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  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,814
    Mr. B, well, I just slipped below 9st again, so you might be right :p
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    Nigelb said:

    Anorak said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Cookie said:

    Anazina said:

    Big John

    There should be a stringent law that nobody is allowed to post a portrait video ever. They are the devils own work.

    This is one of my bugbears.
    My eyes are next to each other, rather than one on top of each other. Being a terretsrial creature, most of the action I see goes along, rather than up and down. WHY doe people persist in filming in portrait? I recently saw someone post a portrait film on facebook of something he was watching on his telly. You can't get much more inherently-landscape than that.
    @WalrusWinks raises a very valid point

    https://twitter.com/WalrusWinks/status/939297756732055552
    Was it Apple that started this abomination ?
    Phones and digital cameras mimic mechanical cameras. You turn the phone and you turn the frame. That decision was made long, long before the iPhone was a twinkle in Steve Job's eye.

    [normally I'm happy to blame Apple for pretty much anything]
    A very good potted history the the format's origins:
    http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/10/the-remarkable-persistence-of-24x36.html
    Really, really interesting. When young I worked in a chemists with a big photo business and we could, in the summer, have queues of people buying film and wanting us to load their cameras, ‘cos they always made a mess of it’!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    Mr. B, well, I just slipped below 9st again, so you might be right :p

    I will despatch an emergency supply of pineapple pizzas at once.
  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,565
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Nigelb said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    Impressively, solar appears to be generating more than coal, in the middle of October.
    Yes it's surprising how much solar power is generated on cloudy days.
    How about at night - moonlight?
    Not strong enough AFAIK.
    We've just moved and so said goodbye to our solar panels; did very well for us, but never generated anything by moonlight to my knowledge.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    Anazina said:

    She gets rid of McVey, Mordaunt AND Leadsom?!? wow what an incentive!! Three for the price of one!!

    But Gove, Fox, Javid and Hunt would also have to go or admit to being Remainers all along.
    And Gove AND Fox??? It just gets better and better and better.

    (Hunt and Javid ARE Remainers)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Not sure that makes them brutal negotiatiors...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301

    Nigelb said:

    Anorak said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Cookie said:

    Anazina said:

    Big John

    There should be a stringent law that nobody is allowed to post a portrait video ever. They are the devils own work.

    This is one of my bugbears.
    My eyes are next to each other, rather than one on top of each other. Being a terretsrial creature, most of the action I see goes along, rather than up and down. WHY doe people persist in filming in portrait? I recently saw someone post a portrait film on facebook of something he was watching on his telly. You can't get much more inherently-landscape than that.
    @WalrusWinks raises a very valid point

    https://twitter.com/WalrusWinks/status/939297756732055552
    Was it Apple that started this abomination ?
    Phones and digital cameras mimic mechanical cameras. You turn the phone and you turn the frame. That decision was made long, long before the iPhone was a twinkle in Steve Job's eye.

    [normally I'm happy to blame Apple for pretty much anything]
    A very good potted history the the format's origins:
    http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/10/the-remarkable-persistence-of-24x36.html
    There's a word for the general tendency of the digital to mimic the manual, even when they need not - digital "bookselves" that are pictures of bookshelves with "books".
    Skeuomorphism
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    Another interesting example of where Health care has gone so desperately wrong in the US is the opioid epidemic which has impacted on average life expectancy.

    This is Richard Ojeda's take on it: https://voteojeda.com/not-one-more/

    He's not exactly holding back. He is also attacking Miller on Affordable Care. It is a good example of what Mike is talking about and I agree with him that it just might come into focus more as polling day approaches.

