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  • For ex I didn't know where Mark Hoban was until now. John, confess, did you know it?!
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295

    For ex I didn't know where Mark Hoban was until now. John, confess, did you know it?!

    Yes. He's ex Treasury (lots of poison for tim) and is has been doing some solid work behind the scenes. I'm a bit surprised he's being replaced so soon; fingers crossed for promotion not the sack. He's a Tory moderate so by definition is pleasing ;)
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    Nicky Morgan is the new Economic Secretary
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    Here we go again....

    Nicky Morgan has been appointed as Economic Secretary at Treasury
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    If I was Ed I would look at giving Chris Leslie a more prominent role. He's usually good on tv, more experienced than Reeves, who needs to work on communication.
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536
    @Andrea

    What the hell is he doing in Muswell Hill?
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400

    For ex I didn't know where Mark Hoban was until now. John, confess, did you know it?!


    Mark Hoban is one of the more visible Ministers since he is on the telly every month when the unemployment figures come out. While he was ok, its probably a position that could afford to have a more aggressive person, especially as the election approaches.
  • @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.
  • Plato said:

    They used to have Lembit Opik, the esteemed Estonian!

    Plato said:

    Love this

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 1m
    Joke in Westminster is this is a minorities reshuffle: "ethnic Tory MPs, women Tory MPs, northern Tory MPs...and fans of George Osborne"

    If only the LDs could appoint an ethnic minority MP to a ministerial job.
    I'm just glad he never touched my bum...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Quau1l9JuY
    I have no sound on my computer at work which is, quite honestly, the perfect way to watch that video... again and again. :-)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Some growth revisions and estimates out today

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/business-news-markets-live/10359913/Business-news-and-markets-live.html

    "EuroZone Q2 GDP revised lower to -0.6% from -0.5% y/y - EuroStat"

    "Capital Economics has revised up its growth forecasts for 2013 and 2014.
    Growth for this year is now expected to be 1.5pc, up from previous estimate of 1.2pc

    Given that GDP in Q3 seems to have at least matched Q2’s 0.7% expansion, our previous forecast of growth in 2013 as a whole of 1.2% looks a little pessimistic.

    Growth for next year is now expected to be 2.5pc, up from 2pc."
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295

    @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.

    Don't tell anyone - and I mean anyone - but my peerage will be announced at 3.00pm (according to usually reliable sources @neil-the-green)
  • ok, if it's the guy for employment figures, I've seen him. I didn't learn his name.

    So now will it be Esther commenting employment rates?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    OT Oh I wish I still had another 23 episodes of Supernatural to watch instead - I'm drumming my fingers until early on Wednesday for S9E1...

    The angels have fallen to Earth after Metatron threw a hissy fit when God left. If Muslims ever managed to produce a series like this - I imagine many Christians would be a lot more tolerant a la Life of Brian.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02M7xPG3_0
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Was that clip from Pop off their Tops?
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    According to the BBC Hoban has been fired. That's a shame.
  • I should probably study Tory MPs more. Because when I look at divisions, I can classify some as Tory MPs just because I know they aren't Labour or LD.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    LOL

    Plato said:

    They used to have Lembit Opik, the esteemed Estonian!

    Plato said:

    Love this

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 1m
    Joke in Westminster is this is a minorities reshuffle: "ethnic Tory MPs, women Tory MPs, northern Tory MPs...and fans of George Osborne"

    If only the LDs could appoint an ethnic minority MP to a ministerial job.
    I'm just glad he never touched my bum...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Quau1l9JuY
    I have no sound on my computer at work which is, quite honestly, the perfect way to watch that video... again and again. :-)
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    via Guido Tweet: Comprehensive educated Northerner Mark Hoban sacked...
  • Reminder to Dave and Ed. At 3PM I need to leave computer. So, finish by the hour
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    @Plato Try and catch the pilot episode of the Blacklist which aired last Friday on Sky, this looks like a very promising series starring the superb James Spader.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    tim said:

    JohnO said:

    According to the BBC Hoban has been fired. That's a shame.


    Southern seat, male, not Osborne stooge.

