Russian bots aren’t sophisticated enough to spoof IP addresses (if that’s even how that is determined) but yet threw the 2016 referendum?
Tin. Foil. Hat.
It was partly tongue in cheek, but the concern with these petitions is a real one. It really isn’t difficult to pretend you are in the UK. I have no doubt the vast majority are real though.
The map is based on self-entered postcode. If there are a lot of bot sigs, they are doing a very good job of modelling a distribution of postcodes reflecting the Remain vote in 2016.
But we should recognise your greater expertise, posting here from thousands of miles away.
Again, that is trivial thing to do, if one wanted to. It isn't like the data relating to Remain / Leave areas isn't in the public domain.
I'm a bit confused. Up to yesterday the leaving date was written into the UK law as 29 March, or so I'd understood. Now the EU have decided to offer an extension (good) and the date written into UK law has been superceded by the EU's offer?
How did that happen? Or are there plans to change the law to the new date?
Any help welcome. Thanks in anticipation.
Section 20(4) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 allows the definition of Exit Day to be changed by regulations, otherwise known as statutory instrument. So secondary legislation rather than primary.
I'm a bit confused. Up to yesterday the leaving date was written into the UK law as 29 March, or so I'd understood. Now the EU have decided to offer an extension (good) and the date written into UK law has been superceded by the EU's offer?
How did that happen? Or are there plans to change the law to the new date?
Any help welcome. Thanks in anticipation.
Yes - the change is due to pass the HOC and HOL this week
Russian bots aren’t sophisticated enough to spoof IP addresses (if that’s even how that is determined) but yet threw the 2016 referendum?
Tin. Foil. Hat.
It was partly tongue in cheek, but the concern with these petitions is a real one. It really isn’t difficult to pretend you are in the UK. I have no doubt the vast majority are real though.
The map is based on self-entered postcode. If there are a lot of bot sigs, they are doing a very good job of modelling a distribution of postcodes reflecting the Remain vote in 2016.
But we should recognise your greater expertise, posting here from thousands of miles away.
Again, that is trivial thing to do, if one wanted to.
Yeah, it's not as if that information is hard to get
EUref2 would probably win that then but without a majority
Hmm... is it possible... could MP's themselves reach a decisive position.. alight on a solution ..actual functioning of the legislature?
Surely not.
It would not get the enabling bill past the HOC by 12th April and that is mandated for any extension
I do apologise to PB for constant repetition of this issue but it needs to colour everyone' s thoughts
I am not saying it is impossible by the 12th April but I would suggest extremely unlikely
Indeed Hyufd is very knowledgeable and I am surprised he has not refered to the enabling legislation road block
Out of interest, what happens if we haven't passed the necessary legislation by 12th April but then unilaterally revoke on that date?
Do we have to pass the legislation by 12 April (or 13 April, depending on the frantic discussions taking place in Strasbourg right now)? Maybe we can declare our intent by the 12th and get the legislation through in the days following.
No -
The enabling legislation has to have received royal assent by the 12th April otherwise we cannot stand MEPs in the campaign starting on the 12th April. That is why the EU named this date
For the Lolz, we could pass the MV legislation by the 11th April. We then get the extension to 22nd May to get the remaining legislation out the way (which we do on time or sooner) and then for a good laugh, because we are in the longer transition period the PM revokes on 21st May.
We break the EU.
Who on here said the EU might not survive the UK leaving? Perhaps we could do a Sir Humphrey and break the EU by staying.
Russian bots aren’t sophisticated enough to spoof IP addresses (if that’s even how that is determined) but yet threw the 2016 referendum?
Tin. Foil. Hat.
It was partly tongue in cheek, but the concern with these petitions is a real one. It really isn’t difficult to pretend you are in the UK. I have no doubt the vast majority are real though.
The map is based on self-entered postcode. If there are a lot of bot sigs, they are doing a very good job of modelling a distribution of postcodes reflecting the Remain vote in 2016.
But we should recognise your greater expertise, posting here from thousands of miles away.
Again, that is trivial thing to do, if one wanted to. It isn't like the data relating to Remain / Leave areas isn't in the public domain.
