As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.
With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
Are you saying the deal is black and white?
Aren’t you back at work next week? What’s the opposite of ‘demob happy’?
My warm glow from holiday lasted three days, a personal record.
As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.
With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
Are you saying the deal is black and white?
Aren’t you back at work next week? What’s the opposite of ‘demob happy’?
My warm glow from holiday lasted three days, a personal record.
Mine usually finishes at 9.05 when the Head starts speaking.
One of the many things missing from this government is any hint of coordination of its moving parts. This starts at the top with the Treasury and the No 10 Policy Unit painting very different pictures on Brexit, effectively undermining each other. This is such an obvious weakness that any politician with the dimmest comprehension of the impact would have sought to address it a long time ago but neither of the current occupants aspire to such dizzy heights of competence.
As the person nominally in charge the main responsibility lies with Mrs May but her default setting for any problem is that if you ignore it for long enough it will go away. Hammond is boring and politically inept but he has been a steady hand on the tiller for the most part, even if he misses multiple opportunities to make political capital of the economy's achievements. He needs to remain in place until Brexit is done for that reason. He will go at the same time as May. I'd like to say that neither will be missed but I will reserve judgment on that until we see who replaces them.
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
They usually turn up late and require a lot of work from the subs. The last one barely made sense “UK = Greece”!
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
And to them, the ready wIt is often surplus to requirements.
One up to Jeremy Hunt for implied criticism of Boris.
Agreed that the exchange does them both credit. I was just being flippant.
Yes - more of this please, much more
At the risk of sounding contrarian, this is wrong. The foreign secretary's job is "2 do anything possible 2 help" UK citizens because they are UK citizens. Is he saying he'd have tried less hard if they had been less remarkable?
Two asylum seekers stabbed a german man to death and the town has erupted in left right violence. Police thought a demo would have a couple of hundred of the usual suspects but thousands turned up, violence broke out and the police lost control.
West germans shocked at events, east germans planning more of them.
As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.
With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
The outcomes can be blamed on the EU and so it's good we are out of that corrupt and unreasonable institution.
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
If he writes them David , or if they are not checked and corrected by someone clever.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
If he writes them David , or if they are not checked and corrected by someone clever.
Oh I am sure he writes them. They have a consistent voice. Sub editing may well be applied of course.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
His raw resignation statement was full of errors and typos. Took a bit of editing.
His newspaper pieces are generally well written, even at their most vacuous. He has a good turn of phrase and a ready wit. Unfortunately the requirements for an office of State are slightly more demanding than that.
If he writes them David , or if they are not checked and corrected by someone clever.
Oh I am sure he writes them. They have a consistent voice. Sub editing may well be applied of course.
IME pieces written when one is ‘tired and emotional’ or just emotional are rarely written in good English, and ignoring the spell checker is not normaly a good idea (unless it’s an American one).
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
One of the many things missing from this government is any hint of coordination of its moving parts. This starts at the top with the Treasury and the No 10 Policy Unit painting very different pictures on Brexit, effectively undermining each other. This is such an obvious weakness that any politician with the dimmest comprehension of the impact would have sought to address it a long time ago but neither of the current occupants aspire to such dizzy heights of competence.
As the person nominally in charge the main responsibility lies with Mrs May but her default setting for any problem is that if you ignore it for long enough it will go away. Hammond is boring and politically inept but he has been a steady hand on the tiller for the most part, even if he misses multiple opportunities to make political capital of the economy's achievements. He needs to remain in place until Brexit is done for that reason. He will go at the same time as May. I'd like to say that neither will be missed but I will reserve judgment on that until we see who replaces them.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Hammond is not immune from making decisions on the economy that go down badly with voters e.g. his planned increase in national insurance contributions for the self employed
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
I know you do not like it but given 17 million and 52% of voters voted to Leave the EU in the EU referendum to regain sovereignty and reduce immigration they will have an even tough let sell if they betray democracy and ignore that vote, especially as over 70% of current Tory voters voted Leave and an even higher percentage of 2017 voters once you include those who have defected to UKIP post Chequers Deal
One of the many things missing from this government is any hint of coordination of its moving parts. This starts at the top with the Treasury and the No 10 Policy Unit painting very different pictures on Brexit, effectively undermining each other. This is such an obvious weakness that any politician with the dimmest comprehension of the impact would have sought to address it a long time ago but neither of the current occupants aspire to such dizzy heights of competence.
