Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
They still haven't sorted out the boundary between Welwyn Hatfield and Hertsmere. It runs higgldy piggldy through the top of Potters Bar when there's enough rural bits to give potentially clean boundaries. Looking at the comments, it was gratifying to see that someone agreed with my original comment on there that Hertsmere is a stupid constituency with no shared history or direct links.
Surely that is a problem of the local council boundaries? Hertsmere constituency was coterminous with Hertsmere Borough and now just has London Colney added.
They still haven't sorted out the boundary between Welwyn Hatfield and Hertsmere. It runs higgldy piggldy through the top of Potters Bar when there's enough rural bits to give potentially clean boundaries. Looking at the comments, it was gratifying to see that someone agreed with my original comment on there that Hertsmere is a stupid constituency with no shared history or direct links.
One other thing that I've just noticed if you look at the comments. The full address is listed of anyone who's commented.
Yes. Does the information commissioner know people's full addresses are being divulged?
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The Chequers whitepaper does not deliver Brexit.
We object specifically to the following aspects of the Chequers white paper:
- The common rule book allows ECJ overrule and severely hampers new free trade deals
- The backstop allows Northern Ireland to be separated from the rest of the UK
- Free movement of labour permits EU citizens to collect benefits whether in or out of work, without making UK contributions
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
So, On Friday I asked the question "What value do you think my house bought 5 years ago for £250,000 will be surveyed at"
Lots of you settled in for around £300,000ish pounds. The survey says: £335,000.
The property market is utterly mental. 85 Grand increase in 5 years is nonsense.
Wow, you did buy well. Congratulations. I will be interested to learn if you get + or - valuation on the sale. In a rapidly rising market it is usually + because the valuation is itself based on older transactions.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The Chequers whitepaper does not deliver Brexit.
We object specifically to the following aspects of the Chequers white paper:
- The common rule book allows ECJ overrule and severely hampers new free trade deals
- The backstop allows Northern Ireland to be separated from the rest of the UK
- Free movement of labour permits EU citizens to collect benefits whether in or out of work, without making UK contributions
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
That was my assessment which is why I would support a Chequers style agreement (through gritted teeth). In fact the 3rd is contrary to Chequers which indicates that there will be an end to free movement (whether the EU are minded to accept that "division of the 4 freedoms" or not is likely to be the biggest sticking point IMO).
I think we could have done better but not from here and the alternatives available are worse. The incompetence of Davis and indeed Boris as well as May over the last 18 months carries a price.
I think Baker's analysis is more valid. On (2) Even if the EU accept Chequers, the EU are going to insist on the legal NI backstop and offer a non-binding paper on trade. In fact, legally the EU cannot commit to a binding position on trade (which makes you wonder why we are bothering to negotiate with them...). So Baker is right that there is every chance that the end outcome will be the EU accept Chequers, then later claim it doesn't solve NI and insist on the backstop.
May's mobility framework is undefined, but everyone seems to think that it will be FoM by another name.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The Chequers whitepaper does not deliver Brexit.
We object specifically to the following aspects of the Chequers white paper:
- The common rule book allows ECJ overrule and severely hampers new free trade deals
- The backstop allows Northern Ireland to be separated from the rest of the UK
- Free movement of labour permits EU citizens to collect benefits whether in or out of work, without making UK contributions
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
They still haven't sorted out the boundary between Welwyn Hatfield and Hertsmere. It runs higgldy piggldy through the top of Potters Bar when there's enough rural bits to give potentially clean boundaries. Looking at the comments, it was gratifying to see that someone agreed with my original comment on there that Hertsmere is a stupid constituency with no shared history or direct links.
Oxford proposals are not what I was expecting.
Oxford East - gone. Oxford West and Abingdon gone.
New seat of Oxford - which looks very safe Labour seat to me
New seat of Abingdon and Oxford North - maybe safer for Layla Moran than OxWAb is at present - but that is far from certain. It is a very strangely shaped constituency indeed.
