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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,062

    RobD said:

    What is the spider principle?

    A Facebook group for NATS.
    Don't you Anglosplain me!! (I learned this word today from one of our Scottish Nationalist fasc...sorry contributors)
    what a lowlife
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    mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    edited September 2018
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    Evidence number 1533 in the case entitled "Are most Brexieers thick, or do they just understand nothing about both our constitution and the EU (when they claim to understand so much)?"
    The questions cited by CarlottaVance don't indicate a higher level of intelligence on the other side of the Committee.
    I agree. Stupidity and ignorance of constitutional matters are the complete preserve of those who support Brexit
    Good to see you dismissing 17 million people as idiots then, typical of the worst kind of diehard Remainer to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as an idiot
    Oh dear, the usual crap. It is perfectly legitimate say that people make stupid decisions based on ignorance without necessarily saying they are all idiots. That kind of nonsense might worry politicians, but thankfully doesn't cut any ice here.

    For the record I don't think all people who voted Brexit are thick. there will be a large number who are. There may even be some people who voted Remain who may not be that clever.

    However, anyone who thinks that Brexit is more important than avoiding the Anti-Semite Corbyn become PM has clearly not been born with much intelligence at all, or they have been lobotomised.
    No they just respect democracy and believe the future of our national sovereignty is more important even than winning a general election against a socialist, country comes first. General election results can be reversed, loss of sovereignty is much harder to do hence the likes of Norway voted to stay out of the EEC/EU and would still do so today
    Shit, have I got to explain the sovereignty thing to you again? I have tried to be polite, but you really are a bonehead.
    Including regulations most UK law comes from the EU now
    Only according to obsessively partisan sources, I believe. Of course for the EU law proportion were directly involved in the drafting so even the EU derived part is arguably misleading. It will be more uncomfortable when we take or shadow EU laws we have little or no direct influence over. Perhaps the public voted for that.

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    Alistair said:

    Meanwhile Raab says we need to be true to our commitment to the Northern Ireland backstop and he hopes it won't ever come into effect but if it does it should be for a "very finite short period".

    We’re selling out the Orangemen.

    Hurrah.
    I'll update my image with the cup falling off the orange.
    Thank you.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,062

    RobD said:

    What is the spider principle?

    A Facebook group for NATS.
    Don't you Anglosplain me!! (I learned this word today from one of our Scottish Nationalist fasc...sorry contributors)
    I’ve been Natsplained on here.

    My favourite was from a Nat the day before the Indyref when some of us dared to predict a No Victiry.

    The response was ‘The clueless wonders are in for a shock’

    I suppose he could have been talking about his fellow Nats.
    Oh that is a relief, I did understand you correctly the first time. I thought for a moment you might have been referring to National Air Traffic System which is a system for helping those people who are genuinely up in the clouds
    Fantasists appealing to each others fantasies, only on here?
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,763

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    Evidence number 1533 in the case entitled "Are most Brexieers thick, or do they just understand nothing about both our constitution and the EU (when they claim to understand so much)?"
    The questions cited by CarlottaVance don't indicate a higher level of intelligence on the other side of the Committee.
    I agree. Stupidity and ignorance of constitutional matters are the complete preserve of those who support Brexit
    Good to see you dismissing 17 million people as idiots then, typical of the worst kind of diehard Remainer to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as an idiot
    Oh dear, the usual crap. It is perfectly legitimate say that people make stupid decisions based on ignorance without necessarily saying they are all idiots. That kind of nonsense might worry politicians, but thankfully doesn't cut any ice here.

    For the record I don't think all people who voted Brexit are thick. there will be a large number who are. There may even be some people who voted Remain who may not be that clever.