As the person nominally in charge the main responsibility lies with Mrs May but her default setting for any problem is that if you ignore it for long enough it will go away. Hammond is boring and politically inept but he has been a steady hand on the tiller for the most part, even if he misses multiple opportunities to make political capital of the economy's achievements. He needs to remain in place until Brexit is done for that reason. He will go at the same time as May. I'd like to say that neither will be missed but I will reserve judgment on that until we see who replaces them.
I think Hammond and May are two peas in a pod.
They have similar weaknesses so they don't compliment each other in the way a good team does. Neither has much in the way of vision, neither can persuade, neither have a sense of humour that should be allowed out on its own. Both are decent people trying to do their best with a sense of duty and responsibility. It's not enough.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
One of the many things missing from this government is any hint of coordination of its moving parts. This starts at the top with the Treasury and the No 10 Policy Unit painting very different pictures on Brexit, effectively undermining each other. This is such an obvious weakness that any politician with the dimmest comprehension of the impact would have sought to address it a long time ago but neither of the current occupants aspire to such dizzy heights of competence.
As the person nominally in charge the main responsibility lies with Mrs May but her default setting for any problem is that if you ignore it for long enough it will go away. Hammond is boring and politically inept but he has been a steady hand on the tiller for the most part, even if he misses multiple opportunities to make political capital of the economy's achievements. He needs to remain in place until Brexit is done for that reason. He will go at the same time as May. I'd like to say that neither will be missed but I will reserve judgment on that until we see who replaces them.
I think Hammond and May are two peas in a pod.
They have similar weaknesses so they don't compliment each other in the way a good team does. Neither has much in the way of vision, neither can persuade, neither have a sense of humour that should be allowed out on its own. Both are decent people trying to do their best with a sense of duty and responsibility. It's not enough.
If you wanted 'vision' from Brexit Boris as PM and Gove as Chancellor was the way to go, May and Hammond are largely there as the EU does not do 'vision' beyond its own and any deal with the EU will be built on technicalities
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
If he pushes his luck too far she may do
In the metro it says how May “stood up” to Hammond (and Boris). As bad as the bad days of Blair/Brown. What more would constitute "pushing his luck"?
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
If he pushes his luck too far she may do
In the metro it says how May “stood up” to Hammond (and Boris). As bad as the bad days of Blair/Brown. What more would constitute "pushing his luck"?
To be fair Blair/Brown lasted for 10 years in government
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
And as I keep reminding folks, those Tory defections to UKIP will come home when there is no UKIP candidate to vote for. My current rule of thumb is if UKIP are on 6, add 2 points to the Tory score (Labour plus 1, Tory plus 3, will not vote plus 2).
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
If he pushes his luck too far she may do
In the metro it says how May “stood up” to Hammond (and Boris). As bad as the bad days of Blair/Brown. What more would constitute "pushing his luck"?
To be fair Blair/Brown lasted for 10 years in government
And was thoroughly dysfunctional and did the country great harm.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
The right is more solid than the left of the Tory party, at the moment. The rage is coming from europhiles.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
We really aren't racist. We really aren't morally abhorrent. You use that thinking as your comfort blanket, to stay amongst the real scum of British politics today.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
Did the poll find out if all 25 UKIP candidates supported UKIP?
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
We really aren't racist. We really aren't morally abhorrent. You use that thinking as your comfort blanket, to stay amongst the real scum of British politics today.
Some might think that morally abhorrent.
1. Dog Whistle racism by Boris to appeal to the dog whistle racism of members. Are all of you racist? No of course not. But it is there. 2. Your policies towards the disabled (to chose one example) are a moral disgrace. I haven't yet had anyone on here come forward and defend them in detail. Its always whataboutery. Which means you either can't defend them (because they you know they are abhorrent) or you don't know/care what the policies are and what they do. Not sure if that is worse...
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
I doubt UKIP has the money in the bank to lose ten deposits right now.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
Yeah good point in which case she should sack him.
