea to me.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Corporeal.. no probs with that, but was your dad vying to be the PRIME MINISTER.. the children of the Prime Minister are particularly vulnerable, to be publically disregarded by their father must be intolerable ..and he only signed up because of political pressure.. nice one..very Hideaway.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    Fox and Werrity.. who gives a sh*t. Lets talk about the crap that will come fom Falkirk .. that non-story
  • tim said:

    Hideaway Ed ... shamed into marrying the mother of his children... says it all really.. Is this man of no principle really PM material..only to fools

    I guess it depends on taste.
    Your preference is for a PR man who was told to use his family to increase his credibility on the NHS, then broke his word.
    A man who used Brooke Kinsella to lie about knife crime, a man who can't see a child victim of crime or a bereaved relative without seeing a photo op.
    Tim...
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067
    edited November 2013
    O/T CHGOM

    On balance, I still think the UK made a mistake by attending the CHGOM.

    However, having made the decision to go, I think David Cameron has conducted himself with admirably - it was great to see him visit Jaffna where he met the locals and held talks with the Tamil leaders there (who of course have next to no power in that authoritian state). It was obvious to see the frosty relationship with the war criminal Mahindra Rajapakse (compare that to the Prince Charles who quite frankly made himself look like an idiot - the Queen was very wise to skip this summit!).

    I really hope that David Cameron ratchets up the pressure on Sri Lanka using bodies like like the UNHRC and the UN Security Council to make sure Sri Lanka tow the "civilised" line.

    So a thumbs up for David Cameron on his conduct so far from this Labour supporter....
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    muralli-s.. An admirable stance.well done.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    edited November 2013
    murali_s said:

    O/T CHGOM

    On balance, I still think the UK made a mistake by attending the CHGOM.

    However, having made the decision to go, I think David Cameron has conducted himself with admirably - it was great to see him visit Jaffna where he met the locals and held talks with the Tamil leaders there (who of course have next to no power in that authoritian state). It was obvious to see the frosty relationship with the war criminal Mahindra Rajapakse (compare that to the Prince Charles who quite frankly made himself look like an idiot - the Queen was very wise to skip this summit!).

    I really hope that David Cameron ratchets up the pressure on Sri Lanka using bodies like like the UNHRC and the UN Security Council to make sure Sri Lanka tow the "civilised" line.

    So a thumbs up for David Cameron on his conduct so far from this Labour supporter....

    overall Cameron has done a very good job on his overseas jaunts. One of his successes as pm.


    And good on you for looking at this with an open mind, I know you were very anti this visit and summit, but you are judging on facts not prejudice. A lot of us could learn from that.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    @Doddy

    "Moderators I HAVE JUST BEEN REFFERRED TO BY SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WARNED NOT TO MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO ME..Does that ruling still stand"

    Doddy you're behaving like a little girl. Grow up! I'd expect better of you
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    Corporeal.. no probs with that, but was your dad vying to be the PRIME MINISTER.. the children of the Prime Minister are particularly vulnerable, to be publically disregarded by their father must be intolerable ..and he only signed up because of political pressure.. nice one..very Hideaway.

    Not being married is being publicly disregarded?

    Maybe it's a generational thing or just the society I grew up in, marriage is nice and all but people with kids and no immediate plans to marry wasn't a thing people thought negatively of etc.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Roger said:

    @Doddy

    "Moderators I HAVE JUST BEEN REFFERRED TO BY SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WARNED NOT TO MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO ME..Does that ruling still stand"

    Doddy you're behaving like a little girl. Grow up! I'd expect better of you

    Roger, just leave it. Why blow things up?
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    woger.. I was put on the naughty step and told not to make ref to a certain poster.. he was told the same.. I have stuck to the rules.. he did not....back to the bar old boy
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    murali_s said:

    O/T CHGOM

    On balance, I still think the UK made a mistake by attending the CHGOM.