    However, anyone who thinks that Brexit is more important than avoiding the Anti-Semite Corbyn become PM has clearly not been born with much intelligence at all, or they have been lobotomised.
    No they just respect democracy and believe the future of our national sovereignty is more important even than winning a general election against a socialist, country comes first. General election results can be reversed, loss of sovereignty is much harder to do hence the likes of Norway voted to stay out of the EEC/EU and would still do so today
    Shit, have I got to explain the sovereignty thing to you again? I have tried to be polite, but you really are a bonehead.
    For someone still relatively new to politicalbetting.com I’m not sure why you think the best way to make an impact is to be so rude.

    It doesn’t do you much credit.
    I thought he said he was a returnee under a different name

    Its just wind-ups
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,085
    edited September 2018
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Frankfurter Allgemeine article of Frankfurt as a finance centre. Basically they conclude they cant function without London in the short to medium term


    http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/euro-clearing-was-ist-das-eigentlich-15772685.html

    "Interpol and Deutsche Bank
    FBI and Scotland Yard"
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1036182320523431936
    Much more pleasing to look at, don’t you think? :D
    I'd prefer Scotland to be entirely blue, then I'd be very happy.
    But the total absence of Labour when other parties still have seats is quite exquisite too.....
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    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1036182320523431936
    Much more pleasing to look at, don’t you think? :D
    I'd prefer Scotland to be entirely blue, then I'd be very happy.
    Can only be a matter of time.

    https://twitter.com/jim45cotland/status/1036803282226872320
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    edited September 2018

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
    £595,000 in London buys - what? A shitty ex-local authority flat in a war zone.

    Or in County Durham, you can get this - three and half acres, tennis court.....

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66473183.html
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,107
    edited September 2018
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    HYUFD said:
    Well, that’s me convinced.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    What is the spider principle?

    A Facebook group for NATS.
    But what have spiders got to do with it? Madness.
    Robert, Earl of Bruce, a leading English nobleman was fond of spiders I believe
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    HYUFD said:
    Trouble with an endorsement from a comedian - you never know if they are being ironic.....
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    stodge said:

    "People Familiar With The Matter" - what the blood and sawdust does that mean? Some bloke I met down the bar who knows a little more than I do.

    Really?

    Forex markets move on such insubstantial nonsense - good luck if you want to play. Just start a rumour Theresa May has resigned and play accordingly.
    It’s a technical term of art.

    It means people not directly involved but only one step from those involved
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    PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    PClipp said:

    FF43 said:

    Dominic Raab possibly undershoots the low bar set by David Davis as Brexit Sec. When MPs in committee ask valid questions about what you are doing don't tell them to get a backbone and score partisan points. He's a, politician. Surely he can flannel? I'm taking the issue very seriously, blah, taking immediate steps, waffle, working hard for a good outcome and so on. Raab's just making himself and his enterprise look even more idiotic than they were in the first place.

    Is that possible?
    Mr Raab is a Tory, Mr Foremain. Yes, he can do it!
    At least he's no Vince Cable who threatened to deploy his nuclear weapon when some undercover journalists batted their eyelashes at him.
    Tory mythology, Mr Eagles. The young ladies weren`t there fluttering eyelashes - they were there pretending to be constituents and expressing anxiety about the dominance of the Murdoch empire. At the time, Vince Cable was the Secretary for Business in the fondly remembered Coalition Government. And a very good job he did of it too - you Tories boasted of all his achievements in the 2015 general election, and tried to pass them off as your own.

    But when the story hit the headlines, almost immediately the feeble Cameron took away the Sky takeover from his remit and handed it over to some useless Tory cretin who was already well under the influence of the Murdoch empire. However, he fell over his shoelaces, and it had to be passed on yet again. Or is my memory playing me false?

    You Tories sell the country short, every step of the way.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,291
    edited September 2018
    HYUFD said:
    It isnt really new news, he endorsed him in 2016. He is a big Bernie fan, so given Corbyn is often sold as the UK equivalent, really rather unsurprising.
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    Were the Salisbury attacks a dry run.
    My wild conspiracy theory to throw out there is that the Russians have realised that the plot from the Fourth Protocol by Freddy Forsythe may be in with a chance of working this time.
    Labour in with a shout of winning the next GE and and taken over by the hard left.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited September 2018

    Were the Salisbury attacks a dry run.
    My wild conspiracy theory to throw out there is that the Russians have realised that the plot from the Fourth Protocol by Freddy Forsythe may be in with a chance of working this time.
    Labour in with a shout of winning the next GE and and taken over by the hard left.