    It's like watching a Southern Pals battalion being ordered over the top by the Chinless Clique at Military Headquarters.
    Idiot. Hoban had been a member of Osborne's Treasury team continuously from 2005 until his move to DWP. For goodness sake, man, grow up.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    Posionous, like an incompetent Brown

    Woah - ok now we know you are definitely intoxicated - as if Brown wasn't incompetent...
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    What does Ed Miliband do about a problem called Andy Burnham when it comes to his own Shadow Cabinet reshuffle?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    fitalass said:

    What does Ed Miliband do about a problem called Andy Burnham when it comes to his own Shadow Cabinet reshuffle?

    Ask Len....

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    fitalass said:

    What does Ed Miliband do about a problem called Andy Burnham when it comes to his own Shadow Cabinet reshuffle?

    NHS Trust chairman?
  • Liam Byrne sacked?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    felix said:

    fitalass said:

    What does Ed Miliband do about a problem called Andy Burnham when it comes to his own Shadow Cabinet reshuffle?

    NHS Trust chairman?
    Mascara counter at Selfridges?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,985
    Why would Cameron want to promote a load of Osborne stooges? Is he just weak?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Liam Byrne sacked?

    On a piece of paper saying 'there's no job left'?

  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    Reminder of current junion roles

    That's how the government looked like until yesterday

    https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers

    That's how the shadow team was

    http://www.labour.org.uk/shadow-cabinet
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Oh I *heart* James Spader! He's just superb in Boston Legal - my DVDs are almost worn out.

    Thanxxx for the tip

    If you haven't seen Supernatural - your boys will surely love it - I've watched all 8 series 4x and could do it again - funny and dramatic.

    This is just hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Jl7YNmZiQ
    fitalass said:

    @Plato Try and catch the pilot episode of the Blacklist which aired last Friday on Sky, this looks like a very promising series starring the superb James Spader.

  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    David Hughes ‏@DavidHughesPA

    Jeremy Corbyn and Peter Tatchell arrive at No 10. Somehow don't think they're here for the #reshuffle
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Ah its even got its own #tag.

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 4m
    Mark Hoban sacked. Already Lab pointing out he's comp-educated MP from the North (born in Peterlee). #flatcapreshuffle?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709

    Jeremy Corbyn and Peter Tatchell arrive at No 10.

    Smart. Cameron's trailing in the polls, he needs to make bold moves.
  • Reports that Vernon Coaker will leave Shadow Northern Ireland....Ballsite...where will he go?
  • tim said:

    Plato said:

    They used to have Lembit Opik, the esteemed Estonian!

    Plato said:

    Love this

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 1m
    Joke in Westminster is this is a minorities reshuffle: "ethnic Tory MPs, women Tory MPs, northern Tory MPs...and fans of George Osborne"

    If only the LDs could appoint an ethnic minority MP to a ministerial job.
    I'm just glad he never touched my bum...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Quau1l9JuY
    I have no sound on my computer at work which is, quite honestly, the perfect way to watch that video... again and again. :-)
    Is that the Romanian surge you fear is uncontrollable?

    Not sure it's Romanian but it is definitely uncontrollable.
  • Prisk: Been asked to step aside from Housing for a younger generation. Disappointing but it's been a great eleven years on frontbench."
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Ha!

    David Hughes ‏@DavidHughesPA

    Jeremy Corbyn and Peter Tatchell arrive at No 10. Somehow don't think they're here for the #reshuffle

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    edited October 2013
    ''Mark Hoban sacked. Already Lab pointing out he's comp-educated MP from the North (born in Peterlee). ''

    How dare they allude to his background. Ed ought to review his party's culture and practices now.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Laughing at Socialist Labour playing the obsessive class card.
  • Not followed all of this, but is it true that of the 3 Blairites in the shadow cabinet 2 (Twigg and Byrne) are going leaving Murphy all alone?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    JohnO said:

    @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.

    Don't tell anyone - and I mean anyone - but my peerage will be announced at 3.00pm (according to usually reliable sources @neil-the-green)
    JohnO said:

    @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.

    Don't tell anyone - and I mean anyone - but my peerage will be announced at 3.00pm (according to usually reliable sources @neil-the-green)
    Lord O of Ballentaylor and Ballylemon. The Osborne connections there should see you on the front bench when he becomes PM.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I know some of you miss my cat pix - here's something to keep you going

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV-YYzxIQAARLVm.jpg
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    tim said:

    Plato said:

    They used to have Lembit Opik, the esteemed Estonian!