I don't doubt that the large majority of signatures are genuine. After all, 16 million people voted Remain.
Yes and if you look at the export destinations for goods in 2017 7.1% went to China and 6.8% went to the UK. Seeing as we are stockpiling at the moment, it can be assumed that we have bought forward demand for German goods. When we reverse this process and if China keeps slowing down I can only see it getting worse for Germany short term. Which also means it gets worse for the countries that supply the German export machine with intra-EU trade.
Russian bots aren’t sophisticated enough to spoof IP addresses (if that’s even how that is determined) but yet threw the 2016 referendum?
Tin. Foil. Hat.
It was partly tongue in cheek, but the concern with these petitions is a real one. It really isn’t difficult to pretend you are in the UK. I have no doubt the vast majority are real though.
The map is based on self-entered postcode. If there are a lot of bot sigs, they are doing a very good job of modelling a distribution of postcodes reflecting the Remain vote in 2016.
But we should recognise your greater expertise, posting here from thousands of miles away.
Again, that is trivial thing to do, if one wanted to. It isn't like the data relating to Remain / Leave areas isn't in the public domain.
I don't doubt that the large majority of signatures are genuine. After all, 16 million people voted Remain.
Again, for avoidance of doubt, I think they are genuine to. My point is / has been, that both those providing "evidence" of a conspiracy and non-conspiracy are mostly talking total horseshit.
Could an amendment be tabled to the MV that means a GE is triggered if it is passed?
Great question and I really don't know. My hunch is No because the FTPA lays down just the 2 very specific paths to a GE - the 2/3 majority one and the VONC + 14 days one.
Could an amendment be tabled to the MV that means a GE is triggered if it is passed?
Great question and I really don't know. My hunch is No because the FTPA lays down just the 2 very specific paths to a GE - the 2/3 majority one and the VONC + 14 days one.
I'm a bit confused. Up to yesterday the leaving date was written into the UK law as 29 March, or so I'd understood. Now the EU have decided to offer an extension (good) and the date written into UK law has been superceded by the EU's offer?
How did that happen? Or are there plans to change the law to the new date?
Any help welcome. Thanks in anticipation.
Section 20(4) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 allows the definition of Exit Day to be changed by regulations, otherwise known as statutory instrument. So secondary legislation rather than primary.
I'm a bit confused. Up to yesterday the leaving date was written into the UK law as 29 March, or so I'd understood. Now the EU have decided to offer an extension (good) and the date written into UK law has been superceded by the EU's offer?
How did that happen? Or are there plans to change the law to the new date?
Any help welcome. Thanks in anticipation.
Yes - the change is due to pass the HOC and HOL this week
Thank you, everybody. (I hope the blockquotes survive.)
Could an amendment be tabled to the MV that means a GE is triggered if it is passed?
Great question and I really don't know. My hunch is No because the FTPA lays down just the 2 very specific paths to a GE - the 2/3 majority one and the VONC + 14 days one.
What a terrible piece of legislation the FTPA is.
Luckily, there is something of a sunset clause. It is up for review in 2020.
EUref2 would probably win that then but without a majority
Hmm... is it possible... could MP's themselves reach a decisive position.. alight on a solution ..actual functioning of the legislature?
Surely not.
It would not get the enabling bill past the HOC by 12th April and that is mandated for any extension
I do apologise to PB for constant repetition of this issue but it needs to colour everyone' s thoughts
I am not saying it is impossible by the 12th April but I would suggest extremely unlikely
Indeed Hyufd is very knowledgeable and I am surprised he has not refered to the enabling legislation road block
Out of interest, what happens if we haven't passed the necessary legislation by 12th April but then unilaterally revoke on that date?
Do we have to pass the legislation by 12 April (or 13 April, depending on the frantic discussions taking place in Strasbourg right now)? Maybe we can declare our intent by the 12th and get the legislation through in the days following.
No -
The enabling legislation has to have received royal assent by the 12th April otherwise we cannot stand MEPs in the campaign starting on the 12th April. That is why the EU named this date
For the Lolz, we could pass the MV legislation by the 11th April. We then get the extension to 22nd May to get the remaining legislation out the way (which we do on time or sooner) and then for a good laugh, because we are in the longer transition period the PM revokes on 21st May.
