Osborne wasn’t worth listening to as Chancellor. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him now.
It's not really Osborne, but a sharp-tongued centre-left commentator, "tim", who despised Osborne and dislikes Corbyn. He used to feud here with SeanT regularly until Sean intrusively published tim's real-life name (Sean has apologised), after which tim's partner asked him to stop posting here.
tim was of course a prince amongst posters, very sensible left wing, funny, incisive and acute (you are very lucky, for example, Nick that he is no longer posting here). SeanT was jealous so broke the 4th wall, so to speak.
Agreed. Tim is a true PB legend. Arguably the best poster ever on this site – he ran rings around the PB Tories and the Labour hard lefties. Sean has apologised several times for what he did, however, so it's probably fair to leave that there. Indeed Sean has also asked several times that Tim return but sadly I think those days are over. The site is much the weaker without him.
Osborne wasn’t worth listening to as Chancellor. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him now.
It's not really Osborne, but a sharp-tongued centre-left commentator, "tim", who despised Osborne and dislikes Corbyn. He used to feud here with SeanT regularly until Sean intrusively published tim's real-life name (Sean has apologised), after which tim's partner asked him to stop posting here.
tim was of course a prince amongst posters, very sensible left wing, funny, incisive and acute (you are very lucky, for example, Nick that he is no longer posting here). SeanT was jealous so broke the 4th wall, so to speak.
Agreed. Tim is a true PB legend. Arguably the best poster ever on this site – he ran rings around the PB Tories and the Labour hard lefties. Sean has apologised several times for what he did, however, so it's probably fair to leave that there. Indeed Sean has also asked several times that Tim return but sadly I think those days are over. The site is much the weaker without him.
He was well informed and effective but his certainty was maddening.
Osborne wasn’t worth listening to as Chancellor. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him now.
It's not really Osborne, but a sharp-tongued centre-left commentator, "tim", who despised Osborne and dislikes Corbyn. He used to feud here with SeanT regularly until Sean intrusively published tim's real-life name (Sean has apologised), after which tim's partner asked him to stop posting here.
tim was of course a prince amongst posters, very sensible left wing, funny, incisive and acute (you are very lucky, for example, Nick that he is no longer posting here). SeanT was jealous so broke the 4th wall, so to speak.
Agreed. Tim is a true PB legend. Arguably the best poster ever on this site – he ran rings around the PB Tories and the Labour hard lefties. Sean has apologised several times for what he did, however, so it's probably fair to leave that there. Indeed Sean has also asked several times that Tim return but sadly I think those days are over. The site is much the weaker without him.
He was well informed and effective but his certainty was maddening.
Because we realise that the freedom we enjoy as Europeans today has in many ways been built and defended by the British people, we want Britons to know that we respect their choice. And should Britain wish to leave the European Union for good, it will always have friends in Germany and Europe. But Britons should equally know that we believe that no choice is irreversible. Our door will always remain open: Europe is home.
Britain has become part of who we are as Europeans. And therefore we would miss Britain. We would miss the legendary British black humour and going to the pub after work hours to drink an ale. We would miss tea with milk and driving on the left-hand side of the road. And we would miss seeing the panto at Christmas. But more than anything else, we would miss the British people — our friends across the Channel. We would miss Britain as part of the European Union, especially in these troubled times. Therefore Britons should know: from the bottom of our hearts, we want them to stay.
This is very much the view of German friends of mine. It is very sad that there are people in our country that wish to trash our international reputation and treat our closest allies with so much rudeness and disdain. No wonder they like Trump and Putin so much. These so-called Brexiteer nationalists are not patriots.
I have been saying for months that there are approx 18 labour mps opposed to a second referendum and not believed by some. However, this mornings news that there are many more labour mps anti a second referendum does demonstrate how much labour are split
Lucy Powell on 5 live this morning suggested labour is not split but have several shades of grey on the issue. She is taking us for fools if she thinks anyone believes that.
The interesting issue is where is Keir Starmer. In the HOC he has looked tortured and of course he has been promoting the second referendum which is clearly not going to be supported by labour. Indeed I would suggest that, with the real split in labour and a max of 30 conservative mps supporting a referendum, it is not likely to happen.
Boris and Davis resigned over policy, why is Starmer still in post when he is so much at odds with the leadership
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
I think that's probably right. If you want the stature that comes with a correspondent/presenter position, you have to be seen to be impartial. It's why people get upset with Andrew Neil because he does let his views come through on This Week.