    RCP still have this ward as lean republican despite Ojeda being up in 2 of the last 3 polls. Makes we wonder just how many seats in the House are a lot more marginal than they look on inadequate or out of date polling.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    edited October 2018
    RobD said:

    Not sure that makes them brutal negotiatiors...
    As discussed upthread; what part of No do you not understand?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,726

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    Maybe they'll build one of the bigger tidal barrages, after all.
    Probably cheaper than batteries.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Nigelb said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    Impressively, solar appears to be generating more than coal, in the middle of October.
    Yes it's surprising how much solar power is generated on cloudy days.
    How about at night - moonlight?
    Not strong enough AFAIK.
    Wrong wavelength?
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    It's also worth looking at the Irish grid.
    http://smartgriddashboard.eirgrid.com/#all/generation?scroll=fuel
  • geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    Use the electricity to pump water to a reservoir at a higher level. Then use the water from the higher reservoir to drive an electricity generator at a later time.

    Musk (of Tesla fame) claims you could charge up his batteries in future but this might be of limited capacity and high cost.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I would be tempted to put a bet on the Reps holding the house if the odds were better.

    Real Clear Politics has moved the house in the last week from 205D, 194R, 36 Toss up to 204D, 199R, 32 Toss up.

    If you split the toss ups 50:50 that would give 220D-215R which is not exactly secure for the Dems.

    The NY Times are live polling 4 Congressional Districts and have R ahead in 2 and D ahead in 2.

    Looking at the Senate, it is now possible that the Reps could gain seats. I wouldn't be surprised if the better polls in TX, TN and NV are also matched in MT and IN when they are next polled.

    It's always been likely the Republicans would gain seats in the Senate. The Dems were - simply - just defending too many Deep Red states, like North Dakota, Montana and West Virginia, faced a very popular ex-Governor in Florida, and were hoping for unlikely pick-ups suck as Texas or Tennessee.

    The 538 model has always had the most likely scenario being the Republicans picking up one Senate seat net, with them picking up two being more likely than the Dems gaining one net. Those seem pretty accurate to me.

    In the House, the issue for the Republicans is that the polling from wealthy suburbs - which are reliably Republican normally - has been pretty awful. (Actually, really awful.) It's a pattern of concentrated losses which mean I think the roughly 75% chance for them to take the House is about right.
    538 has, in fact, moved their forecast very slightly in the direction of the Dems in the last week. See:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/
    Importantly, the Republicans have avoided choosing loons to contest competitive Senate seats.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301

    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Nigelb said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    Impressively, solar appears to be generating more than coal, in the middle of October.
    Yes it's surprising how much solar power is generated on cloudy days.
    How about at night - moonlight?
    Not strong enough AFAIK.
    Wrong wavelength?
    No - just around a million times less bright than sunlight:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    DavidL said:

    Another interesting example of where Health care has gone so desperately wrong in the US is the opioid epidemic which has impacted on average life expectancy.

    This is Richard Ojeda's take on it: https://voteojeda.com/not-one-more/

    He's not exactly holding back. He is also attacking Miller on Affordable Care. It is a good example of what Mike is talking about and I agree with him that it just might come into focus more as polling day approaches.

    RCP still have this ward as lean republican despite Ojeda being up in 2 of the last 3 polls. Makes we wonder just how many seats in the House are a lot more marginal than they look on inadequate or out of date polling.

    If he wins the West Virginia 3rd this year, there has to be a decent chance he'll take a run at Shelley Anne Capito for the West Virginia senate seat in 2020.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    RobD said:

    Mr. B, well, I just slipped below 9st again, so you might be right :p

    I will despatch an emergency supply of pineapple pizzas at once.
    You trying to starve the poor fellow ?
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    Who is Peddy Mordaunt?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    edited October 2018
    (edit) redundant repetition.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992

    Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    A nation waits, quietly hoping...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,814
    Mr. Meeks, that's quite the stat.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,752
    edited October 2018

    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
    After three days in Brussels all they achieved was to threaten the UK PM. Whose side are they on? :)
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    edited October 2018

    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730

    Male/male rape in US prisons is endemic. Prison officers seem to regard it as a fitting punishment.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    It's really quite simple : you use the power generated by the sun to turn a light which is pointing at the solar panels. And then in the morning, when the sun comes up, you turn the light off. Everybody knows this
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    Sean_F said:

    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730

    Male/male rape in US prisons is endemic.
    Yes, but I don't think that was what Trump was referring to ...
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/02/politics/trump-scary-time-for-young-men-metoo/index.html
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
    Perhaps the DUP are united in knowing what they want, and what they do not want. The Conservative Party, on the other hand, is deeply fragmented, and doesn`t have a clue or a single voice. This makes the Conservative Party quite incapable of doing anything. We shouldn`t blame Mrs May for this. It is the fault of previous Conservative leaders who refused to lance the boil.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited October 2018
    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    Simple: pump water to the top of reservoirs when you have too much electricity. When you don't have enough, allow the water to to power turbines. Edit: David's already said the same thing.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628

    tpfkar said:

    Am I the only person losing count of how many deadlines Theresa May is being given, and how many whoosh past with naff all happening?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    If Gove, Javid and Hunt don't join them we can put them in the Remain camp.
    Sajid Javid, your moment has arrived.....
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067

    Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    Three titans of British politics will be leaving the Cabinet on Monday - LOL!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    PClipp said:

    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
    Perhaps the DUP are united in knowing what they want, and what they do not want. The Conservative Party, on the other hand, is deeply fragmented, and doesn`t have a clue or a single voice. This makes the Conservative Party quite incapable of doing anything. We shouldn`t blame Mrs May for this. It is the fault of previous Conservative leaders who refused to lance the boil.
    Agreed. Cameron should have lanced the boil in 2010. But Clegg wouldn't let him....
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Another interesting example of where Health care has gone so desperately wrong in the US is the opioid epidemic which has impacted on average life expectancy.

    This is Richard Ojeda's take on it: https://voteojeda.com/not-one-more/

    He's not exactly holding back. He is also attacking Miller on Affordable Care. It is a good example of what Mike is talking about and I agree with him that it just might come into focus more as polling day approaches.

    RCP still have this ward as lean republican despite Ojeda being up in 2 of the last 3 polls. Makes we wonder just how many seats in the House are a lot more marginal than they look on inadequate or out of date polling.

    If he wins the West Virginia 3rd this year, there has to be a decent chance he'll take a run at Shelley Anne Capito for the West Virginia senate seat in 2020.
    His opponent is pretty high profile and it would be a major scalp. I suspect 2020 would be too soon and he will want to build his incumbency first. It's definitely one I will be looking for next month.
  • tpfkar said:

    Am I the only person losing count of how many deadlines Theresa May is being given, and how many whoosh past with naff all happening?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    If Gove, Javid and Hunt don't join them we can put them in the Remain camp.
    Sajid Javid, your moment has arrived.....
    He (or Leadsom) could announce he has sent his letter to the Chair of the 1922 Committee thus prompting further letters and an election for a new leader of the Conservatives.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220

    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730

    I wonder how many offenders the mooted Crime survey's 152,000 rape victims every year entails.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,773

    Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730

    You're a lawyer alastair, so you know the old misuse of statistics.

    If your defending a cat accused of stealing milk:
    'Cats are very very unlikely to ever steal another cat's milk, so my cat is very unlikely to have stolen your cat's milk'

    Compared with

    'If a cat has his milk stolen, then it's likely that another cat did it'.

    Both are true, but there a huge complexity behind levels of risk and each individual has a personal risk index depending on circumstances.
  • Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    I see only sunlit uplands.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    edited October 2018
    rcs1000 said:

    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    It's really quite simple : you use the power generated by the sun to turn a light which is pointing at the solar panels. And then in the morning, when the sun comes up, you turn the light off. Everybody knows this
    We are enlightened.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628

    tpfkar said:

    Am I the only person losing count of how many deadlines Theresa May is being given, and how many whoosh past with naff all happening?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    If Gove, Javid and Hunt don't join them we can put them in the Remain camp.
    Sajid Javid, your moment has arrived.....
    He (or Leadsom) could announce he has sent his letter to the Chair of the 1922 Committee thus prompting further letters and an election for a new leader of the Conservatives.
    If Javid resigns, that is the starting pistol for the election of a new leader. No ifs, no buts.... Whilst it could be that David Davis is crowned for a couple of years stint, the timing then might not be so good for Sajid (given how the Home Office has a reputation for spitting out Home Secretaries in the past, he ight have dropped the ball in those couple of years.