I can't bothered to check but I am pretty certain Cook has got more runs in this test than in the other 4 put together.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea. They have scored at a good rate this morning (the partnership is averaging 3.9 runs an over despite the desperately slow going yesterday evening) and need to keep that up for the next 30 overs. With Buttler, Stokes and Bairstow being let loose that really shouldn't be difficult.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5. Edit: If England get a move on, he should probably declare once the lead hits 400.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The Chequers whitepaper does not deliver Brexit.
We object specifically to the following aspects of the Chequers white paper:
- The common rule book allows ECJ overrule and severely hampers new free trade deals
- The backstop allows Northern Ireland to be separated from the rest of the UK
- Free movement of labour permits EU citizens to collect benefits whether in or out of work, without making UK contributions
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
The Tories screwed up by putting a referendum in their manifesto and destroying the Lib Dems who they hoped would continue with them and veto the vote.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
Completely off topic: Does anyone have the email address of a sentient being in HMRC's software team? We're trying to file my wife's tax return and there is a server-end error every single time at the final stage (when she confirms that it's all correct and wants to submit it). Needless to say the helpdesks haven't the faintest clue and ignore the actual content of what we tell them. Anyone got any ideas of how to escalate it?
Is it one of their accursed fill-in-the-blank PDFs? Last time I had an issue like that, I solved it by the desperately tedious procedure of starting over with a new file and manually retyping everything into that.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
Cook and Root should push on for double-centuries before declaring.
“The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history.
“We are already beginning with zero tariffs, and we are already beginning at the point of maximal regulatory equivalence, as it is called. In other words, our rules and our laws are exactly the same.”
Key word should. If you bother to read the full article he goes on to say that politics could interfere ... but you already knew that so why are you being deceptive?
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
Cook and Root should push on for double-centuries before declaring.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
Cook and Root should push on for double-centuries before declaring.
India would settle for that !
Not sure, they'll go in totally demoralised, with nothing to play for and with a 500-run lead England could have an incredibly aggressive field for the rest of the Test.
They still haven't sorted out the boundary between Welwyn Hatfield and Hertsmere. It runs higgldy piggldy through the top of Potters Bar when there's enough rural bits to give potentially clean boundaries. Looking at the comments, it was gratifying to see that someone agreed with my original comment on there that Hertsmere is a stupid constituency with no shared history or direct links.
Oxford proposals are not what I was expecting.
Oxford East - gone. Oxford West and Abingdon gone.
New seat of Oxford - which looks very safe Labour seat to me
New seat of Abingdon and Oxford North - maybe safer for Layla Moran than OxWAb is at present - but that is far from certain. It is a very strangely shaped constituency indeed.
It is. On balance I think it's probably good for Layla, but there's not much in it. Kirtlington being in Abingdon & Oxford North is arguably more sensible than it being in Henley, at any rate...
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
Cook and Root should push on for double-centuries before declaring.
India would settle for that !
Not sure, they'll go in totally demoralised, with nothing to play for and with a 500-run lead England could have an incredibly aggressive field for the rest of the Test.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea.
That should be what happens but Root's captaincy frequently isn't to the same standard as his batting. I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
They almost certainly have enough runs already. It is just a question of psychologically crushing them and leaving them without hope now and that is a legitimate tactic. For the first time in this excellent series the Indian bowlers are looking weary and short of ideas. Their seamers have been superb.
Cook and Root should push on for double-centuries before declaring.
India would settle for that !
Not sure, they'll go in totally demoralised, with nothing to play for and with a 500-run lead England could have an incredibly aggressive field for the rest of the Test.
Surviving 93 overs is easier than surviving 110 !
We should be able to back ourselves to get 10 wickets in 93 overs.
Conservatives in Milton Keynes will be toasting the Boundary Commission.
