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edited August 2018 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » A big August polling development has been the restoration of TMay’s double digit “best PM” lead

I love tables like the one from YouGov featured above showing the trend in responses to a political tracker question. This one is on who would make the best prime minister and what seems quite striking is that Theresa May has held up pretty well apart from July when her numbers slipped following the critical response to the checkers agreement.

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  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Good to see some evidence that anti semitism is damaging Corbyn.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,206
    edited August 2018
    The May rating has held stable, it is the move of Corbyn backers to Not Sure that it is key certainly
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,700
    So turns out Chequers doesn't mean Corbyn as PM?
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912
  • TrèsDifficileTrèsDifficile Posts: 1,729
    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    You trying to deprive Bob Monkhouse AJob?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    Back to June. Whoopiedoo.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    TrèsDifficile said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    You trying to deprive Bob Monkhouse AJob?
    Sorry, it was my way of pointing out Mike’s typo. Weirdly it’s spelled correctly on the main site but wrongly on the Vanilla forum.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    My gast wouldn’t be flabbered if it turned out an increased aid package to that region matched the value of our projected exports pretty closely.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,910
    IanB2 said:

    Back to June. Whoopiedoo.

    Indeed, there's been small movement of late but nothing too significant. May is still down on her ratings figures from earlier in the year while Corbyn oscillates around 22-26% levels.

    It demonstrates how little things are changing - Corbyn has polarised politics to such an extent. If you are with him, you are with him no matter what, if you are against him, you are against him, no matter what. The question is whether the May figure is made up of a component that support her because she isn't him as distinct from those of us backing Mr Not Sure who for me is far and away the best possible Prime Minister.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1034544637028048896
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034545254823878656
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034545935555153920
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,621
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Good to see some evidence that anti semitism is damaging Corbyn.

    Noise
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    edited August 2018
    stodge said:

    IanB2 said:

    Back to June. Whoopiedoo.

    Indeed, there's been small movement of late but nothing too significant. May is still down on her ratings figures from earlier in the year while Corbyn oscillates around 22-26% levels.

    It demonstrates how little things are changing - Corbyn has polarised politics to such an extent. If you are with him, you are with him no matter what, if you are against him, you are against him, no matter what. The question is whether the May figure is made up of a component that support her because she isn't him as distinct from those of us backing Mr Not Sure who for me is far and away the best possible Prime Minister.
    Not sure if that's not Mrs Not Sure?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,158
    Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Not exactly the quad.....
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    The significant movement is a decline in Jeremy Corbyn’s tally. That looks meaningful.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1034544637028048896

    Maj Gen Shaw will of course be dismissed as a europhilic crank by our friends here.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,159
    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Now then. Dont reveal the plot . Have recorded it to view later in month
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    AlastairMeeks said:

    The significant movement is a decline in Jeremy Corbyn’s tally. That looks meaningful.

    A movement towards "Not Sure" (like in the lead-up towards the last election), rather than the opponent....
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    :)

    Seriously though, I do wish we had a chancellor who was more prominent when talking about the economy....

    An economy that does well doesn’t necessarily speak for itself.

    I’m interested to see what silly idea will be floated in the press this time only to be shot down int he speech. Last time it was the silly notion of lowering the VAT registration threshold...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Now then. Dont reveal the plot . Have recorded it to view later in month
    No spoilers from me Big_G!

    Suffice to say Mrs P and I have found the first two episodes riveting (though Mrs P couldn't sleep after last night's episode).
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,159
    Benpointer said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Now then. Dont reveal the plot . Have recorded it to view later in month
    No spoilers from me Big_G!

    Suffice to say Mrs P and I have found the first two episodes riveting (though Mrs P couldn't sleep after last night's episode).
    Thanks Ben - the write ups have been very complimentary. Looking forward to watching it in due course
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Benpointer said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Now then. Dont reveal the plot . Have recorded it to view later in month
    No spoilers from me Big_G!

    Suffice to say Mrs P and I have found the first two episodes riveting (though Mrs P couldn't sleep after last night's episode).
    Thanks Ben - the write ups have been very complimentary. Looking forward to watching it in due course
    Recorded. No spoilers please!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Probably wants to get fired before the Brexit effect takes place. Let May and co be left carrying the baby
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,141
    A long listen, but I think a good one...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHQBfgvclnM
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,159
    Sky paper review not a good look for Corbyn
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,159
    Anyway another day, another load of controversy and no doubt so it will be tomorrow

    Time to leave the keyboard and wish everyone a pleasant nights rest.

    Good night folks
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,898
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So turns out Chequers doesn't mean Corbyn as PM?

    Chequers plays Plop!
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Mortimer said:


    I’m interested to see what silly idea will be floated in the press this time only to be shot down int he speech. Last time it was the silly notion of lowering the VAT registration threshold...