We break the EU.
Who on here said the EU might not survive the UK leaving? Perhaps we could do a Sir Humphrey and break the EU by staying.
Well that is an idea, but I expect 12th April is the last date for revoke
Sky update
Angela Merkel has just confirmed that the 12th April is very important as the validity of the EU elections cannot be undermined
Just started listening to the podcast, and it occurs to me that the chief factor on whether I listen or not isn't the length of the podcast, but just how interesting politics is at the time.
Could an amendment be tabled to the MV that means a GE is triggered if it is passed?
Great question and I really don't know. My hunch is No because the FTPA lays down just the 2 very specific paths to a GE - the 2/3 majority one and the VONC + 14 days one.
What a terrible piece of legislation the FTPA is.
Dreamed up on the back of a fag packet by those two pillocks who did so much to make the UK what it is today, David Cameron and Nick Clegg.
And pro deal. I subscribe to the on line newspaper
No, don't confuse the one with the other. They are pro-Deal because they are pro-May not the other way round. If May switched to supporting No Deal, the Mail would follow. It will be interesting who will receive the mail's endorsement as her successor. I think they might support Javid or Hunt.
Just started listening to the podcast, and it occurs to me that the chief factor on whether I listen or not isn't the length of the podcast, but just how interesting politics is at the time.
There are serious proposals for an vote under the AV system in the House of Commons. I think we are at peak interest.
And pro deal. I subscribe to the on line newspaper
No, don't confuse the one with the other. They are pro-Deal because they are pro-May not the other way round. If May switched to supporting No Deal, the Mail would follow. It will be interesting who will receive the mail's endorsement as her successor. I think they might support Javid or Hunt.
Could an amendment be tabled to the MV that means a GE is triggered if it is passed?
Great question and I really don't know. My hunch is No because the FTPA lays down just the 2 very specific paths to a GE - the 2/3 majority one and the VONC + 14 days one.
What a terrible piece of legislation the FTPA is.
Dreamed up on the back of a fag packet by those two pillocks who did so much to make the UK what it is today, David Cameron and Nick Clegg.
It was designed to stop the Conservatives holding a snap election, but it turned out to have much wider implications.
De Gaulle was a big fan of referenda, which he used to by-pass the National Assembly.
I think we can all, remainers and leavers alike, agree that De Gaulle was an ungrateful, spiteful bastard who soured UK-Franco relations more than anyone since Henry II took back Calais.
De Gaulle was a big fan of referenda, which he used to by-pass the National Assembly.
I think we can all, remainers and leavers alike, agree that De Gaulle was an ungrateful, spiteful bastard who soured UK-Franco relations more than anyone since Henry II took back Calais.
That he was, but he did us a favour in vetoing our application for EU membership, had we had eyes to see it.
De Gaulle was a big fan of referenda, which he used to by-pass the National Assembly.
I think we can all, remainers and leavers alike, agree that De Gaulle was an ungrateful, spiteful bastard who soured UK-Franco relations more than anyone since Henry II took back Calais.
That he was, but he did us a favour in vetoing our application for EU membership, had we had eyes to see it.
And that's the point, my leaver friend, where we will just have to agree to disagree
It is. And it slipped through with so little fanfare.
It was that David Cameron again. Perfectly nice chap but ...
I don't get the hate for it. It seems to be doing its job perfectly well. It's not as though a general election looks likely to break the logjam and it would act as a displacement activity for MPs who should be using the time to be getting on with sorting out the mess.
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
It strikes me how beautifully positioned Jeremy Corbyn is right now. He has 2 options and both of them are potentially mouthwatering.
He can (i) stay passive and allow the Tories to implode over Brexit, or he can (ii) opt for 'cometh the hour cometh the man' and lead the HoC to a Brexit solution.
It strikes me how beautifully positioned Jeremy Corbyn is right now. He has 2 options and both of them are potentially mouthwatering.