    Plato said:

    Love this

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 1m
    Joke in Westminster is this is a minorities reshuffle: "ethnic Tory MPs, women Tory MPs, northern Tory MPs...and fans of George Osborne"

    If only the LDs could appoint an ethnic minority MP to a ministerial job.
    I'm just glad he never touched my bum...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Quau1l9JuY
    I have no sound on my computer at work which is, quite honestly, the perfect way to watch that video... again and again. :-)
    Is that the Romanian surge you fear is uncontrollable?

    Not sure it's Romanian but it is definitely uncontrollable.
    The Romanian and Bulgarian surge is a big factor in the Ukip percentage at GE2015, one that I don't think those that rely on on past data are taking fully into account
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    taffys said:

    ''Mark Hoban sacked. Already Lab pointing out he's comp-educated MP from the North (born in Peterlee). ''

    How dare they allude to his background. Ed ought to review his party's culture and practices now.

    Can we expect a tear stained letter to The Daily Mail?

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Can we expect a tear stained letter to The Daily Mail?

    plus a chorus of braying from the leftie commentariat?
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    Neil said:

    JohnO said:

    @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.

    Don't tell anyone - and I mean anyone - but my peerage will be announced at 3.00pm (according to usually reliable sources @neil-the-green)
    JohnO said:

    @John O

    Thanks. I confess he passed my radar.

    Don't tell anyone - and I mean anyone - but my peerage will be announced at 3.00pm (according to usually reliable sources @neil-the-green)
    Lord O of Ballentaylor and Ballylemon. The Osborne connections there should see you on the front bench when he becomes PM.
    I'd rather be Ballytoblerone than Bally bloody lemon! But needs must I suppose....
  • who will get fisheries and disabled now?
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    LD Jeremy Browne sacked at Home Office according to the Telegraph
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    tim said:

    Laughing at Socialist Labour playing the obsessive class card.

    It's Number Ten briefing about a "flat cap reshuffle" isn't it?

    Whereas the Tories think they can sort out their problem by leaving Osborne and Hunt, the primary incompetent chums in the two key election portfolios.

    You're the one busy bashing away at Little Timmy, whilst endlessly repeating 'flat cap' to yourself. Triple figure mention by tea time?

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    whilst endlessly repeating 'flat cap' to yourself. Triple figure mention by tea time?

    There's no link or evidence any tory has used the term 'flat cap'
  • Completely OT. Still stuck offshore in the Atlantic. Day 32. Still foggy. We had some clear weather over the weekend but apparently the helicopter pilots all went home.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Not followed all of this, but is it true that of the 3 Blairites in the shadow cabinet 2 (Twigg and Byrne) are going leaving Murphy all alone?

    Murphy is bombproof surely ?

    If he were to go that would be a total purge of the middle ground types in the shad cabinet.
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    Given that Ed's probably gained a taste for hijacking the media narrative over the last few weeks with "courageous" moves like going after energy companies and the Mail, what are the chances of a more-significant-than-expected shadow cabinet reshuffle in order to dominate tomorrow's headlines and appear less "weak"? If he wants to get rid of Balls (unclear, and possibly nuclear) then that would be the obvious play. Judging by previous family pronouncements, if he promoted Yvette as a replacement, which would be a good move, then he could probably get away without provoking a civil war, moving Balls to education (where he's good at annoying Gove) or health (not obvious why, but I'll think of a reason shortly).,
  • isam said:

    tim said:

    Plato said:

    They used to have Lembit Opik, the esteemed Estonian!

    Plato said:

    Love this

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 1m
    Joke in Westminster is this is a minorities reshuffle: "ethnic Tory MPs, women Tory MPs, northern Tory MPs...and fans of George Osborne"

    If only the LDs could appoint an ethnic minority MP to a ministerial job.
    I'm just glad he never touched my bum...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Quau1l9JuY
    I have no sound on my computer at work which is, quite honestly, the perfect way to watch that video... again and again. :-)
    Is that the Romanian surge you fear is uncontrollable?

    Not sure it's Romanian but it is definitely uncontrollable.
    The Romanian and Bulgarian surge is a big factor in the Ukip percentage at GE2015, one that I don't think those that rely on on past data are taking fully into account
    Methinks you missed the point of the exchange there isam. Needless to say it was nowhere near as high brow as you might think.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587

    Jeremy Corbyn and Peter Tatchell arrive at No 10.

    Smart. Cameron's trailing in the polls, he needs to make bold moves.
    Like!

  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    Quiet moment reshuffle wise, so I need some pb help (don't we all?).