    Yes but that was nuclear weapons

    Next you will be accusing Leavers of being members of the Dornford Yates Fan Club

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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,195

    Were the Salisbury attacks a dry run.
    My wild conspiracy theory to throw out there is that the Russians have realised that the plot from the Fourth Protocol by Freddy Forsythe may be in with a chance of working this time.
    Labour in with a shout of winning the next GE and and taken over by the hard left.

    The thought had occurred to me that they were testing our ability to treat novichok.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125

    HYUFD said:
    Trouble with an endorsement from a comedian - you never know if they are being ironic.....
    Which comedian?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    felix said:

    HYUFD said:
    Trouble with an endorsement from a comedian - you never know if they are being ironic.....
    Which comedian?
    You're right, he wasn't funny in Taxi.....
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1036182320523431936
    Much more pleasing to look at, don’t you think? :D
    I'd prefer Scotland to be entirely blue, then I'd be very happy.
    Can only be a matter of time.

    https://twitter.com/jim45cotland/status/1036803282226872320
    Hard to do much when you ain’t in power.
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    I see there's calls for the 8 Labour MPs who voted against full IHRA to 'stand up' but what about the dozen whose response was to spoil their ballot paper...

    I wonder if the shadow minister for truth will clear this up for what he did at least?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,052
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    Yes, and then there is the spectre of negative equity when house prices do drop.

    It would be interesting to see whether the apparant blueing of young reds has changed over time.

    And on that note:

    https://twitter.com/The_TUC/status/1037359569977131008?s=19
    Even Trump hates Amazon and Hammond is likely to tax them more in the Budget
    When you say "even", it would be more accurate to say "Donald Trump hates Amazon because the Washington Post, which Jeff Bezos owns, is critical of him."

    If the WP fawned over Trump, I'm sure that he would soon drop his criticism.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
    £595,000 in London buys - what? A shitty ex-local authority flat in a war zone.

    Or in County Durham, you can get this - three and half acres, tennis court.....

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66473183.html
    If it is so great, why is it so desolate? Why doesn't everyone move there?

    Lack of jobs? Amenities? Etc ....
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    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
    £595,000 in London buys - what? A shitty ex-local authority flat in a war zone.

    Or in County Durham, you can get this - three and half acres, tennis court.....

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66473183.html
    If it is so great, why is it so desolate? Why doesn't everyone move there?

    Lack of jobs? Amenities? Etc ....
    Is full of Geordies and Mackems.

    You can't understand the buggers.
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    All attempts to big up the 0.01% outcome of an MI6 fit-up of Mother Russia have aged poorly.

    Within nano-seconds of posting.
    What’s gorgeous saying tonight then?

    Don’t tell me he’s lost his voice. :).
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,352
    edited September 2018

    I see there's calls for the 8 Labour MPs who voted against full IHRA to 'stand up' but what about the dozen whose response was to spoil their ballot paper...

    I wonder if the shadow minister for truth will clear this up for what he did at least?

    Don't you mean stand down along with the others who spoilt their ballot papers

    If my figures are right 52 current labour mps aquiesce to anti semitism

    That is shocking in a main UK party
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    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1036182320523431936
    Much more pleasing to look at, don’t you think? :D
    I'd prefer Scotland to be entirely blue, then I'd be very happy.
    Can only be a matter of time.

    https://twitter.com/jim45cotland/status/1036803282226872320
    Hard to do much when you ain’t in power.
    Last I heard Tessy is in power. You're not suggestig that Ruth saying she 'will argue Scotland's case "forcefully" to the prime minister' may not have been a rock solid statement of intent?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,970
    Today's internet winner: Rubio !
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,970

    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
    £595,000 in London buys - what? A shitty ex-local authority flat in a war zone.