    However, having made the decision to go, I think David Cameron has conducted himself with admirably - it was great to see him visit Jaffna where he met the locals and held talks with the Tamil leaders there (who of course have next to no power in that authoritian state). It was obvious to see the frosty relationship with the war criminal Mahindra Rajapakse (compare that to the Prince Charles who quite frankly made himself look like an idiot - the Queen was very wise to skip this summit!).

    I really hope that David Cameron ratchets up the pressure on Sri Lanka using bodies like like the UNHRC and the UN Security Council to make sure Sri Lanka tow the "civilised" line.

    So a thumbs up for David Cameron on his conduct so far from this Labour supporter....

    Good post.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited November 2013
    Sean T what is 200 Baht worth these days...In sterling,
  • Denis MacShane to appear at the Central Criminal Court on Monday for a plea and case management hearing before the Honourable Mr Justice Sweeney.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Telegraph - Labour are cowards for racking up billions in debt, says Ken Livingstone

    "Ken Livingstone, the former Mayor of London, has accused the Labour party of “cowardice” for building up billions in debts rather than taking difficult decisions on tax cuts and spending.

    In a speech to a campaigning group on Saturday Mr Livingstone accused Gordon Brown of borrowing too much in the boom years.

    Mr Livingstone said: “Gordon Brown was borrowing £20 billion a year at the height of the boom in the first decade of this century in order to avoid having to increase taxes, because he wanted to increase public spending.”

    The former Mayor described the racking up of debts as “an act of cowardice” on the part of the Labour party.

    Mr Livingstone appealed to Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, not to borrow more. Referring to Mr Miliband and Ed Balls, the Shadow chancellor’s, plans for the economy, he said: “I don’t believe that borrowing is your way to the future.”"
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    @muralis_s:

    I know you and I have politely disagreed about this issue in the past, but can I just say that your post was very good.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Have I missed an announcement on this?

    Saturday' i front page - "Jail for bad doctors and nurses" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers via @olyduff
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    tim said:

    Carola said:
    If they've put them back up I assume that means that the people on here who said they'd never taken them down were wrong.
    The Internet Archive put them back.

    Nothing to do with the Conservatives.

    Nothing to do with anything else on the Internet.

    Are Labour going to put Blair and Brown's speeches back on their site?
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536
    tim said:

    Carola said:
    If they've put them back up I assume that means that the people on here who said they'd never taken them down were wrong.
    We have always been at war with Eastasia.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Next said:


    Are Labour going to put Blair and Brown's speeches back on their site?

    Blair who?
  • tim said:

    England are confused by players who can pass the ball.

    English soccer players are like English politicians then.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    tim said:

    England are confused by players who can pass the ball.

    50-1 not looking too bad for the WC for Chile.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,471
    tim said:

    Carola said:
    If they've put them back up I assume that means that the people on here who said they'd never taken them down were wrong.
    Showing yet again that you do not pay any attention to what people say ...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    We have often said that, where the debate over the NHS is concerned, there is entirely too much political mudslinging. But Labour simply cannot be allowed to peddle the outright lie that the problems people have in getting access to GPs at evenings and weekends have nothing to do with the way their contract allowed doctors to shed such responsibilities – or, more broadly, to lay every problem with a health service they ran for 13 years at the door of the Coalition.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/10452228/Labours-astonishing-case-of-memory-loss.html
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Next said:

    tim said:

    Carola said:
    If they've put them back up I assume that means that the people on here who said they'd never taken them down were wrong.
    The Internet Archive put them back.

    Nothing to do with the Conservatives.


    The Conservatives changed their robots.txt that had disallowed crawlers from their old speeches.
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    edited November 2013



    Next said:

    tim said:

    Carola said:
    If they've put them back up I assume that means that the people on here who said they'd never taken them down were wrong.
    The Internet Archive put them back.

    Nothing to do with the Conservatives.


    The Conservatives changed their robots.txt that had disallowed crawlers from their old speeches.
    They removed the old stuff (just like Labour), changing robots.txt was a minor irrelevance.

    Pity we can't change a UKrobots.txt and erase 13 years of Labour misrule...
  • Comrades! The polls are clear evidence that we are still on track for our Glorious Revolution of 2015!
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