    Since the last round of vanilla changes, I can now only access the new pb threads by emptying the Firefox cache. No longer will clicking the link do the trick? Another of my laptops has the same problem but the third works fine. How do I solve this minor irritation?

    Thanks in advance and even tim gets an e-hug if he provides the answer!
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    What's this? Why has he been dumped? A very solid performer - the Tories would love him on their side.

    Tim Shipman (Mail) @ShippersUnbound
    Jezza Browne is a real surprise. Lib Dems not exactly drowning in talent. Will he now defect?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    For history buffs - you'd love this account and its Tory opposite number who are are very friendly terms

    RT @LabourHistory: Detailed Conservative Research Dept analysis of Labour's 1983 manifesto in latest release from @thatcherites archive: http://t.co/tT2zPZw7Sg
  • Norman Baker replaces Browne
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim - given the recent growth and unemployment figures the nation is all team Osborne now...
  • Andrew Robathan to Northern Ireland
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Plato said:

    OT Oh I wish I still had another 23 episodes of Supernatural to watch instead - I'm drumming my fingers until early on Wednesday for S9E1...

    The angels have fallen to Earth after Metatron threw a hissy fit when God left. If Muslims ever managed to produce a series like this - I imagine many Christians would be a lot more tolerant a la Life of Brian.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02M7xPG3_0

    Wasn't life of Brian censored, denounced, and banned in various places? Or am I missing the point?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    JohnO said:

    Quiet moment reshuffle wise, so I need some pb help (don't we all?).

    Since the last round of vanilla changes, I can now only access the new pb threads by emptying the Firefox cache. No longer will clicking the link do the trick? Another of my laptops has the same problem but the third works fine. How do I solve this minor irritation?

    Thanks in advance and even tim gets an e-hug if he provides the answer!

    The same has started happening for me. I just click on the top entry in the Archive sidebar and it takes me straight to the latest thread.

    There's bound to be an elegant solution but now I've got a workaround I'm happy.

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    tim,

    Surely Ozzie will only replace Cameron if the latter does well in 2015.

    If Cam loses, its unlikely Ozzie will replace him, no matter how many chessmen he has in place.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    GeoffM said:

    JohnO said:

    Quiet moment reshuffle wise, so I need some pb help (don't we all?).

    Since the last round of vanilla changes, I can now only access the new pb threads by emptying the Firefox cache. No longer will clicking the link do the trick? Another of my laptops has the same problem but the third works fine. How do I solve this minor irritation?

    Thanks in advance and even tim gets an e-hug if he provides the answer!

    The same has started happening for me. I just click on the top entry in the Archive sidebar and it takes me straight to the latest thread.

    There's bound to be an elegant solution but now I've got a workaround I'm happy.

    Gosh, that's clever. Thanks!
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    Baroness Susan Kramer resurrected to replace Baker. Apparently


  • Dougie is EdM's office.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    tim said:

    taffys said:

    tim,

    Surely Ozzie will only replace Cameron if the latter does well in 2015.

    If Cam loses, its unlikely Ozzie will replace him, no matter how many chessmen he has in place.

    It's still ridiculous that Cameron is allowing the man who trashed the party's polling twice in the last four years free rein

    I know...promoting people of pure poison like Javid. Makes a rich white boy living in Merseyside sick with hatred, doesn't it.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Polruan said:

    Given that Ed's probably gained a taste for hijacking the media narrative over the last few weeks with "courageous" moves like going after energy companies and the Mail, what are the chances of a more-significant-than-expected shadow cabinet reshuffle in order to dominate tomorrow's headlines and appear less "weak"? If he wants to get rid of Balls (unclear, and possibly nuclear) then that would be the obvious play. Judging by previous family pronouncements, if he promoted Yvette as a replacement, which would be a good move, then he could probably get away without provoking a civil war, moving Balls to education (where he's good at annoying Gove) or health (not obvious why, but I'll think of a reason shortly).,

    Balls was like a sailor on shore leave as education secretary in the run up to the last election. He was shamelessly pissing money all over the spot with the knowledge that he wouldnt have to pick up the bill. Something Gove will be pretty good at throwing back.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,658
    Plato said:

    For history buffs - you'd love this account and its Tory opposite number who are are very friendly terms