    "Making tax digital difficult" is on my to do list...

  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    Quite.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Population growth rate per year:

    China: 0.4%
    UK: 0.5%
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,752
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    But he’s doing such a good job taking the flak for all the things the PM doesn’t want to be personally associated with. Where else will she find someone willing to do that?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,537
    Benpointer said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Benpointer said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Looks like Philip Hammond has cut the RaSP budget to such an extent he is now having to act as his own Specialist Protection Officer. Hope he's been watching Bodyguard. :wink:
    Now then. Dont reveal the plot . Have recorded it to view later in month
    No spoilers from me Big_G!

    Suffice to say Mrs P and I have found the first two episodes riveting (though Mrs P couldn't sleep after last night's episode).
    Hear hear. Good stuff, genuinely unclear where it's going.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    Pulpstar said:

    Mortimer said:


    I’m interested to see what silly idea will be floated in the press this time only to be shot down int he speech. Last time it was the silly notion of lowering the VAT registration threshold...

    "Making tax digital difficult" is on my to do list...

    Delaying that would be most helpful.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    Are you serious? He's the only member of the government that has the slightest clue what he's doing.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,749
    edited August 2018
    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
    No panic, either the Chancellor is running an independent fiefdom and has every right to tell the PM to 'butt out' - in which case he ought to be backed up after the Budget as you gave him that right ...

    ... or the Chancellor is subject to Collective Responsibility and needs to agree a budget that satisfies the PM and will be backed up after the Budget as it was agreed already ...

    ... or you let the Chancellor do as he pleases, but then fail to back him up afterwards so what he says is largely irrelevant anyway and the whole business of government is simply incompetent and led by newspaper headlines.

    It's no coincidence the most stable and productive times of office have been when the PM and Chancellor been on the same page.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
    Hammond should have been hammering the Labour Manifesto 24/7 in the campaign in the last election. That he was able to be absent from the field of battle in a huff (albeit that Mrs May's clown troupe of advisors were happy to sideline him) probably cost a bunch of seats. Maybe even the majority.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
    Hammond should have been hammering the Labour Manifesto 24/7 in the campaign in the last election. That he was able to be absent from the field of battle in a huff (albeit that Mrs May's clown troupe of advisors were happy to sideline him) probably cost a bunch of seats. Maybe even the majority.
    Certainly! Brown didn't let himself get sidelined. Osborne was never sidelined. Hammond could have called daily press conferences and the media would have covered them. He was complicit and lily-livered in his own sidelining.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
    No panic, either the Chancellor is running an independent fiefdom and has every right to tell the PM to 'butt out' - in which case he ought to be backed up after the Budget as you gave him that right ...

    ... or the Chancellor is subject to Collective Responsibility and needs to agree a budget that satisfies the PM and will be backed up after the Budget as it was agreed already ...

    ... or you let the Chancellor do as he pleases, but then fail to back him up afterwards so what he says is largely irrelevant anyway and the whole business of government is simply incompetent and led by newspaper headlines.

    It's no coincidence the most stable and productive times of office have been when the PM and Chancellor been on the same page.
    ... or they are on the same page when it comes to the big issues in the day, running a good cop/bad cop routine on Brexit, and just for once Hammond is annoyed the Environment Secretary announced a tax measure?

    Hammond is May's chancellor, he won't stay when she goes
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,749
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    a bit too much of an Americanism to ring true.

  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rpjs said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    Are you serious?
    Yes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,898
    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,749
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    If it's about whether bags are 5p or 10p then the "row" is like a husband complaining his wife's got too many shoes. Not got going to end in divorce by itself...
    On the other hand that such a relatively trivial thing can be blown up in such a massive way is symptomatic of an already unhealthy relationship. May won't sack him as she's weak, incompetent and can't afford to alienate anyone. But she should. As should Blair have sacked Brown.

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.
    Do it next year then, no need to panic now
    No panic, either the Chancellor is running an independent fiefdom and has every right to tell the PM to 'butt out' - in which case he ought to be backed up after the Budget as you gave him that right ...

    ... or the Chancellor is subject to Collective Responsibility and needs to agree a budget that satisfies the PM and will be backed up after the Budget as it was agreed already ...

    ... or you let the Chancellor do as he pleases, but then fail to back him up afterwards so what he says is largely irrelevant anyway and the whole business of government is simply incompetent and led by newspaper headlines.

    It's no coincidence the most stable and productive times of office have been when the PM and Chancellor been on the same page.
    ... or they are on the same page when it comes to the big issues in the day, running a good cop/bad cop routine on Brexit, and just for once Hammond is annoyed the Environment Secretary announced a tax measure?

    Hammond is May's chancellor, he won't stay when she goes
    Chancellor tells Environment Secretary to butt out: not a headline. Not the headline.
    Chancellor tells PM to butt out: big story. This story.

