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This reminds me very much Tony Blair in the period leading up to the Iraq War. That, it will be recalled, saw massive demonstrations and Commons revolts but in the end the UK joined the US in going to war.
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Edit; or fourth, in a two way fight...!
I think Mrs May has a point.
Apparently Michael Gove is convinced our drinking water will run out within days of "No Deal" as we won't be able to get chemicals to purify it?
Yes it seems our governments have mismanaged the country so badly that we even rely on other countries for the very water we need to live.
Makes you wonder what the **** our governments have been doing for the past 40 years...
Admittedly it probably won't work - MPs seem determined to turn the Brexit mistake into an unnecessary Brexit disaster - but she deserves a hell of a lot of credit for trying.
On the negative side she is still pretty crap at persuading people of anything. She is also useless at building a team, getting a consistent line to take, making good choices of people for positions, exercising judgment, negotiating, preparing for people not agreeing with her etc etc.
From Corbyn's point of view I see very little upside in this. He is thick and ignorant. He depends on his gut for his view of the world and it is not in alignment with the vast majority of his party on this. He really doesn't do detail. Labour's 6 tests are so ridiculous that even May could take them apart. Her real battle is with her own party. Why would Corbyn not want to keep it that way?
Not going to happen.
Won't he just point out his party is united in opposition to her feeble deal? May's is the one that is all over the place. Then she is immediately on the back foot.
What could possily go wong.....
I actually think this strategy by the PM is a political boomerang that will come back and hurt her cause. Desperate and Weak!
On the other side, Corbyn will look frit if he refuses.
This isn't entirely her fault, but the result is way worse than the status quo for remainers, and a total disappointment in all kinds of ways for leavers. And some of the ways it's terrible haven't yet been communicated, like the fact that having kicked most of the difficult parts down the road, including the zero-sum bits like fishing quotas, they now have a further two years of psycho-drama, but this time every member state has a veto.
I guess part of what she's trying to do is to set the thing up as a Con-Lab argument rather than an internal Tory family feud, and it's possible that this will help her reduce Tory opposition when they have the vote. But the deal becoming slightly more likely to pass isn't necessarily bad for Labour, and being the representative of people who dislike this deal is a great gig, since it's basically everyone.
But it's not the obviously-dangerous volatile/medically necessary stuff that's the problem: we can fly that stuff in via the military. It's the thousands of other bits and bobs that's the difficult bit: what do you do when *everything* is one or two or three days late, all at once. It'll sort itself out eventually, but for a bit there's going to be some disruption that (if planning for a no-deal was done over the past two years) was entirely avoidable.
Saw the continuity Blairite smug-o-trons (Waugh, Stephenkb, Rentoul) confidently predicting Corbyn would NEVER agree to a debate because he's a coward.
Since those three have never knowingly been accidentally insightful about UK politics since Blair left office 11 years ago, I immediately knew that Corbyn would accept.
Two and a half minutes later, Sky confirms it.
What else can be the purpose of going over the heads of her MPs?
But it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what the voters think, and the voters generally think there's going to be a deal and it'll be over. That's probably the only thing they *do* like about the deal. But in fact it's just the start of two years of salami-slicing humiliations. That sounds like a good thing for Corbyn to get TMay, with her excellent glass grasp of detail, to explain to them.
Now May has gone the other way and we are going to have a debate when she is on dodgy ground and most people are just pissed off with wall to wall Brexit arguing.
If Corbyn wins, it will confirm to Con MPs that they absolutely have to ditch May pre GE.
However if May were to win (and in particular if she wins well) it may well be enough for Con MPs to think it's best to stick with May for the next GE. It would also give May a lot more confidence going into GE TV debates.
Over the heads of her MPs, put pressure on them via the voters.
It's a gamble, but a decent roll of the dice.
Not really her style, I know, but that would give it even more impact...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hrhcGzcTGI
Cut the bullshit. Project Fear would be a lot more convincing if you didn't reach for blatant lies like that.
Corbyn is the one who's got more to lose. May is toast anyway. She isn't going to win the vote. At least she's learnt that starting a fight that everyone knows you will win by a country mile, as she did the 2017 election, can be stupid.
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https://www.ft.com/content/4f1611ea-ef3d-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57
It should be entertaining for PBers but who else will want to watch?
On what information do you base that? According to the BBC, the Sea of Azov is shared between Russia and Ukraine. The bridge itself is a geopolitical issue in several ways, one of which is that it bars ships over a certain size from entering the sea, meaning some Ukranian ports struggle.