He can (i) stay passive and allow the Tories to implode over Brexit, or he can (ii) opt for 'cometh the hour cometh the man' and lead the HoC to a Brexit solution.
Well that is an idea, but I expect 12th April is the last date for revoke
Sky update
Angela Merkel has just confirmed that the 12th April is very important as the validity of the EU elections cannot be undermined
But that cannot be right. What position are we in?
Presently, until 29th March we are in the A50 notice period. We can, unilaterally, revoke that notification and remain in the EU.
Then, from 30th March to 12th April, we are in.... what? The extended Article 50 period? So we can still revoke, unilaterally.
If the Deal passes etc etc, what do we move into between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019. If we CAN'T revoke, we aren't in the Article 50 period. If we're not in the Article 50 notification period, then we can't be members of the European Union. So what are we?
Genuine question for the boffins here. I know its mostly theoretical, but if we take the Deal, are we out from 12th April or not? If we're not, why can't we revoke until 21st May?
It matters, because once Remainers get wind of this, they know that the 12th April isn't a true hard deadline. The true hard deadline of when Remain becomes Rejoin is actually 22nd May.
((I think it's all academic - the MV probably won't pass; but its interesting if it does))
Mr. Pulpstar, even basic forward planning has been atrocious by almost all MPs.
May's obviously been rubbish, but hundreds of MPs backed triggering Article 50 and seem not to have realised the necessary consequence is that unless they back a deal (or something like a referendum/revocation occurs) we leave with no deal.
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
Trade union reform in the 1960's to 1980's was difficult. It destroyed two governments. That doesn't mean it was not worth doing.
Well that is an idea, but I expect 12th April is the last date for revoke
Sky update
Angela Merkel has just confirmed that the 12th April is very important as the validity of the EU elections cannot be undermined
But that cannot be right. What position are we in?
Presently, until 29th March we are in the A50 notice period. We can, unilaterally, revoke that notification and remain in the EU.
Then, from 30th March to 12th April, we are in.... what? The extended Article 50 period? So we can still revoke, unilaterally.
If the Deal passes etc etc, what do we move into between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019. If we CAN'T revoke, we aren't in the Article 50 period. If we're not in the Article 50 notification period, then we can't be members of the European Union. So what are we?
Genuine question for the boffins here. I know its mostly theoretical, but if we take the Deal, are we out from 12th April or not? If we're not, why can't we revoke until 21st May?
It matters, because once Remainers get wind of this, they know that the 12th is a true hard deadline. The true hard deadline of when Remain becomes Rejoin is actually 22nd May.
((I think it's all academic - the MV probably won't pass; but its interesting if it does))
The 12th is the hard deadline
The deal woukd take us to 22nd May but you cannot revoke post 12th April because we will not have taken part in the EU elections as confirmed by Angela Merkel
I don't get the hate for it. It seems to be doing its job perfectly well. It's not as though a general election looks likely to break the logjam and it would act as a displacement activity for MPs who should be using the time to be getting on with sorting out the mess.
It made sense for the Coalition but what it seems to be doing here is making it harder than it ought to be to kill the undead.
Although TBF these are once in a century circumstances.
This is fascinating polling on four Brexit options.
No deal is clearly inferior to both Ref2 and Norway+, since more people dislike it and fewer like it than either of these other options.
May's deal is clearly inferior to Norway+, since more people dislike it and fewer like it (although Ref2 is more popular than May's deal, it is also more unpopular).
This suggests either Ref2 or Norway+ would be reasonable options, although Ref2 is more polarising with more likes and dislikes than the latter.
My personal preference is Ref2 but Norway+ is a good compromise, as the least unpopular and second most popular outcome.
It feels like Norway+ aka BINO will be where we end up. Kind of a pointless waste of three years, but hey ho, thanks Dave.
Yes, that polling is very clear that Norway+ is the French restaurant compromise, when he loves Chinese food but hates Indian and she loves Indian but hates Chinese.
About 3/4 into the podcast. Polling-wise, the Government is doing almost as badly (in satisfaction terms) as Major in 1994, and Corbyn's doing almost as badly as Michael Foot.