    I said as soon as he was appointed that he was the key person May could not lose. Even truer now.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127

    tpfkar said:

    Am I the only person losing count of how many deadlines Theresa May is being given, and how many whoosh past with naff all happening?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    If Gove, Javid and Hunt don't join them we can put them in the Remain camp.
    Sajid Javid, your moment has arrived.....
    Or Raab.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    rcs1000 said:

    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    It's really quite simple : you use the power generated by the sun to turn a light which is pointing at the solar panels. And then in the morning, when the sun comes up, you turn the light off. Everybody knows this
    We are enlightened.
    Robert has missed out a crucial detail, the complex series of mirrors you need to ensure the light takes ~12 hours to get from the lamp to the solar panel, avoiding the need for any expensive battery setup.
  • Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    I see only sunlit uplands.
    Energy shortage solved. Build solar cell farms on the sunlit uplands.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728

    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    Use the electricity to pump water to a reservoir at a higher level. Then use the water from the higher reservoir to drive an electricity generator at a later time.

    Musk (of Tesla fame) claims you could charge up his batteries in future but this might be of limited capacity and high cost.
    Except you need a large difference in height; the greater the difference, the greater the potential energy stored. Sadly in the UK, whilst we have lots of high ground, there aren't that many places which are suitable that have not been exploited, and the capacity isn't that great compared to need. In addition, many of those high lands are rather delicate ecologically, and building a large reservoir across them isn't the best idea.

    For short-term storage and voltage levelling, chemical batteries, molten salts or even flywheels look like better alternatives. In fact, flywheels and batteries can be used to level out power output at windfarms.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,814
    New thread.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    New thread folks....
  • Someone help me here, what's the threat?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    In this age of #metoo here's a statistic that's worth thinking about:

    https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1050754396437577730

    You're a lawyer alastair, so you know the old misuse of statistics.

    If your defending a cat accused of stealing milk:
    'Cats are very very unlikely to ever steal another cat's milk, so my cat is very unlikely to have stolen your cat's milk'

    Compared with

    'If a cat has his milk stolen, then it's likely that another cat did it'.

    Both are true, but there a huge complexity behind levels of risk and each individual has a personal risk index depending on circumstances.

    It's not the statistics which is at fault but the verbal reasoning resulting in the misuse of the statistics.
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    PClipp said:

    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
    Perhaps the DUP are united in knowing what they want, and what they do not want. The Conservative Party, on the other hand, is deeply fragmented, and doesn`t have a clue or a single voice. This makes the Conservative Party quite incapable of doing anything. We shouldn`t blame Mrs May for this. It is the fault of previous Conservative leaders who refused to lance the boil.
    Agreed. Cameron should have lanced the boil in 2010. But Clegg wouldn't let him....
    Not according to the version I heard, Mr Mark. If Cameron had had the courage to boot out his bastards (as they used to be called), I don`t think the country would have been in the mess it is today.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    May's deal in its Chequers form was seriously unpalatable. It looks like the final version is going to be even worse. I can understand why the sidelined leavers in the cabinet are unhappy. Who could have believed that things could have been handled as ineptly as they have been in the last 18 months (well, apart from anyone paying any attention)?

    Unhappy though I am I just don't see an alternative to going through with this. Bringing May down now throws the whole process into complete chaos and would damage the country. Like Labour back benches, Tory leavers have learned the harsh lesson that failing to act is also a decision with consequences.