    That's the difference between the so called "man bites dog" and "dog bites man" school of journalism.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    That's a Full House of puns surely?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,898
    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
  • archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612
    rpjs said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    Sack him.
    Are you serious? He's the only member of the government that has the slightest clue what he's doing.
    Yes, he does know what he is doing. He is knowingly being a traitor.
  • archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612
    Anazina said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    I'm afraid not. The EU has rejected May's customs partnership so the only way there will be a deal will be for May to sell out and agree to remain in the CU. So there would be no trade deals done by May.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,677
    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,752
    archer101au said:

    Anazina said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    I'm afraid not. The EU has rejected May's customs partnership so the only way there will be a deal will be for May to sell out and agree to remain in the CU. So there would be no trade deals done by May.
    It's interesting that Liam Fox's department is advertising a position where the job description gives a pretty strong indication we will be in the customs union for a long time to come.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,141
    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    I'm scrabbling for a response...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,141
    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    Indeed. One should be careful not to poke her.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,752
    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    I'm scrabbling for a response...
    Is there a prize if you can Connect Four puns?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,141
    Philip_Thompson said:

    The Treasury should not be an independent fiefdom telling the PM to butt out. That way leads to disasters after the Budget.

    Whilst I oddly agree with you. I have to point out that Chancellors vs PMs is hardly new: Wilson vs Jenkins, Callaghan vs Healey, Thatcher vs Lawson, Blair vs Brown. The sympatico years of Cameron and Osborne were not necessarily typical.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,898
    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    I'm scrabbling for a response...
    Yahtzee what I mean?!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,752
    Scallop wars.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106419/British-French-fishermen-clash-English-Channel-Scallop-Wars-battle.html

    British fishermen are calling for military help after their French rivals allegedly petrol-bombed a trawler in a battle over scallops.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    archer101au said:

    Anazina said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    I'm afraid not. The EU has rejected May's customs partnership so the only way there will be a deal will be for May to sell out and agree to remain in the CU. So there would be no trade deals done by May.
    I'm intrigued what deals you think would be available for a truly independent UK. Other than the US - which would require we made compromises that I think would be politically unacceptable - what's out there that the EU is not currently working on.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Whilst Hunt moved from Operation to Diplomacy, his predecessor was more of a Hungry Hippos expert.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,898
    Pulpstar said:

    Whilst Hunt moved from Operation to Diplomacy, his predecessor was more of a Hungry Hippos expert.

    I mentioned Operation upthread, sorry to Ker-Plunk you :)
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,842
    The scary thing is that I think he actually believes this nonsense.

    https://twitter.com/NudderingNudnik/status/1034497389338484737

    That level of delusion needs an intervention.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1034526524534341635
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    rcs1000 said:

    archer101au said:

    Anazina said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    I'm afraid not. The EU has rejected May's customs partnership so the only way there will be a deal will be for May to sell out and agree to remain in the CU. So there would be no trade deals done by May.
    I'm intrigued what deals you think would be available for a truly independent UK. Other than the US - which would require we made compromises that I think would be politically unacceptable - what's out there that the EU is not currently working on.
    China? India?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Can't see Boris tweeting this:

    https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1034500555538874368
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Corbyn’s crap. Who’d a thunk it? :p
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    TMay seems to have been pretty steady over the period ending with 36, 35, 36 and starting with 37, 36, 35.

    Corbyn less so starting with 31, 31, 31 and ending with 24, 22, 23.

    Although Corbyn's dip in the ratings seemed to start a while back scoring 26 (or one 25) from the start of April to the end which isn't far off where he is now. It seems unlikely that repeating the same smears will shift it much from there. It seems unlikely that anyone who hasn't bought into it already will now.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    williamglenn said:

    Scallop wars.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106419/British-French-fishermen-clash-English-Channel-Scallop-Wars-battle.html

    British fishermen are calling for military help after their French rivals allegedly petrol-bombed a trawler in a battle over scallops.

    The last time the RN got involved in these shenanigans HMS Blazer got boarded and taken by French fishermen who sailed their prize to Cherbourg and burned the White Ensign. Despite sounding like episode from the Napoleonic Wars this happened in 1993!
  • archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612
    rcs1000 said:

    archer101au said:

    Anazina said:

    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1034540240420134912

    Interesting that she’s just matched the EU deal. Presumably this will be standard practice now
    I'm afraid not. The EU has rejected May's customs partnership so the only way there will be a deal will be for May to sell out and agree to remain in the CU. So there would be no trade deals done by May.
    I'm intrigued what deals you think would be available for a truly independent UK. Other than the US - which would require we made compromises that I think would be politically unacceptable - what's out there that the EU is not currently working on.
    You are assuming that all trade deals are the same. They are not. The UK can be far more flexible than the EU and obtain better deals, including access to services markets in return for reducing tariffs on goods which is the strategic imperative for the UK.