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
I can't see any benefits from climbing Everest naked (unless you are an exhibitionist). I can see benefits from Brexit.
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
I can't see any benefits from climbing Everest naked (unless you are an exhibitionist). I can see benefits from Brexit.
Climbing Everest naked would be super cool and a great thing to do. It would also of course kill you. Let's not torture this analogy any more ( @Ishmael_Z has however been on fire, analogy-wise of late).
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
Trade union reform in the 1960's to 1980's was difficult. It destroyed two governments. That doesn't mean it was not worth doing.
Some difficult things are possible does not imply all difficult things are possible. We know empirically that trade union reform was possible. If a decent brexit is possible, could you get on the blower to whoever is in charge and tell them to get on with it?
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
I can't see any benefits from climbing Everest naked (unless you are an exhibitionist). I can see benefits from Brexit.
You'd need sponsors. Brexit IV Semi-Final 1 supported by Popcorn-U-Like....
:-)
And there would be plenty of interest, I would have thought.
However, almost as soon as I hit POST I realized a fatal flaw - the very serious risk of match fixing.
Final game, REF2 vs REVOKE, and REF2 needs the win to top the table, just pipping JobsFirstBrexit, whereas REVOKE is tailed off and out of the reckoning.
What's to stop REVOKE throwing it?
And if they do, presenting victory to REF2 on a platter, what will be the reaction of the supporters of JobsFirstBrexit? Will they riot?
Easy solution, like the way they do it in World Cups: have the games run simultaneously. That is - give everyone involved a sheet of paper with all the matchups on them and get them to make their choices there and then. Go down the paper, ticking their preferred head-to-head winner in each case.
You can then add them up one at a time to provide the tension, if you prefer, but the final result would be untainted.
Not sure it being difficult is a reason not to do something.
Well, it would be a good reason for not trying to climb Everest naked, for instance. Until you can demonstrate that you are any more capable of arranging a satisfactory brexit than you are of doing that, I'd keep quiet if I were you.
Trade union reform in the 1960's to 1980's was difficult. It destroyed two governments. That doesn't mean it was not worth doing.
Some difficult things are possible does not imply all difficult things are possible. We know empirically that trade union reform was possible. If a decent brexit is possible, could you get on the blower to whoever is in charge and tell them to get on with it?
We certainly did not know if it was possible in, say, 1977.
Well that is an idea, but I expect 12th April is the last date for revoke
Sky update
Angela Merkel has just confirmed that the 12th April is very important as the validity of the EU elections cannot be undermined
But that cannot be right. What position are we in?
Presently, until 29th March we are in the A50 notice period. We can, unilaterally, revoke that notification and remain in the EU.
Then, from 30th March to 12th April, we are in.... what? The extended Article 50 period? So we can still revoke, unilaterally.
If the Deal passes etc etc, what do we move into between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019. If we CAN'T revoke, we aren't in the Article 50 period. If we're not in the Article 50 notification period, then we can't be members of the European Union. So what are we?
Genuine question for the boffins here. I know its mostly theoretical, but if we take the Deal, are we out from 12th April or not? If we're not, why can't we revoke until 21st May?
It matters, because once Remainers get wind of this, they know that the 12th is a true hard deadline. The true hard deadline of when Remain becomes Rejoin is actually 22nd May.
((I think it's all academic - the MV probably won't pass; but its interesting if it does))
The 12th is the hard deadline
The deal would take us to 22nd May but you cannot revoke post 12th April because we will not have taken part in the EU elections as confirmed by Angela Merkel
Again, I ask why. Again, let's say the Deal is accepted right?
So, what position is the UK between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019. Are we a member state of the EU or not? If we are, we MUST be able to revoke.
Yes it 'breaks' the EU elections, in which case, if we take the Deal we MUST prepare for them, presumably?
DUP highly critical of TM not getting a better deal out of the EU and will not support MV3
TM needs to lead on this and put forward the indicative votes. Her deal has died
While a delay and soft Brexit might be the only option left it does of course spell huge trouble for the Tory Party as Michael Portillo said on TW last night. The notion the 70% Leave voting activist, membership and voter base will take kindly to a set of Euro elections and a long delay to Brexit is for the birds.