2 Tory held marginals.
The numbers and regional boundaries mean that 2 wards have to be thrown out of MK into Buckingham. Boundary Commission proposed a Lab/Con marginal and a Con ward. Have now changed it (back) to the Lab/Con marginal and a Labour stronghold (Wolverton) This will make holding Milton Keynes South *much* easier next time for the Tories.
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
I hear Barrow in Furness needs a new candidate with keen interest in nuclear issues?
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
Oi! You can stop all this moving him in next door to me stuff
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
PB publishes different pieces by differing contributors.
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
That is quite a poor show
It isn't.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
Conservatives in Milton Keynes will be toasting the Boundary Commission.
2 Tory held marginals.
The numbers and regional boundaries mean that 2 wards have to be thrown out of MK into Buckingham. Boundary Commission proposed a Lab/Con marginal and a Con ward. Have now changed it (back) to the Lab/Con marginal and a Labour stronghold (Wolverton) This will make holding Milton Keynes South *much* easier next time for the Tories.
Glad to see the commission doing their job to ensure a Tory majority at the next GE.
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
That is quite a poor show
It isn't.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
Plus I am sure that I have read some comments below the line on PB that were not entirely respectful of the thread header. It's a free country and a free site for which we should be grateful.
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
Oi! You can stop all this moving him in next door to me stuff
He'll bring Seumas, Diane, John, Owen et al with him.
I can't help feeling that the first sentence should be rephrased. Sadiq might not be the greatest of mayors, but even his sharpest critics don't claim that he's personally been engaged in a summer of violent crime!
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
Oi! You can stop all this moving him in next door to me stuff
He'll bring Seumas, Diane, John, Owen et al with him.
You'll love it.
His crew won't spend any time in his constituency - they will be too busy trying to defeat the enemy. Other Labour MPs...
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
That is quite a poor show
It isn't.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
"It isn't."
Do we have the luxury to think what we like, with no settled view?
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
Oi! You can stop all this moving him in next door to me stuff
He'll bring Seumas, Diane, John, Owen et al with him.
I can't help feeling that the first sentence should be rephrased. Sadiq might not be the greatest of mayors, but even his sharpest critics don't claim that he's personally been engaged in a summer of violent crime!
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The Chequers whitepaper does not deliver Brexit.
We object specifically to the following aspects of the Chequers white paper:
- The common rule book allows ECJ overrule and severely hampers new free trade deals
- The backstop allows Northern Ireland to be separated from the rest of the UK
- Free movement of labour permits EU citizens to collect benefits whether in or out of work, without making UK contributions
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
The Tories screwed up by putting a referendum in their manifesto and destroying the Lib Dems who they hoped would continue with them and veto the vote.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
Eric pickles gave advice to conservative councillors. How a crisis can be used to do things you wouldn’t normally think possible to do. Ie. Local government spending cuts would allow you to ditch the enormous amount of dead wood floating around your council. With this Brexit would be an ideal means for the government to make those kind of welfare changes. Taking ourself out of the single market is nothing more than sodding self harm. We have an immigration issue that has pushed up numbers and flatlined wages at the bottom end, along with the fact that many people don’t like the changes that have happened in their area of other areas.
How we manage our welfare system is up to us. Stay in single market and create contributions based welfare eligibility. Enforce rules on free movement of people and actively remove those here for more than threee months without a means to support themselves (as is allowed).
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
That is quite a poor show
It isn't.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
Plus I am sure that I have read some comments below the line on PB that were not entirely respectful of the thread header. It's a free country and a free site for which we should be grateful.
Well it seems a little poor to me that instead of saying "Remember last weeks header about hypothetical polling..." a lot of people are commenting along the lines of "See I told you Brexit would lead to a united Ireland..." with no reference to the previous header. Chelyabinsk made a good spot in my opinion.
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Plus the run rate of this partnership has just gone over 4 an over. They are hardly taking time out of the game.