    Just because the EU is 'working' on trade deals, does not mean that they will happen. The EU haven't even ratified CETA (and may not be able to do so). They have no trade deals with the US, India, China, Australia or NZ as far as I know. Or, in other words, the most important parts of the global economy.

    The US issues revolve around small agricultural regulations where the UK should absolutely concede and probably will - the EU has admitted that chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe. They will just agree to wash it with something else and a deal will get done. If it is safe, and people don't want to eat it, they just won't buy it. It is called the free market. It is not as if UK citizens suddenly become vegetarian when they go to the US on holidays....
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Elon Musk double's down:

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1034481160783585280
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1034546981769818112

    If that's true he should be fired.

    The PM has the right to do whatever she wants.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Aaron got the replies he deserved....

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1034465428754575361
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,631
    CarlottaVance said:

    Elon Musk double's down:

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1034481160783585280

    Someone needs to send him to a desert island and confiscate his phone for a few weeks. If the SEC don’t get to him first.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    CarlottaVance said:

    Aaron got the replies he deserved....

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1034465428754575361

    What an idiot.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,631
    RobD said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Aaron got the replies he deserved....

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1034465428754575361

    What an idiot.
    Yet totally unsurprising that they immediately look to shoot the messenger, rather than address the issue raised. Good to see Bastani monstered in the comments.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    CarlottaVance said:

    Can't see Boris tweeting this:

    https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1034500555538874368

    The "any Foreign sec" bit is a nice subtle but deniable dig at his predecessor.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    IanB2 said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Can't see Boris tweeting this:

    https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/1034500555538874368

    The "any Foreign sec" bit is a nice subtle but deniable dig at his predecessor.
    ‘‘Tis a thing of beauty - humble AND sticking the knife in.....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    williamglenn said:

    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    I'm scrabbling for a response...
    Is there a prize if you can Connect Four puns?
    Four is a misère-ly number, and nothing to brag about.
    @ydoethur can Mine A Million such puns, and even such novices as Nine Puns Morris can trump that.
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,728
    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited August 2018
    corbyn leaks pus = broken cuss play*

    * Not good, but it's early.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,631
    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    And given the majority expect “No Deal” - so the Chequers Fudge May yet come to be seen as a minor triumph - except among the irreconcilables - on both sides...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,814
    Good morning, everyone.

    May is assisted by her most media-prominent rival being wretched vainglorious and the Leader of the Opposition appearing to be as Jew-friendly as a bacon sarnie on the Sabbath.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Nigelb said:

    williamglenn said:

    viewcode said:

    Jonathan said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Foxy said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Anazina said:

    Is the Checkers Agreement for those who don’t grasp chess?

    Go.
    @ydoether has the Monopoly on puns. It isn't a Trivial Pursuit.
    Sunil suggests a different Operation. You don't seem to have a Cluedo!
    I would Backgammon to win on Brexit related puns.
    I see you took a Risk with that one!
    Get it wrong - and they go down like dominoes.
    Careful, she'll call another Snap general election.
    I'm scrabbling for a response...
    Is there a prize if you can Connect Four puns?
    Four is a misère-ly number, and nothing to brag about.
    @ydoethur can Mine A Million such puns, and even such novices as Nine Puns Morris can trump that.
    Somebody's going to Coppit for these terrible puns.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    Quite. And as posted yesterday things are rarely either as good or bad as anticipated.

    And Good Morning from me.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    CarlottaVance said:

    Aaron got the replies he deserved....

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1034465428754575361

    Well, be fair, he has a PhD in politics from RHUL. They only hand those out to people who are too thick to get them in real subjects like History, Chemistry, Law, Media Studies...
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,631
    AlastairMeeks said:

    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
    Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Sandpit said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
    Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
    Are you saying the deal is black and white?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
    Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
    Are you saying the deal is black and white?
    Aren’t you back at work next week? What’s the opposite of ‘demob happy’?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    OldKingCole said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    MJW said:

    As have said, the Tories' great friend is inertia. You have an opposition that's good at campaigning but very much gets high on their own supply of idiocy and nastiness - and an underlying issue, Brexit, where inertia is frankly a result. I haven't thought this for a while but purely by averting disaster and not being an utter disgrace like Corbyn, May could get a lot of credit.

    With expectations so low, any deal with the EU will be hailed as a triumph.
    One advantage of people describing Brexit as the Apocalypse is going to be expectations management. Some minor disruption could be seen by the public as a good outcome.
    I expect both of you will be yelling betrayal if any deal is actually struck.
    Not at all, I’m okay with Chequers.
    Are you saying the deal is black and white?
    Aren’t you back at work next week? What’s the opposite of ‘demob happy’?
    Gallows humour?
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