    RT @LabourHistory: Detailed Conservative Research Dept analysis of Labour's 1983 manifesto in latest release from @thatcherites archive: http://t.co/tT2zPZw7Sg


    back to the future.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    @tim - Wasn't me who equated Javid with pure poison. You should stay away from that send button.
  • Hancock: Skills & Enterprise
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    notme said:

    Polruan said:

    Given that Ed's probably gained a taste for hijacking the media narrative over the last few weeks with "courageous" moves like going after energy companies and the Mail, what are the chances of a more-significant-than-expected shadow cabinet reshuffle in order to dominate tomorrow's headlines and appear less "weak"? If he wants to get rid of Balls (unclear, and possibly nuclear) then that would be the obvious play. Judging by previous family pronouncements, if he promoted Yvette as a replacement, which would be a good move, then he could probably get away without provoking a civil war, moving Balls to education (where he's good at annoying Gove) or health (not obvious why, but I'll think of a reason shortly).,

    Balls was like a sailor on shore leave as education secretary in the run up to the last election. He was shamelessly pissing money all over the spot with the knowledge that he wouldnt have to pick up the bill. Something Gove will be pretty good at throwing back.
    That line works well with Tory core vote (at least the ones who aren't voting for UKIP these days) but doesn't resonate so well elsewhere. As with health, so with education: it plays badly with many voters (particularly parents) to boast about how little you're spending. It's also not an attack that works so well coming from someone who's diverted a lot of money to increase school places in areas with excess space at the same time as there's a significant shortage in other areas.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    What a miserable reshuffle!
    After all the PR kerfuffle,
    Cammo can't muffle
    calls to see him go. :D
  • Helen Grant moved to Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Sport & Equalities
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Baroness Susan Kramer resurrected to replace Baker. Apparently


    Dearie me - this is turning out to be a bad reshuffle for the LDs.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    Grant had Equalities before. Now she got Sport too. Hugh Robertson (sport) moved to Minister of State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    ...to much higher things as FCO Minister of State.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    tim said:

    JohnO said:

    @tim - Wasn't me who equated Javid with pure poison. You should stay away from that send button.

    It was you that singled out the one non-white Osborne acolyte when you have so many promoted stooges to choose from.


    I suppose even I was surprised at the extent of your racism.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited October 2013
    editing. wrong
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2013
    What's the opinion on Labours reshuffle?

    My hunch is that Ed Balls will be 'promoted' to shadow under-secretary of state for stationary.
  • JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    Polruan said:

    notme said:

    Polruan said:

    Given that Ed's probably gained a taste for hijacking the media narrative over the last few weeks with "courageous" moves like going after energy companies and the Mail, what are the chances of a more-significant-than-expected shadow cabinet reshuffle in order to dominate tomorrow's headlines and appear less "weak"? If he wants to get rid of Balls (unclear, and possibly nuclear) then that would be the obvious play. Judging by previous family pronouncements, if he promoted Yvette as a replacement, which would be a good move, then he could probably get away without provoking a civil war, moving Balls to education (where he's good at annoying Gove) or health (not obvious why, but I'll think of a reason shortly).,

    Balls was like a sailor on shore leave as education secretary in the run up to the last election. He was shamelessly pissing money all over the spot with the knowledge that he wouldnt have to pick up the bill. Something Gove will be pretty good at throwing back.
    It's also not an attack that works so well coming from someone who's diverted a lot of money to increase school places in areas with excess space at the same time as there's a significant shortage in other areas.

    Yes, the Tories really cut the amount of money going towards increasing school places...


    "It therefore provided core capital funding to authorities totalling £400 million a year from 2007-08 to 2010-11, to help cover local growth in need for places....

    Under its 2010 Spending Review settlement in October 2010, the Department doubled its specific core funding for new places to £800 million a year from 2011-12 to 2014-15"

    http://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/10089-001_Capital-funding-for-new-school-places.pdf

    p24
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    @ShippersUnbound 34m
    Jeremy Browne is a victim of Nick Clegg's desire to make it look like Lib Dems could jump into bed with Labour in 2015.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Dan Hodges @DPJHodges
    Just for clarity, Norman Baker concluded Kelly wasn't bumped off by MI5. But by an Iraqi hit squad. MI5 then covered it up.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    I do not necessarily believe this. Just trying to figure out how to copy and paste a tweet without messing up the bandwith.