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
You've covered the upper part of the body with the last two responses. I suspect the third response will stray below the waist.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
The Tories screwed up by putting a referendum in their manifesto and destroying the Lib Dems who they hoped would continue with them and veto the vote.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
Eric pickles gave advice to conservative councillors. How a crisis can be used to do things you wouldn’t normally think possible to do. Ie. Local government spending cuts would allow you to ditch the enormous amount of dead wood floating around your council. With this Brexit would be an ideal means for the government to make those kind of welfare changes. Taking ourself out of the single market is nothing more than sodding self harm. We have an immigration issue that has pushed up numbers and flatlined wages at the bottom end, along with the fact that many people don’t like the changes that have happened in their area of other areas.
How we manage our welfare system is up to us. Stay in single market and create contributions based welfare eligibility. Enforce rules on free movement of people and actively remove those here for more than threee months without a means to support themselves (as is allowed).
I am more concerned Brexit will give underperforming schools, hospitals, and councils an opportunity to be s***.
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Plus the run rate of this partnership has just gone over 4 an over. They are hardly taking time out of the game.
True. I'm going to guess there'll be a declaration at 4:30-5:00.
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
The Tories screwed up by putting a referendum in their manifesto and destroying the Lib Dems who they hoped would continue with them and veto the vote.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
Eric pickles gave advice to conservative councillors. How a crisis can be used to do things you wouldn’t normally think possible to do. Ie. Local government spending cuts would allow you to ditch the enormous amount of dead wood floating around your council. With this Brexit would be an ideal means for the government to make those kind of welfare changes. Taking ourself out of the single market is nothing more than sodding self harm. We have an immigration issue that has pushed up numbers and flatlined wages at the bottom end, along with the fact that many people don’t like the changes that have happened in their area of other areas.
How we manage our welfare system is up to us. Stay in single market and create contributions based welfare eligibility. Enforce rules on free movement of people and actively remove those here for more than threee months without a means to support themselves (as is allowed).
I am more concerned Brexit will give underperforming schools, hospitals, and councils an opportunity to be s***.
3 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece entitled 'Why you should be wary of hypothetical polling'. It explains how 'people are generally bad' at 'explaining how they decide their votes' and 'entertaining counterfactuals'. This fits with the generally accepted principles of political polling (e.g. 'polls asking about how people would vote in hypothetical situations aren’t particularly useful', Anthony Wells)
10 September 2018: Politicalbetting publishes a piece explaining how a hypothetical poll 'clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland', and supports it with a second hypothetical poll showing 'more than one in four in Northern Ireland claiming that they would at least consider abandoning support for the Union in favour of a united Ireland post Brexit'.
That is quite a poor show
It isn't.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
"It isn't."
Do we have the luxury to think what we like, with no settled view?
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
Plus I am sure that I have read some comments below the line on PB that were not entirely respectful of the thread header. It's a free country and a free site for which we should be grateful.
Well it seems a little poor to me that instead of saying "Remember last weeks header about hypothetical polling..." a lot of people are commenting along the lines of "See I told you Brexit would lead to a united Ireland..." with no reference to the previous header. Chelyabinsk made a good spot in my opinion.
That is presumably because you disagree with it. As you are free to do. And Chelyabinsk is entitled to point out the inconsistency. The only times I have been disappointed with PB is when argumentative if somewhat intemperate voices have been banned. We have lost some good contributors that way over the years. Disagreements are what keep this site alive.
why ? it has been obvious for quite some time a deal will be done. It's only in the ramped up environment here that people have missed the cues. But now standby for months of partisan biuckering of its the wrong deal.
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
Looking at their website, they list three specific gripes:
The second is irrelevant if a deal is reached, and by definition irrelevant if a deal isn't reached. The third seems to be wrong. That leaves the first, which has some force, but is hardly a ditch to die on.