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
It's a JOKE ffs and quite a good one - if I overheard it in a bakery I'd probably pass it off as my own. It really doesn't matter whether it's true or not.
Next on PB, scandalous suggestion that Matt cartoons portray imaginary events which never actually happened.
It's a JOKE ffs and quite a good one - if I overheard it in a bakery I'd probably pass it off as my own. It really doesn't matter whether it's true or not.
Next on PB, scandalous suggestion that Matt cartoons portray imaginary events which never actually happened.
Yes, I'd pass it off as my own. But that's the point, he can't and in fact I'd suggest he's done the opposite.
No, it really doesn't matter, I probably shouldn't have bitten.
It's a JOKE ffs and quite a good one - if I overheard it in a bakery I'd probably pass it off as my own. It really doesn't matter whether it's true or not.
Next on PB, scandalous suggestion that Matt cartoons portray imaginary events which never actually happened.
Have Matt & Matt Frei ever been seen in the same room?
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
I think that's probably right. If you want the stature that comes with a correspondent/presenter position, you have to be seen to be impartial. It's why people get upset with Andrew Neil because he does let his views come through on This Week.
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
Mr. Anazina, it matters because those seeking to be seen as objective reporters can't have their cake and eat it. You can express a personal view or attempt to be seen as neutral, favouring neither one side nor the other.
The EU do believe that... just not in quite the way which Ms Mordaunt means - which is why they are refusing to renegotiate what they have agreed.
Indeed. Even the fabled German car manufacturers are said to believe that it is better to lose some of their business to the UK than to damage the whole integrity of the EU. Wake up idiots, they do NOT need us more than we need them
What is it with PP and giving away money on Bercow? In October they offered 1/10 he'd make it to Christmas, now it's 1/10 that he makes it to April. He will leave at some point, maybe even this year. But before Brexit? Why on earth would he do that, and how on earth could people force him to?
If Matt Frei wants to give his opinions, fine. But don't make up a story to provide cover for doing so.
Why shouldn't he? James Joyce could have said: "the relationship between fathers and sons is complicated".
Instead he wrote Ulysses.
Just dont.
Ive tried 3 times to read Ulysses and the best Ive done is page 7, cant get in to it at all.
There are plenty of guides to it now - the most notable of course being The Odyssey. But well worth giving it another go.
My recommendation? I'd read The Odyssey and then just jump in and read Ulysses letting the language wash over you and enjoy whatever you get out of it, what do they say about some books which are not able to be read they can only be re-read?
I would be a liar not fit to grace PB if I said I had got further than p.7 of Finnegan's Wake, however.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
I have been saying for months that there are approx 18 labour mps opposed to a second referendum and not believed by some. However, this mornings news that there are many more labour mps anti a second referendum does demonstrate how much labour are split
Lucy Powell on 5 live this morning suggested labour is not split but have several shades of grey on the issue. She is taking us for fools if she thinks anyone believes that.
The interesting issue is where is Keir Starmer. In the HOC he has looked tortured and of course he has been promoting the second referendum which is clearly not going to be supported by labour. Indeed I would suggest that, with the real split in labour and a max of 30 conservative mps supporting a referendum, it is not likely to happen.
Boris and Davis resigned over policy, why is Starmer still in post when he is so much at odds with the leadership
Boris and Davis didn't really resign over policy. Boris flounced because he thought it was a good way of appealing to thicky Brexit obsessed activists, and Davis realised he might have to do some work if he stayed on.
Yes, a vast proportion of the population have been brainwashed. Do we need the misery, hardship and destruction of a No Deal to shake them out of this mania? Of course, a few poor souls who didn't countenance it may also lose their homes/jobs/lives etc., but I guess we'll just have to write them off as collateral damage as we cure this appalling national sickness.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Well quite. He's also extremely competent, a conservative and a good communicator.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
I see the logic of this -- but I also thought the same thing before the 2016 leadership contest, yet he royally cocked it up that time, so can we be sure he wouldn't this time?
Mr. Foremain, if we do end up leaving it'll be interesting to see how the EU and the member-states relationships to it and one another evolve.
Without our counterbalance, I suggest it will be a little more "ever-closer", whatever that means. If the US or Britain go into isolationist mode, very few citizens of the world benefit. Sadly both are doing so simultaneously.