If he pushes his luck too far she may do
In the metro it says how May “stood up” to Hammond (and Boris). As bad as the bad days of Blair/Brown. What more would constitute "pushing his luck"?
To be fair Blair/Brown lasted for 10 years in government
And was thoroughly dysfunctional and did the country great harm.
Amusingly, the PM is technically also known as First Lord of the Treasury.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
You have a rule book to deal with it but the people in charge of the rule book don't seem to think there is a problem.
As you may, ahem, have seen, I think you are one of the best posters on PB and I still have your pre-GE post about how well Corbyn could do and indeed he did do well. But you I hope are now seriously wondering what sort of a Labour Party has grown up around you, who is so passionate about providing local services to your residents (including Jews).
With the Cons, I have the belief that although there are definitely racists (and fruitcakes and loonies) in the party, the party hierarchy is firmly committed to weed it out and stamp down on it. You will always unearth footage of some former Labour shadow chancellor Conservative MP doing something stupid, perhaps actually racist, but the Party then moves into gear and people are expelled or censured. That is my perception.
This is not the case it seems with Labour. As that enemy of English people, the Chief Rabbi noted, you know people by their words and their actions. We have all seen Corbyn's actions and words over a period of 40 years, and you have so acutely and virulently criticised him when it comes to, say, his attitude to the EU or some other bonkers socialist ideal. But you seem to have a blind spot when he rolls out the anti-Jew rhetoric and behaviour.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
And as I keep reminding folks, those Tory defections to UKIP will come home when there is no UKIP candidate to vote for. My current rule of thumb is if UKIP are on 6, add 2 points to the Tory score (Labour plus 1, Tory plus 3, will not vote plus 2).
Some may, some may stay at home, some may indeed have a UKIP candidate to vote for but that depends on a Chequers type deal being agreed with the EU of course
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
I doubt UKIP has the money in the bank to lose ten deposits right now.
Presumbly why Farage is selling tickets for his new Brexit campaign.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
The right is more solid than the left of the Tory party, at the moment. The rage is coming from europhiles.
The left of the Tory party is now behind May, it is the ERG right who are angry as are left liberal 'People's vote' Europhile still
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
You have a rule book to deal with it but the people in charge of the rule book don't seem to think there is a problem.
As you may, ahem, have seen, I think you are one of the best posters on PB and I still have your pre-GE post about how well Corbyn could do and indeed he did do well. But you I hope are now seriously wondering what sort of a Labour Party has grown up around you, who is so passionate about providing local services to your residents (including Jews).
With the Cons, I have the belief that although there are definitely racists (and fruitcakes and loonies) in the party, the party hierarchy is firmly committed to weed it out and stamp down on it. You will always unearth footage of some former Labour shadow chancellor Conservative MP doing something stupid, perhaps actually racist, but the Party then moves into gear and people are expelled or censured. That is my perception.
This is not the case it seems with Labour. As that enemy of English people, the Chief Rabbi noted, you know people by their words and their actions. We have all seen Corbyn's actions and words over a period of 40 years, and you have so acutely and virulently criticised him when it comes to, say, his attitude to the EU or some other bonkers socialist ideal. But you seem to have a blind spot when he rolls out the anti-Jew rhetoric and behaviour.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
A very good post. Labour under Corbyn has descended into the abyss and the many thousands of decent labour members and supporters must be at their wits end. However, there must come a time when the decent majority of labour supporters rise up to strike down this cancer in their party.
They need to act quickly and I would suggest that post conference, especially if the leadership has struck down a peoples vote, is the ideal time.
Anything less is complicit to anti semetic views of Corbyn and his close cabal and will be fatal to labour as we know it
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
I appreciate your kind words. If I leave, my friends, my comrades all leave, then what becomes of the movement? We stay. We fight. We win.
Well I hope you do all those things. No sign of it yet, although I appreciate these things take longer than a 24-hour news cycle, or daily PB thread would prefer.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
We really aren't racist. We really aren't morally abhorrent. You use that thinking as your comfort blanket, to stay amongst the real scum of British politics today.
Some might think that morally abhorrent.
1. Dog Whistle racism by Boris to appeal to the dog whistle racism of members. Are all of you racist? No of course not. But it is there. 2. Your policies towards the disabled (to chose one example) are a moral disgrace. I haven't yet had anyone on here come forward and defend them in detail. Its always whataboutery. Which means you either can't defend them (because they you know they are abhorrent) or you don't know/care what the policies are and what they do. Not sure if that is worse...