    @ShippersUnbound 34m
    Jeremy Browne is a victim of Nick Clegg's desire to make it look like Lib Dems could jump into bed with Labour in 2015.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Matthew Sinclair @mjhsinclair
    MT @SkyNewsBreak: National Grid says risk of blackouts this Winter is at highest level since 2007 <- quick, close coal power plants!
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,709
    Plato said:

    Matthew Sinclair @mjhsinclair
    MT @SkyNewsBreak: National Grid says risk of blackouts this Winter is at highest level since 2007 <- quick, close coal power plants!</p>

    Were there blackouts from insufficient capacity in 2007?
  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    JonathanD said:

    Polruan said:

    notme said:

    Polruan said:

    Balls was like a sailor on shore leave as education secretary in the run up to the last election. He was shamelessly pissing money all over the spot with the knowledge that he wouldnt have to pick up the bill. Something Gove will be pretty good at throwing back.
    It's also not an attack that works so well coming from someone who's diverted a lot of money to increase school places in areas with excess space at the same time as there's a significant shortage in other areas.

    Yes, the Tories really cut the amount of money going towards increasing school places...


    "It therefore provided core capital funding to authorities totalling £400 million a year from 2007-08 to 2010-11, to help cover local growth in need for places....

    Under its 2010 Spending Review settlement in October 2010, the Department doubled its specific core funding for new places to £800 million a year from 2011-12 to 2014-15"

    http://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/10089-001_Capital-funding-for-new-school-places.pdf

    p24
    Context: I was replying to the suggestion that Gove would attack Balls for overspending in education by suggesting that wasn't smart for him to do; that's irrelevant of actual spending. If Gove is spending more, that just makes it more tricky. My other point is that he's spending it in the wrong places... so increased spending as you cite above is all very nice, but the free school programme means that it's achieving less than it should.

    So I don't really have a view on whether the Tories "really cut the amount of money going towards increasing school places" - but thanks for the link all the same, interesting reading.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?

    Kramer is Palestinian I think - in her head.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Matthew Hancock, a former aide to George Osborne, has been appointed as minister of state for skills and enterprise, a promotion from his role as Parliamentary Undersecretary of State. Perhaps Mr Hancock might cut off the mullet hairstyle he was sporting at the Conservative party conference? Not bad for an MP who compared his political career to Winston Churchill, William Pitt and Benjamin Disraeli in the Spectator last September.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10360141/MPs-reshuffle-live.html
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693

    Plato said:

    Matthew Sinclair @mjhsinclair
    MT @SkyNewsBreak: National Grid says risk of blackouts this Winter is at highest level since 2007 <- quick, close coal power plants!</p>

    Were there blackouts from insufficient capacity in 2007?
    Lol. Edmund Out-Platoing Plato.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,295
    TGOHF said:

    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?

    Kramer is Palestinian I think - in her head.
    Wasn't that Jenny Tonge who preceded Kramer as Richmond MP?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,847
    tim said:

    Lib Dem tweets

    Robin McGhee ‏@RobinMcGhee
    Norman Baker is now Minister of State in a department he accuses of state-sponsored murder in his book about death of David Kelly #reshuffle

    PB's prime arch-conspiracist complaining about a conspiracist!

    But as is said on Guido's post, the DV would be interesting.

    Actually, that brings up a point: are all candidates DV'ed well before a reshuffle, or is it done once they are promoted? And aren't there certain implications in ministers having to be DV'ed?

    Ah, a DT article answers my question: MPs and peers are exempt, but MI5 nudge-nudges the PM or LOTO if a potential member may be a security risk:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9757669/No-count-of-how-many-can-view-top-secret-documents.html
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    I thought that was Jenny Tonge.
    TGOHF said:

    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?

    Kramer is Palestinian I think - in her head.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    TGOHF said:

    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?

    Kramer is Palestinian I think - in her head.
    I think you're mixing her up with Jenny Tonge

    Correct - my bad - difficult to keep up with which LD hates Israel the most...
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Has Jeremy Browne left the Government in order to spend more time with his Tory voters? The man should just defect from the Orange book side to the blue side of the government benches and have done with it.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Susan Kramer was known for her yellow wellies during one the London mayoral elections.
    TGOHF said:

    tim said:

    TGOHF said:

    Any Lib Dem wimmin or ethnic minorities in the cabinet yet?

    Kramer is Palestinian I think - in her head.
    I think you're mixing her up with Jenny Tonge

    Correct - my bad - difficult to keep up with which LD hates Israel the most...
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