Nope the third is 100% correct, you can roll up to the UK get an NI number and immediately start to claim benefits. Why do you think I continually state that Brexit is due to Brown / Blair refusing to move to a contribution based welfare system....
Is it because you blame Labour for every Tory calamity visited on the country?
The Tories screwed up by putting a referendum in their manifesto and destroying the Lib Dems who they hoped would continue with them and veto the vote.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
Eric pickles gave advice to conservative councillors. How a crisis can be used to do things you wouldn’t normally think possible to do. Ie. Local government spending cuts would allow you to ditch the enormous amount of dead wood floating around your council. With this Brexit would be an ideal means for the government to make those kind of welfare changes. Taking ourself out of the single market is nothing more than sodding self harm. We have an immigration issue that has pushed up numbers and flatlined wages at the bottom end, along with the fact that many people don’t like the changes that have happened in their area of other areas.
How we manage our welfare system is up to us. Stay in single market and create contributions based welfare eligibility. Enforce rules on free movement of people and actively remove those here for more than threee months without a means to support themselves (as is allowed).
I am more concerned Brexit will give underperforming schools, hospitals, and councils an opportunity to be s***.
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Plus the run rate of this partnership has just gone over 4 an over. They are hardly taking time out of the game.
True. I'm going to guess there'll be a declaration at 4:30-5:00.
Somewhat boringly I agree. I would have preferred 4 so they could make some real progress tonight but Root is cautious.
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
The Broxtowe proposals are unchanged, and would lead to most of Anna Soubry's seat being divided into two with bits added on from Nottingham and Hucknall, both of which would be less Tory than the current one because of the additions. Nottingham West and Beeston would be Labour in most years (Beeston has zero Tory borough councillors); Broxtowe & Hucknall pretty marginal and presumably the one AS would try to hold.
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
Barnet?
Nah, that's miles away! BTW I was in Hucknall on Saturday, some bicycle race going on and some bands playing. Saw Lord Byron and Ada Lovelace tomb.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
Plus I am sure that I have read some comments below the line on PB that were not entirely respectful of the thread header. It's a free country and a free site for which we should be grateful.
Well it seems a little poor to me that instead of saying "Remember last weeks header about hypothetical polling..." a lot of people are commenting along the lines of "See I told you Brexit would lead to a united Ireland..." with no reference to the previous header. Chelyabinsk made a good spot in my opinion.
That is presumably because you disagree with it. As you are free to do. And Chelyabinsk is entitled to point out the inconsistency. The only times I have been disappointed with PB is when argumentative if somewhat intemperate voices have been banned. We have lost some good contributors that way over the years. Disagreements are what keep this site alive.
Disagree with the claim that Brexit would lead to a united Ireland do you mean? I have no opinion either way, wouldn't claim to have any idea, although I am inclined to agree with the proposition that hypothetical polling shouldn't be trusted too much.
Prediction: Labour MPs whose seats are abolished will resign as a protest against Corbyn or antisemitism or Corbyn's antisemitism, on a point of principle.
Conservative MPs will resign as a protest against Chequers or for a second referendum, on a point of principle.
A safe prediction.
Watch Wales especially where 40 MPs are chasing 29 seats. This is a big, big cull.
Let’s see what happens to multimillionaire Stephen Kinnock, whose constituency is dismembered. Although he is the darling of the Guardian, he is pretty much reviled in his constituency, as it seems he did not tell the full truth about the private education of his daughter at the original selection meeting for grindingly poor, Brexity Aberavon. He could be the biggest casualty of the cull.
There are 2 Tory Pembrokeshire MPs fighting for one seat (Crabb & Hart). There are 2 Tory North Walian MPs fighting for one seat (Bebb & Jones). I suspect this is behind the rumblings from Bebb at the weekend.
There are 4 Labour Cardiff MPs fighting for 3 seats. In North East Wales, there are 5 Labour MPs fighting for 3 seats.