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
I think that's probably right. If you want the stature that comes with a correspondent/presenter position, you have to be seen to be impartial. It's why people get upset with Andrew Neil because he does let his views come through on This Week.
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
Jesus Christ.
WHO CARES????
Lol. From the 'bloke on the internet' who keeps banging on about Laura K!
The EU do believe that... just not in quite the way which Ms Mordaunt means - which is why they are refusing to renegotiate what they have agreed.
Indeed. Even the fabled German car manufacturers are said to believe that it is better to lose some of their business to the UK than to damage the whole integrity of the EU. Wake up idiots, they do NOT need us more than we need them
I believe we need them more than they need us. But I also believe tht it is FUCKING IDIOTIC to go into a negotiation explicitly saying that no deal is not an option. You are basically saying you will take any terms you are offered.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
I see the logic of this -- but I also thought the same thing before the 2016 leadership contest, yet he royally cocked it up that time, so can we be sure he wouldn't this time?
I'm not saying he'll do it. It's easy to see how the winner could be some numpty like Dominic Raab. I am saying that Michael Gove is not too short-priced at present.
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
I think that's probably right. If you want the stature that comes with a correspondent/presenter position, you have to be seen to be impartial. It's why people get upset with Andrew Neil because he does let his views come through on This Week.
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
Jesus Christ.
WHO CARES????
Lol. From the 'bloke on the internet' who keeps banging on about Laura K!
I very nearly cited her as a very good example of an impartial editor (though I don't look at what she Tweets unless posted on here).
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
It's entirely possible it was actually said in a Berlin bakery, allowing for poetic licence on "overheard". Berliners have a good sense of humour and it's the kind of joke that appeals to the German sense of the ridiculous.
Not that it really matters whether it was said though ...
If Matt Frei wants to give his opinions, fine. But don't make up a story to provide cover for doing so.
Why shouldn't he? James Joyce could have said: "the relationship between fathers and sons is complicated".
Instead he wrote Ulysses.
Just dont.
Ive tried 3 times to read Ulysses and the best Ive done is page 7, cant get in to it at all.
There are plenty of guides to it now - the most notable of course being The Odyssey. But well worth giving it another go.
My recommendation? I'd read The Odyssey and then just jump in and read Ulysses letting the language wash over you and enjoy whatever you get out of it, what do they say about some books which are not able to be read they can only be re-read?
I would be a liar not fit to grace PB if I said I had got further than p.7 of Finnegan's Wake, however.
Ive nothing aginst long novels
I raced through the 1000+ pages of the Good Soldier Svejk only to be gobsmacked by the last page.
The EU do believe that... just not in quite the way which Ms Mordaunt means - which is why they are refusing to renegotiate what they have agreed.
Her logic is mangled.
It is only when the EU believe that No Deal is better, that they will then negotiate a deal. Why?
If they really believed No Deal was better, they would leave us to leave with No Deal.
I suppose she might be trying to say it is only when the EU believe that No Deal is better for the UK than the EU, that they will agree a deal....
That is, of course, what she intended to say.
It is a measure of how stupid she is that she was not only unable to do so, but also that her misstatement managed to express a truth which rebutted her intended argument.
The EU do believe that... just not in quite the way which Ms Mordaunt means - which is why they are refusing to renegotiate what they have agreed.
Indeed. Even the fabled German car manufacturers are said to believe that it is better to lose some of their business to the UK than to damage the whole integrity of the EU. Wake up idiots, they do NOT need us more than we need them
I believe we need them more than they need us. But I also believe tht it is FUCKING IDIOTIC to go into a negotiation explicitly saying that no deal is not an option. You are basically saying you will take any terms you are offered.
Even though I think the whole process pointless, I can't disagree with your logic. We are already negotiating from a very weak position. I blame the "will-o-the-people". Whoever they are. They gave us a very marginal vote to leave, and then at a following GE removed the majority of the governing party. The British are known for black humour, but this about tops it! Putin must be pissing his pants with glee.
Osborne wasn’t worth listening to as Chancellor. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him now.
