It`s not a point, but it`s a point that they have been falling for more than a decade now and you are using census figure of 2010! It is a point that Catholics do not have the organization of Protestant Evangelicals. It is a point that one of the biggest TV Networks here is owned by Bispo Edir Macedo. It is a point that one of the biggest blocks in Congress is formed by Protestant Evangelicals and not Catholics. It is a point that Protestant Evangelicals are on the rise here. WTF. I live in this country, I see everyday a new Evangelical church. I see the political influence this group have in our day to day. I see that Catholics do not interfere in political situation. I saw the Pope criticize torture while Bolsonaro said that Ustra was one of the biggest Brazilian of all time. I saw the Pope criticize hate speeches while Bolsonaro said the the opposition would go to jale or to exile.
It`s not a point, but it`s a point that they have been falling for more than a decade now and you are using census figure of 2010! It is a point that Catholics do not have the organization of Protestant Evangelicals. It is a point that one of the biggest TV Networks here is owned by Bispo Edir Macedo. It is a point that one of the biggest blocks in Congress is formed by Protestant Evangelicals and not Catholics. It is a point that Protestant Evangelicals are on the rise here. WTF. I live in this country, I see everyday a new Evangelical church. I see the political influence this group have in our day to day. I see that Catholics do not interfere in political situation. I saw the Pope criticize torture while Bolsonaro said that Ustra was one of the biggest Brazilian of all time. I saw the Pope criticize hate speeches while Bolsonaro said the the opposition would go to jale or to exile.
It`s not a point, but it`s a point that they have been falling for more than a decade now and you are using census figure of 2010! It is a point that Catholics do not have the organization of Protestant Evangelicals. It is a point that one of the biggest TV Networks here is owned by Bispo Edir Macedo. It is a point that one of the biggest blocks in Congress is formed by Protestant Evangelicals and not Catholics. It is a point that Protestant Evangelicals are on the rise here. WTF. I live in this country, I see everyday a new Evangelical church. I see the political influence this group have in our day to day. I see that Catholics do not interfere in political situation. I saw the Pope criticize torture while Bolsonaro said that Ustra was one of the biggest Brazilian of all time. I saw the Pope criticize hate speeches while Bolsonaro said the the opposition would go to jale or to exile.
It`s not a point, but it`s a point that they have been falling for more than a decade now and you are using census figure of 2010! It is a point that Catholics do not have the organization of Protestant Evangelicals. It is a point that one of the biggest TV Networks here is owned by Bispo Edir Macedo. It is a point that one of the biggest blocks in Congress is formed by Protestant Evangelicals and not Catholics. It is a point that Protestant Evangelicals are on the rise here. WTF. I live in this country, I see everyday a new Evangelical church. I see the political influence this group have in our day to day. I see that Catholics do not interfere in political situation. I saw the Pope criticize torture while Bolsonaro said that Ustra was one of the biggest Brazilian of all time. I saw the Pope criticize hate speeches while Bolsonaro said the the opposition would go to jale or to exile.
It is a point that a majority of the Brazilian population is Catholic.
Bolsanoro is anti abortion and anti greater LGBT rights, for traditionalists in the Vatican that is the main point after recent moves to secular liberalism in other former Catholic bastions like the Republic of Ireland.
For traditional Catholics liberal secularists are the real enemy not Protestant evangelicals, see the links now being made between the DUP and Catholic priests in Northern Ireland which would have been unthinkable 30 years ago
Meanwhile, the election in Hesse is a photo finish. Both TV channels calling CDU-Green 1 short of a majority. But ZDF calling CDU-SPD 1 short, ARD a majority of 1. But if that is the case what a shambles. Both parties lost 10-11 %. Meanwhile, the Greens, big winners in terms of vote share, face losing their place in government!
Isn't the most likely coalition a CDU/Green/FDP one? There aren't many other options.
Meanwhile, the election in Hesse is a photo finish. Both TV channels calling CDU-Green 1 short of a majority. But ZDF calling CDU-SPD 1 short, ARD a majority of 1. But if that is the case what a shambles. Both parties lost 10-11 %. Meanwhile, the Greens, big winners in terms of vote share, face losing their place in government!
Isn't the most likely coalition a CDU/Green/FDP one? There aren't many other options.
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I'm not so sure - I think the Corbynistas still hold the Attlee government up as a role-model. It's certainly not denegrated like the Blair years are. As I don't know Owen Jones, I can't say what he thinks of Attlee.
Most Corbyn supporters I have seen talking about the Attlee government or elements of it are quite positive about it.
More general point. In regards to the socialist argument, which is why I mostly avoid labels...
I don't think most people who label themselves as socialist want to cause a famine in some parts of the country and install puppet authoritarian regimes in neighboroughing governments or install an incredibly repressive dynastic dictatorship like the Soviet Union and North Korea anymore than than those who might label themselves as capitalists or as against communism/socialism want to set up concentration camps for political rivals and some minority groups and others it finds undesirable like Nazi Germany.
Many of the problems and negatives of these regimes are shared despite their differences. Part of the problem with these regimes is their authoritarianism, which cannot be levelled at Corbyn as his voting record is pro civil liberties. I think that is part of what attracted some supporters to him. When the terrorist incidents occurred before the election May's reaction was to attack human rights for political gain, I feel some of Corbyn's opponents in Labour may have had similar thoughts.