1. The Boris who specifically wouldn't ban burqas? The "dog whistle racism" is the charge of those looking for - but not finding - real racism. "Oh, that's what he must have meant..." I'll remind you, Boris was elected Mayor of one of the most multicultural cities on Earth.
Twice.
And it wasn't exactly a city of burning crosses on the front lawns when he left office. What is noticeable is the rise in brutal crime since he's been replaced - by a Labour mayor.
2. Governing is mostly about 51:49 choices. Money has been very tight - due to the ususal fucked-up finances bequeathed by a Labour Govt. Except, this time they were monumentally fucked-up.
Maybe the 49% choice of reduced spending on the disabled was the wrong choice. But that needs to be put against the 51% choice alternative spend. Maybe they used their limited money on children's services instead. Does it make me comfortable that you can come on here with the dreadful personal experience of your disabled parents? Of course not. But I don't know what choices had to be made. And I suspect, neither do you. Maybe there are kids still healthy - or even, alive - as a result of 51:49 choices that went against your parents.
In neither of those two instances does it excuse staying amongst a party that drags its heels on addressing actual, point to it and gasp, living anti-semitism. Labou has become a nest of anti-semites, headed by a man either too stupid or too complicit to actually care. And yet you still hppily stuff leaflets through letterboxes for them...
As I said, some might think that morally abhorrent.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
I appreciate your kind words. If I leave, my friends, my comrades all leave, then what becomes of the movement? We stay. We fight. We win.
I genuinely wish you and your friends success in fighting the rancid anti semetic views headed up by Corbyn and his followers. How you succeed I dont know but ultimately if he leads labour into a GE you are aiding an anti semetic group into power
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
We really aren't racist. We really aren't morally abhorrent. You use that thinking as your comfort blanket, to stay amongst the real scum of British politics today.
Some might think that morally abhorrent.
1. Dog Whistle racism by Boris to appeal to the dog whistle racism of members. Are all of you racist? No of course not. But it is there. 2. Your policies towards the disabled (to chose one example) are a moral disgrace. I haven't yet had anyone on here come forward and defend them in detail. Its always whataboutery. Which means you either can't defend them (because they you know they are abhorrent) or you don't know/care what the policies are and what they do. Not sure if that is worse...
All parties include racists. The difference is that the Tory Party has fewer than in the past, while yours has a growing number, and your party hierarchy is quite relaxed about it. Not really something to boast about.
As for policies towards the disabled, the overarching aim as I perceive it is to get disabled people into work wherever possible and constrain the growth in the welfare budget. Clearly there have been multiple cases of injustice eg people having benefits cut when they are terminally ill, but these to me seem like failures of the machine of government rather than design.
I will never agree that it’s ‘compassionate’ to ignore the cost of any kind of welfare. It’s that kind of attitude which led Brown to run a deficit in a boom, and can lead to the IMF deciding what we can spend money on. It would interesting to compare provision for the disabled in Greece (and bearing in mind your leader’s sympathies, Venezuela) with the U.K.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
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1. Dog Whistle racism by Boris to appeal to the dog whistle racism of members. Are all of you racist? No of course not. But it is there. 2. Your policies towards the disabled (to chose one example) are a moral disgrace. I haven't yet had anyone on here come forward and defend them in detail. Its always whataboutery. Which means you either can't defend them (because they you know they are abhorrent) or you don't know/care what the policies are and what they do. Not sure if that is worse...
1. The Boris who specifically wouldn't ban burqas? The "dog whistle racism" is the charge of those looking for - but not finding - real racism. "Oh, that's what he must have meant..." I'll remind you, Boris was elected Mayor of one of the most multicultural cities on Earth.
Twice.
And it wasn't exactly a city of burning crosses on the front lawns when he left office. What is noticeable is the rise in brutal crime since he's been replaced - by a Labour mayor.
2. Governing is mostly about 51:49 choices. Money has been very tight - due to the ususal fucked-up finances bequeathed by a Labour Govt. Except, this time they were monumentally fucked-up.