    Given where we are I think we have no choice but to swallow her shit. What we need to do is ensure, so far as possible, that her pathetic efforts will not be binding on future governments so we can sort this out once she has gone.
  • Mortimer said:

    tpfkar said:

    Am I the only person losing count of how many deadlines Theresa May is being given, and how many whoosh past with naff all happening?

    https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1050742936885964800

    If Gove, Javid and Hunt don't join them we can put them in the Remain camp.
    Sajid Javid, your moment has arrived.....
    Or Raab.
    Raaab is one of the traitors.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    PClipp said:

    Sub-contract them to negotiate with Brussels.....
    Perhaps the DUP are united in knowing what they want, and what they do not want. The Conservative Party, on the other hand, is deeply fragmented, and doesn`t have a clue or a single voice. This makes the Conservative Party quite incapable of doing anything. We shouldn`t blame Mrs May for this. It is the fault of previous Conservative leaders who refused to lance the boil.
    Tory discipline is quite pathetic at the moment. Even the GOP managed to sort themselves out into a reasonably united front in the end over the controversial Kavanaugh stuff.
    Both the ERG and the remainers can't help themselves when it comes to grandstanding whataboutery right now when they should be getting behind May.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    geoffw said:

    DavidL said:

    AndyJS said:

    Wind power is generating 10.3GW at present, the highest I've seen so far.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

    More than gas. Astonishing. I would have thought some of the windfarms would have been off line today too with the wind too strong to operate.
    Those nearest the storm might well be, as the peak of the storm passes, but all the other turbines spread across the country benefit. We had similar days in September.

    I believe that there is a reasonably strong pipeline of offshore wind projects. In years to come we will need some extra storage capacity to absorb excess wind on windy days. I hope that is being thought about by National Grid.
    How do you store electricity?
    Lots of ways are being looked at. You could convert it to (hydrogen/methane) gas, store the gas, then burn the gas later. There was a project trying gas compression at Didcot - haven't heard anything about that recently though. Batteries did win some of the recent capacity auctions, but not sure how well they will scale.

    I'm sure clever engineering types will have more ideas when money is on offer for it.
  • May could end up with only Ken Clarke, Anna Soubry, Sarah Woolaston, Nicky Morgan and Dominic Grieve available to fill Cabinet positions.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    edited October 2018
    Sean_F said:

    justin124 said:

    Sean_F said:

    justin124 said:

    Sean_F said:

    justin124 said:

    maaarsh said:

    maaarsh said:

    With the latest polling out of Tennessee the senate is basically done now. 538 is only giving the Dems a plausible chance by somehow making North Dakota a viable win for them.

    I
    She's a conventional Democrat running in a state which Trump won by 36 points and still has a high approval rating in.

    The other Senate seat in ND is currently held by the Republicans with a 62% majority. The GOP won the Govenorship by 57%.

    She's well down in the polls against a well known and liked local candidate. Frankly she needs a scandal to fall in to her lap at this point.
    Quite a few states appear to be trending to the Democrats though on a demographic basis - Texas - Arizona - Georgia - North Carolina - maybe Florida.
    Not really North Carolina or Florida, and the Democrats regularly punch below their demographic weight in Texas.
    At Presidential elections the Democrats have become much more competitive in North Carolina and Florida compared with the 1980s and earlier. The former still leans Republican but Obama carried the state in 2008 and lost narrowly in 2012.Until the 1990s Florida had been a safe Republican state rather than the 'toss-up ' of recent elections.
    Florida has been a bellwether State for at least 60 years.
    Until Clinton carried the state in 1996, Florida had only supported the Democrats since 1948 in the LBJ 1964 landslide and Carter's 1976 win.
    1960 and 1992 are the only two years that Florida has not supported the winner, since 1928.

    So, Republican in 1928, Democratic from 1932 to 1948, Republican from 1952 to 1960, Democratic in 1964, Republican in 1968 and 1972, Democratic in 1876, Republican from 1980 to 1992, Democratic in 1996, Republican in 2000 (by 539 votes!) and 2004, Democratic in 2008 and 2012, and Republican in 2016.

    That's a swing State by any definition.
    I certainly see Florida as a swing state nowadays, but until 1996 it had generally voted Republican by clear margins even in tight election years such as 1960 and 1968. Carter's southern background probably helped him there in 1976.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067

    May could end up with only Ken Clarke, Anna Soubry, Sarah Woolaston, Nicky Morgan and Dominic Grieve available to fill Cabinet positions.

    And probably Hammond too.

    That would be a pretty decent Cabinet - much better than most of the dimwits that occupy Cabinet positions today...
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