Easy solution, like the way they do it in World Cups: have the games run simultaneously. That is - give everyone involved a sheet of paper with all the matchups on them and get them to make their choices there and then. Go down the paper, ticking their preferred head-to-head winner in each case.
You can then add them up one at a time to provide the tension, if you prefer, but the final result would be untainted.
That is eureka and cracked!
Seriously, it now works. We just need a name for this system.
That banner is awful. It's attempting to be "down with the kids" yet it's got some pretty deeply unpopular leaders in front of it.
I don't know if you heard it but the sycophantic guffawing that occompanied the "jokes" from Tusk and Juncker last night was something to be heard. It was about as real as Trump's hairline.
The EU's media operation is pretty diabolical. It expects a higher level of respect for the institutions than the US media to the US President. This seems to be observed by most of the media of the member states and their own internal media provider, and it sees the British media including pro-Remain outlets as a thorn in the side when they ask unwanted questions. I was pro-Remain in the referendum and would probably vote the same if there were another referendum, but the way the EU attempts to portray itself as an infallible force for good does not wash with me.
Agreed. That should be the British contribution to the EU. Stir it up a bit.
I stand corrected if the petitioner herself did act threateningly. However, the petition campaign itself, rather than her as a private individual, and the march today, have threatened no-one, and been remarkable for their good nature considering the circumstances.
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We break the EU.
Who on here said the EU might not survive the UK leaving? Perhaps we could do a Sir Humphrey and break the EU by staying.
Sky update
Angela Merkel has just confirmed that the 12th April is very important as the validity of the EU elections cannot be undermined
https://twitter.com/DadJokeMan/status/1109109202776145922
It was that David Cameron again. Perfectly nice chap but ...
I'd like to swim the channel, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzc4Orlk3E
TM needs to lead on this and put forward the indicative votes. Her deal has died
He can (i) stay passive and allow the Tories to implode over Brexit, or he can (ii) opt for 'cometh the hour cometh the man' and lead the HoC to a Brexit solution.
If I were him I would opt for (i).
Presently, until 29th March we are in the A50 notice period. We can, unilaterally, revoke that notification and remain in the EU.
Then, from 30th March to 12th April, we are in.... what? The extended Article 50 period? So we can still revoke, unilaterally.
If the Deal passes etc etc, what do we move into between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019. If we CAN'T revoke, we aren't in the Article 50 period. If we're not in the Article 50 notification period, then we can't be members of the European Union. So what are we?
Genuine question for the boffins here. I know its mostly theoretical, but if we take the Deal, are we out from 12th April or not? If we're not, why can't we revoke until 21st May?
It matters, because once Remainers get wind of this, they know that the 12th April isn't a true hard deadline. The true hard deadline of when Remain becomes Rejoin is actually 22nd May.
((I think it's all academic - the MV probably won't pass; but its interesting if it does))
May's obviously been rubbish, but hundreds of MPs backed triggering Article 50 and seem not to have realised the necessary consequence is that unless they back a deal (or something like a referendum/revocation occurs) we leave with no deal.
The deal woukd take us to 22nd May but you cannot revoke post 12th April because we will not have taken part in the EU elections as confirmed by Angela Merkel
You could not make this up
Although TBF these are once in a century circumstances.
Lib Dems to win the next General Election?
I am now behind Norway or remain and the re-drawing of the political landscape. I do not care if ERG attempt to paralyse the government
Greg Clark confirms TM will bring in indicative votes next week
That is - give everyone involved a sheet of paper with all the matchups on them and get them to make their choices there and then. Go down the paper, ticking their preferred head-to-head winner in each case.
You can then add them up one at a time to provide the tension, if you prefer, but the final result would be untainted.
So, what position is the UK between 13th April 2019 and 22nd May 2019.
Are we a member state of the EU or not?
If we are, we MUST be able to revoke.
Yes it 'breaks' the EU elections, in which case, if we take the Deal we MUST prepare for them, presumably?
Seriously, it now works. We just need a name for this system.
Also seen as a good outcome by more than Tin Ears Deal Or No Deal