Maybe the 49% choice of reduced spending on the disabled was the wrong choice. But that needs to be put against the 51% choice alternative spend. Maybe they used their limited money on children's services instead. Does it make me comfortable that you can come on here with the dreadful personal experience of your disabled parents? Of course not. But I don't know what choices had to be made. And I suspect, neither do you. Maybe there are kids still healthy - or even, alive - as a result of 51:49 choices that went against your parents.
In neither of those two instances does it excuse staying amongst a party that drags its heels on addressing actual, point to it and gasp, living anti-semitism. Labou has become a nest of anti-semites, headed by a man either too stupid or too complicit to actually care. And yet you still hppily stuff leaflets through letterboxes for them...
As I said, some might think that morally abhorrent.
I don't agree with your point 2. Osborne had a choice of cutting deficit using a mix of cuts and tax increases, or just mainly cuts. He choose the latter.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
You have a rule book to deal with it but the people in charge of the rule book don't seem to think there is a problem.
As you may, ahem, have seen, I think you are one of the best posters on PB and I still have your pre-GE post about how well Corbyn could do and indeed he did do well. But you I hope are now seriously wondering what sort of a Labour Party has grown up around you, who is so passionate about providing local services to your residents (including Jews).
With the Cons, I have the belief that although there are definitely racists (and fruitcakes and loonies) in the party, the party hierarchy is firmly committed to weed it out and stamp down on it. You will always unearth footage of some former Labour shadow chancellor Conservative MP doing something stupid, perhaps actually racist, but the Party then moves into gear and people are expelled or censured. That is my perception.
Really? Were Cameron and Goldsmith expelled after their Islamophobic campaign against Khan? And which was more important with Rosemary Carroll, weeding out racism or controlling Pendle's council?
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
I appreciate your kind words. If I leave, my friends, my comrades all leave, then what becomes of the movement? We stay. We fight. We win.
You obviously have great loyalty to the Labour Party. If there were a break away led by Ummuna, Benn, Cooper and Starmer and possibly joined by Kahn or Burnham would you be tempted or would you still want to stay put? Would Watson being a part of this be a plus or a minus?
If you were tempted what would that break away party want to stand for (other than presumably remaining in the EU)? Are you aware of any kind of platform that might be circling?
1. The Boris who specifically wouldn't ban burqas? The "dog whistle racism" is the charge of those looking for - but not finding - real racism. "Oh, that's what he must have meant..." I'll remind you, Boris was elected Mayor of one of the most multicultural cities on Earth.
Twice.
And it wasn't exactly a city of burning crosses on the front lawns when he left office. What is noticeable is the rise in brutal crime since he's been replaced - by a Labour mayor.
2. Governing is mostly about 51:49 choices. Money has been very tight - due to the ususal fucked-up finances bequeathed by a Labour Govt. Except, this time they were monumentally fucked-up.
Maybe the 49% choice of reduced spending on the disabled was the wrong choice. But that needs to be put against the 51% choice alternative spend. Maybe they used their limited money on children's services instead. Does it make me comfortable that you can come on here with the dreadful personal experience of your disabled parents? Of course not. But I don't know what choices had to be made. And I suspect, neither do you. Maybe there are kids still healthy - or even, alive - as a result of 51:49 choices that went against your parents.
In neither of those two instances does it excuse staying amongst a party that drags its heels on addressing actual, point to it and gasp, living anti-semitism. Labou has become a nest of anti-semites, headed by a man either too stupid or too complicit to actually care. And yet you still hppily stuff leaflets through letterboxes for them...
As I said, some might think that morally abhorrent.
I don't agree with your point 2. Osborne had a choice of cutting deficit using a mix of cuts and tax increases, or just mainly cuts. He choose the latter.
He really didn't. Had he done so public spending would not have increased consistently in real terms during his Chancellorship. And people like me would still have a personal allowance and be paying a lot less tax.
weak weak weak, she has no more rights than anyone else, getting exactly what she deserves.
It is the PM who is in effect the CEO and the Chancellor only serves at her discretion, it was also May who won most seats at GE17 not Hammond even if the result was not as good as she had hoped for
He played almost no part at all being sidelined and weakening the Tories' best claim to office. by largely sidelining economic management as well. One can only hope that whoever leads the Tories into the next election has the wit to realise it is not all about them and that for all the buffoons in the cabinet the gap between them as a group and the proposed shadow cabinet for Labour is truly vast and a compelling reason to re-elect the government, despite the disappointments.