Incidentally (and possibly importantly), Plaid Cymru could probably be bought on side for the Commons vote if the diminution is accompanied by more powers for the Welsh Assembly. They don’t do too badly out of the proposals, they will probably retain 3 seats and have a chance at Arfon & Anglesey (though Labour are favourites there).
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
I have you down as a dog groomer
but not in a healthy way
I am afraid that bit of banter has gone over my head somewhat, Mr Two Tits. Maybe I have underestimated you and I have just been verbally skewered without knowing it
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
I have you down as a dog groomer
but not in a healthy way
I am afraid that bit of banter has gone over my head somewhat, Mr Two Tits. Maybe I have underestimated you and I have just been verbally skewered without knowing it
Rook/Cook partnership inching toward 250. Aside from my personal irritation with the lack of slogging at this stage, it must be demoralising for a field to face the same pair for so very long.
Plus the run rate of this partnership has just gone over 4 an over. They are hardly taking time out of the game.
True. I'm going to guess there'll be a declaration at 4:30-5:00.
Somewhat boringly I agree. I would have preferred 4 so they could make some real progress tonight but Root is cautious.
They need to change gear to a 50 over run-rate. Then Twenty20 after tea.
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
That’s Viscount Two Tits, to you.
Even better. The real Viscount Alanbrooke, being a military man, would have perhaps been more amused by the reference, though he would have probably referred to Generals Montgomery and Patton as deserving of the "two shits" title
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
I have you down as a dog groomer
but not in a healthy way
I am afraid that bit of banter has gone over my head somewhat, Mr Two Tits. Maybe I have underestimated you and I have just been verbally skewered without knowing it
so no denial of your doggy desires ?
Reminds me of the old Jethro joke where he said he asked his wife if he could do it to her doggy fashion and she said she would as long as she didn't have to bark and that they did it in a street where no one would recognise her
Ah, Mr Archer, those mystical benefits of Brexit. Much spoken about, but somewhat lacking in any detail. Snakeoil alert!
The EU have already acknowledged them. Barnier is now on record saying that the UK not being subject to EU regulations JUST ON SERVICES will be worth tens of billions a year in advantage to the UK. That is why he rejected the Chequers approach.
Of course, if you think the EU don't know what they are talking about.....
Haha, you have taken over the title of official PB Comical Ali. Did you do a deal with Alanbrooke when he realised that the role was making him look a bit silly? Stop trying to con yourself and others. Brexit is a disaster for the country and those that advocated it will be held to account.
tit
Just got back to my PC to enjoy your response. Nice to see you upholding the reputation of the rapier wit and eloquence of the average leaver
tit
Excellent again. I have changed my nickname for you. You are no longer Comical Ali. You will now for ever be known as Alan Two Tits Brooke
I have you down as a dog groomer
but not in a healthy way
I am afraid that bit of banter has gone over my head somewhat, Mr Two Tits. Maybe I have underestimated you and I have just been verbally skewered without knowing it
so no denial of your doggy desires ?
Reminds me of the old Jethro joke where he said he asked his wife if he could do it to her doggy fashion and she said she would as long as she didn't have to bark and that they did it in a street where no one would recognise her
..but just to disappoint your strange fantasies Mr Two Tits, I have no experience of Caninophilia.
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Next time Robert is on PB mention it to him.
I think he has Richard’s email and might be better informed.
Click on the arrow on the right to move the slides.
May's mobility framework is undefined, but everyone seems to think that it will be FoM by another name.
Oxford East - gone. Oxford West and Abingdon gone.
New seat of Oxford - which looks very safe Labour seat to me
New seat of Abingdon and Oxford North - maybe safer for Layla Moran than OxWAb is at present - but that is far from certain. It is a very strangely shaped constituency indeed.