It's not really Osborne, but a sharp-tongued centre-left commentator, "tim", who despised Osborne and dislikes Corbyn. He used to feud here with SeanT regularly until Sean intrusively published tim's real-life name (Sean has apologised), after which tim's partner asked him to stop posting here.
tim was of course a prince amongst posters, very sensible left wing, funny, incisive and acute (you are very lucky, for example, Nick that he is no longer posting here). SeanT was jealous so broke the 4th wall, so to speak.
Agreed. Tim is a true PB legend. Arguably the best poster ever on this site – he ran rings around the PB Tories and the Labour hard lefties. Sean has apologised several times for what he did, however, so it's probably fair to leave that there. Indeed Sean has also asked several times that Tim return but sadly I think those days are over. The site is much the weaker without him.
He was very intelligent and very nasty. He got several temporary bans for personal attacks on other posters.
The EU do believe that... just not in quite the way which Ms Mordaunt means - which is why they are refusing to renegotiate what they have agreed.
Indeed. Even the fabled German car manufacturers are said to believe that it is better to lose some of their business to the UK than to damage the whole integrity of the EU. Wake up idiots, they do NOT need us more than we need them
I believe we need them more than they need us. But I also believe tht it is FUCKING IDIOTIC to go into a negotiation explicitly saying that no deal is not an option. You are basically saying you will take any terms you are offered.
Even though I think the whole process pointless, I can't disagree with your logic. We are already negotiating from a very weak position. I blame the "will-o-the-people". Whoever they are. They gave us a very marginal vote to leave, and then at a following GE removed the majority of the governing party. The British are known for black humour, but this about tops it! Putin must be pissing his pants with glee.
Which Failed negotiation position is actually worse for the EU? As revoking and potentially vetoing everything as it comes across the table or As leaving the EU without a deal..
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
I see the logic of this -- but I also thought the same thing before the 2016 leadership contest, yet he royally cocked it up that time, so can we be sure he wouldn't this time?
I'm not saying he'll do it. It's easy to see how the winner could be some numpty like Dominic Raab. I am saying that Michael Gove is not too short-priced at present.
When Raab became Dexit Sec my first thought was how much more impressive he seemed than David Davis. It now appears he's pretty mad, if intelligent and completely ignorant. Not knowing how important the Dover crossing is? Nearly 3 years after the referendum.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Yes. IMO he is a great choice in any case, but his position right now is particularly powerful and I can see it becoming more so.
His biggest weakness is perhaps that he does not score well on the 'sort of chap I'd like to have a pint with' scale - many people would down it in one if they saw him coming over - but this should not matter too much in the event of him taking over in situ as next PM.
By the time he has to fight a general election he will have had the chance to endear himself to the general public and I sense he is capable of that. Not saying that he will ever be loved - difficult to envisage "One Michael Gove, there's only one Michael Gove" chants breaking out on a regular basis outside of party conference - but I can see him becoming well-liked.
That said, 6/1 looks a touch short now, so I have laid some of mine back.
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
It's surprising that Boris is welding himself so strongly to No Deal. Perhaps he's calculating that if there is a deal, he'll then be well placed to cry 'Betrayal' as part of his leadership bid. And if we don't get a deal... well, what's left of the country won't be worth ruling anyway.
Isnt it the case that Labour are ahead in the polls if you strip out Yougov? This suggests it is a house effect and give that Yougov didn't make a particularly great account of themselves in May-June 2017 I'm not sure how anyone is looking at the polls in the round and concluding that the Tories are ahead.
YouGov got GE2017 bang on.
Its constituency model which it hasn't been replicating did.
Its regular polling which it is doing didn't.
If we wanted to go on who got the 2017 election we'd use survation.
For some reason, beyond me, YouGov seems to be the only one that counts.
On here people tend to go largely on the most recent poll as Gospel. Pretty stupid for a supposedly sophisticated group. I'd say the parties are virtually level pegging.
None so unsophisticated as those who think the are sophisticated. And the more one focuses on politics the less one seems to know.
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
Shame Bowie, as an honorary Berliner, isn't around to sign the letter.
Nice sentiment but they'd just bitch and moan at us for bitching and moaning all the time if we stayed so its a bit misplaced. They don't want us to stay, they want an idealised version of the UK to stay.
It's surprising that Boris is welding himself so strongly to No Deal. Perhaps he's calculating that if there is a deal, he'll then be well placed to cry 'Betrayal' as part of his leadership bid. And if we don't get a deal... well, what's left of the country won't be worth ruling anyway.