Their sole policy in government is to implement a profoundly damaging policy, which they are doing with spectacular incompetence. They are going to have a very tough sell indeed at the next election.
So you will be betting against them getting most seats, will you Alastair?
I have been, yes. I’m very comfortable with that. The party of “fuck business” is going to be offering nothing positive to anyone.
Labour will need to gain about 30 Tory seats to win most seats at the next general election, even post Chequers and after Tory defections to UKIP most polls have them falling short of that
What is this UKIP of which you speak?
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
The UKIP polling 7% with Yougov now.
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
The right is more solid than the left of the Tory party, at the moment. The rage is coming from europhiles.
There’s far too much rage on both sides.
A consensus does need to be built around Chequers, or both sides will be very angry for years and interested in nothing more than complete and utter defeat of the other, which will never happen.
That Bastani tweet is the absolute end. I have submitted a formal complaint against the racist twat.
The absolute end would see you leaving the Party....
Why should I leave? We have a rule book to deal with this. And again, the alternative is a Tory government also racist who I find morally abhorrent.
snip
1. Dog Whistle racism by Boris to appeal to the dog whistle racism of members. Are all of you racist? No of course not. But it is there. worse...
1. The Boris who specifically wouldn't ban burqas? The "dog whistle racism" is the charge of those looking for - but not finding - real racism. "Oh, that's what he must have meant..." I'll remind you, Boris was elected Mayor of one of the most multicultural cities on Earth.
Twice.
And it wasn't exactly a city of burning crosses on the front lawns when he left office. What is noticeable is the rise in brutal crime since he's been replaced - by a Labour mayor.
2. Governing is mostly about 51:49 choices. Money has been very tight - due to the ususal fucked-up finances bequeathed by a Labour Govt. Except, this time they were monumentally fucked-up.
Maybe the 49% choice of reduced spending on the disabled was the wrong choice. But that needs to be put against the 51% choice alternative spend. Maybe they used their limited money on children's services instead. Does it make me comfortable that you can come on here with the dreadful personal experience of your disabled parents? Of course not. But I don't know what choices had to be made. And I suspect, neither do you. Maybe there are kids still healthy - or even, alive - as a result of 51:49 choices that went against your parents.
In neither of those two instances does it excuse staying amongst a party that drags its heels on addressing actual, point to it and gasp, living anti-semitism. Labou has become a nest of anti-semites, headed by a man either too stupid or too complicit to actually care. And yet you still hppily stuff leaflets through letterboxes for them...
As I said, some might think that morally abhorrent.
I don't agree with your point 2. Osborne had a choice of cutting deficit using a mix of cuts and tax increases, or just mainly cuts. He choose the latter.
The Conservatives have increased taxes on higher earners, substantially, since 2010.
Comments
One up to Jeremy Hunt for implied criticism of Boris.
https://youtu.be/trE_bkWUFsE
I can't find the one where he goes off on a huge ramble about Conservative policy, sadly.
I have to go. Have a good morning.
As the person nominally in charge the main responsibility lies with Mrs May but her default setting for any problem is that if you ignore it for long enough it will go away. Hammond is boring and politically inept but he has been a steady hand on the tiller for the most part, even if he misses multiple opportunities to make political capital of the economy's achievements. He needs to remain in place until Brexit is done for that reason. He will go at the same time as May. I'd like to say that neither will be missed but I will reserve judgment on that until we see who replaces them.
Two asylum seekers stabbed a german man to death and the town has erupted in left right violence. Police thought a demo would have a couple of hundred of the usual suspects but thousands turned up, violence broke out and the police lost control.
West germans shocked at events, east germans planning more of them.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/faz-net-sprinter-gehoert-sachsen-noch-zu-deutschland-15760532.html
Ireland heading for 3 dragons den TV bods competing to become president.
" so Mrs Windsor, I'll offer 200,000 Euros for a 10% share of your country"
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/the-trump-effect-three-dragons-den-investors-fired-up-for-presidential-race-37262456.html
Because of Gove’s betrayal we’re still going to be in the CFP post March 30th.