    Or in County Durham, you can get this - three and half acres, tennis court.....

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66473183.html
    My other half and some friends of ours posted this one up in North Wales for 625... https://www.lucasestateagents.com/fulldetails.vbhtml?property-for-sale&luc1001205&coch-y-mieri_llandonna_ll588tr
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    felix said:

    HYUFD said:
    Trouble with an endorsement from a comedian - you never know if they are being ironic.....
    Which comedian?
    Danny De Vito.. American comedian.. None of his fecking business
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "French school mobile phone ban comes into force

    New law comes into force as survey finds majority of British parents would support similar legislation in the UK"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/france-mobile-phone-ban-school-french-government-students-a8521961.html
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137

    All attempts to big up the 0.01% outcome of an MI6 fit-up of Mother Russia have aged poorly.

    Within nano-seconds of posting.
    What’s gorgeous saying tonight then?

    Don’t tell me he’s lost his voice. :).
    Cat got his tongue.....
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    I see there's calls for the 8 Labour MPs who voted against full IHRA to 'stand up' but what about the dozen whose response was to spoil their ballot paper...

    I wonder if the shadow minister for truth will clear this up for what he did at least?

    Don't you mean stand down along with the others who spoilt their ballot papers

    If my figures are right 52 current labour mps aquiesce to anti semitism

    That is shocking in a main UK party
    I would agree but in their eyes they presumably are being pure Corbynite - so why not claim this as 'kudos' to their followers. The rest of us might judge them by other standards.
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    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    In most of the UK outside of London and the South you can buy a house for under £200 000 on average, it is mainly the fact London is the biggest global city in Europe makes house prices so expensive there and to a lesser extent in the commuter belt home counties.

    In the Midlands and North and Wales many have bought their first property by the time they are 30 and the Tories now win more seats and a higher voteshare there than in London when you add the fact the provinces are more pro Brexit than the Capital too
    Can confirm. Just bought our first property in Newcastle at age 26. Many of my colleagues and acquaintances bought houses at a much younger age than this, especially those who live outside Newcastle - in the old pit villages of Northumberland and Co. Durham where property is dirt cheap.
    £595,000 in London buys - what? A shitty ex-local authority flat in a war zone.

    Or in County Durham, you can get this - three and half acres, tennis court.....

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66473183.html
    If it is so great, why is it so desolate? Why doesn't everyone move there?

    Lack of jobs? Amenities? Etc ....
    Is full of Geordies and Mackems.

    You can't understand the buggers.
    I think you'll find that the good folk of Lanchester are neither Geordies nor Mackems.

    Pit Yackers round those parts.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,896

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    365,000 became first time buyers last year. Outside Greater London, and some other urban hotspots, it's the norm for people to get on to the property ladder.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,896
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    The full set are here:

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1037273833462542336?s=19

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?
    Most people won't be Generation Rent by the time they turn 40 or so.
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    NEW THREAD

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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137
    Sean_F said:

    Foxy said:

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?

    How can they? The "Boomers" have priced them out of the market. They will be "Generation Rent" for decades
    365,000 became first time buyers last year. Outside Greater London, and some other urban hotspots, it's the norm for people to get on to the property ladder.
    Yep. Generation Rent are largely in already Labour-voting metropolitan ghettoes. Where all the supposedly smart people live, but toiling all hours God sends to pay a gazillion quid a month per square foot in places with high crime and dreadful air quality......
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Sean_F said:

    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    Where’s the map of the election where only old biddies vote?

    The full set are here:

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1037273833462542336?s=19

    Historically, youngsters trended Tory as they got established in secure jobs, married and bought houses. Whether Generation Rent will do the same, who can know?
    Most people won't be Generation Rent by the time they turn 40 or so.
    Errrr.
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