I think if England can get another 100 in this coming session they should be looking to put the Indians in shortly after tea. They have scored at a good rate this morning (the partnership is averaging 3.9 runs an over despite the desperately slow going yesterday evening) and need to keep that up for the next 30 overs. With Buttler, Stokes and Bairstow being let loose that really shouldn't be difficult.
I think he'll put India in with ~ 40 minutes to go (~ 5:50) when he might have declared at say 5.
Edit: If England get a move on, he should probably declare once the lead hits 400.
The latter is more nuanced but working tax credits attract a type of immigrant I don't see in Denmark / Austria (picking places I've worked in over the past few years)...
Equally I can fully understand why Brown / Blair didn't introduce contribution based welfare when it was suggested to do so - sadly (for obvious reasons) Labour is the only party who could do so and they dropped the ball here...
As for JC's constituency being abolished, I suspect he would not have difficulty in getting selection as the Labour candidate anywhere he chose.
2 Tory held marginals.
The numbers and regional boundaries mean that 2 wards have to be thrown out of MK into Buckingham. Boundary Commission proposed a Lab/Con marginal and a Con ward. Have now changed it (back) to the Lab/Con marginal and a Labour stronghold (Wolverton) This will make holding Milton Keynes South *much* easier next time for the Tories.
1) They were written by different authors, Mike gives us the luxury to write what we like. There's no settled PB view.
2) Keiran's a very respected pollster, as is Ariel Edwards-Levy, whose tweet thread the first article is based on, is the Polling Editor of the Huffington Post.
3) Chelyabinsk missed out Keiran's quote which was ' So although this poll clearly shows that Brexit shifts opinion on a united Ireland in Northern Ireland, the scale of that shift and how a border poll plays out in practice is unclear.'
You'll love it.
Do we have the luxury to think what we like, with no settled view?
With this Brexit would be an ideal means for the government to make those kind of welfare changes. Taking ourself out of the single market is nothing more than sodding self harm. We have an immigration issue that has pushed up numbers and flatlined wages at the bottom end, along with the fact that many people don’t like the changes that have happened in their area of other areas.
How we manage our welfare system is up to us. Stay in single market and create contributions based welfare eligibility. Enforce rules on free movement of people and actively remove those here for more than threee months without a means to support themselves (as is allowed).
Verhofstedt offers to team up with Macron in the Euro elections
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/liberale-im-eu-parlament-fuer-allianz-mit-macrons-partei-15780672.html
it has been obvious for quite some time a deal will be done. It's only in the ramped up environment here that people have missed the cues.
But now standby for months of partisan biuckering of its the wrong deal.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-elections-2019/news/macrons-aide-were-not-discussing-alliance-with-verhofstadt/
but not in a healthy way
BTW I was in Hucknall on Saturday, some bicycle race going on and some bands playing. Saw Lord Byron and Ada Lovelace tomb.
Had he honoured Fibonacci with 11235, test history would have been very different (and we might have found a replacement by now).
Watch Wales especially where 40 MPs are chasing 29 seats. This is a big, big cull.
Let’s see what happens to multimillionaire Stephen Kinnock, whose constituency is dismembered. Although he is the darling of the Guardian, he is pretty much reviled in his constituency, as it seems he did not tell the full truth about the private education of his daughter at the original selection meeting for grindingly poor, Brexity Aberavon. He could be the biggest casualty of the cull.
There are 2 Tory Pembrokeshire MPs fighting for one seat (Crabb & Hart). There are 2 Tory North Walian MPs fighting for one seat (Bebb & Jones). I suspect this is behind the rumblings from Bebb at the weekend.
There are 4 Labour Cardiff MPs fighting for 3 seats. In North East Wales, there are 5 Labour MPs fighting for 3 seats.
Incidentally (and possibly importantly), Plaid Cymru could probably be bought on side for the Commons vote if the diminution is accompanied by more powers for the Welsh Assembly. They don’t do too badly out of the proposals, they will probably retain 3 seats and have a chance at Arfon & Anglesey (though Labour are favourites there).
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