Be surprised if they field 25 candidates in 2022....
They polled more than 25 candidates in 2017
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/andrew-gullim-florida.html?
Gullim sounds a more savvy progressive than the usual Sanders endorsee, and his opponent will be this guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BYgM7yWgkY
In that case Mr Meeks’ bet will look rather expensive.
Some might think that morally abhorrent.
Oh dear.
It's a dance off !
Merkel to visit Africa this week.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/mehr-wirtschaft/afrika-muss-sich-selbst-um-investitionen-kuemmern-15760055.html
2. Your policies towards the disabled (to chose one example) are a moral disgrace. I haven't yet had anyone on here come forward and defend them in detail. Its always whataboutery. Which means you either can't defend them (because they you know they are abhorrent) or you don't know/care what the policies are and what they do. Not sure if that is worse...
As you may, ahem, have seen, I think you are one of the best posters on PB and I still have your pre-GE post about how well Corbyn could do and indeed he did do well. But you I hope are now seriously wondering what sort of a Labour Party has grown up around you, who is so passionate about providing local services to your residents (including Jews).
With the Cons, I have the belief that although there are definitely racists (and fruitcakes and loonies) in the party, the party hierarchy is firmly committed to weed it out and stamp down on it. You will always unearth footage of some
former Labour shadow chancellorConservative MP doing something stupid, perhaps actually racist, but the Party then moves into gear and people are expelled or censured. That is my perception.This is not the case it seems with Labour. As that enemy of English people, the Chief Rabbi noted, you know people by their words and their actions. We have all seen Corbyn's actions and words over a period of 40 years, and you have so acutely and virulently criticised him when it comes to, say, his attitude to the EU or some other bonkers socialist ideal. But you seem to have a blind spot when he rolls out the anti-Jew rhetoric and behaviour.
Why should you leave? Because I'm sorry to say that the Labour Party now is not the one you joined.
https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1034503986748030976?s=21
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/29/forget-profit-love-fun-innovation-parkrun
They need to act quickly and I would suggest that post conference, especially if the leadership has struck down a peoples vote, is the ideal time.
Anything less is complicit to anti semetic views of Corbyn and his close cabal and will be fatal to labour as we know it
Twice.
And it wasn't exactly a city of burning crosses on the front lawns when he left office. What is noticeable is the rise in brutal crime since he's been replaced - by a Labour mayor.
2. Governing is mostly about 51:49 choices. Money has been very tight - due to the ususal fucked-up finances bequeathed by a Labour Govt. Except, this time they were monumentally fucked-up.
Maybe the 49% choice of reduced spending on the disabled was the wrong choice. But that needs to be put against the 51% choice alternative spend. Maybe they used their limited money on children's services instead. Does it make me comfortable that you can come on here with the dreadful personal experience of your disabled parents? Of course not. But I don't know what choices had to be made. And I suspect, neither do you. Maybe there are kids still healthy - or even, alive - as a result of 51:49 choices that went against your parents.
In neither of those two instances does it excuse staying amongst a party that drags its heels on addressing actual, point to it and gasp, living anti-semitism. Labou has become a nest of anti-semites, headed by a man either too stupid or too complicit to actually care. And yet you still hppily stuff leaflets through letterboxes for them...
As I said, some might think that morally abhorrent.
As for policies towards the disabled, the overarching aim as I perceive it is to get disabled people into work wherever possible and constrain the growth in the welfare budget. Clearly there have been multiple cases of injustice eg people having benefits cut when they are terminally ill, but these to me seem like failures of the machine of government rather than design.
I will never agree that it’s ‘compassionate’ to ignore the cost of any kind of welfare. It’s that kind of attitude which led Brown to run a deficit in a boom, and can lead to the IMF deciding what we can spend money on. It would interesting to compare provision for the disabled in Greece (and bearing in mind your leader’s sympathies, Venezuela) with the U.K.
If you were tempted what would that break away party want to stand for (other than presumably remaining in the EU)? Are you aware of any kind of platform that might be circling?
A consensus does need to be built around Chequers, or both sides will be very angry for years and interested in nothing more than complete and utter defeat of the other, which will never happen.