We can argue about who or what is socialist, is it just bad regimes, is it the Attlee government, is it Scandinavian countries, is it the Soviet Union or for those who are feeling particularly adventurous the is Nazi Germany socialist...
Corbyn supporters will generally talk about about the likes of the Attlee* government or the Scandinavian countries being closer to themselves or their ideas rather than say North Korea and the Soviet Union. Articles which complain that West Germany and the Soviet Union have some sort of childcare and Britain doesn't isn't proof of wanting us to be like the Soviet Union (or West Germany)
Someone could accuse them of secretly wanting to copy some terrible regime that shares (or appears to them to share) some of their economic platform but they could do exactly the same back, there have been plenty of bad authoritarian regimes that have indiscriminately killed people from a wide range on the left to right economic spectrum. The only good connective argument against most of the terrible regimes is authoritarianism and why that should be resisted.
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Also I was Global Green as well, which doesn't seem a huge surprise, Green is what I would have voted in the past if I had the chance pre Corbyn.
*I'd imagine a large portion don't know a lot about it outside of some vague stuff but those people would generally be positive about the changes made.
Amazing fact from the Hesse state election: there are currently just 94 votes between the Greens and the Social Democrats for second place in the popular vote, with the Greens on 570,260 to 570,166 for the SPD.
Haven't heard much about your new president but the little I have sounds pretty bad. With any luck he will be limited in the damage he can do over his term by others in positions of power and is booted out by the end of it. One way to fatally discredit a powerful movement sometimes can be for it to have the chance to fail, the only worry can be if people grow to like it. Best of luck.
Also extremely surprising given Boeing's generally excellent safety record. I think it's eight years since any version of the 737 has crashed under similar conditions (an Ethiopian Airlines flight out of Beirut) and that was caused by poor pilot training.
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Bolsanoro is anti abortion and anti greater LGBT rights, for traditionalists in the Vatican that is the main point after recent moves to secular liberalism in other former Catholic bastions like the Republic of Ireland.
For traditional Catholics liberal secularists are the real enemy not Protestant evangelicals, see the links now being made between the DUP and Catholic priests in Northern Ireland which would have been unthinkable 30 years ago
And to think some people find sport more exciting than politics...
Brazilian professional footballer Ronaldinho.
Brazilian professional footballer Lucas Moura.
Brazilian professional footballer Felipe Melo.
Brazilian professional footballer Jádson
Brazilian professional footballer Rivaldo.
Retired Brazilian professional footballer and 2002 world cup champion Kaká.
Retired Brazilian professional footballer and 1994 and 2002 world cup champion Cafu.
Among others.
More general point. In regards to the socialist argument, which is why I mostly avoid labels...
I don't think most people who label themselves as socialist want to cause a famine in some parts of the country and install puppet authoritarian regimes in neighboroughing governments or install an incredibly repressive dynastic dictatorship like the Soviet Union and North Korea anymore than than those who might label themselves as capitalists or as against communism/socialism want to set up concentration camps for political rivals and some minority groups and others it finds undesirable like Nazi Germany.
Many of the problems and negatives of these regimes are shared despite their differences. Part of the problem with these regimes is their authoritarianism, which cannot be levelled at Corbyn as his voting record is pro civil liberties. I think that is part of what attracted some supporters to him. When the terrorist incidents occurred before the election May's reaction was to attack human rights for political gain, I feel some of Corbyn's opponents in Labour may have had similar thoughts.
We can argue about who or what is socialist, is it just bad regimes, is it the Attlee government, is it Scandinavian countries, is it the Soviet Union or for those who are feeling particularly adventurous the is Nazi Germany socialist...
Corbyn supporters will generally talk about about the likes of the Attlee* government or the Scandinavian countries being closer to themselves or their ideas rather than say North Korea and the Soviet Union. Articles which complain that West Germany and the Soviet Union have some sort of childcare and Britain doesn't isn't proof of wanting us to be like the Soviet Union (or West Germany)
Someone could accuse them of secretly wanting to copy some terrible regime that shares (or appears to them to share) some of their economic platform but they could do exactly the same back, there have been plenty of bad authoritarian regimes that have indiscriminately killed people from a wide range on the left to right economic spectrum. The only good connective argument against most of the terrible regimes is authoritarianism and why that should be resisted.
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Also I was Global Green as well, which doesn't seem a huge surprise, Green is what I would have voted in the past if I had the chance pre Corbyn.
*I'd imagine a large portion don't know a lot about it outside of some vague stuff but those people would generally be positive about the changes made.
https://statistik-hessen.de/l_2018/html/landesergebnis
Haven't heard much about your new president but the little I have sounds pretty bad. With any luck he will be limited in the damage he can do over his term by others in positions of power and is booted out by the end of it. One way to fatally discredit a powerful movement sometimes can be for it to have the chance to fail, the only worry can be if people grow to like it. Best of luck.
Found this on twitter, give a bit of context to our conversations.
This guy sounds a lot worse than Trump, that wouldn't be out of place in 30's Germany.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4bf90724
Technical discussion at PPRuNe:
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/614857-indonesian-aircraft-missing-off-jakarta-3.html
Also extremely surprising given Boeing's generally excellent safety record. I think it's eight years since any version of the 737 has crashed under similar conditions (an Ethiopian Airlines flight out of Beirut) and that was caused by poor pilot training.