Greater stupidity hath no man than this; that he lay down his credibility for his career
It's surprising that Boris is welding himself so strongly to No Deal. Perhaps he's calculating that if there is a deal, he'll then be well placed to cry 'Betrayal' as part of his leadership bid. And if we don't get a deal... well, what's left of the country won't be worth ruling anyway.
“I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.”
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
Is @MattFrei using a fake anecdote to express his views on Brexit because his job as a broadcast journalist requires a large degree of impartiality ?
I think that's probably right. If you want the stature that comes with a correspondent/presenter position, you have to be seen to be impartial. It's why people get upset with Andrew Neil because he does let his views come through on This Week.
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
Jesus Christ.
WHO CARES????
Lol. From the 'bloke on the internet' who keeps banging on about Laura K!
I very nearly cited her as a very good example of an impartial editor (though I don't look at what she Tweets unless posted on here).
The fact that Laura K is merely a mundane conduit is of importance because she is the political editor of the BBC. Her neutrality is not the issue, it is that she just parrots the lines she is fed.
If you want a proper national TV hack, go for Peston. He's a risk taker and not always right but at least he works hard to get behind the official line, which means he often provides insights and even scoops that are beyond LK, who is just a bit rubbish.
What Matt Frei says or doesn't say in a German bakehouse is utterly trivial.
It's surprising that Boris is welding himself so strongly to No Deal. Perhaps he's calculating that if there is a deal, he'll then be well placed to cry 'Betrayal' as part of his leadership bid. And if we don't get a deal... well, what's left of the country won't be worth ruling anyway.
It's either a bid for next leader of the opposition. Or he is on a bet to become the most unpopular prime minister in history.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Well quite. He's also extremely competent, a conservative and a good communicator.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
But someone on here did say a few weeks ago that ' even his friends know he is a cnut'.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Well quite. He's also extremely competent, a conservative and a good communicator.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
But someone on here did say a few weeks ago that ' even his friends know he is a cnut'.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Well quite. He's also extremely competent, a conservative and a good communicator.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
But someone on here did say a few weeks ago that ' even his friends know he is a cnut'.
Osborne wasn’t worth listening to as Chancellor. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him now.
It's not really Osborne, but a sharp-tongued centre-left commentator, "tim", who despised Osborne and dislikes Corbyn. He used to feud here with SeanT regularly until Sean intrusively published tim's real-life name (Sean has apologised), after which tim's partner asked him to stop posting here.
tim was of course a prince amongst posters, very sensible left wing, funny, incisive and acute (you are very lucky, for example, Nick that he is no longer posting here). SeanT was jealous so broke the 4th wall, so to speak.
Agreed. Tim is a true PB legend. Arguably the best poster ever on this site – he ran rings around the PB Tories and the Labour hard lefties. Sean has apologised several times for what he did, however, so it's probably fair to leave that there. Indeed Sean has also asked several times that Tim return but sadly I think those days are over. The site is much the weaker without him.
He was very intelligent and very nasty. He got several temporary bans for personal attacks on other posters.
They both sound like kernts, site must be better without, Shirley
It's surprising that Boris is welding himself so strongly to No Deal. Perhaps he's calculating that if there is a deal, he'll then be well placed to cry 'Betrayal' as part of his leadership bid. And if we don't get a deal... well, what's left of the country won't be worth ruling anyway.
Greater stupidity hath no man than this; that he lay down his credibility for his career
He'll need to make more than such a meagre offering if he really wishes to get on.
Unusually I'm not betting against the favourite for next Conservative leader at present. That's not because of Michael Gove's undoubtedly rousing speech on Wednesday (it's almost irrelevant) but because as of now he is just about the only conceivable hingepoint between the wings of the Conservative party that could keep it held together.
Well quite. He's also extremely competent, a conservative and a good communicator.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
But someone on here did say a few weeks ago that ' even his friends know he is a cnut'.
Gove or Hunt?
I imagine both!
Gove.
I thought Hunt would be the next Tory leader the day after GE 2017, and nothing I've seen has changed my mind since. Hunt might be seen as a 'bastard', but Gove is seen as being just a bit too 'weird' and, ultimately, he's not PLU enough for the Tory Party grandees.
Mr. Brooke, aye, not sure it's terribly clever to be making a cartoon of that nature. Knocking politicians is one thing, making light of the Duke's RTA is another.
Morris he would be the first to laugh at it.
Best one I saw was with webcam footage showing Corgi driving, very funny.
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Instead he wrote Ulysses.
'Brexit: High-profile Germans plead with UK to stay in EU'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46918009
Shame Bowie, as an honorary Berliner, isn't around to sign the letter.
Separately and far more bluntly
https://twitter.com/NadiaShireen/status/1086206307827441664
Do I want him involved in politics? Ideally not but rather him than a thousand Eddie Izzards (in politics).
"Children inherit their intelligence from their mother not their father, say scientists
Genes for cleverness are carried on the X chromosome and may be deactivated if they come from the father"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/children-intelligence-iq-mother-inherit-inheritance-genetics-genes-a7345596.html
Good call, Remainers, belittling a million deaths at Partition to make a trite little point. But it's what we expect of you.
Ive tried 3 times to read Ulysses and the best Ive done is page 7, cant get in to it at all.
Lucy Powell on 5 live this morning suggested labour is not split but have several shades of grey on the issue. She is taking us for fools if she thinks anyone believes that.
The interesting issue is where is Keir Starmer. In the HOC he has looked tortured and of course he has been promoting the second referendum which is clearly not going to be supported by labour. Indeed I would suggest that, with the real split in labour and a max of 30 conservative mps supporting a referendum, it is not likely to happen.
Boris and Davis resigned over policy, why is Starmer still in post when he is so much at odds with the leadership
What annoys me more, however, is when the likes of Flanders or Mason do an editor job to build up a profile and then come back as opinion makers. I think if you've done a correspondent/editor job on the BBC, you shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC to give an opinion (unless elected to office - like the SNP bloke who lost to Swinson last year).
Next on PB, scandalous suggestion that Matt cartoons portray imaginary events which never actually happened.
No, it really doesn't matter, I probably shouldn't have bitten.
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1086204366086918145
WHO CARES????
https://twitter.com/RussellScott1/status/1085131897326301185
Looking more and more tempting.
It is only when the EU believe that No Deal is better, that they will then negotiate a deal. Why?
If they really believed No Deal was better, they would leave us to leave with No Deal.
I suppose she might be trying to say it is only when the EU believe that No Deal is better for the UK than the EU, that they will agree a deal.
Still, this MP is a known to be less than accurate as she is the one who claimed we could not veto Turkey into the EU.
There are plenty of guides to it now - the most notable of course being The Odyssey. But well worth giving it another go.
My recommendation? I'd read The Odyssey and then just jump in and read Ulysses letting the language wash over you and enjoy whatever you get out of it, what do they say about some books which are not able to be read they can only be re-read?
I would be a liar not fit to grace PB if I said I had got further than p.7 of Finnegan's Wake, however.
Not many tick those 3 boxes in the current cabinet. Maybe Hunt, maybe..
Not that it really matters whether it was said though ...
I raced through the 1000+ pages of the Good Soldier Svejk only to be gobsmacked by the last page.
It is a measure of how stupid she is that she was not only unable to do so, but also that her misstatement managed to express a truth which rebutted her intended argument.
The major trading nation, the Faroe Islands, is due to sign a free trade agreement with the UK immediately after Brexit.
The report comes from a Greenland newspaper and is in Danish, so our friendly translator Nick Palmer can help get the right nuances.
https://sermitsiaq.ag/node/210813
Probably the Faroes just want our fish.
His biggest weakness is perhaps that he does not score well on the 'sort of chap I'd like to have a pint with' scale - many people would down it in one if they saw him coming over - but this should not matter too much in the event of him taking over in situ as next PM.
By the time he has to fight a general election he will have had the chance to endear himself to the general public and I sense he is capable of that. Not saying that he will ever be loved - difficult to envisage "One Michael Gove, there's only one Michael Gove" chants breaking out on a regular basis outside of party conference - but I can see him becoming well-liked.
That said, 6/1 looks a touch short now, so I have laid some of mine back.
If you want a proper national TV hack, go for Peston. He's a risk taker and not always right but at least he works hard to get behind the official line, which means he often provides insights and even scoops that are beyond LK, who is just a bit rubbish.
What Matt Frei says or doesn't say in a German bakehouse is utterly trivial.
I'm a fan.
As ever, ambition is the sun around which Boris' actions revolve.
I imagine both!